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(CNN)   Two Congress-critters think if the Secret Service hired more women, they could hire less hookers. Perhaps that should be rephrased   (politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 114
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2012-04-23 07:20:31 PM
It does need to be rephrased. If they hired more women they could hire fewer hookers.
 
2012-04-23 08:11:38 PM

feckingmorons: It does need to be rephrased. If they hired more women they could hire fewer hookers.


but more gigolos.
 
2012-04-23 08:25:51 PM
i2.cdn.turner.com

it's true. i mean, prostitution just plummeted in DC once we elected women like this to congress thanks to all of their heroic inter-office sucking and f*cking.
 
2012-04-23 08:45:24 PM
Always happens when you outsource.

/when will they learn
 
2012-04-23 09:25:12 PM
This is completely Obama's fault.
The Holocaust also never happened.
 
2012-04-23 09:31:57 PM
This is kinda like saying that the Secret Service needs babysitters to keep them out of trouble.

But I've seen a lot of vids on the interweb where the babysitter gets a spanking and then some.
 
2012-04-23 09:35:33 PM

feckingmorons: It does need to be rephrased. If they hired more women they could hire fewer hookers.


Came here to say this, or more English majors.
 
2012-04-23 09:39:00 PM

johnnieconnie: feckingmorons: It does need to be rephrased. If they hired more women they could hire fewer hookers.

Came here to say this, or more English majors.


Well hooking is all an English major qualifies you for.
 
2012-04-23 09:39:53 PM
I want her to explain how having women on that detail would have stopped a bunch horny men from getting some strange in a foreign country.
 
2012-04-23 09:41:18 PM
For subby's future reference, if you can count them, you use "fewer." If you can't count it, it's "less." Less butter, fewer eggs.

less sex, fewer hookers
 
2012-04-23 09:41:31 PM
So what you're saying is you want to bring back camp followers.
 
2012-04-23 09:43:03 PM
This is stupid. People should be doing their job regardless of their gender.


I'd hire a hot male prostitue.

I wouldn't dicker about the prices if I were a secrete service agent.
 
2012-04-23 09:43:49 PM
Women don't want to work as much as men do, however they do like to make less money. So there's that.
 
2012-04-23 09:45:49 PM
I wouldn't fark those two with your dick.
 
2012-04-23 09:47:23 PM
Yeah, it's hard to fun with a bunch of buzzkills and partypoopers about.
 
2012-04-23 09:48:35 PM
More female SS agents?

i293.photobucket.com

Why the fark not?
 
2012-04-23 09:50:04 PM
"You better nut up."
"PHRASING!!!"
"I've just about swallowed as much as I can."
"PHRASING!!!"
 
2012-04-23 09:51:24 PM

Loucifer: Yeah, it's hard to fun with a bunch of buzzkills and partypoopers about.


No matter where ya go, there ya are.
 
2012-04-23 09:54:38 PM
She said "dicker."

mscleo

This is stupid. People should be doing their job regardless of their gender.
I'd hire a hot male prostitue.
I wouldn't dicker about the prices if I were a secrete service agent.
 
2012-04-23 09:55:10 PM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: johnnieconnie: feckingmorons: It does need to be rephrased. If they hired more women they could hire fewer hookers.

Came here to say this, or more English majors.

Well hooking is all an English major qualifies you for.


Agreed, mostly. Aren't there secretary jobs anymore? Which probably pay less than hooking, but still...

/former secretary with liberal arts degree
 
2012-04-23 09:55:46 PM
Isn't it great how CNN states Collins party and ignores Maloney's?
 
2012-04-23 09:55:51 PM

quatchi: More female SS agents?



Why the fark not?


Because they are the Secret Service not the Passive Aggressive shiat-Talking Service.
 
2012-04-23 09:59:13 PM

baorao: quatchi: More female SS agents?

Why the fark not?

Because they are the Secret Service not the Passive Aggressive shiat-Talking Service.


You think women aren't up to the gig?

