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2012-04-22 12:29:16 PM

With how well things have gone on this road trip, I'm almost worried to see what happens when we get back to Cleveland.

GO TRIBE!

www.toledoblade.com
 
2012-04-22 12:44:06 PM
"How much of a lead do the Red Sox need to win a ballgame?"

Apparently 30 runs, given last night.

Go Bobby and Fox sucks, they missed 5 of the runs.

/sox fan
 
2012-04-22 12:45:04 PM
And yes last night hurt.
 
2012-04-22 01:03:00 PM
I clearly chose the wrong day to go to Safeco this weekend. Oh well, it's going to be a great day for an afternoon game. Go Sox! Sweep!

/m's will likely win because I am going to be there. Bet on it.
 
2012-04-22 01:06:50 PM
Will the D-Backs pitching keep giving away games?
 
2012-04-22 01:11:28 PM

Fear_and_Loathing: "How much of a lead do the Red Sox need to win a ballgame?"

Apparently 30 runs, given last night.

Go Bobby and Fox sucks, they missed 5 of the runs.

/sox fan


Yeah curse those assholes for going to a perfect game in what was at the time a blowout. Those stupid cocks.
 
2012-04-22 01:16:39 PM
C'mon, Rangers! Knock 'em the f*ck out!
 
2012-04-22 01:19:37 PM
Even though this is an ESPN Sunday Night Game, the Red Sox may luck out and get a rainout, there's supposed to be rainstorms in Boston tonight. They really need not to play this game. The backlash I've read online is blaming everyone for the current state of the Sox: Valentine, Theo Epstein, the bullpen, the poor farm teams/lack of good prospects in past years, ownership...
 
2012-04-22 01:20:44 PM
I'd be pretty happy with a split against Texas.
 
2012-04-22 01:21:34 PM
And how many CF will the Cardinals go through in April?

/hey guys, the warning track is there for a reason
//so is the wall
 
2012-04-22 01:22:16 PM

skinink: Even though this is an ESPN Sunday Night Game, the Red Sox may luck out and get a rainout, there's supposed to be rainstorms in Boston tonight. They really need not to play this game. The backlash I've read online is blaming everyone for the current state of the Sox: Valentine, Theo Epstein, the bullpen, the poor farm teams/lack of good prospects in past years, ownership...


I hate Bobby Valentine, but I think he's probably last on the list of blame for yesterday's game.
 
2012-04-22 01:23:03 PM

Wise_Guy: skinink: Even though this is an ESPN Sunday Night Game, the Red Sox may luck out and get a rainout, there's supposed to be rainstorms in Boston tonight. They really need not to play this game. The backlash I've read online is blaming everyone for the current state of the Sox: Valentine, Theo Epstein, the bullpen, the poor farm teams/lack of good prospects in past years, ownership...

I hate Bobby Valentine, but I think he's probably last on the list of blame for yesterday's game.


I should add, though, that you don't often see IBBs with nobody out, and he did it twice yesterday.
 
2012-04-22 01:24:22 PM

skinink: the poor farm teams/lack of good prospects


That isn't the problem. Lots of guys in the farm system which are being called up, along with trades in the works for over the hill players.
 
2012-04-22 01:25:47 PM
Ryan Braun is getting his MVP award today. I wonder if they've glued an asterisk to it.
 
2012-04-22 01:26:05 PM

Wise_Guy: Wise_Guy: skinink: Even though this is an ESPN Sunday Night Game, the Red Sox may luck out and get a rainout, there's supposed to be rainstorms in Boston tonight. They really need not to play this game. The backlash I've read online is blaming everyone for the current state of the Sox: Valentine, Theo Epstein, the bullpen, the poor farm teams/lack of good prospects in past years, ownership...

I hate Bobby Valentine, but I think he's probably last on the list of blame for yesterday's game.

I should add, though, that you don't often see IBBs with nobody out, and he did it twice yesterday.


How dare you question the man who invented the wrap sandwich.
 
2012-04-22 01:31:38 PM

Yanks_RSJ: How dare you question the man who invented the wrap sandwich.


And air, baseball, women, EMS, the slider, and fruit roll ups..........
 
2012-04-22 01:31:55 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Wise_Guy: Wise_Guy: skinink: Even though this is an ESPN Sunday Night Game, the Red Sox may luck out and get a rainout, there's supposed to be rainstorms in Boston tonight. They really need not to play this game. The backlash I've read online is blaming everyone for the current state of the Sox: Valentine, Theo Epstein, the bullpen, the poor farm teams/lack of good prospects in past years, ownership...

