Just looking at recent photos of Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher and I have to say the author has a point.

Confabulat: I never thought of that rat burrowing thing. I don't think it's in the books either. Patrick Bateman would have been proud of that one.

go back and reread the books then

so far this series has been insanely accurate

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I know tyrion isnt ugly enough
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I know that they changed some of the names to make things clearer for people who havent read the books.
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I know that some scenes are not in exactly the same order that they were in the book. thank god.

but things like the rats and buckets? pretty damn certain that they were right out of the book.
I dont remember gendry getting saved by the bell, but it is possible ...


unlikely: The problem isn't the actors aging. The characters age in the books.

The actual problem is they started with actors that were already too old. And they had to - you can't have your 13-year-old actresses banging horse lords on screen.

this whole article is such a non-problem. the goal was to adapt the book to the screen. there is no way to be 100% accurate nor any way to get around the fact that people get older and die in real life.

Rowling actually did a perfect job by having the children age 1 year per book. Worked perfectly for publishing one book a year. Kids reading the books would age one year for each book as they came out. perfect progression. same for the movies.

Good thing that the series didnt start until around the time book 5 came out or all the actors would have been dead before the series is finished.

/I love GRRM, but that farker has already said that he doesnt want the series finished if he dies. fark HIM.
/on the other hand, does GRRM even have a CLUE where the story is going??? :D

Subdue their bellies: The burrowing rat interrogation was nicked from one of the Sword of Truth books. No idea where Goodkind nicked it from.

FRAK
I knew that I had read it recently. dammit.
Now it has me wondering what was actually in the books.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
or was that bit just left out of the book?
People in the cells heard screaming. Didnt see what was causing the screaming. Screaming people died and didnt share WHAT was causing them to scream. Anything could have happened. Fair enough.

Detinwolf: Cythraul: I don't want to punch Joffery.

I want to slowly boil him alive in a vat of oil starting at his toes and eventually reaching his eyeballs. But before that, I want to place him in a giant fire ant mound for a few hours after starving him close to death for weeks. And before that, I'd like to use 'the pear' on him repeatedly until his anus resembled ground beef.

Yeah, I don't like him very much.

Fictional character dude. Please seek a psychiatrist.

Let me repeat that in big letters: JOFFERY

Do you get it, yet? Understand? Ya with me?

palelizard:

Who?

There is the nice thing about GRR Martin killing everyone. By the last book, people who deserve it from a moral perspective are the ones dying, since they're the only ones left.

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I really thought that the way Joffrey finally getting his due was unsatisfying. Choking on baked goods was too good of a death for him IMHO. Oh well, since it goes in with the theme of Martin saying he was trying to break fantasies cliches, I'll get over it. One of the reasons I like it so much is cause it is unpredictable.

knightofargh: ha-ha-guy: What's killing me is all the Starks I liked are dead (aside from Jon Snow). Anything involving the North now is just "urgh" as I read it. With his next book I just want the ability to buy a copy that has the Tyrion and Jon Snow chapters in it (I know about the ending to the last one, but remember Fire Priestess) and forget the rest. Maybe Daenyrs as well.

I'm ignoring the series after wading through Feast and realizing I didn't give a fark about any of the characters in it save Arya and possibly Jaime. I might pick it back up after A) GRRM finishes the series or B) GRRM pulls a Jordan and the series is ghostwritten to completion.

After a six year wait, the shiat sandwich that was Feast wasn't worth it. I'm fairly sure that the Social Security trust will run dry before the next book is published.

You know, I keep hearing people complain about the same thing. Do you know that you can SKIP pages? That you can skim uninteresting chapters? (yes, a better editor would have helped some) If you find that you have missed things, that you can, SHOCKING, turn the pages in the other direction and reread a chapter that you have skipped???

copy that has the Tyrion and Jon Snow chapters
While I love the books, and I love BOOKS, this series would be PERFECT for electronic format and being able to resort the chapters.
When I reread the books before reading the latest book, I find it trivial to just skip the stuff which was YAWNNNNNNNNNNNN the last time I read it.

and yes, it was unfortunate that book 4 and 5 were split by characters and not by time. Would be nice if the chapters were reorder in a future addition, say once the series is complete. Or in the giant single volume electronic version .....

