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2012-04-23 03:30:36 PM
Wish our Illinois economy was as "bad" as Wisconsin's.
 
2012-04-23 03:30:48 PM

Fish in a Barrel: Wisconsin is actually nowhere near #1 in obesity. CDC


pssshhh. Come play in the south, Wisconsin. You may have cheese, but you wanna play in the arena where we'd deep fat fry fat, you better bring a lot more than a f*cking sausage.
 
2012-04-23 03:33:32 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Fish in a Barrel: Wisconsin is actually nowhere near #1 in obesity. CDC

pssshhh. Come play in the south, Wisconsin. You may have cheese, but you wanna play in the arena where we'd deep fat fry fat, you better bring a lot more than a f*cking sausage.


At least we can still see our sausage.

/rimshot
 
2012-04-23 03:34:01 PM

deeyablo: As a resident of Houston, I am getting a kick out of these obesity comments.


Don't pull a hammy, fatty. :-P
 
2012-04-23 03:34:57 PM

trotsky: You are a farking idiot. Not just an idiot, a farking idiot.


I see you've been talking to my wife.
 
2012-04-23 03:38:00 PM

CarnySaur: Fish in a Barrel: Wisconsin is actually nowhere near #1 in obesity. CDC

If it wasn't for the hipster stronghold of Madison, it would be.


Hey, with the way the suburban Milwaukee kids are doing H and the yokels are smoking meth, we'll be in the 12 in no time!
 
2012-04-23 03:38:14 PM

Poopspasm: deeyablo: As a resident of Houston, I am getting a kick out of these obesity comments.

Don't pull a hammy, fatty. :-P


Mmmmm... ham....
 
2012-04-23 03:38:22 PM

BigBooper: trotsky: You are a farking idiot. Not just an idiot, a farking idiot.

I see you've been talking to my wife.


Apparently your wife and I have something in common then.
 
2012-04-23 03:39:53 PM

Ken VeryBigLiar: CarnySaur: Fish in a Barrel: Wisconsin is actually nowhere near #1 in obesity. CDC

If it wasn't for the hipster stronghold of Madison, it would be.

Hey, with the way the suburban Milwaukee kids are doing H and the yokels are smoking meth, we'll be in the 12 in no time!


If meth were the ticket to a skinny populace, Missouri would look like California... with more scabs and fewer teeth.
 
2012-04-23 03:40:15 PM

Fish in a Barrel: Wisconsin is actually nowhere near #1 in obesity. CDC


You sound fat.

/I keed.
//Sorry, couldn't resist.
 
2012-04-23 03:40:38 PM
I think I am going to have to vote for walker in the recall election, though I didn't vote for him the first time around...
 
2012-04-23 03:42:39 PM

TIKIMAN87: You mean governors that fix fiscal problems. He is so awful..


as someone who lives here, I'd be curious what problems he fixed? the problem of schools having teachers? the poor having medical treatment? workers having job training? high speed rail between the 2 largest cities? women having rights? the problem of corporation not having enough tax breaks?

it wasn't the budget because that was fixed before he took office.
 
2012-04-23 03:44:49 PM

LarryDan43: I got myself a good paying job in Wisconsin last year, but I'm from Illinois so I hold a large advantage over the locals.


The Wisconsinites I personally know blame all of their problems on "those jerks from Illinois."

Traffic is "those jerks from Illinois don't know how to drive."

Bad service at a restaurant "waitress must be from Illinois."

The reason Kenosha sucks now "Illinois folk moved in."

So I suppose if you don't blame another state for every single problem, you definitely have a large advantage.
 
2012-04-23 03:47:06 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: Fish in a Barrel: Wisconsin is actually nowhere near #1 in obesity. CDC

You sound fat.

/I keed.
//Sorry, couldn't resist.


Given my diet, lifestyle and exercise habits, I likely would be if not for an unnaturally high metabolism. I've got to fix some of those habits before I hit 40 and blow up like a diabeetus-filled balloon.
 
Bf+
2012-04-23 03:49:32 PM

HotWingConspiracy: I thought the governor taking away the right of gay people to visit loved ones in the hospital would lead to thousands of jobs. What happened?


I know, right?
I swore his turn down the pre-allocated $810 million in federal money for train manufacturing would have been the shot in the arm Milwaukee was looking for.
 