I hate Bobby Valentine, but I think he's probably last on the list of blame for yesterday's game.

I should add, though, that you don't often see IBBs with nobody out, and he did it twice yesterday.

How dare you question the man who invented the wrap sandwich.


I suppose it's possible he was setting up a triple play.
 
2012-04-22 01:34:20 PM

Wise_Guy: I suppose it's possible he was setting up a triple play.


That sounds like something from an anime

/yes I've seen baseball themed anime
 
2012-04-22 01:34:59 PM
i.imgur.com

/Go Cards
 
2012-04-22 01:36:42 PM

Fear_and_Loathing: And air


According to the late great Ronnie James Dio, it was Gene Simmons who invented air.
 
2012-04-22 01:39:46 PM

BalanceInLife: i.imgur.com
/Go Cards


Go Cards, indeed.

/Kyle Lohse FTW
 
2012-04-22 01:47:48 PM
Get the brooms ready...time for another sweep!!

Go Tribe!
 
2012-04-22 01:52:13 PM
www.andrewrivkin.ca

/hot
 
2012-04-22 01:53:26 PM
Can Adrian Beltre tank my fantasy team? YES
 
2012-04-22 02:01:49 PM
Will the Mariners find a way on base?

They will when I play MLB 12: The Show later.
 
2012-04-22 02:18:36 PM
1. Ryan Howard and Chase Utley both indefinitely out with no timetable for recovery/return.

2. Cliff Lee will miss two to three starts with oblique strain.

3. Chooch Ruiz injured his wrist the other night.

4. The once fearsome Philly lineup is listless and punchless, incapable of producing more than a few runs per game.

5. Set up guys seem to specialize in setting up the opposing teams with winning runs.

Good things are that it's early and nobody in the NL East looks like they're interested in running away with it.
 
IP
2012-04-22 02:23:38 PM
Will the Mariners find a way on base?

www.brobible.com

/hawt
//*sob*
 
2012-04-22 02:31:44 PM
/listening to the Dodgers-Astros game right now
//hoping for a Dodgers sweep
 
2012-04-22 02:33:51 PM
Will the AL East-leading New York Yankees take it to the Red Sox no matter what kind of lead they may have?

i63.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-22 02:39:23 PM
The Angels have won their first series of the season. A sweep would be great. The game on TV even better.
 
2012-04-22 02:40:50 PM
[i63.photobucket.com image 291x400]

That is beautiful.

/favorited
 
2012-04-22 02:51:32 PM

rudemix: The Angels have won their first series of the season. A sweep would be great. The game on TV even better.


Astros just got a grand slam...ouch...looks like I'm going to be switching radio stations a lot in about half an hour (gotta catch that Angels game).
 
2012-04-22 02:59:10 PM
I'm kickin' it with Cueto today, lookin' for another getaway day win.
 
2012-04-22 02:59:33 PM

BalanceInLife: /Go Cards


If the cardinals logo was proportional that would be a terrifying large Cardinal.
 
2012-04-22 03:01:38 PM

MAYORBOB: Good things are that it's early and nobody in the NL East looks like they're interested in running away with it.


I don't know about that; the Nationals seem pretty interested.
 
2012-04-22 03:19:05 PM
Jesus, as a Boston sports fan, there is no way I can win today. The Bruins can tie it back up, and no win today could restore hope for the Sox.

//God, I wish Tom Brady could pitch. (He was drafted as a catcher by the Expos)
 
2012-04-22 03:26:17 PM
Will the rest of the country see too much New York / Boston?
 
2012-04-22 03:31:17 PM
Way to go putting benoit in the game there, tigers, I'm so glad you decided to completely suck the life out of a 1 run game... now I just have to find someone to wake me up when he finally decides to throw a farking pitch
 
2012-04-22 03:32:05 PM
Generation_D: Will the rest of the country see too much New York / Boston?

Guess not...
i.imgur.com
 
2012-04-22 04:03:17 PM

robsul82: Will the AL East-leading New York Yankees take it to the Red Sox no matter what kind of lead they may have?

[i63.photobucket.com image 291x400]


No wonder I have you favorited. XD

/YES! YES! YES!
 
2012-04-22 04:04:29 PM

Wise_Guy: Generation_D: Will the rest of the country see too much New York / Boston?

Guess not...
[i.imgur.com image 523x82]


Ah well...at least the Yanks can take the first flight out to Arlington earlier than expected.
 
