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vygramul		2012-04-23 10:40:15 AM

This thread could be great.

ManateeGag		2012-04-23 10:44:24 AM

Reagan's alive!?

MaudlinMutantMollusk		2012-04-23 10:46:17 AM

Zombie Harry Truman?

ginandbacon		2012-04-23 10:48:34 AM

"A more effective strategy, Clinton has told anyone who would listen, would be to focus almost exclusively on Romney's description of himself as a "severe conservative," to deny him any chance to tack back to the center, according to three Democrats close to the situation."

Smart. Clinton's still got it.

NowhereMon		2012-04-23 10:48:52 AM

So are we going to rename Washington National Airport?

NecoConeco		2012-04-23 10:52:28 AM

I clicked the link expecting FDR and I got Bubba.

AmazinTim		2012-04-23 11:00:35 AM

Dwight?!

WhoIsWillo		2012-04-23 11:12:09 AM

YOU RANG?

kronicfeld		2012-04-23 11:17:50 AM

FloydA		2012-04-23 11:18:02 AM

NecoConeco: I clicked the link expecting FDR and I got Bubba.

This

Clinton was a good President, but "Greatest President of the 20th Century" is FDR, hands down, with no real competition.

hubiestubert		2012-04-23 11:18:16 AM

ginandbacon: "A more effective strategy, Clinton has told anyone who would listen, would be to focus almost exclusively on Romney's description of himself as a "severe conservative," to deny him any chance to tack back to the center, according to three Democrats close to the situation."

Smart. Clinton's still got it.

It's how he got into office. He went to the middle and forced his opponents to swerve even harder right. It has had dire consequence, and that strategy has given us the political climate we're in today--but it may just break the back of the GOP in the long haul...

JerseyTim		2012-04-23 11:20:30 AM

BritneysSpeculum		2012-04-23 11:20:46 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Zombie Harry Truman?

farm4.staticflickr.com

How about Harry drinking a Zombie?

vygramul		2012-04-23 11:37:30 AM

NowhereMon: So are we going to rename Washington National Airport?

Again?

/still love the dumbest argument for tacking on "Reagan": "it should be named after a great president"

vygramul		2012-04-23 11:38:26 AM

kronicfeld: [cdn.bleacherreport.net image 350x283]

Figures you would pick a socialist eco-terrorist?

cman		2012-04-23 11:39:23 AM

Sorry, subs

Clinton was a good president, yes, but Teddy farking Roosevelt kicks everyones ass

/OMG a right-winger saying Clinton was a good president? THE HORROR

EnviroDude		2012-04-23 11:58:29 AM

Clinton? Wasn't he disbarred for obstruction of justice? Didn't he have to pony up $$$ to Paula Jones for it?

cameroncrazy1984		2012-04-23 12:02:12 PM

cman: Clinton was a good president, yes, but Teddy farking Roosevelt kicks everyones ass

That's because Roosevelt was a progressive.

cameroncrazy1984		2012-04-23 12:04:03 PM

EnviroDude: Clinton? Wasn't he disbarred for obstruction of justice? Didn't he have to pony up $$$ to Paula Jones for it?

Nope:

In 2000 the Arkansas Supreme Court's Committee on Professional Conduct called for the disbarment of President Bill Clinton, saying he lied about his affair with Monica Lewinsky. In January 2001 Clinton reached an agreement under which he was ordered to pay $25,000 in fines to Arkansas state's bar officials and his Arkansas law license was suspended for five years.[4] The agreement came on the condition that Whitewater prosecutors would not pursue federal perjury charges against him.[5] Clinton was suspended by the Supreme Court in October 2001, and, facing disbarment from that court, Clinton resigned from the Supreme Court bar in November.[6]

cman		2012-04-23 12:04:18 PM

cameroncrazy1984: cman: Clinton was a good president, yes, but Teddy farking Roosevelt kicks everyones ass

That's because Roosevelt was a progressive.

Teddy was the best president because he didnt take any shiat from anyone.

He is the perfect example of how a leader should be.

Dave Lister		2012-04-23 12:08:37 PM

AmazinTim: Dwight?!

This.

valar_morghulis		2012-04-23 12:09:59 PM

Figures. Black presidents got to stick together.

HMS_Blinkin		2012-04-23 12:10:28 PM

FloydA: NecoConeco: I clicked the link expecting FDR and I got Bubba.

This

Clinton was a good President, but "Greatest President of the 20th Century" is FDR, hands down, with no real competition.

Agreed, but Clinton was a master campaigner, as is Obama. I honestly think an Obama-Clinton combo with regard to campaigning could be just as powerful as FDR's fairly legendary electoral beatdowns.

whizbangthedirtfarmer		2012-04-23 12:10:44 PM

hubiestubert: ginandbacon: "A more effective strategy, Clinton has told anyone who would listen, would be to focus almost exclusively on Romney's description of himself as a "severe conservative," to deny him any chance to tack back to the center, according to three Democrats close to the situation."