That a female SS agent would somehow take the job less seriously than the assclowns who got fired here?

[Not sure if trolling or just bitter over never having gotten laid.jpg]
 
2012-04-23 10:02:31 PM

feckingmorons: It does need to be rephrased. If they hired more women they could hire fewer hookers.


Or, they could hire midget hookers if they want less of them.
 
2012-04-23 10:05:08 PM

cmunic8r99: but more gigolos.


i180.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-23 10:05:27 PM

ongbok: I want her to explain how having women on that detail would have stopped a bunch horny men from getting some strange in a foreign country.


The same way a band "Mom" is supposed to keep the band from getting evicted from their house or apartment, keep them from getting arrested for statutory rape and so on.

The female agents would be expected to nag, scold, and threaten male agents with reports to family members. The single ones are threatened with reports to their Mommy.

Guilt precedes family notification with married men. "How could you consider doing this to Lisa? I'm so very, deeply disappointed in you, it breaks my heart. You know how much Lisa loves you. I thought you were one of the good guys. What you're considering; this kind of behavior is beneath you. You're better than this."

And if that doesn't work, the female agent would fall back on threat of family notification. "Don't make me call Lisa. So, help me I will call Lisa and your Mom. I have their numbers programmed into my cell phone."
 
2012-04-23 10:23:54 PM
Corrections officer Jayme Biendl had complained repeatedly to supervisors about working alone in the chapel at the Monroe Correctional Complex. The 5-foot-3, 130-pound officer also complained that security cameras in the area didn't work.

Late Saturday, her worst fears were realized when she was found strangled in the chapel, and a microphone cord was found near her post.


what could go wrong?
 
2012-04-23 10:24:46 PM

ongbok: I want her to explain how having women on that detail would have stopped a bunch horny men from getting some strange in a foreign country.


Well, if they were all women SS agents on the detail then most likely none of them would have been hiring local pros solving the whole whore problem entirely.

If the details had equal numbers of women and guys the idea is that the male agents would be better behaved because the ladies might arguably take a more dim view of their whole "boys will be boys" shenanigans than previously in a 100% sausagefest detail.

To be perfectly honest I don't give a flying f*ck if these guys do fark professionals while off duty in far off lands unless there is some kind of security breach/honey trap thing going on. Similarly, on a personal level as long as they give themselves 6 hours to straighten up/ sober up before returning to duty I don't care if they snort cocaine/ drink/ smoke pot/ huff ether either as long as they are capable of recreational drug use without abuse. That noted, I can also see the necessity of them being on call 24/7 due to the nature of the job being enough of an issue to make mandatory drug testing of these guys seem like a viable option. Either way this is a black eye the SS will live with for years.
 
2012-04-23 10:31:06 PM

ongbok: I want her to explain how having women on that detail would have stopped a bunch horny men from getting some strange in a foreign country.


Umm because when you work with women your environment becomes less like men's locker room. Guys don't just go "Hey lets buy some hookers for our team" when there are women on the team.

You not understanding this makes me just amazed what you do for or living or if you ever actually interact with women professionally.
 
2012-04-23 10:31:19 PM
A woman I graduated high school with is now a Secrete Service agent here in DC. Remembering what she and her brother were like I dunno if she would be the influence these congresswomen think would.
 
2012-04-23 10:33:55 PM

quatchi: To be perfectly honest I don't give a flying f*ck if these guys do fark professionals while off duty in far off lands unless there is some kind of security breach/honey trap thing going on.


How the fark would they know? You think after they have sex the hand out the agents "This will/will not be used for black mail in the future" documents.

You never know if it would be used for blackmail that's why you are not allowed to do it.
 
2012-04-23 10:34:34 PM

smeag0l: Corrections officer Jayme Biendl had complained repeatedly to supervisors about working alone in the chapel at the Monroe Correctional Complex. The 5-foot-3, 130-pound officer also complained that security cameras in the area didn't work.