2012-04-22 04:07:15 PM
i3.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-22 04:16:28 PM
Travis Hafner with an RBI double, still leads the AL in OBP.

/1-0 Tribe, middle 1st
 
2012-04-22 04:19:04 PM

neuroflare: Will the D-Backs pitching keep giving away games?


The hemorrhaging continues
 
2012-04-22 04:20:48 PM

Wise_Guy: Generation_D: Will the rest of the country see too much New York / Boston?

Guess not...
[i.imgur.com image 523x82]


Wow, even God feels bad for the Red Sox.
 
2012-04-22 04:26:31 PM
When the stadium music is Looney Tunes, you may have committed a tad few too many errors.

Hey, the Astros are blowing somebody out instead of just blowing.
 
2012-04-22 04:28:47 PM

Rwa2play: robsul82: Will the AL East-leading New York Yankees take it to the Red Sox no matter what kind of lead they may have?

[i63.photobucket.com image 291x400]

No wonder I have you favorited. XD

/YES! YES! YES!


LOL, the YES YES YES chant broke out during the Olympic wrestling trials.
 
2012-04-22 04:30:53 PM
Can the Royals lose their tenth in a row?

Yep. OK BLUE JAYS!

www.andrewrivkin.ca
 
2012-04-22 04:42:00 PM
Braves pitcher almost took a shot right in the ass from kubel'shiat
 
2012-04-22 04:45:06 PM
Lol he just walked the pitcher with bases loaded
 
2012-04-22 04:47:00 PM
Grand slam gerrardo parra!
 
2012-04-22 04:54:05 PM
/Thanks, Rangers
 
2012-04-22 05:02:59 PM
I would pay lots of money to see a starting pitching matchup of Aroldis Chapman vs. Steven Strausburg.
 
2012-04-22 05:05:10 PM

CommiePuddin: I would pay lots of money to see a starting pitching matchup of Aroldis Chapman vs. Steven Strausburg.


I would have to pay lots of money, as I live in AZ and would definitely have to travel to see that matchup
 
2012-04-22 05:32:24 PM
I'm kind of pissed off that the Sox/Yankees game was postponed. I wanted to hear Tito in the booth have to talk about the current team. Even better if it's juxtaposed against the fans booing Bobby V.
 
2012-04-22 05:34:48 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-04-22 05:35:03 PM

neuroflare: Grand slam gerrardo parra!


Love that kid. My favorite d-back besides Ryan Roberts. Miss watching the games.
 
2012-04-22 05:36:37 PM

Chupacabra Sandwich: neuroflare: Grand slam gerrardo parra!

Love that kid. My favorite d-back besides Ryan Roberts. Miss watching the games.


How's the rookie team doing up there, lol
 
2012-04-22 05:39:22 PM

neuroflare: Chupacabra Sandwich: neuroflare: Grand slam gerrardo parra!

Love that kid. My favorite d-back besides Ryan Roberts. Miss watching the games.

How's the rookie team doing up there, lol


Osprey dont start until after the draft. I'm going. Should be fun.
 
2012-04-22 05:53:54 PM

CavalierEternal: /Thanks, Rangers


Between Verlander and Humber, you guys have a tough road. Good luck.
 
2012-04-22 06:14:07 PM
And this is what our "resting the starters" lineup looks like, Indians fans. This is why we're bringing in Johnny Damon.
 
2012-04-22 06:36:15 PM

CavalierEternal: Travis Hafner with an RBI double, still leads the AL in OBP.

/1-0 Tribe, middle 1st


4-1 Oakland, bottom 8th. Would have commented earlier, just woke up.

Go A's!
 
2012-04-22 06:43:08 PM
5-1, top 9.

/not rubbing it in. Y'all still took the series
//Oak and Cleve have a lot in common
///they're both "lands" f'rinstance
 
2012-04-22 06:45:09 PM

coffee fiend: And how many CF will the Cardinals go through in April?

/hey guys, the warning track is there for a reason
//so is the wall


Hey, Splatkip got better.
 
2012-04-22 06:48:29 PM
Eh, throwing the bench players in there is pretty much conceding a loss, especially to a team with Oakland's ERA. 7-2 on the road trip, back home Tuesday to pick on the Royals some more.
 
2012-04-22 06:51:05 PM

CavalierEternal: Eh, throwing the bench players in there is pretty much conceding a loss, especially to a team with Oakland's ERA. 7-2 on the road trip, back home Tuesday to pick on the Royals some more.


