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(National Review)   NRO doesn't want Anders Breivik to face trial because we all need to get over this nasty business as soon as possible. The fact that he was a big fan of several NRO contributors and may mention that in court has no bearing on that opinion   (nationalreview.com) divider line 38
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2012-04-23 02:40:55 PM
4 votes:

beta_plus: Awww. did someone break his race card? And that was after finding out that his paradise would rather spend its petrodollars on parents who knowingly had kids they couldn't afford than helicopters or even very affordable zodiac boats for their once legendary Special Forces?


What in God's good name are you blathering on about now? Are you drunk? Usually you try to keep some semblance of connection to the discussion at hand, but you're basically doing the Web equivalent of standing in a corner yelling at your shoes.
2012-04-23 03:14:36 PM
3 votes:

WombatControl: That's what a successful conviction means - he's already admitted to the killings. All that remains is the question of his supposed defense, which has no legal merit. There are no disputed facts to be determined at a trial - a summary proceeding would seem to make a hell of a lot more sense than what amounts to a show trial in which he gets to spout his rhetoric in a public forum.


Do you have a GED in Norwegian law?
2012-04-23 05:03:03 PM
2 votes:
WibblyChunks 2012-04-23 04:49:21 PM:

So what if Brievik was "inspired" by someone like Pamela Geller?

So what if Fartbama was "inspired" by William Ayers?
2012-04-23 03:23:21 PM
2 votes:

Bad_Seed: Halli: He plead not guilty moran.

He pleaded self defence. He was just standing his ground. This whole trial is a lib-sponsored mob-justice witch hunt.


Which is why we should convict him without a trial. Duh.
2012-04-23 03:20:15 PM
2 votes:

Halli: WombatControl: That's what a successful conviction means - he's already admitted to the killings. All that remains is the question of his supposed defense, which has no legal merit. There are no disputed facts to be determined at a trial - a summary proceeding would seem to make a hell of a lot more sense than what amounts to a show trial in which he gets to spout his rhetoric in a public forum.

Link

He plead not guilty moran.


Stop oppressing him with your totalitarian facts! Just like a libby lib lib to dare engage in oppression by arguing a point!
2012-04-23 03:01:31 PM
2 votes:
You can't spell "moron" without NRO.
2012-04-23 02:48:54 PM
2 votes:

beta_plus: Funny how the point of the article is that the Norwegians suspended some of those civil rights when WWII ended to try collaborators (hence the term Quisling).


Good Lord, you're pulling shiat from WWII to defend this guy? I hope they're paying you well to post this garbage, although you've got to live with the bad taste in your mouth. I understand you get used to it if the pay's good enough.
2012-04-23 02:42:53 PM
2 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: Photographed with her ilk:


Ewww, when the cat barfs in the hallway you clean it up before the party starts.
2012-04-23 02:30:44 PM
2 votes:
Yeah I wonder why NRO would want him sent off to "anonymous obscurity"...BWHAHAHAHAHA!
2012-04-23 05:24:51 PM
1 votes:
WhoopeeCushion: If Brievik had been a left-wing activist influenced by The Daily Kos and communist propaganda my response would be the same.


Uh huh, and I have two beautiful skyscrapers in NooYawk to sell you.

You gave yourself completely away by Daily Kos/communist propaganda.

In short you're a liar.
2012-04-23 05:19:15 PM
1 votes:

Bloody William: qorkfiend: Kittypie070: WibblyChunks 2012-04-23 04:49:21 PM:

So what if Brievik was "inspired" by someone like Pamela Geller?

So what if Fartbama was "inspired" by William Ayers?

Wow! Obama was inspired to enable access to affordable health insurance; Brievik was inspired to murder innocent children. The two are totally the same!

Look up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's her point!


It's too bright out! It was against the sun! I'm in Combat Wombat mode!
2012-04-23 05:11:30 PM
1 votes:

Kittypie070: WibblyChunks 2012-04-23 04:49:21 PM:

So what if Brievik was "inspired" by someone like Pamela Geller?

