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(CNBC)   I am shocked -- SHOCKED -- to learn that more than half of all the money given to Super PACs in this election cycle has come from just 46 people   (cnbc.com) divider line 44
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2012-04-23 11:53:45 AM
I thought the whole point of those Super PACs was so that Richie Riches could give their millions or whatever and be able to make it look like all that money came from many sources.

Sneakiness, they has none.
 
2012-04-23 12:03:03 PM
Will all this SuperPAC hate, why isnt there a concerted effort of amending the constitution giving the federal government greater control over election funding?
 
2012-04-23 12:10:34 PM

cman: Will all this SuperPAC hate, why isnt there a concerted effort of amending the constitution giving the federal government greater control over election funding?


Because the people who have the ability to amend the Constitution like money.
 
2012-04-23 12:11:18 PM

cman: Will all this SuperPAC hate, why isnt there a concerted effort of amending the constitution giving the federal government greater control over election funding?


You think the useful idiots of the Tea Party are going to support that? Get real. Fox News will carry the water for every billionaire out there that such an amendment is really all about Kenyan-style soshulism.
 
2012-04-23 12:50:56 PM

sweetmelissa31: cman: Will all this SuperPAC hate, why isnt there a concerted effort of amending the constitution giving the federal government greater control over election funding?

Because the people who have the ability to amend the Constitution like money.


Ding! Ding! Ding!
 
2012-04-23 12:51:05 PM
Why do you refuse to accept a corporate oligarchy, subby?
 
2012-04-23 12:52:46 PM

cman: Will all this SuperPAC hate, why isnt there a concerted effort of amending the constitution giving the federal government greater control over election funding?



So, you were absent from the Pelosi/1st Amendment thread a few day back?
 
2012-04-23 12:53:01 PM
Democrats don't like that wealthy Republicans and evil corporations are giving so much money to Republican groups.

They don't seem to realize that Unions and wealthy Democrats are also free to give money to Democratic groups.
 
2012-04-23 12:56:34 PM
Is subby implying that one-percenters might somehow have greater political influence than regular folk?

I don't think so.

/But then, I don't think about a lot of things... makes life easier.
 
2012-04-23 12:56:39 PM
What bothers me most about this, I think, isn't the existence of superPACs in general, or even that corporations can use their money for political purposes, but that there are ways for the donors to not be identified. Freedom of speech is very important, but it goes hand in hand (or should) with the responsibility of speech, that what you say may have consequences. If nothing else, it would seem counter to the spirit of being able to face one's accusers.

If a SuperPAC spreads libel or slander, are its donors held accountable? Can I just create a SuperPAC, anonymously donate my money to it, and then use it to say whatever I want without fear of personal backlash?
 
2012-04-23 12:58:34 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-04-23 01:01:11 PM
This merely proves that poor people don't value speech and should probably have that so called "right" removed if they're not going to use it.
 
2012-04-23 01:02:00 PM

vernonFL: Democrats don't like that wealthy Republicans and evil corporations are giving so much money to Republican groups.

They don't seem to realize that Unions and wealthy Democrats are also free to give money to Democratic groups.


Gee, maybe the Democrats aren't strictly thinking about what might help their party?
 
2012-04-23 01:02:42 PM

vernonFL: Democrats don't like that wealthy Republicans and evil corporations are giving so much money to Republican groups.

They don't seem to realize that Unions and wealthy Democrats are also free to give money to Democratic groups.



Morans don't seem to realize Democrats don't want evil corporation OR unions with more political speech than humans.
 
2012-04-23 01:08:43 PM
Money is speech now.

When the wealthy bribe candidates to undermine what little democracy we have left in this country, they are just expressing themselves. It's like when a cop pulls you over and you use your persuasive speech (bribe money) to convince him you weren't speeding, or when you express your opinion that your kid's sports team is superior by giving some speech to the officials.
 
2012-04-23 01:10:14 PM
But how else will the Public make it's wishes known to the politicians?

