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(Forbes)   Writer of "Star Trek: The Next Generation's" best episode talks about why he's releasing the sequel online. Pick up your space flute and play along   (forbes.com) divider line 241
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2012-04-24 02:04:07 AM
Huh?

I don't remember a flute in "Angel One".



/ducks
 
2012-04-24 02:15:15 AM

But Wait There's More: Huh?

I don't remember a flute in "Angel One".

/ducks


Betcha them dames played a mean skin flute, though.
 
2012-04-24 02:18:53 AM
I like that episode but it wasn't the best. I'd have to rewatch them all (and I need to) to say what I think was best, but that isn't it. And that tune got annoying.
 
2012-04-24 02:52:02 AM
Funny, link says "best episode", but inside I can't find anything about "Yesterday's Enterprise".
 
2012-04-24 03:17:16 AM
I liked that one episode where the ship flew to some planet and they beamed down and got into a jam and then got away at the last minute.

That one was great!
 
2012-04-24 03:22:47 AM
I liked the TNG episode "These are the voyages".
 
2012-04-24 03:22:57 AM
Man, I can't wait to see a sequel to Code of Honor.

I hope they find a planet of angrier, blacker men!
 
2012-04-24 06:30:34 AM

FlyingLizardOfDoom: I liked the TNG episode "These are the voyages".


i575.photobucket.com

Also, what a Picard webcomic should actually be about:

i575.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-24 07:48:33 AM
"What is 'Because no one will actually pay me for it or air it even on the dreariest of cable channels?'"

What about a sequel to the episode(s) where it was clear that Worf and Wesley were slamming ham?

"The boy, Captain. He needs more...discipline."
 
2012-04-24 07:49:09 AM
How can that possibly be the best episode? Wesley wasn't even in it.
 
2012-04-24 09:35:19 AM

big_pth: Funny, link says "best episode", but inside I can't find anything about "Yesterday's Enterprise".


My favorite as well.
 
2012-04-24 09:58:12 AM

SilentStrider: big_pth: Funny, link says "best episode", but inside I can't find anything about "Yesterday's Enterprise".

My favorite as well.


Chain of Command is probably mine, but it's really a massive tie between Yesterday's Enterprise, Best of Both Worlds, Chain of Command, Inner Light and All Good Things...

Chain of Command is just a little bit better.
 
2012-04-24 11:45:20 AM
That was such a drawback to TNG's storytelling. Picard lives an entire alternate life and everyone forgets about it for next week's episode and forever again.

You couldn't write TV like that today without nerds burning down your studio. There were dune buggies later though.
 
2012-04-24 11:47:06 AM

Confabulat: That was such a drawback to TNG's storytelling. Picard lives an entire alternate life and everyone forgets about it for next week's episode and forever again.

You couldn't write TV like that today without nerds burning down your studio. There were dune buggies later though.


Yeah, but someone could also take the idea too far and drag out The Inner Light into three episodes.

But yeah, I like continuity.
 
2012-04-24 12:09:23 PM

Confabulat: That was such a drawback to TNG's storytelling. Picard lives an entire alternate life and everyone forgets about it for next week's episode and forever again.


Almost nothing had lasting consequences. Picard's assimilation, Yar dying, Q's episodes somewhat tied together but for the most part they hit the reset button every episode. Another way DS9 was better.
 
2012-04-24 12:11:45 PM

FlyingLizardOfDoom: I liked the TNG episode "These are the voyages".


Ok that was funny.
 
2012-04-24 12:32:32 PM

Confabulat: That was such a drawback to TNG's storytelling. Picard lives an entire alternate life and everyone forgets about it for next week's episode and forever again.


Status Quo is God

The lack of a long-term story arc can be a negative in regard to in-depth storytelling, but the lack of arc also makes the show more accessible. You can take Joe Schmoe off the street who has never seen an episode, show him "The Inner Light," and he won't feel like he doesn't understand what's going on because he doesn't understand the back-stories of all the characters involved.

