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2012-04-23 12:32:12 PM
Goddammitsomuch... Antivaxxers give me the urge to strangle much like how biblethumpers do.
 
2012-04-23 12:33:45 PM
All the anti-vaxxers can fly American. Then they can spread measles and other highly contagious diseases among themselves while everyone else flies other airlines safely.

Seems like a self correcting problem.
 
2012-04-23 12:34:43 PM
What the actual fark?
 
2012-04-23 12:36:53 PM
Bu-bu-but Dr. Jenny McCarthy says shes right! And she has huge 'merican tits so she must be right!

Autism! Mercury! Derp!
 
2012-04-23 12:41:22 PM

MadCat221: Antivaxxers give me the urge to strangle much. like, how biblethumpers do.


Boobiess: now with added punctuation!
 
2012-04-23 12:42:09 PM
Is that anything like the Apple iFlu?
 
2012-04-23 12:43:05 PM
FTFA:
In May 2011, an unvaccinated infant was brought on board American Airlines flight 3965. Measles is a highly contagious, dangerous, and potentially fatal disease, and because of this public health emergency officials had to track down 100 passengers and quarantine quite a few of them.

So was the baby infant diagnosed with Measles? Why did they have to track down 100 passengers... Was it for a post-flight survey about the dining options?

Awesome reporting there, lou.
 
2012-04-23 12:43:41 PM

Kentucky Fried Children: Bu-bu-but Dr. Jenny McCarthy says shes right! And she has huge 'merican tits so she must be right!

Autism! Mercury! Derp!


One has to admit, tits rarely ever lose an argument.
 
GCD
2012-04-23 12:43:41 PM
So why on Earth would American Airlines choose to run an interview with her in their in-flight magazine and air that interview on the in-flight TVs?

Perhaps they don't suffer from close-minds and figure that the people who will watch/read this interview are mature enough to make their own informed decisions?

Just a thought.

/Still doesn't change the fact that airplanes are nothing more than flying petri dishes
 
2012-04-23 12:47:37 PM
I currently work at an airport. I guess in the end I should be immune to just about everything. That is if I don't get some strange disease and die.

Airports have always been an advertising place for crackpots. How many watch tower mags do I end up tossing every day? The most amusing is the contrails crap... being spread at the airport.
 
2012-04-23 12:47:43 PM
Antivaxxers vs Birthers.

Who should be flayed alive first, and why? Discuss.
 
2012-04-23 12:49:26 PM

GCD: So why on Earth would American Airlines choose to run an interview with her in their in-flight magazine and air that interview on the in-flight TVs?

Perhaps they don't suffer from close-minds and figure that the people who will watch/read this interview are mature enough to make their own informed decisions?

Just a thought.


Deliberately presenting false information except as an explicit example of false information is never justifiable.
 
2012-04-23 12:51:13 PM

joonyer: Antivaxxers vs Birthers.

Who should be flayed alive first, and why? Discuss.


Don't you shoot them in the order they arrive for the anti-fluoride meetings?
 
2012-04-23 12:51:21 PM
A friend of mine has a young daughter who contracted measles because one of the other children at her day care center had parents who refused to vaccinate him. She was too young to have even received the vaccine yet. It's usually given at 13 months, and she was a week or two away from turning 1 year old.

She pulled through but was miserable, and now is at risk for a, albeit rare, ongoing viral infection of the brain that would present itself when she's 7-10 years old. All because some jackass parents didn't vaccinate their child.

AA deserves a boycott, and I hope that's what they get.
 
2012-04-23 12:56:47 PM
 
2012-04-23 12:57:00 PM
In my day we didn't call them "antivaxxers", we called them moonbats or farking dumbasses or both.
 
2012-04-23 01:00:34 PM
I'm protected, my family is protected. The rest of everyone else can bleed out through their eyes for all I care.
 
GCD
2012-04-23 01:01:58 PM

Dimensio: Deliberately presenting false information except as an explicit example of false information is never justifiable.