Hey you win 2 of three every series (especially on the road) pretty soon you got a decent record. Go kill KC.
 
2012-04-22 07:12:39 PM
Orioles win in 10 innings to move to 9-7 on the season, 6-4 during the road trip. According to a stat they showed during the broadcast, this is the first time since 2004 that Baltimore notched a winning record on a road trip (at least 10 games).

Also, this is the latest in a season that the O's have held a winning record since 2008, when they made it all the way to July before dipping below .500 for good.
 
2012-04-22 07:33:27 PM

Harv72b: Orioles win in 10 innings to move to 9-7 on the season, 6-4 during the road trip. According to a stat they showed during the broadcast, this is the first time since 2004 that Baltimore notched a winning record on a road trip (at least 10 games).

Also, this is the latest in a season that the O's have held a winning record since 2008, when they made it all the way to July before dipping below .500 for good.


Kind of an interesting start for the AL East; two 9-7 teams, two 9-6 teams... and the Red Sox
 
2012-04-22 07:45:58 PM

The Bestest: Harv72b: Orioles win in 10 innings to move to 9-7 on the season, 6-4 during the road trip. According to a stat they showed during the broadcast, this is the first time since 2004 that Baltimore notched a winning record on a road trip (at least 10 games).

Also, this is the latest in a season that the O's have held a winning record since 2008, when they made it all the way to July before dipping below .500 for good.

Kind of an interesting start for the AL East; two 9-7 teams, two 9-6 teams... and the Red Sox


LOLZ. I take comfort in the fact that this part of the year is going pretty well. Blue Jays have their chinks in their "armor" but hopefully the kids can step up.
 
2012-04-22 10:13:03 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: CavalierEternal: Eh, throwing the bench players in there is pretty much conceding a loss, especially to a team with Oakland's ERA. 7-2 on the road trip, back home Tuesday to pick on the Royals some more.

Hey you win 2 of three every series (especially on the road) pretty soon you got a decent record. Go kill KC.

Going out on limb and predicting KC takes Cle series. The raw talent of KC young line up wins it.
 
2012-04-22 10:15:01 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: CavalierEternal: Eh, throwing the bench players in there is pretty much conceding a loss, especially to a team with Oakland's ERA. 7-2 on the road trip, back home Tuesday to pick on the Royals some more.

Hey you win 2 of three every series (especially on the road) pretty soon you got a decent record. Go kill KC.
Going out on limb and predicting KC takes Cle series. The raw talent of KC young line up wins it.


How did that young, raw talent work out for them in the first series against the Indians?
 
2012-04-22 10:17:06 PM
Blue Jays looked good today. Royals did not.
 
2012-04-22 10:18:30 PM

theurge14: Blue Jays looked good today. Royals did not.


Look like a balanced game to me
 
2012-04-22 10:34:57 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: theurge14: Blue Jays looked good today. Royals did not.

Look like a balanced game to me


Royals continue to strand baserunners.
 
2012-04-23 10:09:45 AM
I need someplace to register my annoyance: It pisses me off that the Rangers' winning run came on what even the ump admits should have been a strikeout instead of a hit.
 
2012-04-23 11:03:06 AM

meanmutton: I need someplace to register my annoyance: It pisses me off that the Rangers' winning run came on what even the ump admits should have been a strikeout instead of a hit.


I think you mean what should have been a foul ball... Still would have had the bases loaded with no outs, but that's the way baseball go
 
2012-04-23 11:10:33 AM

theurge14: Mid_mo_mad_man: theurge14: Blue Jays looked good today. Royals did not.

Look like a balanced game to me

Royals continue to strand baserunners.


Speaking of baserunners, if the third baseman bobbles the ball for that long and still gets you out, something's wrong.

/yeah, I know it was the DH, but still...
 
2012-04-23 11:21:37 AM

meanmutton: I need someplace to register my annoyance: It pisses me off that the Rangers' winning run came on what even the ump admits should have been a strikeout instead of a hit.


Your annoyance is duly noted, along with the fact that you seem to have forgotten the rules of the game (giving you the benefit of the doubt here).

Quick question: Since when is a hit ball that comes in contact with the batter while standing in the box considered a strike? Especially when it appears to come in contact with his back leg, which is clearly in foul territory? It should have been ruled a foul ball. Not a K. Weren't you in that thread last week about the "gift" triple play the Dodgers had?

Honestly though, when you give up 25 runs and score 12 over four games do you really expect to earn a split? Sure, it looks like that was a blown call and they should have sent Cruz back to third, but with no outs & the bases loaded in that situation, odds are that run was gonna come across anyway. Lead-off walks tend to score, whether it's Little League or the Major Leagues.

