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(NYPost)   The "everyone's a winner" mentality is now bleeding over to college   (nypost.com) divider line 123
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2012-04-22 11:42:18 AM
funny article, the onion!
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-04-22 11:51:24 AM
In my day we talked to each other in person and learned where classmates were going to college.
 
2012-04-22 12:23:11 PM
wonderworlds.org

It's becoming a damned blizzard!
 
2012-04-22 12:26:25 PM
Sometimes I'm really glad life kicked the shiat out of me through my teens and early twenties. I learned the lesson early on that life isn't fair and you have to roll with the punches. And I feel sorry for kids growing up in this bubblewrap enviornment. Getting rejected from someone they have a crush on or losing a job for the first time is going to be a disaster.
 
2012-04-22 12:47:30 PM
Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where they were at some woman's house where everyone was watching a marathon out the window.

"...show a little respect. For I am Costanza, Lord of the Idiots"

the marathoners run by

Some chick: "You're all winners!!"

"...and yet a new challenger emerges."
 
2012-04-22 01:29:01 PM
i.imgur.com

"I know we were 'all too competitive' this year, but I just want to say that if it hadn't been for 'Diane Court', I probably wouldn't have gotten into Cornell, because you made me study twice as hard. So thanks."


/In my day we fapped at Ione Skye's fellowship while going to state schools. And we liked it.
 
2012-04-22 01:34:04 PM
No posting on facebook? So this will spare the snowflake's feelings for an extra what, 45 minutes?
 
2012-04-22 01:34:16 PM
Because if we've learned anything in the last decade and a half, its that we need MORE of this behavior.
 
2012-04-22 01:37:22 PM
Once you've been actually suicidal you learn some things aren't worth being suicidal over.

/this is one of them
//oh no, someone got into a better school than me!
///oh no, someone got a better scholarship than me!
////oh no, someone got a better job than me!
 
2012-04-22 01:37:46 PM
Looks like University of Illinois!
 
2012-04-22 01:40:34 PM
Pretty sure the article was about high school.
 
2012-04-22 01:41:29 PM
ChuDogg: Pretty sure the article was about high school.

Subby's still a winner.
 
2012-04-22 01:42:58 PM
ZAZ: In my day we talked to each other in person and learned where classmates were going to college.

Be careful with that sass, the next step from this would be detention or suspension for talking about it in school hallways (where others could hear and get disappointed). Basically they'll make it a high enough punishment that you could lose your college scholarship for just telling someone you are happy you worked hard all these years and succeeded.
 
2012-04-22 01:43:56 PM
ChuDogg: Pretty sure the article was about high school.

No. The article was about those high falutin prep schools where all the sissy mary rich kids go to.
 
2012-04-22 01:46:20 PM
We really have become a nation of sissies and wusses
 
2012-04-22 01:46:33 PM
Screw this! If I get into an uber-school, it's because my grades are good, NOT because my parents have money. Tell YOU? I'm telling EVERYBODY!!

/sophomore in college.
//At 40.
 
2012-04-22 01:47:00 PM
Do these guidelines cover lying? I would wear shirts of schools I didn't get into. Every day I would tell the story about how excited I am to attend (Harvard, Stanford, etc, etc).
 
2012-04-22 01:48:03 PM
Making more of our kids unemployable
 
2012-04-22 01:49:16 PM
Is "Juicy" still allowed across the butt?
 
2012-04-22 01:49:36 PM
ZAZ: In my day we talked to each other in person and learned where classmates were going to college.

You're going to actually talk to people?
Commie
 
2012-04-22 01:50:09 PM
With random picture of Animal House to reinforce the point(not sure which point)
 
2012-04-22 01:50:48 PM
Solty Dog: Is "Juicy" still allowed across the butt?

No, but "Pink" is
 
2012-04-22 01:51:38 PM
Trance750: We really have become a nation of sissies and wusses

this
 
2012-04-22 01:51:42 PM
This idea seems stupid on the surface, but I think it could be sort of interesting setting that May 1st date for everyone to let it all out on one day. I don't know if it would be better than the gradual trickle of news that it is now. It would just be different.

...and please be sensitive so that if you see someone crying, you refer them to the college-adviser office immediately.

Oh for fark's sake... Did nobody tell them that where they go for undergrad has virtually no impact on their future prospects? Cry me a river when you don't get into the right law school.
 
2012-04-22 01:55:19 PM
Disco's making a come back?
4.bp.blogspot.com

/Hot
//Chocolate
 
2012-04-22 01:55:37 PM
A NYPost article about how everything used to be better before old people got old?