Deliberately presenting false information to people happens ALL. THE. TIME..

It's not like they are presenting this as part of their pre-flight spiel; "Thank you for choosing American Airlines, please buckle up and stop vaccinating your children. Have a great flight!"

They are putting it in their in-flight magazine and their in-flight video selection where people can CHOOSE to read/watch it.

Many airlines have a wide array of videos/documentaries/comedy specials (HBO)/questionable material as part of their in-flight programs. I don't see any outrage over that.

Personally, I think antivaxxers are all bat-shiat crazy...but I would definitely read/watch a program on it, if only for the train wreck value of it.
 
2012-04-23 01:04:36 PM

sharkbeagle: I'm protected, my family is protected. The rest of everyone else can bleed out through their eyes for all I care.


Three words: health insurance pool.
 
2012-04-23 01:04:55 PM

hdhale: In my day we didn't call them "antivaxxers", we called them moonbats or farking dumbasses or both.


And we clubbed them to death with the onions on our belts, for that was the style at the time.
 
2012-04-23 01:05:12 PM

GCD: Deliberately presenting false information to people happens ALL. THE. TIME..


Not life-threateningly dangerous false information.

Can't say I've seen too many promotional videos in favor or not wearing your seat belt in in a car, or of chewing on rusty nails.
 
2012-04-23 01:05:28 PM

GCD: They are putting it in their in-flight magazine and their in-flight video selection where people can CHOOSE to read/watch it.


And, as the blogger points out, I can CHOOSE not to patronize their airline as a result.
 
2012-04-23 01:05:54 PM

GCD: Perhaps they don't suffer from close-minds and figure that the people who will watch/read this interview are mature enough to make their own informed decisions?


Anybody who's open-minded about his issue is a moron who needs to be protected from the virus of false information. Should American Airlines put on Holocaust deniers too? Moon landing deniers? Flat-earthers? How dumb is too dumb? Are we letting the free market determine truth no matter how scientifically false?
 
2012-04-23 01:11:48 PM
I'm in. I don't fly AA anyway.

/if Southwest or JetBlue don't fly there, it's not worth visiting
 
GCD
2012-04-23 01:16:29 PM

Queensowntalia: Not life-threateningly dangerous false information.


Seriously? I beg to differ.

blazemongr: And, as the blogger points out, I can CHOOSE not to patronize their airline as a result.


That's your choice...and if that's the way that YOU feel about the issue, then I respect and applaud you for standing by it.

Nem Wan: Anybody who's open-minded about his issue is a moron who needs to be protected from the virus of false information. Should American Airlines put on Holocaust deniers too? Moon landing deniers? Flat-earthers? How dumb is too dumb? Are we letting the free market determine truth no matter how scientifically false?


Just because I choose to read/watch a documentary about the Holocaust being a hoax or the Moon landing being faked or people who believe the Earth is flat or that is still alive doesn't mean that I support or believe it.

What it does mean though is that I am willing enough to listen to another opinion regarding the matter without having it swaying my own personal opinions and beliefs.
 
2012-04-23 01:19:30 PM
Next: how Xenu put thetans in your body, and teaching the controversy about gravity - fundamental force or "intelligent falling"? We report! You decide!
 
2012-04-23 01:24:33 PM

GCD: Queensowntalia: Not life-threateningly dangerous false information.

Seriously? I beg to differ.

blazemongr: And, as the blogger points out, I can CHOOSE not to patronize their airline as a result.

That's your choice...and if that's the way that YOU feel about the issue, then I respect and applaud you for standing by it.

Nem Wan: Anybody who's open-minded about his issue is a moron who needs to be protected from the virus of false information. Should American Airlines put on Holocaust deniers too? Moon landing deniers? Flat-earthers? How dumb is too dumb? Are we letting the free market determine truth no matter how scientifically false?

Just because I choose to read/watch a documentary about the Holocaust being a hoax or the Moon landing being faked or people who believe the Earth is flat or that is still alive doesn't mean that I support or believe it.