And that defense in Detroit? Gah! Look back at the first three Ranger at-bats in the series. Detroit was exposed in short order. Cabrera had two get by him that just about any other 3rd baseman would have at least knocked down & Fielder had one of his own get by that he should have gotten a glove on and then he had that bad throw to 2nd.

On the game-one telecast I caught, they flashed a stat that showed Detroit being tied for the fewers errors in the AL. I literally laughed so hard, I thought my sides were gonna split, thinking, "Well, no shiat! When you can't even get to the ball to put a glove on it, odds are you're not gonna commit an error!" Detroit ends up committing 5 in the series; 2 by Avila, with Cabrera, Santiago & Inge chipping in for one a piece.

Inge? Really? I thought he was a defensive stalwart. At least I remember some folks around here White Knighting him a few months back.
 
2012-04-23 11:32:24 AM

4NTLRZ: meanmutton: I need someplace to register my annoyance: It pisses me off that the Rangers' winning run came on what even the ump admits should have been a strikeout instead of a hit.

Your annoyance is duly noted, along with the fact that you seem to have forgotten the rules of the game (giving you the benefit of the doubt here).

Quick question: Since when is a hit ball that comes in contact with the batter while standing in the box considered a strike? Especially when it appears to come in contact with his back leg, which is clearly in foul territory? It should have been ruled a foul ball. Not a K. Weren't you in that thread last week about the "gift" triple play the Dodgers had?

Honestly though, when you give up 25 runs and score 12 over four games do you really expect to earn a split? Sure, it looks like that was a blown call and they should have sent Cruz back to third, but with no outs & the bases loaded in that situation, odds are that run was gonna come across anyway. Lead-off walks tend to score, whether it's Little League or the Major Leagues.

And that defense in Detroit? Gah! Look back at the first three Ranger at-bats in the series. Detroit was exposed in short order. Cabrera had two get by him that just about any other 3rd baseman would have at least knocked down & Fielder had one of his own get by that he should have gotten a glove on and then he had that bad throw to 2nd.

On the game-one telecast I caught, they flashed a stat that showed Detroit being tied for the fewers errors in the AL. I literally laughed so hard, I thought my sides were gonna split, thinking, "Well, no shiat! When you can't even get to the ball to put a glove on it, odds are you're not gonna commit an error!" Detroit ends up committing 5 in the series; 2 by Avila, with Cabrera, Santiago & Inge chipping in for one a piece.

Inge? Really? I thought he was a defensive stalwart. At least I remember some folks around here White Knighting him a few months back.


Watching this series got me wondering if the tigers have the least mobile infield of any team in baseball, a fair few of the hits that texas got looked like they could have been easily fielded if the teams were reversed. If the rangers and the tigers meet in the playoffs i can't imagine how many bunts ron washington is going to be throwing at them. when i saw that last bunt (even though it should have been a foul) i sat straight up on the couch and laughed, watching prince fielder try to get back to first was a little bit pathetic...
 
2012-04-23 01:24:49 PM

knight_on_the_rail: 4NTLRZ: meanmutton: Watching this series got me wondering if the tigers have the least mobile infield of any team in baseball, a fair few of the hits that texas got looked like they could have been easily fielded if the teams were reversed. If the rangers and the tigers meet in the playoffs i can't imagine how many bunts ron washington is going to be throwing at them. when i saw that last bunt (even though it should have been a foul) i sat straight up on the couch and laughed, watching prince fielder try to get back to first was a little bit pathetic...


I'll do you one better & go out on a pretty sturdy limb and say they're the worst defense in baseball, period. Before this season started, I had serious doubts about their defense. Especially after the Fielder signing. My thinking was (and still is) that they've got two guys in Feilder and Cabrera who really have no business being day to day infielders because their first step or two is so slow. Especially going back to the first three Ranger at-bats in this series where Texas hitters appeared to be thinking, "Let'shiat it right at their corners. They'll botch the play... if they can even get a glove on the ball." It was comical, really, and I think that just about any other corner infielders in MLB would have at least gotten to those balls (Michael Young included... he'd probably get to the ball, but not field it cleanly).

