I know i've said this a million times (me repeat myself? what?) but I like when Trent Dilfer is breaking down a play and he's like, "OK, here, the play is obviously Omaha Trips X-Ray Red 94 Slot Cowboy Bravo Option B Gap Slam, but the QB throws to the 4th option without even looking off the Sam. YOU CANNOT MAKE THAT MISTAKE IF YOU EXPECT TO WIN IN THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE!"


yeah trent, because every team in the NFL uses the exact same call/play string terminology.

BillCo: Why the hatin' on the Broncos?

When your team consistently keeps itself in the headlines, expect some hate.


/didn't see any hate?

BillCo: Why the hatin' on the Broncos?

That's just rtp's name for 'em.

/way to comment on your own link, ricky. *shakes head*

SDRR: Or how about, yeah Trent because you were such an awesome QB when you played... he sucked. He was lucky to get a SB ring with the Ravens because of their defense, I believe they released or traded him and he played somewhere else the very next season.

Number of championships the Ravens have won since, despite having a great defense in all those other years, too: 0. Maybe they shoulda kept him around.

BTW, most of the most knowledgeable people about any sport weren't the best players in their day.

SearchN: Yanks_RSJ: Killer Cars: So what's the over/under on amount of players this year leaving behind their team-provided iPads in coffee shops?

The Saints will probably just hack into them anyway.

Man, they just keep getting dirtier.

Its total BS, and many opposing coaches/owners don't believe it.

Even if you did listen in, you'd have to understand every team's lexicon (you know, the "Omaha Trips X-Ray Red 94 Slot Cowboy Bravo Option B Gap Slam" lexicon mentioned above), and be able to relay that to your coach in a few seconds.

IAmRight: BTW, most of the most knowledgeable people about any sport weren't the best players in their day.

Exactly. And the best players often make terrible commentators (Dan Marino, I'm looking at you.)

Slow To Return: That's worse than Bounty Gate. Too bad it (allegedly) happened almost a decade ago and (allegedly) stopped in 2004. The Saints being asked to forfeit games in 2002-2004 would probably improve their records from that era, not worsen them.

Games they allegedly might have, possibly, if allegations are true and Loomis also relayed the information to the coaching staff, which apparently didn't happen, cheated: 12-12 (at home)

Games they weren't able to cheat on in the same timespan: 13-11.

That's some fine cheatin' there, Lou, taking one of the best homefield advantages in the NFL and coming up with a worse home record than your away record.

downstairs: Exactly. And the best players often make terrible commentators (Dan Marino, I'm looking at you.)

I'm thinking of Michael Jordan's fine record as Charlotte Bobcats executive.

Slow To Return: If anything, it gives credence to the Patriot fans' arguement that "the information doesn't help". SInce the Saints were like 7-9, 8-8 and 3-13 during the years in question.

3-13 was after Katrina and would've been the year they stopped.

But the 3-13 might have been more likely due to HAVING TO PLAY EVERY SINGLE GAME ON THE ROAD and you know, having your entire life thrown into upheaval and stuff like that. Article writers keep casually mentioning it as they're talking about how "that's the year they couldn't cheat anymore, and they dropped off big time!"

bulldg4life: You don't think they talk about or plan what might happen later in the game? And/OR you think the coaches ONLY talk in team lexicon during the entire game?

The relevant stuff- the plays- are in team lexicon. No one cares to hear the coaches motivating players in plain english.

Yes, coaches are always out there yelling "get your butt moving" and "hell of a play there." But that's not relevant here.

SDRR: rickythepenguin: I know i've said this a million times (me repeat myself? what?) but I like when Trent Dilfer is breaking down a play and he's like, "OK, here, the play is obviously Omaha Trips X-Ray Red 94 Slot Cowboy Bravo Option B Gap Slam, but the QB throws to the 4th option without even looking off the Sam. YOU CANNOT MAKE THAT MISTAKE IF YOU EXPECT TO WIN IN THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE!"


yeah trent, because every team in the NFL uses the exact same call/play string terminology.

Or how about, yeah Trent because you were such an awesome QB when you played... he sucked. He was lucky to get a SB ring with the Ravens because of their defense, I believe they released or traded him and he played somewhere else the very next season.

Trent Dilfer did not "suck." He was never the type to throw for 4500 yards, didn't have a laser rocket arm, but he was a great decision maker and was pretty accurate. He wasn't exciting, and he was too old to build the offense around so they moved on, but you can win without being a gunslinger.

And if you're bringing up the Super Bowl, I'll bring up the first score of the night. 38 yards in the air, perfect placement over the shoulder. Can't do that if you "suck." But more importantly, no turnovers on the night either:



Basically, no he's not the best athlete. But he's smarter than most. Which is why he can say "Trips left Z go max protect" and be right. Also, it's because things like "trips," calling wideouts X, Y, and Z, calling linebackers Will, Sam, and Mike, etc. are standard football terminology -- they're not team specific. A 9-route is a 9-route no matter who runs it.

/Dilfer did have a 48% completion percentage on the night
//still one more ring than Marino :)

Yanks_RSJ: All the eavesdropping in the world isn't going to make Aaron Brooks not suck.

That's true, but you'd think it would help SOMEwhere. It's not like they had Brees as their QB for away games and Brooks for home games.

No proof. Unnamed sources slinging mud on something of which there's no evidence.

Another day in the funny pages.

bulldg4life: Damn, I missed one of the talking points.

Yes, "there is no proof of this" is a big talking point.

bulldg4life: Instant deflection that it is just someone slinging mud is a talking point. "There isn't any evidence of this. I'd like to see some proof" isn't a talking point.

But, I mean, everybody knew you would defend or deflect this. I'm just upset that I didn't think of the obvious Weeners.

Defend or deflect? PROVE IT. Cross your fingers and hope this is true all you want, PROVE IT.

On another note, I REALLY had a bad feeling today. Hand to God, I honestly had a bad feeling something would happen with the Saints today. I figured it'd be the long-delayed player suspensions being announced, however. Spooky.