Now show him the most recent episode of "Mad Men." He'll be lost. The show is exceptionally well-written and compelling, but anybody who wants to watch new episodes has to be brought up to speed. That makes the show difficult to expand beyond an already-hooked audience.

tl;dr -- Long story arcs are good for storytelling, bad for syndication.
 
2012-04-24 12:40:43 PM
And just for fun, here are my top 20 episodes of Star Trek (not including TOS). I wanted to do a list of 10, but couldn't whittle it down.

20) Cogenitor (ENT)
19) Unification (Parts 1 and 2) (DS9)
18) Hard Times (DS9)
17) Brothers (TNG)
16) Lower Decks (TNG)
15) The Way of the Warrior (DS9)
14) Trial and Tribble-ations (DS9)
13) Darmok (TNG)
12) Sarek (TNG)
11) Cause and Effect (TNG)
10) The Drumhead (TNG)
9) Tapestry (TNG)
8) Improbable Cause/The Die is Cast (DS9)
7) Yesterday's Enterprise (TNG)
6) All Good Things... (TNG)
5) Rocks and Shoals (DS9)
4) In the Pale Moonlight (DS9)
3) The Defector (TNG)
2) Duet (DS9)
1) The Inner Light (TNG)

20 should probably be The Face of the Enemy or Tacking into the Wind, but I thought there should be one non-TNG/DS9 episode on the list.
 
2012-04-24 12:48:04 PM

DamnYankees: 14) Trial and Tribble-ations (DS9)


Probably the most fun episode of any Star Trek.

Also, seriously, no Chain of Command?
 
2012-04-24 12:49:32 PM

GAT_00: DamnYankees: 14) Trial and Tribble-ations (DS9)

Probably the most fun episode of any Star Trek.

Also, seriously, no Chain of Command?


That probably would have made the top 25. The problem is part 1 is pretty blah.
 
2012-04-24 12:53:51 PM

DamnYankees: And just for fun, here are my top 20 episodes of Star Trek (not including TOS). I wanted to do a list of 10, but couldn't whittle it down.


Rehashing an old post:

My Top 5 favorite Star Trek episodes, by series:

TOS

5. The Cage
4. Trouble With Tribbles
3. City on the Edge of Forever
2. Balance of Terror
1. Mirror, Mirror

TNG

5. Cause and Effect Yesterday's Enterprise
4. Face of the Enemy
3. Darmok
2. Best of Both Worlds
1. The Inner Light

DS9

5. Emmissary
4. You are Cordially Invited The Way of the Warrior
3. The Sound of Her Voice
2. The Reckoning
1. In the Pale Moonlight

VOY

5. Scorpion
4. Equinox
3. Pathfinder
2. The Omega Directive
1. Year of Hell

ENG

5. Regeneration
4. E2
3. Through a Mirror, Darkly
2. Carbon Creek
1. Broken Bow

Movies

5. Insurrection
4. The Undiscovered Country
3. Star Trek (Reboot) {Unfortunately, this has to stay on the list for lack of better options}
2. First Contact
1. Wrath of Kahn

Books

5. Homecoming
4. Unification
3. Invasion
2. I, Q.
1.5 The Lives of Dax
1. Imzadi
 
2012-04-24 12:55:09 PM

FlyingLizardOfDoom: The Sound of Her Voice


Totally forgot about that one. Good episode.
 
2012-04-24 01:18:25 PM

FlyingLizardOfDoom: 5. The Cage
4. Trouble With Tribbles
3. City on the Edge of Forever
2. Balance of Terror
1. Mirror, Mirror


It's kind of impossible to make a different list than that since those were the only good episodes of TOS. All you can change is the order.

TNG:
1. Chain of Command
2. The Inner Light
3. Yesterday's Enterprise
4. All Good Things...
5. Best of Both Worlds

VOY:
1. Living Witness
2. Equinox
3. Blink of an Eye
4. Scorpion
5. Year of Hell

DS9:
1. In the Pale Moonlight
2. Far Beyond the Stars
3. Trials and Tribble-ations
4. Improbable Cause/The Die Is Cast
5. Crossover
 
2012-04-24 01:27:06 PM
I want to see someone re-do the fight scenes in Yesterday's Enterprise with some real good CGI effects.
 