What it does mean though is that I am willing enough to listen to another opinion regarding the matter without having it swaying my own personal opinions and beliefs.


You say, "Open-minded."

I say, "A waste of time."
 
2012-04-23 01:25:23 PM

sharkbeagle: I'm protected, my family is protected. The rest of everyone else can bleed out through their eyes for all I care.


You're not 100% protected, which is why everyone needs to be protected. Your 99.99999% protected against causal infection if everyone else is too. Your 95% protected if a family member ends up infected. Your 33% protected if 10% of your local community is infected because they didn't get the shot. And remember these things use the unprotected to find ways into the protected.
 
2012-04-23 01:25:53 PM

MindStalker: Kentucky Fried Children: Bu-bu-but Dr. Jenny McCarthy says shes right! And she has huge 'merican tits so she must be right!

Autism! Mercury! Derp!

One has to admit, tits rarely ever lose an argument.


Truer words have never been spoken - the scientific community just needs to find a hot 36DD spokesperson to counter Ms. McCarthy and this issue will die off in short order
 
2012-04-23 01:28:16 PM

GCD: Queensowntalia: Not life-threateningly dangerous false information.

Seriously? I beg to differ.

blazemongr: And, as the blogger points out, I can CHOOSE not to patronize their airline as a result.

That's your choice...and if that's the way that YOU feel about the issue, then I respect and applaud you for standing by it.

Nem Wan: Anybody who's open-minded about his issue is a moron who needs to be protected from the virus of false information. Should American Airlines put on Holocaust deniers too? Moon landing deniers? Flat-earthers? How dumb is too dumb? Are we letting the free market determine truth no matter how scientifically false?

Just because I choose to read/watch a documentary about the Holocaust being a hoax or the Moon landing being faked or people who believe the Earth is flat or that is still alive doesn't mean that I support or believe it.

What it does mean though is that I am willing enough to listen to another opinion regarding the matter without having it swaying my own personal opinions and beliefs.


Then you are the fool for allowing them to waste your time with things you know to be false.

Not all opinions are valid. I can give 30 minutes on why Napoleon Bonaparte was in fact the brilliant character we now know today as Judith Dench, but not giving me time on air or your personal time to say so isn't being closed minded or rude in the slightest.
 
GCD
2012-04-23 01:33:00 PM

aedude01: You say, "Open-minded."

I say, "A waste of time."


You say tomato, I say tomahto.

It might be a waste of time, but if I am confined to an aluminum tube, flying across the country and really don't feel like watching the plethora of craptacular movies most airlines have, then I may choose to watching something that has a complete 180° opinion of my own.

Even though I don't believe any of what they're saying, at least it gives me a clearer picture of how those morans think.
 
2012-04-23 01:34:02 PM
I received vaccines when I was child and I'm artistic.
 
2012-04-23 01:34:59 PM

GizmoToy: A friend of mine has a young daughter who contracted measles because one of the other children at her day care center had parents who refused to vaccinate him. She was too young to have even received the vaccine yet. It's usually given at 13 months, and she was a week or two away from turning 1 year old.

She pulled through but was miserable, and now is at risk for a, albeit rare, ongoing viral infection of the brain that would present itself when she's 7-10 years old. All because some jackass parents didn't vaccinate their child.

AA deserves a boycott, and I hope that's what they get.


To be fair, your friend brought her child to a daycare center that obviously doesn't care much about vaccination records in the first place.
 
2012-04-23 01:40:59 PM

Geriatric Goodman Brown: joonyer: Antivaxxers vs Birthers.

Who should be flayed alive first, and why? Discuss.

Don't you shoot them in the order they arrive for the anti-fluoride meetings?


No, that's a waste of perfectly good ammo. Besides, the anti-flouride crowd has decayed, they had a falling out. Lots of gnashing and biting.
 
2012-04-23 01:44:16 PM

GCD: What it does mean though is that I am willing enough to listen to another opinion regarding the matter without having it swaying my own personal opinions and beliefs.