Late Saturday, her worst fears were realized when she was found strangled in the chapel, and a microphone cord was found near her post.

what could go wrong?


I'd be fine with having a bunch of women like this guard Obama.
 
2012-04-23 10:35:22 PM
Well that only means we will be seeing more of this

i333.photobucket.com

or this

i867.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-23 10:37:47 PM
Starship troopers

/if you haven't seen the opposite sex naked by the time you can join any of these gangs you don't deserve to be a citezen
 
2012-04-23 10:42:32 PM
It wouldn't work.

You see, sometimes you get paired with a female SS agent, but after the lovin is gone, all she wants to do is talk and talk and talk...

But a prostitute is someone who'd love you no matter who you are or what you look like, Yes it's true children.
But that's not why you pay a prostitute. No, you don't pay her to stay. You pay her to leave afterwards.
THAT'S WHY I PRAISE THE LORD FOR PROSTITUUUUUTES.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MR. JAMES TAYLOR,
 
2012-04-23 10:43:59 PM

Corvus: quatchi: To be perfectly honest I don't give a flying f*ck if these guys do fark professionals while off duty in far off lands unless there is some kind of security breach/honey trap thing going on.

How the fark would they know? You think after they have sex the hand out the agents "This will/will not be used for black mail in the future" documents.

You never know if it would be used for blackmail that's why you are not allowed to do it.


They have a morality clause built into their contracts specifically citing "No Nookie"?

You got a link to that? Curious now.
 
2012-04-23 10:45:13 PM

quatchi: baorao: quatchi: More female SS agents?

Why the fark not?

Because they are the Secret Service not the Passive Aggressive shiat-Talking Service.

You think women aren't up to the gig?

That a female SS agent would somehow take the job less seriously than the assclowns who got fired here?

[Not sure if trolling or just bitter over never having gotten laid.jpg]


Just a joke about women and secrets.
 
2012-04-23 10:45:42 PM

mscleo: This is stupid. People should be doing their job regardless of their gender.


I'd hire a hot male prostitue.

I wouldn't dicker about the prices if I were a secrete service agent.


How much are you looking to spend?

/Hypothetically speaking, of course.
 
2012-04-23 10:46:55 PM
Am I the only person to whom the phrase "congress critters" is like nails on a chalkboard? I just want to cockpunch anyone that says it. Don't get me wrong, like, ooh burn! and all, you really had a great "put-down" there Cletus, but that lowly "critter" is getting the last laugh by selling our country's future to the highest bidder while you are sitting there basking in your smug sense of anti-intellectual superiority.
 
2012-04-23 10:47:28 PM

quatchi: Corvus: quatchi: To be perfectly honest I don't give a flying f*ck if these guys do fark professionals while off duty in far off lands unless there is some kind of security breach/honey trap thing going on.

How the fark would they know? You think after they have sex the hand out the agents "This will/will not be used for black mail in the future" documents.

You never know if it would be used for blackmail that's why you are not allowed to do it.

They have a morality clause built into their contracts specifically citing "No Nookie"?

You got a link to that? Curious now.


Yes, It's called having a security clearance. It's not a specific "clause" it's you are not allowed to do things that could have you black mailed.
 
2012-04-23 10:49:42 PM

Corvus: ongbok: I want her to explain how having women on that detail would have stopped a bunch horny men from getting some strange in a foreign country.

Umm because when you work with women your environment becomes less like men's locker room. Guys don't just go "Hey lets buy some hookers for our team" when there are women on the team.

You not understanding this makes me just amazed what you do for or living or if you ever actually interact with women professionally.


Have YOU?

Depends on the woman I guess. If it was me, I'd just say Fine, I'm going back to my room, try not to make too much noise, and if you kill her don't expect me to bail your sorry ass out of jail.
 
2012-04-23 10:51:27 PM

Gyrfalcon: Corvus: ongbok: I want her to explain how having women on that detail would have stopped a bunch horny men from getting some strange in a foreign country.

