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(Huffington Post)   White House hosts Faith-Based initiative conference with American Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh and Jain communities. Where is your Uttaradhyanayanasutra now?   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 70
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2012-04-23 08:40:28 PM
PonceAlyosha: I have no problem with this but I think we should have equal time for a Science-Based initiatives. Invite representatives of each of the major fields of science to chill and talk about nebulous, unactionable solutions to problems, just as these fine gentlemen are.

Religious belief has inspired many charitable works and renown art projects. Has the pursuit of science ever produced anything of value to humanity?
 
2012-04-23 08:42:08 PM
Dimensio: PonceAlyosha: I have no problem with this but I think we should have equal time for a Science-Based initiatives. Invite representatives of each of the major fields of science to chill and talk about nebulous, unactionable solutions to problems, just as these fine gentlemen are.

Religious belief has inspired many charitable works and renown art projects. Has the pursuit of science ever produced anything of value to humanity?


HELL NAW.
 
2012-04-23 08:47:00 PM
Tyrone Slothrop: A man named Jain?


movieactors.com

"My name is Peter Janeway. Call me Janey. All my friends do."

/From what I remember, his character had a NTTAWWT relationship with Roy Scheider's character in the novel.
 
2012-04-23 08:49:09 PM
Dimensio: PonceAlyosha: I have no problem with this but I think we should have equal time for a Science-Based initiatives. Invite representatives of each of the major fields of science to chill and talk about nebulous, unactionable solutions to problems, just as these fine gentlemen are.

Religious belief has inspired many charitable works and renown art projects. Has the pursuit of science ever produced anything of value to humanity?


which religion created packet switched networks?

not sure if serious, stupid, or trolling.

leaning towards trolling.
 
2012-04-23 08:52:32 PM
Kumana Wanalaia: Dimensio: PonceAlyosha: I have no problem with this but I think we should have equal time for a Science-Based initiatives. Invite representatives of each of the major fields of science to chill and talk about nebulous, unactionable solutions to problems, just as these fine gentlemen are.

Religious belief has inspired many charitable works and renown art projects. Has the pursuit of science ever produced anything of value to humanity?

which religion created packet switched networks?

not sure if serious, stupid, or trolling.

leaning towards trolling.


good call
 
2012-04-23 08:52:48 PM
Tyrone Slothrop: A man named Jain?

I hear he's done with Sergio.
 
2012-04-23 09:53:30 PM
bring back

freep-impact
 
2012-04-23 09:58:27 PM
willfullyobscure: bring back

freep-impact


Link
 
2012-04-23 10:01:46 PM
Cagey B: DamnYankees: Aren't they engaging them for charitable and humanitarian purposes?

What if they are? Does that somehow make things different? Shall we turn over humanitarian outreach efforts currently sponsored by the US to religious organizations?

I've never been comfortable with the Obama Administration's willingness to continue "faith-based initiatives" begun under Bush II. Again, this isn't some horrible atrocity that I'm going to wig out over, but I question its appropriateness.


So, you're wigging out over it.

This just in: Lots of people around the world have faith in their various religions. Lots of nations are more receptive to humanitarian outreach efforts if they are sponsored by religious organizations. Lots of people IN those nations are more comfortable with humanitarian outreach efforts if they are sponsored and endorsed by their religious organizations, instead of having a big American flag plastered on the side.

I know that's not "rational" or "logical" but it is often the way people work.
 
2012-04-23 10:31:30 PM
HighOnCraic: Tyrone Slothrop: A man named Jain?


[movieactors.com image 266x151]

"My name is Peter Janeway. Call me Janey. All my friends do."

/From what I remember, his character had a NTTAWWT relationship with Roy Scheider's character in the novel.


m.popstar.com
Yesh.
 
2012-04-23 10:38:17 PM
phamwaa: HighOnCraic: Tyrone Slothrop: A man named Jain?


[movieactors.com image 266x151]

"My name is Peter Janeway. Call me Janey. All my friends do."

/From what I remember, his character had a NTTAWWT relationship with Roy Scheider's character in the novel.

[m.popstar.com image 300x412]
Yesh.


Oh, and should I have added "spoiler alert"?
 
2012-04-23 10:39:57 PM
AnEvilGuest: Tyrone Slothrop: A man named Jain?

The hero of Karnataka. The man they call Jain


i293.photobucket.com

"Ain't about you, Jain; it's about what they need."
 
2012-04-23 10:40:38 PM
Somacandra: ... will find something to get amazingly butthurt about. Or at least out of consistent principle, they should.

What's upsetting about this, exactly? I mean, their beliefs are incorrect, but we don't pile on Islam and Christianity because they're demonstrably incorrect, we pile on them because they're incorrect and trying to force the rest of us to obey their logically invalid and/or hypocritical rules by having them encoded into law.

Since your example is the Jains, I'll follow on it: Jainism is, on the whole, shockingly, ridiculously mysogynistic in its basic philosophy. Does this matter? No, because no one is lobbying congress to officially state that no woman can achieve adequacy without dying and being reincarnated as a man.
 
2012-04-23 11:05:41 PM
Sybarite: So, sort of a Dharma Initiative.

This post did not get the love it deserved.
 
2012-04-23 11:11:22 PM
Chameleon: Sybarite: So, sort of a Dharma Initiative.

This post did not get the love it deserved.


Hey, I tried to follow up on it.

/But yeah, this one wins the thread.
 
2012-04-23 11:42:18 PM
balisane: White House hosts religious leaders all the time; just because these didn't happen to be Judeo-Christain flavored doesn't mean it was any different than usual.

It actually might mean it is different than usual.
 
2012-04-24 12:23:23 AM
Cagey B: DamnYankees: Cagey B: This doesn't strike me as terribly appropriate activity by the White House.

Why? Maybe I'm missing something, but this seems like any of the hundred other random things they do each year.

I feel pretty strongly about separation of church and state, and I think the idea of the White House providing organizational assistance to religious groups (in this case, giving a forum to established churches who are seeking to streamline their outreach efforts and, thus, further their influence) isn't appropriate.

Is it THE WORST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED? No, of course not. But why does the United States government need to be involved in something like this?


They should obviously be spending time denouncing the Pope instead.
 
2012-04-24 12:29:51 AM
SN1987a goes boom: Cagey B: DamnYankees: Cagey B: This doesn't strike me as terribly appropriate activity by the White House.

Why? Maybe I'm missing something, but this seems like any of the hundred other random things they do each year.

I feel pretty strongly about separation of church and state, and I think the idea of the White House providing organizational assistance to religious groups (in this case, giving a forum to established churches who are seeking to streamline their outreach efforts and, thus, further their influence) isn't appropriate.

Is it THE WORST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED? No, of course not. But why does the United States government need to be involved in something like this?

They should obviously be spending time denouncing the Pope instead.


crooksandliars.com

Unavailable for comment.
 
2012-04-24 12:52:47 AM
www.dearmrlevy.com

Can somebody,Please think of the Zorastrians?
 
2012-04-24 09:19:26 AM
PonceAlyosha: I think they mean forced conversion through coercion. They fact that it rhymes does not make the crime less heinous.

In the criminal justice system, religion based offenses are considered especially heinous. In New York City, the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Shinto Vedic Unit. These are their stories.
 
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