WizardofToast: The Tea Party ran behind widely-accepted ideas such as controlling government spending and wanting to hold government officials accountable for their actions. But instead of being a third-party group, it stuck almost entirely behind Republican ideals and "Socialist Kenya Marxist Ni-*BONG* Obama will kill us all" nuts ended up latching to it. And with no severe moderation and in fact denying the racism leaking from the movement, it just spiraled into a mess.

You have to remember, the Tea Party may have started with a group preaching fiscal responsibility, but once Obama got elected, they just became a smokescreen for Republicans who were too embarrassed to admit they cheerled Bush driving the economy off a cliff.

The Tea Party: caring about the economy since 1/20/09

Still trying to convince yourselves that the Tea Party wasn't relevant and is just a few deranged people?

Just keep telling yourself that while trying to convince yourself that the "sane" people are the ones rioting and taking a dump on police cars.

randomjsa: Still trying to convince yourselves that the Tea Party wasn't relevant and is just a few deranged people?

Just keep telling yourself that while trying to convince yourself that the "sane" people are the ones rioting and taking a dump on police cars.

Awww. randomjsa/libbynomore2/stewmadness is feeling persecuted. Must be a day that ends in "day."

randomjsa: Still trying to convince yourselves that the Tea Party wasn't relevant and is just a few deranged people?

Just keep telling yourself that while trying to convince yourself that the "sane" people are the ones rioting and taking a dump on police cars.

I take it back. You're the worst.

stoli n coke: WizardofToast: The Tea Party ran behind widely-accepted ideas such as controlling government spending and wanting to hold government officials accountable for their actions. But instead of being a third-party group, it stuck almost entirely behind Republican ideals and "Socialist Kenya Marxist Ni-*BONG* Obama will kill us all" nuts ended up latching to it. And with no severe moderation and in fact denying the racism leaking from the movement, it just spiraled into a mess.

You have to remember, the Tea Party may have started with a group preaching fiscal responsibility, but once Obama got elected, they just became a smokescreen for Republicans who were too embarrassed to admit they cheerled Bush driving the economy off a cliff.

The Tea Party: caring about the economy since 1/20/09

running up deficits during good times - no problem!
running deficits when world wide demand has collapsed so as to avoid a large scale depression - treason!

OgreMagi: As for the tea party. At first I symphathized. I even recognized the one sided reporting by the newspapers, e.g. representing the entire movement by that guy with that extremely racist sign.

OgreMagi: The OWS people with hardcore pro-communism signs turned me off to their movement.

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OgreMagi: The OWS people with hardcore pro-communism signs turned me off to their movement.

What signs? "Commie Moar!"? OWS was never about communism as a form of government. That's silly.

boy, there are a lot of scared old stupid incompetent racist white people coming out in this thread. The usual suspects, but hey.

Shut up, randomjsa, you cock. This thread is about tacos.

Soup4Bonnie: OgreMagi: The OWS people with hardcore pro-communism signs turned me off to their movement.

What signs? "Commie Moar!"? OWS was never about communism as a form of government. That's silly.

Well, the troll you're responding to (like most teabaggers) isn't going to let facts get in the way of his hallucinations.

AnEvilGuest: stoli n coke: WizardofToast: The Tea Party ran behind widely-accepted ideas such as controlling government spending and wanting to hold government officials accountable for their actions. But instead of being a third-party group, it stuck almost entirely behind Republican ideals and "Socialist Kenya Marxist Ni-*BONG* Obama will kill us all" nuts ended up latching to it. And with no severe moderation and in fact denying the racism leaking from the movement, it just spiraled into a mess.

You have to remember, the Tea Party may have started with a group preaching fiscal responsibility, but once Obama got elected, they just became a smokescreen for Republicans who were too embarrassed to admit they cheerled Bush driving the economy off a cliff.

The Tea Party: caring about the economy since 1/20/09

running up deficits during good times - no problem!
running deficits when world wide demand has collapsed so as to avoid a large scale depression - treason!

Not sure what your point is, but cheerleading while someone runs up a trillion dollar war debt and keeps it off the books ain't exactly fiscal conservatism.