2012-04-23 03:52:16 PM

Bf+: HotWingConspiracy: I thought the governor taking away the right of gay people to visit loved ones in the hospital would lead to thousands of jobs. What happened?

I know, right?
I swore his turn down the pre-allocated $810 million in federal money for train manufacturing would have been the shot in the arm Milwaukee was looking for.


What you gotta understand is that he didn't mean jobs, as in "jobs where people get paid to make stuff", he meant job, as in "I've got a job when I leave office, so long suckers".
 
2012-04-23 03:59:48 PM

qorkfiend: Bf+: HotWingConspiracy: I thought the governor taking away the right of gay people to visit loved ones in the hospital would lead to thousands of jobs. What happened?

I know, right?
I swore his turn down the pre-allocated $810 million in federal money for train manufacturing would have been the shot in the arm Milwaukee was looking for.

What you gotta understand is that he didn't mean jobs, as in "jobs where people get paid to make stuff", he meant job, as in "I've got a job when I leave office, so long suckers".


Now I may be a revisionist, but in my world Obama cancelled those funds before Walker even took office. If you have a picture of him ripping up the check, I'd love to see it.
 
2012-04-23 04:05:19 PM

Forgot_my_password_again: TIKIMAN87: You mean governors that fix fiscal problems. He is so awful..

as someone who lives here, I'd be curious what problems he fixed? the problem of schools having teachers? the poor having medical treatment? workers having job training? high speed rail between the 2 largest cities? women having rights? the problem of corporation not having enough tax breaks?


Unfortunately today's GOP does in-fact see all those things you mentioned as problems.
 
2012-04-23 04:14:49 PM

BigBooper: qorkfiend: Bf+: HotWingConspiracy: I thought the governor taking away the right of gay people to visit loved ones in the hospital would lead to thousands of jobs. What happened?

I know, right?
I swore his turn down the pre-allocated $810 million in federal money for train manufacturing would have been the shot in the arm Milwaukee was looking for.

What you gotta understand is that he didn't mean jobs, as in "jobs where people get paid to make stuff", he meant job, as in "I've got a job when I leave office, so long suckers".

Now I may be a revisionist, but in my world Obama cancelled those funds before Walker even took office. If you have a picture of him ripping up the check, I'd love to see it.


Man, it must suck to be wrong in your own fantasy world.
 
2012-04-23 04:19:08 PM

keylock71: Time to revive a great Colonial American tradition...

[i172.photobucket.com image 640x381]


Messin' with Sasqwatch?
 
2012-04-23 04:25:46 PM

BigBooper: qorkfiend: Bf+: HotWingConspiracy: I thought the governor taking away the right of gay people to visit loved ones in the hospital would lead to thousands of jobs. What happened?

I know, right?
I swore his turn down the pre-allocated $810 million in federal money for train manufacturing would have been the shot in the arm Milwaukee was looking for.

What you gotta understand is that he didn't mean jobs, as in "jobs where people get paid to make stuff", he meant job, as in "I've got a job when I leave office, so long suckers".

Now I may be a revisionist, but in my world Obama cancelled those funds before Walker even took office. If you have a picture of him ripping up the check, I'd love to see it.




I can understand all the confusion about trains in Wisconsin because Governor Walker has blotched more then one of those.

For starters -- the federal high-speed rail way (which Republicans have thoroughly denounced)((I'd love to see Eisenhower talk them into an Interstate now and days)) was blocked for funding by Governor Walker and State legislature.

The other issue -- was a state contract to repair and refit older trainings. Governor Walker cancelled the contract so Wisconsonites have older/shiattier trains and STILL have to pay out on the contract.

Wisconsin blows. Ha ha!
 
2012-04-23 04:36:02 PM

kungfu jesus with a side of lime: I think I am going to have to vote for walker in the recall election, though I didn't vote for him the first time around...


Why?
 
2012-04-23 04:39:07 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Forgot_my_password_again: TIKIMAN87: You mean governors that fix fiscal problems. He is so awful..

as someone who lives here, I'd be curious what problems he fixed? the problem of schools having teachers? the poor having medical treatment? workers having job training? high speed rail between the 2 largest cities? women having rights? the problem of corporation not having enough tax breaks?

Unfortunately today's GOP does in-fact see all those things you mentioned as problems.