Umm because when you work with women your environment becomes less like men's locker room. Guys don't just go "Hey lets buy some hookers for our team" when there are women on the team.

You not understanding this makes me just amazed what you do for or living or if you ever actually interact with women professionally.

Have YOU?

Depends on the woman I guess. If it was me, I'd just say Fine, I'm going back to my room, try not to make too much noise, and if you kill her don't expect me to bail your sorry ass out of jail.


So your work place is fine with guys hiring hookers for team? Your company has no problem with that?

Can I have you HR person so I can call them and ask them about that?
 
2012-04-23 10:52:20 PM

Corvus: quatchi: Corvus: quatchi: To be perfectly honest I don't give a flying f*ck if these guys do fark professionals while off duty in far off lands unless there is some kind of security breach/honey trap thing going on.

How the fark would they know? You think after they have sex the hand out the agents "This will/will not be used for black mail in the future" documents.

You never know if it would be used for blackmail that's why you are not allowed to do it.

They have a morality clause built into their contracts specifically citing "No Nookie"?

You got a link to that? Curious now.

Yes, It's called having a security clearance. It's not a specific "clause" it's you are not allowed to do things that could have you black mailed.


So, nothing specific then?

I can see candid photos of SS agents having sex with strange women they are not married to being a concern with married SS agents, obviously, but in 2012 is "I'm gonna reveal to the world the fact that you like to fark" really something you can use to blackmail an unmarried agent?
 
2012-04-23 10:54:55 PM

quatchi: Corvus: quatchi: To be perfectly honest I don't give a flying f*ck if these guys do fark professionals while off duty in far off lands unless there is some kind of security breach/honey trap thing going on.

How the fark would they know? You think after they have sex the hand out the agents "This will/will not be used for black mail in the future" documents.

You never know if it would be used for blackmail that's why you are not allowed to do it.

They have a morality clause built into their contracts specifically citing "No Nookie"?

You got a link to that? Curious now.


Probably not "No Nookie." More like, "No Nookie with A Prostitute the Night Before the President Arrives, But If You Do, At Least Have the Sense to Pay Her So She Doesn't Throw A Justified Fit and Get the Cops Involved When You're in A Country with Legalized Prostitution, Because Unlike American* Prostitutes, They CAN Get the Cops Involved."

Something like that. I'm sure they get special lectures on honey traps as well.

*Void in Nevada.
 
2012-04-23 10:55:16 PM

quatchi: So, nothing specific then?

I can see candid photos of SS agents having sex with strange women they are not married to being a concern with married SS agents, obviously, but in 2012 is "I'm gonna reveal to the world the fact that you like to fark" really something you can use to blackmail an unmarried agent?


Under a security clearance you have to report interaction with foreign nationals.

Please inform me how security clearances work and how I am wrong this is amusing to me.

When did you have you clearance? Do you still have one? You are the expert on it right?
 
2012-04-23 11:03:17 PM

quatchi: Yes, It's called having a security clearance. It's not a specific "clause" it's you are not allowed to do things that could have you black mailed.

So, nothing specific then?


How is this for "specific":

The Concern: Sexual behavior that involves a criminal offense, indicates a personality or emotional disorder, reflects lack of judgment or discretion, or which may subject the individual to undue influence or coercion, exploitation, or duress can raise questions about an individual's reliability, trustworthiness and ability to protect classified information. No adverse inference concerning the standards in the Guideline may be raised solely on the basis of the sexual orientation of the individual.

Conditions that could raise a security concern and may be disqualifying include:

sexual behavior of a criminal nature, whether or not the individual has been prosecuted;
a pattern of compulsive, self-destructive, or high-risk sexual behavior that the person is unable to stop or that may be symptomatic of a personality disorder;
sexual behavior that causes an individual to be vulnerable to coercion, exploitation, or duress;
sexual behavior of a public nature and/or that which reflects lack of discretion or judgment.


