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2012-04-24 12:17:09 PM
4 votes:

xanadian: tl;dr.

Someone give me the 30-words-or-less version of that Tolstoy?


jealous stranger but father of two graduates from john hopkins, launches an internet crusade against rapper, based on disparaging statements from jealous cousin -- all because dude was a rebel in his youth but still managed to graduate from stanford with both bachelor and masters degree and became a hip hop star in Korea, whereas cousin who is a classical violin player ends up working in a patent office, and the stranger just upset his hardworking daughters don't have the same success this guy did who doesn't fit the korean mold.

somehow, they succeed in convincing people, end up breaking rapper mentally and became a hermit for several years -- people that arise to defend rapper are believed to be part of a conspiracy, even though the korean police and stanford university has provided proof that the rapper is who he is and what he is.

Reminds me a bit of the birther movement for some reason.

that's the best summation I could come up with -- it's just incredibly farked up, and the guys that ruined the rapper's life are completely unrepentant.
2012-04-24 01:39:52 PM
3 votes:
Sushi-K?
2012-04-24 03:53:04 PM
2 votes:

Dr.Zom: it seems odd that when I google Seungmin Cho, patent consultant, The phrase "Great people of east Asia don't need you. We will own this century, and the next, and the next, until all non-Asians are essentially pounded to submission" doesn't immediately accompany it. That seems odd to me. You would think when you google Seungmin Cho the phrase "Great people of east Asia don't need you. We will own this century, and the next, and the next, until all non-Asians are essentially pounded to submission" would be the first thing that popped up.

Try it yourself. Search Seungmin Cho, patent consultant, and see if the phrase "Great people of east Asia don't need you. We will own this century, and the next, and the next, until all non-Asians are essentially pounded to submission" pops up.


So you read on the internets that Seungmin Cho, patent consultant, said that and immediately began witch-hunt
2012-04-24 03:34:24 PM
2 votes:
So the repugnant little shiat that set his cousin's career death spiral into motion is a bitter patent worker that lives in NorCal.

Sounds about right.

I second Mangoose's motion to send repugnant little shiat's statements to all of his clients. With how easy it was for him to attempt to sell out his own cousin, his clients probably have a snowball's chance in hell.

/Hope he wins those defamation lawsuits.
2012-04-24 02:47:02 PM
2 votes:

Dinobot: jealous stranger but father of two graduates from john hopkins, launches an internet crusade against rapper, based on disparaging statements from jealous cousin -- all because dude was a rebel in his youth but still managed to graduate from stanford with both bachelor and masters degree and became a hip hop star in Korea, whereas cousin who is a classical violin player ends up working in a patent office, and the stranger just upset his hardworking daughters don't have the same success this guy did who doesn't fit the korean mold.


The cousin doesn't work in Korea, he works in California. And has this to say: " "Great people of east Asia don't need you. We will own this century, and the next, and the next, until all non-Asians are essentially pounded to submission ... Of course, it is the mission of thought leaders like myself who will propel what will be united Korea in the meantime."

Someone should send that little tirade to his clients.
2012-04-24 02:38:37 PM
2 votes:

Dinobot: Reminds me a bit of the birther movement for some reason.


Reminds? It is the birther movement man. Switch out a rapper with Obama and a diploma with a birth certificate and you have the precise same phenomenon. Hell, they're even analyzing punctuation and comma placement for farks sakes.

What a farked up, nasty, hateful species we are.
2012-04-24 02:38:27 PM
2 votes:
Just grab your brain by the nuts and read it, ya lightweights.
2012-04-24 02:32:47 PM
2 votes:
When Lee walked in, he looked crazed. He was no longer a cocky hip hop star. His hair was a bushy mess. Fidgeting with an unlit cigarette, his eyes darted nervously around the room. People in the lobby were looking at him. I asked how he was feeling.

"They're saying I'm not me, and I can't convince them I am," he mumbled. "It's like I'm living in a Kafka novel."