Hopefully you will soon have a Democratic governor and he can raise your taxes a sufficient amount to cover all these items.
 
2012-04-23 04:48:54 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: For starters -- the federal high-speed rail way (which Republicans have thoroughly denounced)((I'd love to see Eisenhower talk them into an Interstate now and days)) was blocked for funding by Governor Walker and State legislature.


It was mostly blocked because about 10 people would have used it everyday and the station downtown in Milwaukee would have been a total cluster (not to mention that outside of the airport there are about 5 cabs in Milwaukee). It would be nice for a weekend but for everyday commuting? Not so much
 
2012-04-23 04:51:51 PM
Deer sausage and delicious cheese. I love you Wisconsin.

Your governor, not so much.
 
2012-04-23 04:59:45 PM

Ken VeryBigLiar: It was mostly blocked because about 10 people would have used it everyday and the station downtown in Milwaukee would have been a total cluster (not to mention that outside of the airport there are about 5 cabs in Milwaukee). It would be nice for a weekend but for everyday commuting? Not so much


So ... you've clearly never ridden the Hiawatha on a weekday.
 
2012-04-23 05:02:50 PM

Cat Food Sandwiches: Hopefully you will soon have a Democratic governor and he can raise your taxes a sufficient amount to cover all these items.


I have no problem paying additional taxes for those things.

But then again, I'm not a greedy douchebag republican who puts his wallet ahead of his community, state and nation.
 
2012-04-23 05:09:57 PM

snarfyboy: Ken VeryBigLiar: It was mostly blocked because about 10 people would have used it everyday and the station downtown in Milwaukee would have been a total cluster (not to mention that outside of the airport there are about 5 cabs in Milwaukee). It would be nice for a weekend but for everyday commuting? Not so much

So ... you've clearly never ridden the Hiawatha on a weekday.


So, you've met the Waukesha County "luxury SUV and an S-Class sedan in the driveway" crowd. The Hiwatha is totally different animal.
 
2012-04-23 05:28:01 PM

Ken VeryBigLiar: So, you've met the Waukesha County "luxury SUV and an S-Class sedan in the driveway" crowd. The Hiwatha is totally different animal.


I fail to see Waukesha's fear of public transit is an indicator of the use of high speed rail for the rest of the people on the corridor. The fact remains that the Hiawatha is a highly used train and one of the few profitable routes that Amtrak still operates. Far more then 10 people would use a high speed train to Chicago, Waukesha notwithstanding. The extension to Madison is debatable, but the Hiawatha is certainly a well used train.

And this doesn't even touch the fact that the high speed rail would have been used for freight as well. Bringing freight through the state would have brought factories and distribution hubs on the corridor. Now those rails are going around Wisconsin instead, so places like the Quad cities are likely to see some new jobs.
 
2012-04-23 05:37:59 PM

TIKIMAN87: MaudlinMutantMollusk: They're still number 1 in dickweed governors, though

You mean governors that fix fiscal problems. He is so awful..


Minnesota has an even larger surplus and didn't have to have to take revenge on unions to do it.

Your argument is invalid.
 
2012-04-23 05:46:42 PM

snarfyboy: Ken VeryBigLiar: So, you've met the Waukesha County "luxury SUV and an S-Class sedan in the driveway" crowd. The Hiwatha is totally different animal.

I fail to see Waukesha's fear of public transit is an indicator of the use of high speed rail for the rest of the people on the corridor. The fact remains that the Hiawatha is a highly used train and one of the few profitable routes that Amtrak still operates. Far more then 10 people would use a high speed train to Chicago, Waukesha notwithstanding. The extension to Madison is debatable, but the Hiawatha is certainly a well used train.

And this doesn't even touch the fact that the high speed rail would have been used for freight as well. Bringing freight through the state would have brought factories and distribution hubs on the corridor. Now those rails are going around Wisconsin instead, so places like the Quad cities are likely to see some new jobs.


The idea behind the Madison extension was that from there, it would eventually be extended out to Minnesota. That would create a whole new corridor from Chicago to Minneapolis. Which does make sense.

Of course, now that route will just be run through our southern neighbors, taking away jobs that were looking to exploit the railroad.