Conditions that could mitigate security concerns include:

the behavior occurred prior to or during adolescence and there is no evidence of subsequent conduct of a similar nature;
the sexual behavior happened so long ago, so infrequently, or under such unusual circumstances, that it is unlikely to recur and does not cast doubt on the individual's current reliability, trustworthiness, or good judgment;
the behavior no longer serves as a basis for coercion, exploitation, or duress;
the sexual behavior is strictly private, consensual, and discreet.



I know you won't this counts either. Because your the "expert" and can't admit he is wrong even though you have no idea what you are talking about.
 
2012-04-23 11:03:28 PM

Corvus: Gyrfalcon: Corvus: ongbok: I want her to explain how having women on that detail would have stopped a bunch horny men from getting some strange in a foreign country.

Umm because when you work with women your environment becomes less like men's locker room. Guys don't just go "Hey lets buy some hookers for our team" when there are women on the team.

You not understanding this makes me just amazed what you do for or living or if you ever actually interact with women professionally.

Have YOU?

Depends on the woman I guess. If it was me, I'd just say Fine, I'm going back to my room, try not to make too much noise, and if you kill her don't expect me to bail your sorry ass out of jail.

So your work place is fine with guys hiring hookers for team? Your company has no problem with that?

Can I have you HR person so I can call them and ask them about that?


No, your statement was about the "team," not the workplace itself. (anyway, I'm currently unemployed) Your comment was that having a woman "on the team" changed the work environment such that the men wouldn't be comfortable with hiring whores "for the team." My reply was to that statement, not to whether or not our joint employer would have a problem with it.

Unless your implication was more that men wouldn't hire hookers because the women would rat them out; but I wouldn't do that, either. I just wouldn't cover for them if somebody asked me.
 
2012-04-23 11:04:43 PM
MI5 is worried about sex. In a 14-page document distributed last year to hundreds of British banks, businesses, and financial institutions, titled "The Threat from Chinese Espionage," the famed British security service described a wide-ranging Chinese effort to blackmail Western businesspeople over sexual relationships. The document, as the London Times reported in January, explicitly warns that Chinese intelligence services are trying to cultivate "long-term relationships" and have been known to "exploit vulnerabilities such as sexual relationships ... to pressurise individuals to co-operate with them."

This latest report on Chinese corporate espionage tactics is only the most recent installment in a long and sordid history of spies and sex. For millennia, spymasters of all sorts have trained their spies to use the amorous arts to obtain secret information.

The trade name for this type of spying is the "honey trap." And it turns out that both men and women are equally adept at setting one -- and equally vulnerable to tumbling in. Spies use sex, intelligence, and the thrill of a secret life as bait. Cleverness, training, character, and patriotism are often no defense against a well-set honey trap. And as in normal life, no planning can take into account that a romance begun in deceit might actually turn into a genuine, passionate affair. In fact, when an East German honey trap was exposed in 1997, one of the women involved refused to believe she had been deceived, even when presented with the evidence. "No, that's not true," she insisted. "He really loved me."

Long article here:

Link

I'm sure anyone with access to information about the President's travel schedule gets warned to avoid situations like this.
 
2012-04-23 11:09:14 PM

Gyrfalcon: Unless your implication was more that men wouldn't hire hookers because the women would rat them out; but I wouldn't do that, either. I just wouldn't cover for them if somebody asked me.


No some people just don't like to be offensive to others even if they are not going to "rat them out". Is not offending people you work with as a common curtsey a foreign concept to you?

The only reason you are not offensive to people is you are afraid they will "Rat you out"? You don't believe in being courteous to you fellow workers just to have a nice working environment? Maybe that's why you are unemployed.
 
2012-04-23 11:15:53 PM

Gyrfalcon: Unless your implication was more that men wouldn't hire hookers because the women would rat them out; but I wouldn't do that, either. I just wouldn't cover for them if somebody asked me.


And that's the important part. The expectation is that another guy WOULD cover for them.

/Something with a "b" before something with an "h," I forget the phrase.
 
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