That statement is absolutely incredible.
2012-04-24 02:08:10 PM
2 votes:

you are a puppet: xanadian: tl;dr.

Someone give me the 30-words-or-less version of that Tolstoy?

Korean Tea Party


Tea Party? WTF? Was this a mistake, or are you retarded?

Korean Birther movement, yes.
2012-04-24 02:05:00 PM
2 votes:
". We will own this century, and the next, and the next, until all non-Asians are essentially pounded to submission "


Careful what you wish for buddy, you may end up playing the part of Poland between the two bigger powers.
2012-04-24 01:55:43 PM
2 votes:

Dinobot: that's the best summation I could come up with -- it's just incredibly farked up, and the guys that ruined the rapper's life are completely unrepentant.


Wow. It sounds like the Asian Dad meme come to life.
2012-04-24 01:20:48 PM
2 votes:
It just goes to show how incredibly stupid the pubic is in believing anything that is posted on the internet.

Amazing how a career can be taking down by a jealous family member and an idiot member of the community because your personal style/way of learning is different from the traditionally accepted cultural mold.
2012-04-24 11:10:22 AM
2 votes:
Wow, that was actually really interesting. I genuinely feel bad for the guy.
2012-04-24 11:11:30 PM
1 votes:

TheJoe03: if_i_really_have_to: Huh, so the state of American education has degraded past the point where the very common phrase 'nom de plume' and any variation thereof is one that only showboat pretentious elites use.

Funny that you think there was a point when the common man used Frenchie ass terms like that. It's always been pretentious, get over it.


Actually, nom de plume is of british origin using french words because they didn't understand the french nom de guerre.

Up to you if that means people were trying to be more pretentious or less.
2012-04-24 10:49:22 PM
1 votes:

GeneralJim: I can relate. I've got my own psychotic Fark stalker. Pretty much every time I post, the little asswipe will post anything I've ever posted on Fark with which he disagrees.

He also gets involved with vast conspiracy theories based, mostly, on the timing of my posts. If I go take a dump, there's a three-page conspiracy theory about it waiting when I get back - at least some days. He's quite ignorant, but copypastas information from the Web, trying to look like some sort of scientician. I've called him on it, repeatedly, which is probably the origin of the stalking. If he put as much effort into tracking ANYTHING scientifically as he does into tracking all my posts, he could be a published PhD. by now.

Fortunately for me, the creeper doesn't know where I live, other than the landmass, or my full name. I also don't have a rap career to ruin, so I've got that going for me. And, I have to admit, I sometimes post in such a way that I *KNOW* I'll set off his Asperger's Syndrome, or ass-burner's, or whatever it is that he has. It's simply fascinating to watch him wrap himself around his own axle. I know it's not nice to use the illness of another for amusement, but I've already got a window seat, and a Kosher meal (always a good idea, even for goyim like me) reserved, so it could be worse

And, I KNOW that if he's reading this thread, he simply will not be able to resist replying -- at least now without twitching uncontrollably for hours. I'll wait. *SNERK*


Oh, that's just because you're an ignorant asshole, not because he is a stalker.
2012-04-24 09:33:54 PM
1 votes:

Heron: bel4sucks: "Nom de rap"..... farkin white people

Well, pretentious people. "Stage name" would have served well enough but I guess the writer was feeling like a bit of a showboat.


Huh, so the state of American education has degraded past the point where the very common phrase 'nom de plume' and any variation thereof is one that only showboat pretentious elites use.

Good to know. Sad, but good to know.
2012-04-24 05:55:22 PM
1 votes:
Am I to presume that the monsters involved have lots of tentacles?

Wrong country. You may as well start referring to the Greeks as Turks. They will be equally as good natured about it.
2012-04-24 05:31:51 PM
1 votes:

Mytch: rwfan: (Pardon the misuse of the phrase but) this story really begs the question, was part of the hate towards this guy due to the fact that he gained fame as a rap artist? Perhaps that is a little too american, particularly african american, for the haters to stomach.