So what if Fartbama was "inspired" by William Ayers?


Wow! Obama was inspired to enable access to affordable health insurance; Brievik was inspired to murder innocent children. The two are totally the same!
2012-04-23 04:35:44 PM
1 votes:

MisterLoki: WombatControl: Halli: Link

Here is one. This was pretty common defense. Even Tatsuma tried it on fark numerous times.

A two-bit blogger hardly qualifies as a "prominent" figure.

Here's your "two-bit" blogger on Fox News: Link

And here she is on CNN: Link


If Pamela Gellar is a two-bit blogger, David Duke is a two-bit community organizer.
2012-04-23 04:07:40 PM
1 votes:

WombatControl: Gotta love the left - in the face of a senseless slaughter of innocent lives, their first instinct is to attack political dissent. (After Oklahoma City, after Giffords, and now Brievik the left has used tragedy as a cudgel against their political enemies.) Prick a "liberal" and it seems like a totalitarian bleeds.


www.instablogsimages.com

No, you retarded asshole, we're the ones saying due process, the legal process in Norway, should be followed correctly. Your team is saying, no need for all that, just chuck him in a hole and look something shiny over there! i.e. let the state go all totalitarian on him.
2012-04-23 04:01:42 PM
1 votes:
In Breivik's defense, many of those kids were carrying Skittles. So don't be so quick to judge, stupid libs.
2012-04-23 03:30:53 PM
1 votes:

qorkfiend: theorellior: Halli: Link

Here is one. This was pretty common defense. Even Tatsuma tried it on fark numerous times.

What say you, WombatControl? Was Breivik justified in his actions because of those numerous "non-Norwegian" faces?

He's gotten roughed up in the last 15 minutes or so. He might have to head to the bench for a few.


Next troll alt in 5... 4... 3...
2012-04-23 03:23:32 PM
1 votes:
Zodiac boats!!!
2012-04-23 03:22:08 PM
1 votes:

Halli: He plead not guilty moran.


He pleaded self defence. He was just standing his ground. This whole trial is a lib-sponsored mob-justice witch hunt.
2012-04-23 03:17:42 PM
1 votes:

Halli: Here is one. This was pretty common defense. Even Tatsuma tried it on fark numerous times.


Don't forget Pat Buchanan.
2012-04-23 03:16:35 PM
1 votes:

WombatControl: That's what a successful conviction means - he's already admitted to the killings. All that remains is the question of his supposed defense, which has no legal merit. There are no disputed facts to be determined at a trial - a summary proceeding would seem to make a hell of a lot more sense than what amounts to a show trial in which he gets to spout his rhetoric in a public forum.


Link

He plead not guilty moran.
2012-04-23 03:11:24 PM
1 votes:
Oh I see.

beta_plus is also pro-Nazi.
2012-04-23 03:10:32 PM
1 votes:

Halli: WombatControl: Gotta love the left - in the face of a senseless slaughter of innocent lives, their first instinct is to attack political dissent. (After Oklahoma City, after Giffords, and now Brievik the left has used tragedy as a cudgel against their political enemies.) Prick a "liberal" and it seems like a totalitarian bleeds.

Yeah stupid libs. Getting all outraged about Breivik repeatedly citing right wing nutjobs in his manifesto. Just ignore it!!!


Lol exactly.

How dare you point out this this was one of MANY, right wing wack-jobs that are the direct result of the right's increasing vitrolic attitude?!?

How dare you?! Oh because that's the entire purpose of why he killed all those people.... carry on then.
2012-04-23 03:09:11 PM
1 votes:

WombatControl: Gotta love the left - in the face of a senseless slaughter of innocent lives, their first instinct is to attack political dissent. (After Oklahoma City, after Giffords, and now Brievik the left has used tragedy as a cudgel against their political enemies.) Prick a "liberal" and it seems like a totalitarian bleeds.