2012-04-24 01:32:05 PM

wippit: I want to see someone re-do the fight scenes in Yesterday's Enterprise with some real good CGI effects.


wonder if the blu-ray editions will clean that up.
 
2012-04-24 01:37:29 PM

Mugato: Confabulat: That was such a drawback to TNG's storytelling. Picard lives an entire alternate life and everyone forgets about it for next week's episode and forever again.

Almost nothing had lasting consequences. Picard's assimilation, Yar dying, Q's episodes somewhat tied together but for the most part they hit the reset button every episode. Another way DS9 was better.


That's okay, DS9 had their own version.
 
2012-04-24 01:43:18 PM
1. Threshold
2. Threshold
3. Threshold
 
2012-04-24 01:45:18 PM

FlyingLizardOfDoom: TOS

5. The Cage
4. Trouble With Tribbles
3. City on the Edge of Forever
2. Balance of Terror
1. Mirror, Mirror



I can't believe A Piece of the Action doesn't get more love.
 
2012-04-24 01:48:57 PM

JohnBigBootay: FlyingLizardOfDoom: TOS

5. The Cage
4. Trouble With Tribbles
3. City on the Edge of Forever
2. Balance of Terror
1. Mirror, Mirror


I can't believe A Piece of the Action doesn't get more love.


That would likely be #6.
 
2012-04-24 01:57:45 PM

But Wait There's More: Huh?

I don't remember a flute in "Angel One".



/ducks


I have to admit that while the plot stinks, the chicks in skimpy outfits are very, very, very nice, which ups the viewability quite a bit.
 
2012-04-24 01:57:53 PM
The Best? There are so many good ones, but for my money...

1. Darmok
2. The Offspring
3. The Drumhead
4. The Best of Both Worlds I & II and Family.
5. Inner Light

Personal Favorites:

6. Nth Degree (just to watch Dwigh Schultz blow everyone off the screen as Cyrnao)
7. Reunion (Even though I hold everlasting rage at them for killing off K'Ehleyr.)
8. Disaster
9. Rascals
10. Half a Life

And I thought All Good Things was a very nice note to end it on, and a satisfying twist in Q's character.
 
2012-04-24 02:07:04 PM

FlyingLizardOfDoom: That would likely be #6.


Cool. I doubt I could put together a list even. I shamelessly love them all in some way. I may go home and watch Spock's Brain, just for the lulz.
 
2012-04-24 02:10:01 PM
Darmok farking sucks and is stupid and the premise is stupid and is stupid.
 
2012-04-24 02:13:36 PM
What do you think Picard is going to say to that woman he was married to all that time? "I've seen it. I've seen it all."
 
2012-04-24 02:19:01 PM

unyon: But Wait There's More: Huh?

I don't remember a flute in "Angel One".

/ducks

Betcha them dames played a mean skin flute, though.


Wesley was whisked away to safety before he could join their band camp that summer...

www.darkhorizons.com
 
2012-04-24 02:20:24 PM

KiplingKat872: The Best? There are so many good ones, but for my money...

1. Darmok
2. The Offspring
3. The Drumhead
4. The Best of Both Worlds I & II and Family.
5. Inner Light

Personal Favorites:

6. Nth Degree (just to watch Dwigh Schultz blow everyone off the screen as Cyrnao)
7. Reunion (Even though I hold everlasting rage at them for killing off K'Ehleyr.)
8. Disaster
9. Rascals
10. Half a Life

And I thought All Good Things was a very nice note to end it on, and a satisfying twist in Q's character.


Nice list, though I would have included The Perfect Mate and Yesterday's Enterprise.
 
2012-04-24 02:21:06 PM

Madbassist1: Darmok farking sucks and is stupid and the premise is stupid and is stupid.


"Madbassist1, with sweat and dead man's balls..."
 
2012-04-24 02:30:12 PM

GAT_00: DamnYankees: 14) Trial and Tribble-ations (DS9)

Probably the most fun episode of any Star Trek.


And Dax in that uniform... damn near ripped my dick off.
 