Not really. Stylistically rap in Korea refers strictly to the quick 'singing' style. It doesn't hold the negative, or self centered theme that american pop and rap holds.
Epik High is one of the less controversial groups in Korea. Topics are not sexual or violent. Often highlighting legitimate social issues that should be addresses like suicide (look for there song One), social abandonment of the disabled (Run), and monsters that eat your girlfriend (Wannabe).


You just described what hip hop is but apparently hip-hop isn't good enough for you Korean farks so you want to act like what they do is somehow more legitimate, it isn't.
2012-04-24 04:23:17 PM
1 votes:

Thunderboy: TheBlackrose: So the repugnant little shiat that set his cousin's career death spiral into motion is a bitter patent worker that lives in NorCal.

Sounds about right.

I second Mangoose's motion to send repugnant little shiat's statements to all of his clients. With how easy it was for him to attempt to sell out his own cousin, his clients probably have a snowball's chance in hell.

/Hope he wins those defamation lawsuits.

People keep condemning the cousin, who is by all means a detestable cockbag, but the real bad guy here is the 56-year-old tiger dad in Chicago. The cousin just hated him, while EUNGSUK KIM OF CHICAGO, IL is the mastermind behind TaJinYo (the forum that was created for the purpose of destroying this kid.)

It would sure be awful if a group of internetly-minded people were to take an interest in EUNGSUK KIM OF CHICAGO, IL.


Actually, I went searching for a bit of information on him. Apparently he went out in a manner akin to Orly Taitz. Cut ties to Korea and tried getting out of Chicago while selling off the forum.
2012-04-24 04:11:26 PM
1 votes:

TheBlackrose: So the repugnant little shiat that set his cousin's career death spiral into motion is a bitter patent worker that lives in NorCal.

Sounds about right.

I second Mangoose's motion to send repugnant little shiat's statements to all of his clients. With how easy it was for him to attempt to sell out his own cousin, his clients probably have a snowball's chance in hell.

/Hope he wins those defamation lawsuits.


People keep condemning the cousin, who is by all means a detestable cockbag, but the real bad guy here is the 56-year-old tiger dad in Chicago. The cousin just hated him, while EUNGSUK KIM OF CHICAGO, IL is the mastermind behind TaJinYo (the forum that was created for the purpose of destroying this kid.)

It would sure be awful if a group of internetly-minded people were to take an interest in EUNGSUK KIM OF CHICAGO, IL.
2012-04-24 03:59:55 PM
1 votes:
"Haha, garaaage! Garaaaaage! It's a CARHOLD!"

Wait wait wait, I thought it was "car hole".
2012-04-24 03:48:28 PM
1 votes:
Oh, wrong rapper...

http://www.myspace.com/mattyraps
2012-04-24 03:46:20 PM
1 votes:
it seems odd that when I google Seungmin Cho, patent consultant, The phrase "Great people of east Asia don't need you. We will own this century, and the next, and the next, until all non-Asians are essentially pounded to submission" doesn't immediately accompany it. That seems odd to me. You would think when you google Seungmin Cho the phrase "Great people of east Asia don't need you. We will own this century, and the next, and the next, until all non-Asians are essentially pounded to submission" would be the first thing that popped up.

Try it yourself. Search Seungmin Cho, patent consultant, and see if the phrase "Great people of east Asia don't need you. We will own this century, and the next, and the next, until all non-Asians are essentially pounded to submission" pops up.
2012-04-24 03:37:51 PM
1 votes:
I like the guy who took $10,000 to say he never saw this kid at Stanford. He didn't see a kid in a different graduating class, in a population of 15,000 students. He gave them a rational explanation and avenue to back out but then, rightly, he took the money. Because, hey, free money.