Maybe you can. However, the whole anti-vaccination movement shows that there are a whole lot of people out there who in fact ARE swayed by this crap, and that in turn puts all the rest of us in danger.

As I've said before, if it was simply the kids of the anti-vac nutjobs who were at risk, I wouldn't care. But those people put everyone else at risk too, and AA, but running this, is helping propagate the bullshiat, and is thus also partially responsible for putting people at risk.
 
2012-04-23 01:47:17 PM

GCD: Dimensio: Deliberately presenting false information except as an explicit example of false information is never justifiable.

Deliberately presenting false information to people happens ALL. THE. TIME..


The presentation remains unjustifiable ALL. THE. TIME..


It's not like they are presenting this as part of their pre-flight spiel; "Thank you for choosing American Airlines, please buckle up and stop vaccinating your children. Have a great flight!"

They are putting it in their in-flight magazine and their in-flight video selection where people can CHOOSE to read/watch it.


Such placement does not justify this presentation of dishonest information.
 
2012-04-23 01:49:32 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: GizmoToy: A friend of mine has a young daughter who contracted measles because one of the other children at her day care center had parents who refused to vaccinate him. She was too young to have even received the vaccine yet. It's usually given at 13 months, and she was a week or two away from turning 1 year old.

She pulled through but was miserable, and now is at risk for a, albeit rare, ongoing viral infection of the brain that would present itself when she's 7-10 years old. All because some jackass parents didn't vaccinate their child.

AA deserves a boycott, and I hope that's what they get.

To be fair, your friend brought her child to a daycare center that obviously doesn't care much about vaccination records in the first place.


I thought by law your couldn't deny care for un-vaccinated children due to religious reasons. Public schools sure don't seems to care.
 
2012-04-23 01:50:33 PM

GizmoToy: A friend of mine has a young daughter who contracted measles because one of the other children at her day care center had parents who refused to vaccinate him. She was too young to have even received the vaccine yet. It's usually given at 13 months, and she was a week or two away from turning 1 year old.


I agree with The My Little Pony Killer. I wouldn't let my 1 year-old stay at a day care center if that center allowed older children without vaccinations to attend.
 
2012-04-23 01:59:31 PM
GCD
Perhaps they don't suffer from close-minds and figure that the people who will watch/read this interview are mature enough to make their own informed decisions?

Showing blatantly false information that is also a public health risk is not "being open-minded". I can't wait for the in-flight show about how smoking is really awesome for your health.
 
2012-04-23 02:02:32 PM
It's a shame that antivaxxers are a public health problem and not a nice self-correcting Darwinistic endeavor.
 
GCD
2012-04-23 02:03:48 PM

Dimensio: The presentation remains unjustifiable ALL. THE. TIME.


Still happens all the time.

Watch any late night TV and you will see an infomercial that is hawking pills/creams/liquids/solids/gases that will do all sorts of magical things for your hair/weight/penis/breasts/vagina/etc.

Would you or I ever buy them? Probably not.

No FDA approval exists for these products...and there have been studies that have shown that some of the ingredients found in them can cause all sorts of problems for people.

But, despite that, you'll find people who absolutely SWEAR they cannot live their lives without the product.

Kind of how you'll find people that claim that the Holocaust is a hoax, despite there being evidence that overwhelmingly paints those people as complete crackpots.
 
2012-04-23 02:03:54 PM
I'm not against vaccines, I believe statistically they do more good than harm.

But, when my son got his vaccines, within hours his ears turned red, he had a high fever. Within a year he stopped talking, became upset constantly and was diagnosed with autism.

15 years later we are still dealing with the worry, expense and 24x7 challenges that I wouldn't wish on anyone.

Even a one a a million side effect can be no fun if you're the one.
 
2012-04-23 02:09:50 PM
American Airlines, as far as I can find, has no intention of doing such a thing. This blogger is just out of his freaking mind.