Smart. Clinton's still got it.

It's how he got into office. He went to the middle and forced his opponents to swerve even harder right. It has had dire consequence, and that strategy has given us the political climate we're in today--but it may just break the back of the GOP in the long haul...

I wouldn't put it past Clinton to really go after the GOP in an effort to break it into smaller parts. Stupidity, and thus Republicans, will always exist, but I don't think Clinton will forgive the witch hunt he was put through.

Wendy's Chili		2012-04-23 12:10:54 PM

Zombie Roosevelt?

jaylectricity		2012-04-23 12:11:04 PM

Dwight.

D.

EISENHOWER.

sigdiamond2000		2012-04-23 12:11:05 PM

Dr.Zom		2012-04-23 12:12:17 PM

Bully-shiat. Obama should take some lessons from TR.

corporate mustache		2012-04-23 12:12:36 PM

odinsposse		2012-04-23 12:12:52 PM

Best in the 20th century? No. Best in the last half-century? Very likely. That isn't to say Clinton was awesome but we've had a lot of middling to shiatty presidents over the last 50 years.

Philip Francis Queeg		2012-04-23 12:12:55 PM

Visual proof!

Wendy's Chili		2012-04-23 12:14:13 PM

cman: Sorry, subs

Clinton was a good president, yes, but Teddy farking Roosevelt kicks everyones ass

/OMG a right-winger saying Clinton was a good president? THE HORROR

I'm more surprised to see a small government libertarian gushing about Teddy the trust-buster.

jehovahs witness protection		2012-04-23 12:15:39 PM

Reagan?

ignatius_crumbcake		2012-04-23 12:16:35 PM

Dr.Zom: Bully-shiat. Obama should take some lessons from TR.

Problem is that if Obama said "speak softly and carry a big stick," then the NRA and the right-wing would scream that he was being pro-stick and anti-gun.

QU!RK1019		2012-04-23 12:17:17 PM

trotsky		2012-04-23 12:17:34 PM

Wendy's Chili: cman: Sorry, subs

Clinton was a good president, yes, but Teddy farking Roosevelt kicks everyones ass

/OMG a right-winger saying Clinton was a good president? THE HORROR

I'm more surprised to see a small government libertarian gushing about Teddy the trust-buster.

LOL, yeah, so am I. TDR enacted government regulations on the precious free market so kids as young as 4 would not have to work, Teddy also wanted Universal Health Care and a healthy business sector not founded on monopolies. He also broke the GOP machine in Congress.

sweetmelissa31		2012-04-23 12:17:40 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Reagan?

Nixon you dolt.

SomethingWitty84		2012-04-23 12:18:19 PM

The Bestest		2012-04-23 12:18:33 PM

Both Roosevelts, Truman and Ike before Clinton.

That said, of course Bill is helping. He owes Obama big time for getting Hillary out of the house for 4 years.

Muta		2012-04-23 12:19:28 PM

NowhereMon: So are we going to rename Washington National Airport?

Renaming 'Reagan National Airport' to 'Obama National' would be nice. Obama's earned the honor.

Jackson Herring		2012-04-23 12:19:59 PM

President Fart?

Smoking GNU		2012-04-23 12:20:23 PM

ignatius_crumbcake		2012-04-23 12:20:26 PM

trotsky: LOL, yeah, so am I. TDR enacted government regulations on the precious free market so kids as young as 4 would not have to work, Teddy also wanted Universal Health Care and a healthy business sector not founded on monopolies. He also broke the GOP machine in Congress.

And:

"I hold that in this country there must be complete severance of Church and State; that public moneys shall not be used for the purpose of advancing any particular creed; and therefore that the public schools shall be non-sectarian and no public moneys appropriated for sectarian schools." - Theodore Roosevelt, Address, New York, October 12, 1915.

I guess TR would make Santorum sick too.

dramboxf		2012-04-23 12:22:41 PM

ignatius_crumbcake: I guess TR would make Santorum sick too.

Anyone that couldn't qualify as "American Taliban" makes Santorum sick.

Forgot_my_password_again		2012-04-23 12:22:56 PM

Bill and Barack. What fiscal conservatives might look like.

leviosaurus		2012-04-23 12:23:22 PM

The Bestest: Both Roosevelts, Truman and Ike before Clinton.

That said, of course Bill is helping. He owes Obama big time for getting Hillary out of the house for 4 years.

Add Kennedy to that list, just for his actions during the Cuban missile crisis if nothing else.

Clinton may be the best presidential campaigner of the 20th century, although even that is debatable.

JusticeandIndependence		2012-04-23 12:28:32 PM

SomethingWitty84: [i.imgur.com image 640x426]

That's awesome!

JusticeandIndependence		2012-04-23 12:29:49 PM

Muta: NowhereMon: So are we going to rename Washington National Airport?

Renaming 'Reagan National Airport' to 'Obama National' would be nice. Obama's earned the honor.

No he hasn't. Let's let a second term occur and some major milestone's happen first shall we?