2012-04-24 02:32:17 PM
So long as everyone here agrees the best episode was NOT the one where the creepy parasites crawled down everyone's throats.
 
2012-04-24 02:47:44 PM
Right now we're planning on 11 or 12 episodes, being released about every two weeks.

www.thepensivecitadel.com

They are 12 Outer Lights
 
2012-04-24 02:48:45 PM

Madbassist1: Darmok farking sucks and is stupid and the premise is stupid and is stupid.


What he said. I'm glad someone else thinks so.
 
2012-04-24 02:51:51 PM

Counter_Intelligent: So long as everyone here agrees the best episode was NOT the one where the creepy parasites crawled down everyone's throats.


Well the FX were atrocious even for 1987 TV but it was the precursor to the Borg. They couldn't afford to bring back the creatures so they changed them to Borg.
 
2012-04-24 02:53:04 PM
"Frame of Mind." That is all.
 
2012-04-24 02:55:38 PM
"The Inner Light" was a really good one. Unfortunately, I was really disappointed by the way it was handled subsequently.

Which is to say, it wasn't.

Glad the writer had the same problem.

When you think about it, Picard is like a Holocaust survivor in the sense that he lived in entire lifetime and everyone he loved in it was killed. But in the show, in the next episode, it was like nothing had happened.

If Picard's 50 (I know, someone probably knows his exact age and birthday. I don't.) and he lived out another 50 years on the planet, he's now a 100-year-old man in a 50-year-old's body. His career in Starfleet, which he relegated to a dream years ago, is a distant memory. He hasn't seen his friends in half a century. He's already gone through an acceptance process that his life was a lie, and now he's forced to do it again. And basically he just snaps out of it.

The 24th century must have amazing shrinks.
 
2012-04-24 02:56:10 PM

MonkeyAngst: "The Inner Light" was a really good one. Unfortunately, I was really disappointed by the way it was handled subsequently.

Which is to say, it wasn't.


It does come up in a future episode. Just not the very next one.
 
2012-04-24 02:57:31 PM
i.imgur.com

I think we better alert Dr. Crusher that Q replaced your head with a farkING POTATO.
 
2012-04-24 02:57:40 PM

BKITU: Now show him the most recent episode of "Mad Men." He'll be lost. The show is exceptionally well-written and compelling, but anybody who wants to watch new episodes has to be brought up to speed. That makes the show difficult to expand beyond an already-hooked audience.


It's always a bit odd when Mad Men occasionaly throws in those one-episode B-story arcs. The past couple seasons, they almost always involve Pryce. It's probably due to his being a supporting character in what could be a main character role, but he always gets handed off these single episode problems that are never referenced again. His black girlfriend, daddy issues, financial problems, being weird about finding a wallet, etc. are all done with in one episode.
 
2012-04-24 02:59:17 PM

MonkeyAngst: "The Inner Light" was a really good one. Unfortunately, I was really disappointed by the way it was handled subsequently.

Which is to say, it wasn't.

Glad the writer had the same problem.

When you think about it, Picard is like a Holocaust survivor in the sense that he lived in entire lifetime and everyone he loved in it was killed. But in the show, in the next episode, it was like nothing had happened.

If Picard's 50 (I know, someone probably knows his exact age and birthday. I don't.) and he lived out another 50 years on the planet, he's now a 100-year-old man in a 50-year-old's body. His career in Starfleet, which he relegated to a dream years ago, is a distant memory. He hasn't seen his friends in half a century. He's already gone through an acceptance process that his life was a lie, and now he's forced to do it again. And basically he just snaps out of it.

The 24th century must have amazing shrinks.


nah. he is just strong willed.
 
2012-04-24 02:59:36 PM

PsyLord: Wesley was whisked away to safety before he could join their band camp that summer...


Now she's actually married to another Wesley.
 
2012-04-24 03:01:46 PM

dennysgod: Right now we're planning on 11 or 12 episodes, being released about every two weeks.

[www.thepensivecitadel.com image 300x229]

They are 12 Outer Lights


All jokes aside, that was another great episode.
 
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