/ignore bloggers, regardless of who they are writing for. Most of them are whacked.
 
2012-04-23 02:25:52 PM

georgehwbush: I'm not against vaccines, I believe statistically they do more good than harm.

But, when my son got his vaccines, within hours his ears turned red, he had a high fever. Within a year he stopped talking, became upset constantly and was diagnosed with autism.

15 years later we are still dealing with the worry, expense and 24x7 challenges that I wouldn't wish on anyone.

Even a one a a million side effect can be no fun if you're the one.


That's true. It sucks to be the one. Don't know if it helps, but if not for vaccines, the odds that your son would be dead from some disease would be much higher than a million to one.
 
2012-04-23 02:28:27 PM

GCD: Dimensio: Deliberately presenting false information except as an explicit example of false information is never justifiable.

Deliberately presenting false information to people happens ALL. THE. TIME..

It's not like they are presenting this as part of their pre-flight spiel; "Thank you for choosing American Airlines, please buckle up and stop vaccinating your children. Have a great flight!"

They are putting it in their in-flight magazine and their in-flight video selection where people can CHOOSE to read/watch it.

Many airlines have a wide array of videos/documentaries/comedy specials (HBO)/questionable material as part of their in-flight programs. I don't see any outrage over that.

Personally, I think antivaxxers are all bat-shiat crazy...but I would definitely read/watch a program on it, if only for the train wreck value of it.


I saw this video on a recent flight. It seemed pretty convincing to me. I'm not going to vaccinate my kids and I'm going to encourage all my friends and relatives not to vaccinate their kids. I mean, why would they show this if there wasn't SOME merit?
 
2012-04-23 02:28:34 PM

GCD: No FDA approval exists for these products...and there have been studies that have shown that some of the ingredients found in them can cause all sorts of problems for people.

But, despite that, you'll find people who absolutely SWEAR they cannot live their lives without the product.


Hardly the same. If some idiot purchases those products and uses them, and in turn has an allergic reaction or something, the only person they're putting at risk is themselves.

People who don't get vaccinated though, put everybody else at risk. Especially the very young and very old.

And the other difference is that with products bought from late-night infomercials, there is a person or company to sue if somebody does get sick, so there is self-correction. That's not true with the anti-vaccination BS. Otherwise Jenny McCarthy would be broke.
 
2012-04-23 02:34:33 PM

Geriatric Goodman Brown: All the anti-vaxxers can fly American. Then they can spread measles and other highly contagious diseases among themselves while everyone else flies other airlines safely.

Seems like a self correcting problem.


Can the Scientologists all go on Xenu airlines, which only uses 707s that fly straight into active volcanoes followed by some hydrogen bombs?
 
2012-04-23 02:35:03 PM

georgehwbush: I'm not against vaccines, I believe statistically they do more good than harm.

But, when my son got his vaccines, within hours his ears turned red, he had a high fever. Within a year he stopped talking, became upset constantly and was diagnosed with autism.

15 years later we are still dealing with the worry, expense and 24x7 challenges that I wouldn't wish on anyone.

Even a one a a million side effect can be no fun if you're the one.


Well, I thought you were a moron, and then I read your username. Now I just think you're a troll.
 
2012-04-23 02:37:01 PM

georgehwbush: I'm not against vaccines, I believe statistically they do more good than harm.

But, when my son got his vaccines, within hours his ears turned red, he had a high fever. Within a year he stopped talking, became upset constantly and was diagnosed with autism.

15 years later we are still dealing with the worry, expense and 24x7 challenges that I wouldn't wish on anyone.

Even a one a a million side effect can be no fun if you're the one.


When I was in a dusty room, within hours my eyes were itchy, and I had a runny nose. Within a year, I was happily married.

Now I recommend dusty rooms to everyone! I mean, it's not like two events occurring in the same year could possibly be unrelated.
 
2012-04-23 02:37:48 PM
I still say all antivaxers should be quarantined and sent to live in a fenced off area in an Arizona desert.
 
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