/original intent of pacs
//now sees it was all subterfuge
 
2012-04-23 01:11:43 PM
Citizens United may the worst SC ruling ever



/thanks for stifling any chance this country had to pull itself out of the shiatter, shiatheads
 
2012-04-23 01:13:14 PM
Some animals are more equal than others.
 
2012-04-23 01:13:19 PM
PACs were meant to be The People's Lobbyists since we didn't have the same clout and resources as corporations. We were allowed to form legal groups to pool resources so we could lobby for our needs.

Good plan. Working out well.
 
2012-04-23 01:13:49 PM

OneTimed: Citizens United may the worst SC ruling ever



/thanks for stifling any chance this country had to pull itself out of the shiatter, shiatheads


Let's not get carried away. It's no Dred Scott v. Sanford or even Plessy v. Ferguson.
 
2012-04-23 01:19:09 PM

vernonFL: Democrats don't like that wealthy Republicans and evil corporations are giving so much money to Republican groups.

They don't seem to realize that Unions and wealthy Democrats are also free to give money to Democratic groups.


Right. Because it's impossible to contend that either of these situations are sub-optimal.

It doesn't always have to be about scoring against the other team.
 
2012-04-23 01:21:25 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: OneTimed: Citizens United may the worst SC ruling ever



/thanks for stifling any chance this country had to pull itself out of the shiatter, shiatheads

Let's not get carried away. It's no Dred Scott v. Sanford or even Plessy v. Ferguson.


Worse than those. Also worse than Hitmaostalcheney. It will end life as we know it.

We live in the hyperboleest era in all of hyperboledom. There is nothing that isn't worse than the worst thing you can imagine at the time. Get with the times.
 
2012-04-23 01:23:26 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: OneTimed: Citizens United may the worst SC ruling ever



/thanks for stifling any chance this country had to pull itself out of the shiatter, shiatheads

Let's not get carried away. It's no Dred Scott v. Sanford or even Plessy v. Ferguson.


Bush v. Gore was pretty bad too... not so much because of how they ruled, but because they said that their ruling could not be used as precedence in future cases. That literally took common law back to before the Middle Ages.
 
2012-04-23 01:26:26 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Philip Francis Queeg: OneTimed: Citizens United may the worst SC ruling ever



/thanks for stifling any chance this country had to pull itself out of the shiatter, shiatheads

Let's not get carried away. It's no Dred Scott v. Sanford or even Plessy v. Ferguson.

Bush v. Gore was pretty bad too... not so much because of how they ruled, but because they said that their ruling could not be used as precedence in future cases. That literally took common law back to before the Middle Ages.


The "this can't be used as precedent" part was, to me, the biggest indicator that the Court (or at least the majority) knew what they were doing was wrong.
 
2012-04-23 01:27:29 PM
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thurstonxhowell: We live in the hyperboleest era in all of hyperboledom. There is nothing that isn't worse than the worst thing you can imagine at the time. Get with the times.


It's like we're living through the Holocaust of reasonable comparisons and analogies.
 
Bf+
2012-04-23 01:30:44 PM
renovomedia.com
Why isn't this guy on every news channel every day, getting asked "Do you regret mouthing off to the president now that your comments have been demonstrative proved wrong?"
 
2012-04-23 01:31:55 PM
www.kevinshurtleff.com
I would maybe be slightly shocked if this wasn't the 10th article about this fact posted on Fark alone.
 
2012-04-23 01:32:36 PM

imontheinternet: ...by giving some speech to the officials.


I don't know you, but I love you.
 
2012-04-23 01:32:52 PM

imontheinternet: \thurstonxhowell: We live in the hyperboleest era in all of hyperboledom. There is nothing that isn't worse than the worst thing you can imagine at the time. Get with the times.

It's like we're living through the Holocaust of reasonable comparisons and analogies.


I am literally being crucified on a cross made of outrage.
 
2012-04-23 01:34:19 PM
Not surprising considering 46 people have absorbed half of the wealth of this country and brought progress to a standstill.
 