Sooo... probably 95% bullshiat. But enjoy pretending the world was a better place and you were a tougher person back before you got all decrepit and senile.
 
2012-04-22 01:56:26 PM
Solty Dog: Is "Juicy" still allowed across the butt?

Only if it's not across the butt of some 60 year old granny or some 300 pound lardass
 
2012-04-22 01:57:26 PM
Which college you attended has little to do with your success as an adult. Sorry kids.

b- b- but ivy league! Guess what, no one really cares what school you went to because ultimately it really doesn't make a difference. It's a rich man's pissing match.
 
2012-04-22 01:59:28 PM
alwaysjaded: Sometimes I'm really glad life kicked the shiat out of me through my teens and early twenties. I learned the lesson early on that life isn't fair and you have to roll with the punches. And I feel sorry for kids growing up in this bubblewrap enviornment. Getting rejected from someone they have a crush on or losing a job for the first time is going to be a disaster.

That's when they go over the top and shoot up their office or a coffee shop before blowing their own head off. Darwinism, man.
 
2012-04-22 01:59:45 PM
Yes, let's please teach future generations that their success hurts other people's feelings.

How about teaching kids how to deal with disappointment and move on with their lives? I guess that would require too much effort. Let's just change the name of every college to "Harvard" so everyone is happy.
 
2012-04-22 02:00:48 PM
UCFRoadWarrior: Making more of our kids unemployable

Good, more jobs for the rest of us.
 
2012-04-22 02:00:51 PM
Prep schools in uniforms? My God, Beatrice, soon there will be Negoes on the wait staff.
 
2012-04-22 02:01:23 PM
FishyFred:

Oh for fark's sake... Did nobody tell them that where they go for undergrad has virtually no impact on their future prospects? Cry me a river when you don't get into the right law school.


Your undergrad institution DOES matter if you plan on going to grad school, med school, etc. In fact, I wish I had gone to a "better" school for undergrad than the state school I ended up going to.

\full-ride to a state school
\\probably would have gotten a full-ride to a private school if I had applied
\\\didn't have very good guidance counselors at my high school
 
2012-04-22 02:02:50 PM
FizixJunkee: FishyFred:

Oh for fark's sake... Did nobody tell them that where they go for undergrad has virtually no impact on their future prospects? Cry me a river when you don't get into the right law school.

Your undergrad institution DOES matter if you plan on going to grad school, med school, etc. In fact, I wish I had gone to a "better" school for undergrad than the state school I ended up going to.

\full-ride to a state school
\\probably would have gotten a full-ride to a private school if I had applied
\\\didn't have very good guidance counselors at my high school


Only if you plan to go to grad school directly after undergrad.
 
2012-04-22 02:03:19 PM
Screw this! If I get into an uber-school, it's because my parents have money NOT because my grades are good, . Tell YOU? I'm telling EVERYBODY!!

Cause it sucks to be poor.

And it's easier to attract the hot chicks when they think you're from an affluent background.
 
2012-04-22 02:03:27 PM
How the hell did you think Shrubya ever graduated? Certainly not in his intellectual merits.
 
2012-04-22 02:04:00 PM
TheShavingofOccam123: Prep schools in uniforms? My God, Beatrice, soon there will be Negoes on the wait staff.

Negoes? I hate those guys.
 
2012-04-22 02:04:34 PM
joonyer: Which college you attended has little to do with your success as an adult. Sorry kids.

b- b- but ivy league! Guess what, no one really cares what school you went to because ultimately it really doesn't make a difference. It's a rich man's pissing match.


If it's a rich man's pissing match, the success of these kids as adults is already assured. Maybe the schools just get tired of the last 2-3 months of the school year being kids doing victory laps around the room draped head-to-toe in their future college's insignia.
 
2012-04-22 02:06:15 PM
Note to kids: Life ain't fair, why do you think they make different bra sizes?
 
2012-04-22 02:08:59 PM
austin_millbarge: UCFRoadWarrior: Making more of our kids unemployable

Good, more jobs for the rest of us.


In the interest of self preservation, this. Given the current state of things, we'll all apparently have to keep working into our mid-80s. It'll be a nice feather in the cap that the incoming crop of fruit-puffs won't be able to handle any criticism or pressure.
 
2012-04-22 02:18:07 PM
Getting people to believe they are winners while actually losing is a sure way to make money. Stock markets, casinos, dead end office jobs.