Anyone who has watched Texas play over the past several years had to know that Wash had the squeeze on in that situation with the bases loaded and no outs. And while Fielder was really out of position on that play, it was that rookie pitcher, Weber, who screwed the pooch. It's his responsibility to cover 1st in that situation & he was totally caugh off-guard. But Leyland is the one who put a rookie reliever in that situation, bringing another concern to the table for Detroit: Crazy old man does crazy old man shiat. Not only does Detroit have problems in the infield, but they've also got some pretty major concerns in the outfield. Delmon Young, for one, has no range. Really good hitter, but poor defensive player.

There are also other lesser concerns in their OF, but the main problem is that Detroit is such an unbalanced team that I find it really hard to believe they'll be able to go as deep in the playoffs as they did last year. I could be totally wrong, but they're stuck with a lineup of guys who either have huge bats and holes in their defensive games to match (Cabrera, Fielder, Peralta, Young, etc.), or guys that are good defensive players that can't hit (Inge, Kelly, Worth, etc.). I think that pitching is really going to have to carry Detroit, for them to have any major amount of success and Verlander can't do it all by himself. He can't pitch every day. That, or they're gonna have to score 10+ runs a game when they play serious contenders like Texas & New York to win.

Leyland and all Tiger fans should thank their lucky stars that they've got a true stud like Verlander at the top of their rotation. Without him they'd be in serious trouble, especially with Fister on the DL. I was fairly impressed with Drew Smyly. He was a bright-spot for Detroit, IMO. Really good start to the season for a rookie, but that may be because there's no book on him yet. Conventional baseball wisdom says that we should probably expect to see that change as he has more outings/exposure to MLB hitters.
 
2012-04-23 01:30:06 PM
"Let'shiat it..."

That was supposed to be the contraction "Let's" followed by the verb "hit".

/FARK Filter PWNED!
//Larf!
 
2012-04-23 01:38:04 PM

knight_on_the_rail: meanmutton: I need someplace to register my annoyance: It pisses me off that the Rangers' winning run came on what even the ump admits should have been a strikeout instead of a hit.

I think you mean what should have been a foul ball... Still would have had the bases loaded with no outs, but that's the way baseball go


Foul ball while bunting when you have two strikes is a strikeout.
 
2012-04-23 01:49:53 PM

4NTLRZ: meanmutton: I need someplace to register my annoyance: It pisses me off that the Rangers' winning run came on what even the ump admits should have been a strikeout instead of a hit.

Your annoyance is duly noted, along with the fact that you seem to have forgotten the rules of the game (giving you the benefit of the doubt here).

Quick question: Since when is a hit ball that comes in contact with the batter while standing in the box considered a strike? Especially when it appears to come in contact with his back leg, which is clearly in foul territory? It should have been ruled a foul ball. Not a K. Weren't you in that thread last week about the "gift" triple play the Dodgers had?


It was a bunted foul with two strikes. That's a strikeout.
 
2012-04-23 01:59:47 PM

4NTLRZ: And while Fielder was really out of position on that play, it was that rookie pitcher, Weber, who screwed the pooch. It's his responsibility to cover 1st in that situation & he was totally caugh off-guard. But Leyland is the one who put a rookie reliever in that situation, bringing another concern to the table for Detroit: Crazy old man does crazy old man shiat.


A good manager puts his rookie in tough situations in April so that come October they're used to it.

Ultimately, you're completely overthinking a few games in April. Yes, Detroit has fielding problems, but so have the Yankees for many years and they still manage to do remarkably well.

And please don't talk like the Rangers are great at defense. They have a very good outfield, but the 1b platoon is subpar(just like Detroit), Kinsler is meh, Michael Young played the field more than half the games last year and a third so far this year, Beltre is hurt(Gonzalez is no defensive stud), and Andrus makes a ton of errors
 
2012-04-23 03:04:31 PM

meanmutton: 4NTLRZ: meanmutton:
It was a bunted foul with two strikes. That's a strikeout.


Wow! Just, wow! You're quickly losing credibility with me.
Were you even watching the game?
The count was 0-0. That was the first pitch of Gonzales' at-bat, so not quite. Hell, you're not even close to being in the neighborhood. Try actually watching the game and/or paying attention to what's going on before you pop off and look... well... ignorant, for lack of a better term.

bhcompy: 4NTLRZ: And while Fielder was really out of position on that play, it was that rookie pitcher, Weber, who screwed the pooch. It's his responsibility to cover 1st in that situation & he was totally caugh off-guard. But Leyland is the one who put a rookie reliever in that situation, bringing another concern to the table for Detroit: Crazy old man does crazy old man shiat.

A good manager puts his rookie in tough situations in April so that come October they're used to it.

