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(LA Times)   Report shows that effect of antidepressants on autism has been overstated by 39.4823474572 percent   (latimes.com) divider line 11
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2012-04-24 09:41:03 AM  
I am shocked, SHOCKED by this news. K-mart sucks.
 
2012-04-24 11:02:15 AM  
I didn't know they were said to affect autistic behaviors. I've never noticed mine affecting anything but depression and fatigue. Still get stressed out by basic social interactions.
 
2012-04-24 11:55:01 AM  
I took antidepressants to keep from killing myself. I still hated the human race.

However, if you're into such esoteric discussions, there is a book about whether or not anti-depressants can actually change our personalities, by a shrink who says that they can, and for the better.

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It's kind of a golden oldie now, but I found it pretty interesting. This guy thought that anti-depressants could help people change lifelong maladaptive behaviors. Which leads us to "so what do you define as a maladaptive behavior--are introversion and low social skills maladaptive behaviors?" And he talks about that sort of thing too.
 
2012-04-24 12:23:41 PM  

cryinoutloud: I took antidepressants to keep from killing myself. I still hated the human race.

However, if you're into such esoteric discussions, there is a book about whether or not anti-depressants can actually change our personalities, by a shrink who says that they can, and for the better.

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It's kind of a golden oldie now, but I found it pretty interesting. This guy thought that anti-depressants could help people change lifelong maladaptive behaviors. Which leads us to "so what do you define as a maladaptive behavior--are introversion and low social skills maladaptive behaviors?" And he talks about that sort of thing too.


I remember when this book came out in the mid 90's, right around the time that the "ZOMG!!! prozac is making people kill themselves" media train was getting started. I never read it but I'd be curious to know if the personality changes that are claimed are permanent, and if this effect is only from prozac, or if the other dozens of SSRI's since can do the same thing? Also, where do SNRI's fit in and what are their effects on personality?
 
2012-04-24 12:44:03 PM  

darwinsmonkey: I never read it but I'd be curious to know if the personality changes that are claimed are permanent, and if this effect is only from prozac, or if the other dozens of SSRI's since can do the same thing? Also, where do SNRI's fit in and what are their effects on personality?


This doctor was saying that they were permanent personality changes. It's been a while since I've read it, but he cited anecdotes where people who totally lacked self-confidence took Prozac, learned how to interact with others better and take more control of situations, then when they stopped taking the drug, they still had those skills. It opened up their options, made them think of better ways of dealing with life. Not to mention that if you're clinically depressed, you're pretty bad at thinking of ways out of whatever hole you're in.

It may have had the same effect on me, but OTOH, leaving that piece of shiat I used to be married to probably had a lot to do with it too. He really opened my eyes.

And I think this book was mostly dealing with Prozac, as it came out before most of the newer SSRI's. I never took anything but Prozac, it worked fine, and just by some of the stories I hear on Fark, I'd be reluctant to touch some of the newer ones. I never had side effect one from taking Prozac, even if I stopped taking it cold turkey. Or else everyone is being overdosed nowadays--I think even some doctors go with "if 20 mg works, then 80 mg will work better!"
 
2012-04-24 12:46:52 PM  
FTA "Publication bias: It has long been a problem in medical research. Studies that show a drug or treatment is effective are more likely to be published than studies with negative findings."

So research that supports a desired outcome is more likely to be published? Colour me shocked...
 
2012-04-24 12:57:49 PM  

cryinoutloud:
It may have had the same effect on me, but OTOH, leaving that piece of shiat I used to be married to probably had a lot to do with it too. He really opened my eyes.


Modern psychology is based on an integrative approach, with both biological and psycho-social influences being recognized as causative factors in psychological dysfunction. It is likely that both removing the stress from your life and the drug treatment were both influential in your recovery.

/ Taking an abnormal psych class right now, so I get to practice sounding like I know something....
 
2012-04-24 01:07:01 PM  
I think we should try mild hallucinogenic drugs in the treatment of autism. Not much else seems to work, so why not?
 
2012-04-24 01:23:58 PM  

Rent Party: Modern psychology is based on an integrative approach, with both biological and psycho-social influences being recognized as causative factors in psychological dysfunction. It is likely that both removing the stress from your life and the drug treatment were both influential in your recovery.
/ Taking an abnormal psych class right now, so I get to practice sounding like I know something....


It is a fact that if I hadn't been on anti-depressants, I wouldn't have been able to work up the will to leave him, at least not when I did. And I stayed far too long anyway. The longer you stay, the more brainwashed you become, the more depressed, the less able to see a way out....and he knew this. Always sneered at people who had to take drugs to live their lives, told me I was weak, blah blah. When our son was diagnosed with major depression at 15 (what a shock, since he lived with Dad), Dad tried to keep him from getting on anti-depressants and wouldn't take him to counseling, even though it was court-ordered. I got him the pills. At 16 he was living with me. And now, two years later, he's fine. But it took a while, just like it did for me.

I know all kinds of abnormal psychology. Been surrounded by examples of it my whole life. To say nothing of the years of therapy and half a masters' degree. My opinion of shrinks is pretty much the same opinion I have of everyone--some of them are great, some suck. And some of them are nuts, sorry to say, since they have so much influence over peoples' lives.
 
2012-04-24 03:25:24 PM  
Depressed because I'm autistic.

The pills may make me happy, but I'm still autistic and that still makes me depressed.

/Might as well just spend my life in a pill induced haze.
//not like we allow or understand the need for suicide in this country.
 
2012-04-25 08:02:19 AM  
Welbutrin has made my life a lot better. Depression made it a lot worse. It was already better than yours, though.
 
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