2012-04-23 01:38:33 PM
SCOTUS says suck it libs!
 
2012-04-23 01:48:01 PM
Nice to know some people have more "Freedom" than others...
 
2012-04-23 01:54:34 PM

AcneVulgaris: imontheinternet: \thurstonxhowell: We live in the hyperboleest era in all of hyperboledom. There is nothing that isn't worse than the worst thing you can imagine at the time. Get with the times.

It's like we're living through the Holocaust of reasonable comparisons and analogies.

I am literally being crucified on a cross made of outrage.


Guys, really, this super-hyperbolisming has happened in every thread since the beginning of the Internet. Can we just move on for the teensiest tiniest second?
 
2012-04-23 01:57:41 PM
Democracy's dead.
The Supreme Court destroyed it.
Plutocracy reigns.
 
2012-04-23 02:04:46 PM

palelizard: AcneVulgaris: imontheinternet: \thurstonxhowell: We live in the hyperboleest era in all of hyperboledom. There is nothing that isn't worse than the worst thing you can imagine at the time. Get with the times.
It's like we're living through the Holocaust of reasonable comparisons and analogies.
I am literally being crucified on a cross made of outrage.
Guys, really, this super-hyperbolisming has happened in every thread since the beginning of the Internet. Can we just move on for the teensiest tiniest second?


These posts are so inflammatory and over-the-top that it's just like being raped.
 
2012-04-23 02:26:59 PM

Soup4Bonnie: imontheinternet: ...by giving some speech to the officials.

I don't know you, but I love you.


Don't say that. I'm a complicated, horrible person, and it can only end in heartache and restraining orders.
 
2012-04-23 02:34:18 PM

cman: Will all this SuperPAC hate, why isnt there a concerted effort of amending the constitution giving the federal government greater control over election funding?


Because amending the constitution is nearly impossible on anything remotely contraversal. I doubt a new constitutional amendment (of any sort) will be enacted during my lifetime.
 
2012-04-23 02:42:31 PM
And thus, the demise of democracy.
 
2012-04-23 02:53:27 PM

HotWingConspiracy: This merely proves that poor people don't value speech and should probably have that so called "right" removed if they're not going to use it.


A while back my teabagger uncle was arguing that college students and poor people shouldn't be allowed to vote because they don't value it as much as they should. He cited some study he heard about on Rush where some huge percentage of college students would give up their right to vote for one election in exchange for what amounts to a lot of money for a college student (over $1000 I think). He then went on to say that the study found similar results with the poor, but not the rich. So yeah, even though you're joking about it, there are people who actually think that way.

/This just in. Poor people are easier to bribe with smaller amounts of money than rich people. Details at 11.
 
2012-04-23 03:09:43 PM

don't understand: And thus, the demise of democracy.


Just the next stage. When the Bernays programming fails in the face of obscene attacks on freedom and prosperity you need to take the opinion control to the next level with billions of dollars to fully immerse everyone all the time in the propaganda model.
 
2012-04-23 03:40:33 PM
Forty-Six Job Creators
Please call them what they are.
 
2012-04-23 03:47:17 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: OneTimed: Citizens United may the worst SC ruling ever



/thanks for stifling any chance this country had to pull itself out of the shiatter, shiatheads

Let's not get carried away. It's no Dred Scott v. Sanford or even Plessy v. Ferguson.


And don't even get me started on the bloody Lannisters

what's funny is even w/this and the teaparty 'revolution', the GOP is still kinda getting its ass handed to it

/but really, fookin' Lannisters
//worse than the Dutch, they are
///at least the tall ones
 
2012-04-23 04:25:44 PM

Bf+: [renovomedia.com image 284x213]
Why isn't this guy on every news channel every day, getting asked "Do you regret mouthing off to the president now that your comments have been demonstrative proved wrong?"



So much THIS.


/Alito can eat a big bag of dicks.
 
2012-04-23 11:14:33 PM
Did Munchma Quchi make the list?

24.media.tumblr.com
 
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