No, the Tea Party is not relevant in 2012. They don't have a candidate in the race. Now, that's not to say that their power is completely gone; if Mitt Romney wins the election, I fully envision him making draconian cuts just to suck up to them. With the number of House Tea Party members who will retain their seats and the likely control of the Senate switching to Republican, it's a frightening prospect indeed. At least with Obama we'll get more stagnation thanks to their obstruction. "Doing nothing" actually is better than letting the Republicans make things worse.

stoli n coke: Not sure what your point is, but cheerleading while someone runs up a trillion dollar war debt and keeps it off the books ain't exactly fiscal conservatism.

It's the Two Santa Claus theory. Republicans were tired of being the Scrooge holding back the purse strings while the Democrats were the Santa Claus handing out all kinds of gifts from the public treasury in the form of social programmes, welfare, medicare, etc. So, in the late 1970s Jude Wanninski put together the "Two Santa Claus Theory" which said that Republicans, too, could be a Santa Claus; they just needed to buy the votes using tax cuts instead of lavish handouts. The theory also requires that they continue deficit spending with those tax cuts so as to increase the debt to a point where the Democrats were in a stranglehold and could no longer buy any more votes with new programmes. It's all a part of the long-term strategy; get into office by slashing taxes, then run up a ton of debt so that Democrats can't offer any of their "helping the people" party planks. The Democrat candidate then has to run on a message of austerity, and then there's really nothing to differentiate them from the Republicans who are selling the same message.

Brilliant, really.

See this, Occupy? This is why you stay the fark away from electoral politics. They'll throw you some crumbs and then break you.

stoli n coke: AnEvilGuest: stoli n coke: WizardofToast: The Tea Party ran behind widely-accepted ideas such as controlling government spending and wanting to hold government officials accountable for their actions. But instead of being a third-party group, it stuck almost entirely behind Republican ideals and "Socialist Kenya Marxist Ni-*BONG* Obama will kill us all" nuts ended up latching to it. And with no severe moderation and in fact denying the racism leaking from the movement, it just spiraled into a mess.

You have to remember, the Tea Party may have started with a group preaching fiscal responsibility, but once Obama got elected, they just became a smokescreen for Republicans who were too embarrassed to admit they cheerled Bush driving the economy off a cliff.

The Tea Party: caring about the economy since 1/20/09

running up deficits during good times - no problem!
running deficits when world wide demand has collapsed so as to avoid a large scale depression - treason!

Not sure what your point is, but cheerleading while someone runs up a trillion dollar war debt and keeps it off the books ain't exactly fiscal conservatism.

I think running a deficit when there isn't a major recession is irresponsible and I was using my, perhaps inadequate, talent for sarcasm to express this.
I also wished to imply that those who saw the light of fiscal responsibility only when it was counterproductive were either disingenuous regarding their motives or just plain stupid.

keithgabryelski: the real question is. who is the first republican to rebuke the tea party.

and when i say tea party, i mean those people that are god fearing, can't have a successful marriage because the love of those damn homos keep filling their minds, debt loving when it's their cause but debt hating on paper, and want to get the government out of their medicare.

None, none so brave

keithgabryelski: the real question is. who is the first republican to rebuke the tea party.

and when i say tea party, i mean those people that are god fearing, can't have a successful marriage because the love of those damn homos keep filling their minds, debt loving when it's their cause but debt hating on paper, and want to get the government out of their medicare.

Huntsman did yesterday saying that they had become like the Chinese Communist party casting out anyone who disagrees. He recanted his statement later today unfortunately.

How can anyone say the tea party is not relevant? The tea party is quite alive and influential.

They have frightened many republicans into acquiescence,
moved the national dialogue well to the right on many social issues,
and ensured that a large portion of us, who once identified as conservative will vote democratic across the board in 2012.

I kind of got tired of being yelled at because I really don't care if gay people marry, I really don't think it is fiscally responsible to round up every last Mexican and kick them out, I am tired of being called an elitist because I have a degree from a state college, and I am pretty sure that we should listen to an actual economist and ya know raise taxes while cutting spending.

You can only be called a RINO so many times before you say "fark it" at least the Dems are somewhat willing to listen to the friggin economists about the freakin economy.

Gonz: LectertheChef: Mugato: I'ma making tacos tonight and there's more to learn about my next movement than that one. And I'm using lean beef.

Beef? So pedestrian, try Cochinita Pibil instead.