While we're cutting checks, I will stipulate that I've never seen Dan Lee in my entire life, /anywhere/. I'll even testify to it in a court of law. "Nope, I've never seen that guy before in my life".
2012-04-24 03:03:19 PM
1 votes:

Mangoose:
Someone should send that little tirade to his clients.


And hint that since he sympathizes with his fellow east asianers, perhaps he is secretly sending/selling their patentable ideas to China.
2012-04-24 03:02:19 PM
1 votes:
The craziest thing about that article is how unapologetic the trolls were. What a huge group of cockbags.
2012-04-24 02:47:08 PM
1 votes:
I think that I've seen this story before:

www.allposters.com
2012-04-24 02:25:07 PM
1 votes:
Most KPop is best watched with the sound off



mrkpop.files.wordpress.com
2012-04-24 02:24:16 PM
1 votes:
Wow. Good story, farking online haters.
2012-04-24 02:14:11 PM
1 votes:
Koreans sure do take their academic credentials seriously.
2012-04-24 02:12:53 PM
1 votes:

KatjaMouse: Dinobot: They did say he jus debuted his first solo album, and with rave reviews, but other articles say he now suffers of stage fright, because during the height of the controversy, he could not go out in public without being yelled at and getting threats and whatnot...

TFA says there's still a defamation suit pending and he has detectives on his side. I'm sure the media is going to make this very public and are going to be pretty keen on shaming those accused. This is culturally a big deal over there.


The same media that brushed aside his efforts to clear his name and instead would repeat everything that was posted in that blog?
2012-04-24 02:09:06 PM
1 votes:
It probably isn't over.

This is the Asian equivalent of the East/West feud in the 1990's.

Some crazy one will properly take him down.
2012-04-24 02:07:21 PM
1 votes:

Dinobot: They did say he jus debuted his first solo album, and with rave reviews, but other articles say he now suffers of stage fright, because during the height of the controversy, he could not go out in public without being yelled at and getting threats and whatnot...


TFA says there's still a defamation suit pending and he has detectives on his side. I'm sure the media is going to make this very public and are going to be pretty keen on shaming those accused. This is culturally a big deal over there.
2012-04-24 02:03:37 PM
1 votes:

StealthStalker: I actually stumbled upon a video of his thanks to Comcast's On-Demand K-Pop music video selection. I don't care much for hip-hop and I don't know Korean, but I enjoyed the tune.

Tablo - No Tomorrow

I think this was released more recently, so hopefully he's getting back on track.


They did say he jus debuted his first solo album, and with rave reviews, but other articles say he now suffers of stage fright, because during the height of the controversy, he could not go out in public without being yelled at and getting threats and whatnot...
2012-04-24 02:01:52 PM
1 votes:

rudemix: The real question I have to ask after reading this story is where do we go to ruin the hater cousin's life?


I guess the American equivalent (since he lives in California) would be that someone plants a bunch of child porn on him and make sure that an illegal, prone to breaking the law, alien use his name as an alias anytime he gets picked up by the cops.
2012-04-24 01:55:54 PM
1 votes:
The real question I have to ask after reading this story is where do we go to ruin the hater cousin's life?

It was an interesting story across a couple levels.

xanadian: tl;dr.

Someone give me the 30-words-or-less version of that Tolstoy?


Haters gonna hate and sometimes be really good at it.
2012-04-24 01:51:01 PM
1 votes:

Endive Wombat: It just goes to show how incredibly stupid the pubic is in believing anything that is posted on the internet.


It's not just the internet. People have been using newspapers, TV and radio to do this sort of thing for decades as well.

I think we all know at least one sick fark who delights in starting rumors and manipulating groups for their own pleasure. But they were always limited to the town or group of people they know. Now that we've got global communication, the only thing limiting the spread of their lies is the one in a million who questions what they hear, and they're often drowned out by the bleating of the herd.
2012-04-24 01:42:15 PM
1 votes:

xanadian: tl;dr.

Someone give me the 30-words-or-less version of that Tolstoy?


Korean Tea Party
 
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