I do find it amusing when people biatch about a book that they dont like as if they had no choice but were required to read it.
I get it, you are sharing your view about what you liked and didnt like.
SHOCKING that you didnt like everything in a book. Everyone is required to like everything the same way as everyone else.

/insert list of book which are stupid and I will never read or finish reading
/dont get me started on confederacy of dunces. FFS, why did I listen to my friend and even start reading that book?? thank god I just quit in the middle.

Carth: I'm glad they aged up Arya and Dany. I never bought the 14-15 year old super assassin/warlord and think it works better if they look older.

this!
plus we get better acting
and boobies

The Thoroughbred of Sin: Since this is a thread about the SHOW and not the books, anyone posting about events past Episode 4 of the second season is seriously out of bounds. Have some respect for others who are either enjoying the show or perhaps a book or two behind you. Seriously

Good luck with that. These idiots post everything about the books and then complain that it's your fault you haven't spent the last 15 years reading 5000 pages.

They'll get their burrowing rats in the end, farkers. Do you really feel cool because you posted stuff that's not on the show yet? Does it make you feel smart? Does it make your penis feel bigger than its usual 4 inches?

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Seems like it really shouldn't be an issue except in the case of the actor who plays Bran. Who knows what puberty will do to him, but the two Stark girls are portrayed by a 15 and 16 year old and Joffrey by a 19 year old. Are the three of them really going to change that dramatically?

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the good part about bran, is that he is currently crippled.
plus GRRM can include changes in the next book describing earlier growth spurts which were ignored or not noticed because bran wasnt walking about ...
assuming bran does or isnt already dead

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Oh, that one. Actually, I thought it was pretty good. He's panicking, clawing at his own throat, while people watch, unable to do anything. And when you realize whodunnit, even nicer.

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Responding to spoilers...


It probably would have been more satisfying to see him suffer more pain and longer, but I thought the way Martin wrote the death was pretty fulfilling. Joffrey clawing away the flesh at his throat, knowing he was dying. And all with the court and Cersei watching.

Fair enough. Never really thought of it like that. It's just by the time you reach that part of the book, you REALLY want something bad to happen to him and it just seemed underwhelming. Martin really wrote that character well considering the emotional response he causes people, myself included. And the fact that HBO is really cranking up the loathing (the prostitution scene from Sunday), I just think that a lot of people will be disappointed he doesn't get raped by an Other or something.

mongbiohazard: I haven't read the books, and the only thing I've been wanting to see in the series is more supernatural stuff. So far we've gotten tiny, baby dragons for a few moments that are too small to really do anything and some things with eyes that glow that you only see for a moment or two once or twice. Oh and a very short little scene with a single zombie. In a sword and sorcery setting I was hoping for a little more sorcery...






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Just ribbing ya. The best parts of ACOK are now about to happen so the rest of the season will be epic. Personally, season 3 and 4 is going to be must see T.V. I really can't think of any part of reading ASOS where I was bored. It was kind of obvious in Sunday's episode that they have to pinch pennies when Robb charges into battle and it fades to black and then goes to the aftermath, At least they are doing The Battle of the Blackwater.

PenguinCam: Cythraul: Detinwolf: Cythraul: I don't want to punch Joffery.

I want to slowly boil him alive in a vat of oil starting at his toes and eventually reaching his eyeballs. But before that, I want to place him in a giant fire ant mound for a few hours after starving him close to death for weeks. And before that, I'd like to use 'the pear' on him repeatedly until his anus resembled ground beef.

Yeah, I don't like him very much.

Fictional character dude. Please seek a psychiatrist.

Let me repeat that in big letters: JOFFERY

Do you get it, yet? Understand? Ya with me?

I normally enjoy your posts very much, but I have to say that the initial comment (please get past the filter) didn't do much for me and the subsequent explanation went wooosh !

Please explain?

I'm really tired right now, so I'll try. But it'll be in a bunch of short / fragmented sentences.

I hate the character Joffery with a passion. I'd like to see vile things happen to him (in the series). I posted my sentiments here. Some people have been posting how some fans have been threatening in real life, the actor who plays Joffery. Someone responded to me saying I should seek mental health. Hating the 'bad guys' in a fictional piece is simply a sign of being passionate about the work at hand. Better compliment to the author to want to see Joffery die in the series then not care at all, no? I tried to respond to the guy explaining that. Guess I didn't do a good job. End of explanation. My head hurts.