Slow roasted pork with Achote, marinated in Seville Oranges, topped with chopped red onions, and served with Habeñero salsa. That's flavor, motherfarker.

Try tongue sometime. Seriously, throw a tongue into the slow cooker with a little water, some chopped onion, a few cloves of garlic, some spices... It pulls apart like pork, and tastes amazing.

I'm picky about my tacos, though. Like "grow my own cilantro" picky.

Oh, and the 'baggers are a group of idiots. And probably don't make decent tacos.

I'll have to try that sometime. Though right now I don't have to do much cooking, as a wonderful new taco shop opened up around the corner. Lots of traditional stuff, still working my way through their menu, trying dishes I've never had (Or heard of) before.

randomjsa: Still trying to convince yourselves that the Tea Party wasn't relevant and is just a few deranged people?

Just keep telling yourself that while trying to convince yourself that the "sane" people are the ones rioting and taking a dump on police cars.

In an insane world, shiatting on cop cars is the only sane choice.

smellysocksnshoes: How can anyone say the tea party is not relevant? The tea party is quite alive and influential.

They have frightened many republicans into acquiescence,
moved the national dialogue well to the right on many social issues,
and ensured that a large portion of us, who once identified as conservative will vote democratic across the board in 2012.

I kind of got tired of being yelled at because I really don't care if gay people marry, I really don't think it is fiscally responsible to round up every last Mexican and kick them out, I am tired of being called an elitist because I have a degree from a state college, and I am pretty sure that we should listen to an actual economist and ya know raise taxes while cutting spending.

You can only be called a RINO so many times before you say "fark it" at least the Dems are somewhat willing to listen to the friggin economists about the freakin economy.

The GOP brought it on themselves when they started bowing to these imbeciles. A lot of them didn't read the end of the book where Frankenstein killed Dr. Frankenstein.

LectertheChef: randomjsa: Still trying to convince yourselves that the Tea Party wasn't relevant and is just a few deranged people?

Just keep telling yourself that while trying to convince yourself that the "sane" people are the ones rioting and taking a dump on police cars.

In an insane world, shiatting on cop cars is the only sane choice.

One single sane person in a nation of over 300 million people ?
sounds about right

randomjsa: Still trying to convince yourselves that the Tea Party wasn't relevant and is just a few deranged people?

Just keep telling yourself that while trying to convince yourself that the "sane" people are the ones rioting and taking a dump on police cars.

This "post" brought to you by Fark's Premiere Cut-and-Run Hatemonger. The one who believes if you don't support the teabaggers then you deserve to die in a terrorist attack.

ghare: Soup4Bonnie: OgreMagi: The OWS people with hardcore pro-communism signs turned me off to their movement.

What signs? "Commie Moar!"? OWS was never about communism as a form of government. That's silly.

Well, the troll you're responding to (like most teabaggers) isn't going to let facts get in the way of his hallucinations.

Personally I like the reference to "that guy" with the racist sign at tea bag rallies.

Singular.

Is he stupid or does he think everyone else is?

[racist tea bagger sign.jpg] X 50

(which I would post but I'm on my iPhone and posting pics is a pain in the ass)

LectertheChef: Gonz: LectertheChef: Mugato: I'ma making tacos tonight and there's more to learn about my next movement than that one. And I'm using lean beef.

Beef? So pedestrian, try Cochinita Pibil instead.

Slow roasted pork with Achote, marinated in Seville Oranges, topped with chopped red onions, and served with Habeñero salsa. That's flavor, motherfarker.

Try tongue sometime. Seriously, throw a tongue into the slow cooker with a little water, some chopped onion, a few cloves of garlic, some spices... It pulls apart like pork, and tastes amazing.

I'm picky about my tacos, though. Like "grow my own cilantro" picky.

Oh, and the 'baggers are a group of idiots. And probably don't make decent tacos.

I'll have to try that sometime. Though right now I don't have to do much cooking, as a wonderful new taco shop opened up around the corner. Lots of traditional stuff, still working my way through their menu, trying dishes I've never had (Or heard of) before.

I have never done tongue in the slow cooker before. Only pickled it.

I must try this. Thank you.

/offal thread jack.

LectertheChef: I'll have to try that sometime. Though right now I don't have to do much cooking, as a wonderful new taco shop opened up around the corner. Lots of traditional stuff, still working my way through their menu, trying dishes I've never had (Or heard of) before.