/Only legitimate criticism I heard was why Madison and not the Fox Valley. Not that I care either way
 
2012-04-23 05:47:36 PM

derpdeederp: Arkanaut

TIKIMAN87: MaudlinMutantMollusk: They're still number 1 in dickweed governors, though

You mean governors that fix fiscal problems. He is so awful..

Because the goal of government should be to balance the budget.

Umm, yes. At least have a balanced budget so our civilization doesnt collapse.

/did I just get trolled?


I would contend that balancing a budget is not the reason government exists.

/you didn't get trolled
//it was more of a "WHOOSH" sound
 
2012-04-23 05:53:14 PM

TheBlackrose: The idea behind the Madison extension was that from there, it would eventually be extended out to Minnesota. That would create a whole new corridor from Chicago to Minneapolis. Which does make sense.


Agreed. I was only talking about how useful a Milwaukee - Madison high speed rail would be for passenger traffic. In the long run, high speed rail from Minneapolis - Chicago would probably fare pretty well.

Especially if it stopped in the Dells. That place is 90% Chicago already.
 
MFL
2012-04-23 05:58:07 PM
Forgot_my_password_again
But then again, I'm not a greedy douchebag republican who puts his wallet ahead of his community, state and nation.

No you're just a naive little democrat who has been fooled to think they are being patriotic by letting the politicians treat tax dollars like a gambling addict at Ceasars Palace with unlimited cash.

You are what we call an enabler.
 
2012-04-23 05:58:31 PM

Mrtraveler01: TIKIMAN87: MaudlinMutantMollusk: They're still number 1 in dickweed governors, though

You mean governors that fix fiscal problems. He is so awful..

Minnesota has an even larger surplus and didn't have to have to take revenge on unions to do it.

Your argument is invalid.


1. I live in MN and there is no surplus.

2. There was no revenge on unions. It's the fact that public union workers take tax payer money for their own wages and huge benefits. Public unions are a plague on the economy.
 
2012-04-23 05:59:50 PM

kungfu jesus with a side of lime: I think I am going to have to vote for walker in the recall election, though I didn't vote for him the first time around...


U B Trolling.
 
2012-04-23 06:01:00 PM

HotWingConspiracy: I thought the governor taking away the right of gay people to visit loved ones in the hospital would lead to thousands of jobs. What happened?


The gay unions stepped in, they're against right to work laws. Walker's currently working on making sure the gays lose their collective bargaining, thus creating new opportunities for people to work in the gay field.
 
2012-04-23 06:06:56 PM

snarfyboy: I fail to see Waukesha's fear of public transit is an indicator of the use of high speed rail for the rest of the people on the corridor. The fact remains that the Hiawatha is a highly used train and one of the few profitable routes that Amtrak still operates. Far more then 10 people would use a high speed train to Chicago, Waukesha notwithstanding. The extension to Madison is debatable, but the Hiawatha is certainly a well used train.

And this doesn't even touch the fact that the high speed rail would have been used for freight as well. Bringing freight through the state would have brought factories and distribution hubs on the corridor. Now those rails are going around Wisconsin instead, so places like the Quad cities are likely to see some new jobs.


I agree with the Chicago part of the line being useful and profitable; if only for the increased traffic and tolls. The Milwaukee to Madison end was also to be just a bigger part of the whole picture but when we're stagnant for jobs and 94 east of Jefferson County to the Illinois state line is at a point where only an eastern European could take pride in it, the train becomes a secondary concern. Would it be nice someday when we're not deluding ourselves into thinking we're some blue-collar manufacturing state as the Republicans would have us believe? Sure, but in 2010 (and now) was a bad time to be thinking that far out when there were bigger and badder concerns on our plates.

/As for a stop in the Dells, it would get used by the imported workers but the FIB's won't walk ten feet further than they have to there.
//Former yokel from up that way
 
MFL
2012-04-23 06:14:34 PM
TIKIMAN87
1. I live in MN and there is no surplus.

2. There was no revenge on unions. It's the fact that public union workers take tax payer money for their own wages and huge benefits. Public unions are a plague on the economy.


I resent that.

I live in Illinois and we are proudly pro-public union and I dare you to find a more ethical and efficiently run state.
 
2012-04-23 06:17:54 PM

TIKIMAN87: Mrtraveler01: TIKIMAN87: MaudlinMutantMollusk: They're still number 1 in dickweed governors, though

You mean governors that fix fiscal problems. He is so awful..