Ultimately, you're completely overthinking a few games in April. Yes, Detroit has fielding problems, but so have the Yankees for many years and they still manage to do remarkably well.

And please don't talk like the Rangers are great at defense. They have a very good outfield, but the 1b platoon is subpar(just like Detroit), Kinsler is meh, Michael Young played the field more than half the games last year and a third so far this year, Beltre is hurt(Gonzalez is no defensive stud), and Andrus makes a ton of errors


I'll give you the first point. Putting a rookie in that situation will hopefully pay off down the road.

The reason NY does remarkably well, despite fielding difficulties (which I think you're way overplaying) is because they have pitching depth that Detroit doesn't.

And I don't believe I said anything at all about Texas' defense, aside from the fact that even Michael Young as old & slow as he is gets to those balls that got past Cabrera (twice) and Fielder in the first game. And even then, Young probably doesn't field them cleanly. Hardly talking up the Texas defense. More like giving you a realistic point of view.

/games played in April count just as much in the win & loss columns as games played at other times in the season.
 
2012-04-23 04:41:01 PM

bhcompy: 4NTLRZ: And while Fielder was really out of position on that play, it was that rookie pitcher, Weber, who screwed the pooch. It's his responsibility to cover 1st in that situation & he was totally caugh off-guard. But Leyland is the one who put a rookie reliever in that situation, bringing another concern to the table for Detroit: Crazy old man does crazy old man shiat.

A good manager puts his rookie in tough situations in April so that come October they're used to it.

Ultimately, you're completely overthinking a few games in April. Yes, Detroit has fielding problems, but so have the Yankees for many years and they still manage to do remarkably well.

And please don't talk like the Rangers are great at defense. They have a very good outfield, but the 1b platoon is subpar(just like Detroit), Kinsler is meh, Michael Young played the field more than half the games last year and a third so far this year, Beltre is hurt(Gonzalez is no defensive stud), and Andrus makes a ton of errors


I'd say Kinsler is one of the top 2nd basemen in baseball, and Andrus committed too many errors last season but he's definitely no slouch... If Beltre can stay healthy the Rangers have one of the better defenses in the league IMO... To me they look weak at 1b and left field, but above par everywhere else. Even though Young is dusty and decrepit he's a good backup.
 
2012-04-23 05:00:54 PM

knight_on_the_rail: bhcompy: 4NTLRZ: I'd say Kinsler is one of the top 2nd basemen in baseball, and Andrus committed too many errors last season but he's definitely no slouch... If Beltre can stay healthy the Rangers have one of the better defenses in the league IMO... To me they look weak at 1b and left field, but above par everywhere else. Even though Young is dusty and decrepit he's a good backup.


^THIS^

Thanks for chiming in on the Texas D. I'd have touched on the topic, but bhcompy asked me not to do so, and he said "please". Is Texas the best D going? Far from it. But, they're a far cry from that abortion they have in Detroit.

And what's with meanmutton? I really don't think he (or she) even watched the game. Plus 3 Internets for knowing the rule on a bunt in a 2 strike count. Minus eleventy Internets for not knowing that was the first pitch in the Gonzales at-bat in the 11th.

And can someone tell me what the fark "LOTSCWYWIE" means? Does it mean, Less often than seldom cool with you weiners in email? It doesn't make sense to me. Would that mean that someone is asking for WIE?

NTTAWWT, I guess.
Each to their own.
 
2012-04-23 05:21:44 PM

4NTLRZ: knight_on_the_rail: bhcompy: 4NTLRZ: I'd say Kinsler is one of the top 2nd basemen in baseball, and Andrus committed too many errors last season but he's definitely no slouch... If Beltre can stay healthy the Rangers have one of the better defenses in the league IMO... To me they look weak at 1b and left field, but above par everywhere else. Even though Young is dusty and decrepit he's a good backup.

^THIS^

Thanks for chiming in on the Texas D. I'd have touched on the topic, but bhcompy asked me not to do so, and he said "please". Is Texas the best D going? Far from it. But, they're a far cry from that abortion they have in Detroit.

And what's with meanmutton? I really don't think he (or she) even watched the game. Plus 3 Internets for knowing the rule on a bunt in a 2 strike count. Minus eleventy Internets for not knowing that was the first pitch in the Gonzales at-bat in the 11th.

And can someone tell me what the fark "LOTSCWYWIE" means? Does it mean, Less often than seldom cool with you weiners in email? It doesn't make sense to me. Would that mean that someone is asking for WIE?