It's worth your time. And I'm in San Antonio, so I can get incredible tacos and tamales off a truck downtown almost any time.

The Teabaggers would be in a better place if they didn't fark up twice: once in destroying the Republican chances of getting the Senate in 2010, and then crashing the credit rating out of spite in 2011. If they didn't manage to piss off the Party and the Rich, we would still be seeing their racist asses funded right up until November 2012.

All of this 'news' about the Teabaggers losing popularity is the Republican way of burying the 'movement' because it's not even worth bringing back. It was quickly turned into a joke that perfectly stated the types who would buy into this shiat (ill-educated, unaware, sheltered, and old) and has been a sad embarrassment ever since. The Republican Party could have hired Larry the Cable Guy to pimp their brand and it would have been less embarrassing (not to mention less funny). The golden days of worshipping America's frightened rural lunatics is now over: Dubya showed they will follow anything with an R in its name, and Obama has shown that it doesn't take much to frighten them because they're essentially retarded cattle. The Republican Base is a guaranteed vote because they don't have the intelligence to form their own party, don't have the sense to realize their views don't travel amongst their own party, and that they will always vote Republican because of .

Lando Lincoln: Their definition of "freedom" is "freedom to make things the way I like it and screw everybody else."


Actually, one thesis of Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America was that of the 4 settler groups only the Quakers had any notion of reciprocal freedom - that my freedom shouldn't impinge on your freedom. The others saw freedom as the freedom to take away other's freedom because most everybody needed to be ruled over and thus could not have much freedom..

The Puritans wanted the freedom to come up with the true set of religious rules that everybody had to live by under penalty of violence. The Cavaliers believed in a strong hierarchy where nobody could interfere with how they usurped he freedom of those beneath them. The Scots-Irish had similar ideas to the Cavaliers but with a much flatter hierarchy so it was mainly head of family type tough guys bullying women, children, slaves. and any other man they thought they were more powerful than.

Bill_Wick's_Friend: ghare: Soup4Bonnie: OgreMagi: The OWS people with hardcore pro-communism signs turned me off to their movement.

What signs? "Commie Moar!"? OWS was never about communism as a form of government. That's silly.

Well, the troll you're responding to (like most teabaggers) isn't going to let facts get in the way of his hallucinations.

Personally I like the reference to "that guy" with the racist sign at tea bag rallies.

Singular.

Is he stupid or does he think everyone else is?

[racist tea bagger sign.jpg] X 50

(which I would post but I'm on my iPhone and posting pics is a pain in the ass)

seriously. There are at least a dozen of those guys.

Gonz: LectertheChef: I'll have to try that sometime. Though right now I don't have to do much cooking, as a wonderful new taco shop opened up around the corner. Lots of traditional stuff, still working my way through their menu, trying dishes I've never had (Or heard of) before.

It's worth your time. And I'm in San Antonio, so I can get incredible tacos and tamales off a truck downtown almost any time.

*shakes tiny fist*

I'm up in Vancouver and it's very hard to find decent Mexican food here for love or money.

We have tons of great Chinese places, great Sushi places, wicked European and Foo-Foo Fusiony cuisines and even Indian and African places are all available here in great variety but very few good taco/tamale places.

Which is why when I do travel to the US I turn into a total taco whore. It's not pretty but it's very tasty.

OgreMagi: Where's a socially liberal, fiscally conservative guy to go?

That would be the Democratic Party.

quatchi: Gonz: LectertheChef: I'll have to try that sometime. Though right now I don't have to do much cooking, as a wonderful new taco shop opened up around the corner. Lots of traditional stuff, still working my way through their menu, trying dishes I've never had (Or heard of) before.

It's worth your time. And I'm in San Antonio, so I can get incredible tacos and tamales off a truck downtown almost any time.

*shakes tiny fist*

I'm up in Vancouver and it's very hard to find decent Mexican food here for love or money.

We have tons of great Chinese places, great Sushi places, wicked European and Foo-Foo Fusiony cuisines and even Indian and African places are all available here in great variety but very few good taco/tamale places.

Which is why when I do travel to the US I turn into a total taco whore. It's not pretty but it's very tasty.