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Nice smokescreen. You're now carrying water for Anders Breivik are you? Interesting to know.
2012-04-23 03:07:56 PM
1 votes:
The first such question is: Why should there be a trial at all - or at least a trial that treats the verdict as something in doubt? Everybody knows that Breivik murdered 77 innocent people

Small government, except when you're charged with a crime and "everybody knows you did it."

That's really bad, even for NRO.
2012-04-23 03:07:32 PM
1 votes:

WombatControl: Gotta love the left - in the face of a senseless slaughter of innocent lives, their first instinct is to attack political dissent. (After Oklahoma City, after Giffords, and now Brievik the left has used tragedy as a cudgel against their political enemies.) Prick a "liberal" and it seems like a totalitarian bleeds.


Yeah stupid libs. Getting all outraged about Breivik repeatedly citing right wing nutjobs in his manifesto. Just ignore it!!!
2012-04-23 03:07:21 PM
1 votes:

WombatControl: qorkfiend: clovis69: Read the article, don't usually agree with O'Sullivan, but he is right, what is the point of this multi-week trial where the defendant gets to say, over and over and over he did it, he is glad he did it, this is why he did it.

The defendants at the Hague don't get to grandstand like this, for all of the circus that is a US court, people here don't get to grandstand like this, what is the point of this long-ass trial where the defendant has been judged sane and admits to everything?

You'd rather have the state declare him guilty and incarcerate him without a trial?

Read TFA:

Why could the court not simply hear his plea, take very brief factual evidence identifying Breivik as the perpetrator, pronounce him guilty, and then dispatch him off to anonymous obscurity for the rest of his life?

Trials with that brisk format used to take place in Britain following guilty pleas. Something like that could surely have been justified here. Indeed, it might be a moral improvement on what otherwise cannot help being a show trial.

Instead of misrepresenting the article, read what it's actually arguing rather than attacking a strawman.

Gotta love the left - in the face of a senseless slaughter of innocent lives, their first instinct is to attack political dissent. (After Oklahoma City, after Giffords, and now Brievik the left has used tragedy as a cudgel against their political enemies.) Prick a "liberal" and it seems like a totalitarian bleeds.


So letting the guy make an arse of himself trying to argue it was a necessity for him to set off a bomb in Oslo and kill 77 people, mostly kids, and pointing out the similarity of some of his rhetoric to that espoused by nationalist reactionaries abroad is totalitarian?

Is this like claiming that anyone who quotes you is lying?
2012-04-23 02:52:35 PM
1 votes:

qorkfiend: clovis69: Read the article, don't usually agree with O'Sullivan, but he is right, what is the point of this multi-week trial where the defendant gets to say, over and over and over he did it, he is glad he did it, this is why he did it.

The defendants at the Hague don't get to grandstand like this, for all of the circus that is a US court, people here don't get to grandstand like this, what is the point of this long-ass trial where the defendant has been judged sane and admits to everything?

You'd rather have the state declare him guilty and incarcerate him without a trial?


Republican "small government" just means a handful of people with unlimited power.
2012-04-23 02:48:16 PM
1 votes:

beta_plus: Magorn: Admittedly there was an issue of scale involved, but Norway's response to Brevick will always be a source of shame for the US when we compare it how we reacted to 9/11. Norway said "this man wanted to terrorize us and subvert the rule of law, so we respond by refusing to be afraid and giving this chump every scrap of due process we can"

The US responded by saying "take our civil liberties-please" And not only did we allow Bush to put in place a survelillance system that even His right-wing nutjob of an AG refused to sign off on, but we saw travesties like an American citizen arrested (using a bogus material witness warrant) on US soil who was then thrown into a military holding facility and held incommunicado, without any charges for the beter part of 6 years, all the while the Executive branch was asserting that not even the Supreme Court had a right to review this decision.