Minnesota has an even larger surplus and didn't have to have to take revenge on unions to do it.

Your argument is invalid.

1. I live in MN and there is no surplus.

2. There was no revenge on unions. It's the fact that public union workers take tax payer money for their own wages and huge benefits. Public unions are a plague on the economy.


Your're right, it is a disgrace that PUBLIC workers are paid with PUBLICLY raised funds such as taxes. Those assholes whould work for free.
 
2012-04-23 06:22:28 PM

JerseyTim: But, #1 in giant spiders.


Did you know Bill Rebane twice ran for governor of Wisconsin as a Reform Party candidate? Hell, he'd probably have been better at it than Gov. Wonk-eye McMouthbreather.
 
2012-04-23 06:25:50 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: Governor Walker makes me ashamed and I don't even live in Wisconsin. In Indiana we had the exact same issue come up (and our Democrats left the State as well). The difference was that we ALL called bullshiat here so the Republican Governor took it off the table.


I remember that. My righteous cousin and I debated as to which Gov. handled the same problem better. I said the Indiana Gov. for listening to his constituents. He (my cousin) thought Walker was sticking to his principles like a martyr or something. Finally he said, "We'll see how this plays out in the long run." The lame old "GWBush History Will Judge Me" argument. The argument is basically a surrender without giving in to any of the discussion points.
/spoiler alert: I win. (or do I have to wait for the recall?)
 
2012-04-23 06:27:47 PM
 
2012-04-23 06:36:15 PM

TIKIMAN87: public union workers take tax payer money for their own wages and huge benefits.


Public workers do this regardless if they're in a Union or not.

Do you really not know what a public worker is? Or what the "Public" in public worker means?

Either way your argument looks silly.
 
2012-04-23 06:47:19 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: GhostFish: SkittlesAreYum: How did Wisconsin get the rap of being full of fat people? It's ranked the #25 state in obesity rate, which is, obviously, in the middle of the pack.

Source

Maybe it's the cheese.


That is the old cheese castle. The new Mars Cheese Castle looks like a castle. I live about 20 minutes from it...

I sound like/am a fat Wisconsinite.
 
2012-04-23 06:57:03 PM
BigBooper
Now I may be a revisionist, but in my world Obama cancelled those funds before Walker even took office. If you have a picture of him ripping up the check, I'd love to see it.

i689.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-23 06:57:04 PM

CarnySaur: Fish in a Barrel: Wisconsin is actually nowhere near #1 in obesity. CDC

If it wasn't for the hipster stronghold of Madison, it would be.


Piffle.

cdn2-b.examiner.com
Burger-topped Ian's pizza.

www.madisondining.com
Poutine at Cooper's Tavern.


Scrambler at Mickey's Dairy Bar.
(file is too large because the Scrambler is just that big)
 
2012-04-23 07:08:32 PM

BigBooper: Now I may be a revisionist, but in my world Obama cancelled those funds before Walker even took office. If you have a picture of him ripping up the check, I'd love to see it.


They were cancelled about 3 months after Walker's election and repeated attempts by Ray LaHood to get the project back online. It might not have been a masterstroke of an idea, but the plan was doomed with Walker's election.
 
2012-04-23 07:18:20 PM
TIKIMAN87-

1. I live in MN and there is no surplus.-

2. There was no revenge on unions. It's the fact that public union workers take tax payer money for their own wages and huge benefits. Public unions are a plague on the economy.



Sorry both of these are lies- MN now has a surplus, the last two economic forecasts have improved and we have a large enough surplus to begin paying back the funds the state borrowed from schools.

There are no huge union issues in MN. True everyone hates the teachers union president but there is still a party called Democratic Farm and Labor- and it is still a fairly popular party in MN.

Your two overt statements are both untrue but your implication that you are an a$$ hat troll is very true. Keep up the incendiary and false rhetoric, if you keep working you will one day reach the level of average troll.
 
2012-04-23 07:23:26 PM
Tikitroll-

Sorry I shouldn't take the bait but... just so you know- the original post is about WI and Scott Walker- please remember that Scott Walker is a lifer as a public employee. He ran for his first office at 22. He has been a public employee pretty much ever since. He does get really good benefits and is paid on tax payer money. I believe He has been doing the whole public service thing for about 19 years.

and I love adding this part "just saying"
 
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