NTTAWWT, I guess.
Each to their own.


He was probably the guy sitting behind home plate for the saturday night game incessantly yelling at the batter during every pitch delivered to a Ranger. Had to lower the volume to stop from going crazy. Made it better that it looked like his kid was sitting next to him in a Tigers costume and started doing the same shiat after a while. Worldpeace would have socked the guy if he'd struck out a couple of times.
 
2012-04-23 05:27:47 PM

knight_on_the_rail: I'd say Kinsler is one of the top 2nd basemen in baseball, and Andrus committed too many errors last season but he's definitely no slouch... If Beltre can stay healthy the Rangers have one of the better defenses in the league IMO... To me they look weak at 1b and left field, but above par everywhere else. Even though Young is dusty and decrepit he's a good backup.


Offensive, yes, defensive, ehhh. Fact is Beltre and Kinsler miss tons of games a year and Napoli, Young, and Gonzalez are all below average defensively in range and ability, Young more than others and he's the INF utility guy(though maybe it's Gonzalez this year? He's played all but 1B in his career), which means that there are a ton of games to spread around below average fielders. Moreland is pretty good defensively, but only plays half the games and hits like a girl, basically Casey Kotchman redux. Andrus may be supremely talented, but he was 2nd to last in fielding% and 2nd most in errors last year, middle of the pack the year before that, and back to second most in errors and 5th to last in fielding% before that. Andrus has great range, but he makes a lot of mistakes, kind of like Erick Aybar(who finally had a good year fieldingwise last year, his 6th in the league)
 
2012-04-23 05:42:00 PM
hm.. this gonna be the Yankees-Rangers thread if we don't get a better one?
 
2012-04-23 06:02:38 PM

The Bestest: hm.. this gonna be the Yankees-Rangers thread if we don't get a better one?


YOU KNOW DAMN RIGHT, farkING GUY!
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//how's it going, man?
 
2012-04-23 06:12:12 PM

bhcompy: knight_on_the_rail:Moreland is pretty good defensively... and hits like a girl...


You know how I know you haven't watched many Ranger games? C'mon, man. You're better than that.

/yours was a really uninformed sounding statement
 
2012-04-23 07:08:20 PM

4NTLRZ: The Bestest: hm.. this gonna be the Yankees-Rangers thread if we don't get a better one?

YOU KNOW DAMN RIGHT, farkING GUY!
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/obscure?
//how's it going, man?


well, we can use this or hijack either the Ripken or Tigers threads
 
2012-04-24 10:20:37 AM

The Bestest: 4NTLRZ: The Bestest: hm.. this gonna be the Yankees-Rangers thread if we don't get a better one?

YOU KNOW DAMN RIGHT, farkING GUY!
[cdn0.hark.com image 480x360]
/obscure?
//how's it going, man?

well, we can use this or hijack either the Ripken or Tigers threads


Man, took the kids to the game & all I can really say is, damnitsofarkingmuch! Holland just makes me crazy sometimes. He made it hard for his team by getting behind in the count, walking batters & making mistakes... that were subsequently knocked all over the park. But, that's the Yankees; make a mistake and they knock the shiat out of it. Sometimes, you just gotta lay a turd, I guess.

Aside from the throwing error on the short-hop to 1st, Jeter had a helluva game.
 
2012-04-24 10:34:16 AM

4NTLRZ: Man, took the kids to the game & all I can really say is, damnitsofarkingmuch! Holland just makes me crazy sometimes. He made it hard for his team by getting behind in the count, walking batters & making mistakes... that were subsequently knocked all over the park. But, that's the Yankees; make a mistake and they knock the shiat out of it. Sometimes, you just gotta lay a turd, I guess.

Aside from the throwing error on the short-hop to 1st, Jeter had a helluva game.


Tonight should be interesting. Will mark only the 7th time in MLB history that two Japanese-born pitchers will start against each other.
 
2012-04-24 11:09:43 AM

The Bestest: 4NTLRZ: Man, took the kids to the game & all I can really say is, damnitsofarkingmuch! Holland just makes me crazy sometimes. He made it hard for his team by getting behind in the count, walking batters & making mistakes... that were subsequently knocked all over the park. But, that's the Yankees; make a mistake and they knock the shiat out of it. Sometimes, you just gotta lay a turd, I guess.

Aside from the throwing error on the short-hop to 1st, Jeter had a helluva game.

Tonight should be interesting. Will mark only the 7th time in MLB history that two Japanese-born pitchers will start against each other.


Very interesting factoid!
 
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