I think I'm going to jack Total Taco Whores as a band name

The Tea Party started out as a somewhat noble movement, however they soon became co-opted by the GOP establishment for votes and the corporate concerns for support for legislation that helped them.

The Tea Party anymore are a band of economically illiterate, worked-up Southern dwelling white retirees with a lot of time on their hands who need to have "something to biatch about" to feel alive, who are ignorant to the fact that "not everything on the internet is true" and who think they are being "patriotic" by doing all they can to thwart the agenda of the "Communist Marxist Kenyan Ni-BONG" in the White House. They've got "theirs" and could care less about people trying to make a life for themselves in the ruins of our society that was turned to shiat by the money grubbing corporateers and banksters who were enabled by Republican policies.

I hate the farkers, to be honest.

The Tea Party is an insurgency. Insurgents are used after the army has been defeated and your land is occupied. This is a Presidential election year, the one time in four years both sides stand up and fight open-field. Strategically speaking, this is the time for uniforms and troops, not insurgents.

They'll be back in 2013, after the defeat and subsequent purge.

smellysocksnshoes: How can anyone say the tea party is not relevant? The tea party is quite alive and influential.

They have frightened many republicans into acquiescence,
moved the national dialogue well to the right on many social issues,
and ensured that a large portion of us, who once identified as conservative will vote democratic across the board in 2012.

I kind of got tired of being yelled at because I really don't care if gay people marry, I really don't think it is fiscally responsible to round up every last Mexican and kick them out, I am tired of being called an elitist because I have a degree from a state college, and I am pretty sure that we should listen to an actual economist and ya know raise taxes while cutting spending.

You can only be called a RINO so many times before you say "fark it" at least the Dems are somewhat willing to listen to the friggin economists about the freakin economy.

slow clap.

"More than six in ten people said they were not interested in learning more about the movement, and a majority said the more they learned, the less they liked"

Ah, they were surveying people about Libertarians.

/D&D of politics

Shocking. Now...vote the pieces of shiat out.

soy_bomb: YouWinAgainGravity: Most people don't want to support a group of bigots, zealots, hypocrites, and all-around dumbasses.

Pretty much why OWS went down in flames.

No.

Giltric: What counts as the tea party these days?

The guy wth the racist posters or some right wing religious wacko or the small government types?

I was having trouble sympathizing with OWS due to their "Free Mumia" slogan so I myself understand other peoples confusion IRT the Tea Party.

So, since you don't know what the tea party is (hint: there are about 70 of them in Congress....people don't like them) they must be popular.

OgreMagi: The OWS people with hardcore pro-communism signs turned me off to their movement. I think it shows how much our universities are failing to educate (or the faculty simple avoids talking about the real history of communism).

You are a fairly thoughtful person. A few extremists turn you off to a whole movement?

soy_bomb: dracos31: OK I have to ask you - you have now shiat on this thread twice and gotten zero bites. At what point do you realize your trolling has jumped the shark and activate a new alt?

Bless your little heart and thank you for taking the time to share with everyone.

No, bless YOUR heart, honey!

Fluorescent Testicle: OgreMagi: As for the tea party. At first I symphathized. I even recognized the one sided reporting by the newspapers, e.g. representing the entire movement by that guy with that extremely racist sign.

OgreMagi: The OWS people with hardcore pro-communism signs turned me off to their movement.

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Wow, that I didn't notice. Good catch.

Sabyen91: soy_bomb: dracos31: OK I have to ask you - you have now shiat on this thread twice and gotten zero bites. At what point do you realize your trolling has jumped the shark and activate a new alt?

Bless your little heart and thank you for taking the time to share with everyone.

No, bless YOUR heart, honey!

the regular Joes and Janes from all walks of life who are tired of government corruption and corporate purchase of elections period aren't your average OWS protestor and haven't been since they hyped up the union types marching with them the first week it was happening.

skullkrusher: Sabyen91: soy_bomb: dracos31: OK I have to ask you - you have now shiat on this thread twice and gotten zero bites. At what point do you realize your trolling has jumped the shark and activate a new alt?

Bless your little heart and thank you for taking the time to share with everyone.

No, bless YOUR heart, honey!

the regular Joes and Janes from all walks of life who are tired of government corruption and corporate purchase of elections period aren't your average OWS protestor and haven't been since they hyped up the union types marching with them the first week it was happening.

No, bless YOUR heart.