So what you're saying is, it's high time I have my employer opt out of my SS withholding, and just never pay it?

Or should I continue paying a 6.2% tax on my wages because...old people don't die as quickly? The government doesn't know how to manage money? The dollar ain't worth what it once was?

Here's the thing - as someone who has been paying into both SS and Medicare for 20+ years, I say fark you to the old person pandering by saying they will reduce entitlements for those under 55. If our representatives in Congress want to make cuts, make them effective immediately - the baby boomer generation has had years to prepare and many of them have hefty pensions to boot - a luxury us X'ers will never have.

/ Lets see if those old folks really have the bootstraps they think they have...
// Come at me old bros...

Send me back what I put in. Dont take anymore from me and we can call it even right now. Move it from the retirement fund to the dissability fund my arse. Do a better job screening the disabled you idiots.

James!: jim32rr: James!: jim32rr: James!: I've been hearing that the sky is falling for almost 20 years now.

You ok there Pops? Can I get you anything? Would you like to sit by the window again?

I would like a beer if you're already up.

I'm older than you by decades, but it's always a good time for a Guinness

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Guiness is less than 5% abv, fark that shiat

Marcus Aurelius: So let's tax the crap out of rich people and count capital gains as regular income and remove the cap on Social Security above !4 million in annual income.

Problem solved!

God forbid congress stops raiding the coffers.

Marcus Aurelius: So let's tax the crap out of rich people and count capital gains as regular income and remove the cap on Social Security above !4 million in annual income.

Problem solved!

you sound poor. Let's just make sure no one can invest for retirement! Lets have the government take it all because its not like they don't know what the hell they're doing with it

Mearen: God forbid congress stops raiding the coffers.

You do realize there are no coffers, their never were any coffers, the whole lock box bull shiat was a lie from the get go. The Social Security tax is just a tax whose monies go first to pay current benefits and any excess winds up in the general budget.

Anyway SS is easy to fix just remove the cap on how much income is taxed, but you do realize that Republicans will oppose any tax increase.

Social Security and Medicare would have been fixed if we didn't have an entire political party arguing in bad faith.

And Social Security isn't even a big problem. A slight bump in the taxable income for social security would see it funded in perpetuity. But the only reason we can't have that, is because one of our political parties wants to deliver your social security money to Wall Street. Because if there's any punishment fitting for people who gambled our economy to the brink of disaster, it's refusing to reinstate the regulation we apparently needed and handing them millions of accounts that we couldn't *possibly* allow to fail.

Similarly with Medicare, really. If one of our parties wasn't so busy inventing boogeymen, this shiat would have been solved. It's their legislative wet dream with Obama/Romney's name on it. If they weren't so hell-bent on trying to tar Obama with "worst president ever" they wouldn't be in the position where their 'Big Idea' for dealing with cost increases is to cap government contribution (vouchers), pushing cost increases directly onto seniors and pretending that solves anything.

Yeah, "out of sight out of mind" is nothing if not bold, serious and responsible.

Can we just euthanize anyone who reaches age 75? Would help out a lot and also help cut down on traffic accidents.

/was cut off by some old bag on the way to work this morning

Eating Old People to Save Social Security: Can we just euthanize anyone who reaches age 75? Would help out a lot and also help cut down on traffic accidents.

/was cut off by some old bag on the way to work this morning

I think we need to impose theJerry Macguire method of geriatric care - "help us help you". Basically at 65 if you want medical benefits, you must prove you do at least 30min of aerobics 7 days a week. Failure to comply results in termination of benefits. Barring coma or a very limited set of pre-existing medical criteria, no exceptions.

I think I'll save for retirement by NEVER PAYING TAXES AGAIN.

Fissile: Weaver95: obviously, the solution is more tax cuts for rich people.

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Tax cuts on the rich alone won't do it. We also need to stop taxing corporations, and remove all regulation from business. We haven't had a Triangle Shirtwaist style fire in quite some time. Think of all the new business for funeral parlors!

No no, the solutions are abstinence-based sex education and family-friendly entertainment. You know, smaller govrnment

James!: Drinking to get hammered is for kids awesome!

FTFY

How long before Obama signs a Congress-avoiding Executive Order requiring daily Metamucil insuflations or face the wrath of the IRS?

KrispyKritter: tax paying workers are slaves to the system they are in today just as they were 20, 30, 40 years ago. but you keep blaming the people who worked and contributed all their lives. it's not like the arseclowns of WashDC are the ones who are in charge of running these operations, for good or bad, and have left them in the state they are in today.
i've never heard old folks talk down they way you are claiming. just the opposite; it's tea and sympathy. but you keep listening to the voices in your head. it's easier to blame someone else for woes than standing up and being a man.

If the clowns in DC try to lower the benefits, then the people that are retired or close to it (mainly the AARP) throw a huge hissyfit and claim they are trying to kill old people.

machoprogrammer: KrispyKritter: tax paying workers are slaves to the system they are in today just as they were 20, 30, 40 years ago. but you keep blaming the people who worked and contributed all their lives. it's not like the arseclowns of WashDC are the ones who are in charge of running these operations, for good or bad, and have left them in the state they are in today.
i've never heard old folks talk down they way you are claiming. just the opposite; it's tea and sympathy. but you keep listening to the voices in your head. it's easier to blame someone else for woes than standing up and being a man.

If the clowns in DC try to lower the benefits, then the people that are retired or close to it (mainly the AARP) throw a huge hissyfit and claim they are trying to kill old people.

I guess all I can hope for is to see tea partiers dying homeless on the street after voting in the politicians who blocked health care reform. I could show them pictures of all the mansions and yachts owned by the insurance company executives. THAT would almost be worth it.

Stupid farkheads probably still wouldn't get it.

edmo: The "aging workforce" is dumping money into social security at a good pace as there are lots of them and they make good money being at the top of their careers.

Actually, no. the Social Security has been running a deficit for the last couple of years.

Social Security's expenditures exceeded non-interest income in 2010 and 2011, the first such occurrences since 1983, and the Trustees estimate that these expenditures will remain greater than non-interest income throughout the 75-year projection period.


Good: We have about $2.5 Trillion in the SS Trust Fund
Bad: The trust fund is nothing more than IOUs.
Ugly: Redeeming these IOUs directly increases the deficits and debt.