Funny how the point of the article is that the Norwegians suspended some of those civil rights when WWII ended to try collaborators (hence the term Quisling).

/I'm sure they were extra careful with those trials *snert*


Clearly this is the same situation as post-WWII, recently-liberated-from-Nazi-puppet-government-and-occupation...
2012-04-23 02:45:52 PM
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: To get her point across, Geller posts a picture of the youth camp children Breivik targeted. The picture was taken on the Utøya island camp about 24 hours before Breivik killed over 30 children, so it is likely Geller is mocking many of the victims. Under the picture, Geller writes: "Note the faces which are more MIddle [sic] Eastern or mixed than pure Norwegian."

That's prominent American bigot and teabagger Pam Gellar, in case anyone forgot. Breivik just loved her website.

Photographed with her ilk:

[thinkprogress.org image 221x300]


she looks somewhat middle eastern herself.
2012-04-23 02:43:26 PM
1 votes:

theorellior: beta_plus: Awww. did someone break his race card? And that was after finding out that his paradise would rather spend its petrodollars on parents who knowingly had kids they couldn't afford than helicopters or even very affordable zodiac boats for their once legendary Special Forces?

What in God's good name are you blathering on about now? Are you drunk? Usually you try to keep some semblance of connection to the discussion at hand, but you're basically doing the Web equivalent of standing in a corner yelling at your shoes.


He says "liberals" really killed those children because Norway doesn't spend all of its money on weapons. He cannot escape that Breivik is the model teabagger, so his spin is increasingly sad.
2012-04-23 02:25:45 PM
1 votes:

Citrate1007: NRO's opinion "there is no reason that he deserves the due process of the law, just find him guilt and move on".


This contradicts the headline in what way?
2012-04-23 02:25:25 PM
1 votes:

beta_plus: Liberal butthurt. We all know they love a circus trial but only when it helps them:

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]


ISN'T IT HILARIOUS HOW THIS IS ACTUALLY ABOUT LIBERALS, HUH GUYS

BECAUSE THEY'RE SO BAD

THOSE LIBERALS
2012-04-23 02:24:48 PM
1 votes:

abb3w: Which means, the court has to listen to him present evidence for this before saying "bullshiat".


It should get pretty lulzy when he starts ticking off the bullet points in his manifesto and quotes some of the Usual Suspects.
2012-04-23 02:23:04 PM
1 votes:

mitchcumstein1: You still get your day in court, even if you're a subhuman, vile, hate mongering piece of shiat. Civil rights are an asshole like that.


This.
2012-04-23 02:21:24 PM
1 votes:
OMFG SUBBY, the article says NOTHING LIKE TH-

Oh it does.

Oh I see.

Carry on.
2012-04-23 02:21:16 PM
1 votes:

Cythraul: Not really what I gathered from the article, subby. But then again, I only read the first four paragraphs. Sounds like some are just advocating side-stepping most of the process of law and just pronounce him guilty to reduce the impact he'll have in the Media.


Can't having drawing attention to our resident whack-jobs.

It's going to get a lot worse in the coming months.

Hopefully things will die down a year or so after Obama's re-election, but I doubt it. It's gonna take a decade or so of good economic times for people to calm down.
2012-04-23 02:05:17 PM
1 votes:

Aarontology: Why is Fark still giving green lights to a website that promotes white supremacy and terrorism?


Because Fark really, really loves the myth that if there are two viewpoints on an issue, you have to give them each 50% of your attention, because all viewpoints are precisely equal in validity.
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-04-23 01:10:52 PM
1 votes:

vernonFL: It sounds like the guy was inspired by Al Qaeda as much as NRO.


He hates Muslims, so more NRO than Al Queda I think.

Apart from the fact that Breivick had the guts to do what most right wingers only talk about, he doesn't sound all that different from our social conservatives. I can see why they want to shut him up.
 
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