The only way to win is to lose the game they want you to play. Then go make your own game.

/No, not you.
//The world needs it's office slaves.
 
2012-04-22 02:18:36 PM
There are douchebags that start wearing their college/university-branded apparel around their high school right after getting their acceptance letter? Wow.

It's too late for rules. If you've got students that display such hubris without shame and other students that are crying over it, you've essentially got a bunch of losers on both sides that no rule is going to fix.
 
2012-04-22 02:20:27 PM
Good luck going to a good grad school if you take more than a year or so off after undergrad.

Usually, you can only go down the list of schools as you move on to the next place. Your undergrad school needs to be at least as good as your grad school (though the grad school list is different, as many places have great grad departments sitting on top of garbage undergrad programs), and your faculty jobs will not be higher on the ladder than your grad department.

Med schools give a lot of weight to where you went for undergrad, and I would think that law schools would be similar (and I know it matters more for law school).

High school matters. I understand how that must suck for those who goofed off for four years, but that is life.
 
2012-04-22 02:20:33 PM
joonyer: Which college you attended has little to do with your success as an adult. Sorry kids.

b- b- but ivy league! Guess what, no one really cares what school you went to because ultimately it really doesn't make a difference. It's a rich man's pissing match.


This article was talking about the children of wealthy Manhattan-ites and for these kids that sentiment is not necessarily true. In many of the firms and careers their parents and friends' parents and parent's friends work in, having a degree from a prestigious school is almost as important as whose crotch-fruit they are. It's not that the firms necessarily think that all the kids being shait out of Harvard are all inherently better than the kids over at CUNY, but there are so many of them knocking on the door that it makes resume sifting so much easier. Also, clients love that crap. Mostly because the clients also went to those schools.
In short, for the lives that many of these kids are aspiring to when they are applying to college, being accepted into a high-status school is required.

/this does not diminish the tedious and unnecessary nature of the whining reported by the article.
 
2012-04-22 02:22:07 PM
Facebook guidelines barring excited seniors from broadcasting their acceptance to top-tier colleges because it would hurt their classmates' feelings.

i1217.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-22 02:27:18 PM
NetOwl: Good luck going to a good grad school if you take more than a year or so off after undergrad.

Usually, you can only go down the list of schools as you move on to the next place. Your undergrad school needs to be at least as good as your grad school (though the grad school list is different, as many places have great grad departments sitting on top of garbage undergrad programs), and your faculty jobs will not be higher on the ladder than your grad department.

Med schools give a lot of weight to where you went for undergrad, and I would think that law schools would be similar (and I know it matters more for law school).

High school matters. I understand how that must suck for those who goofed off for four years, but that is life.


Law schools care about undergraduate schools only after sifting through the almighty LSAT/GPA numbers. It's all about the numbers then the 'soft' factors like where you went to school.
 
2012-04-22 02:30:30 PM
Gotta love the world of progressives where success is something to be ashamed of.
 
2012-04-22 02:33:31 PM
wildcardjack: Getting people to believe they are winners while actually losing is a sure way to make money. Stock markets, casinos, dead end office jobs.

The only way to win is to lose the game they want you to play. Then go make your own game.

/No, not you.
//The world needs it's office slaves.


This.

Work hard! Compete! Do the type of things we want you to do! Oh, are you still unhappy? Well, perhaps you need to work more. If you had just a bit more money you would be able to buy more stuff, and surely that will make you happy. Oh, and take these prescription pills, they're good for you.
 
2012-04-22 02:34:01 PM
The "everyone's a winner" mentality is now bleeding over to college

or is it...

The everyone's a wiener mentality is now bleeding over to college

or

The everyone's a whiner mentality is now bleeding over to college
 
2012-04-22 02:34:19 PM
joonyer: Which college you attended has little to do with your success as an adult. Sorry kids.

Agreed.

b- b- but ivy league! Guess what, no one really cares what school you went to because ultimately it really doesn't make a difference. It's a rich man's pissing match.

I would so love to have you chat with my last manager. He determined EVERYthing (who got to go to training, who got access to resources, who got what for a merit increase) based on where you went to school. I thought it was absolutely stupid.

I had the great pleasure to have him admit it in front of HR during my exit interview (after being told that I was making it up, despite having a half-dozen current employees validate the claim to HR, and providing several e-mails where he said that someone got screwed because "he didn't go to a big name college, therefore he wouldn't know what to do with the opportunity"). Best part of the interview was when he made the same comment to me, and kept ranting about it to the point where the HR rep had to physically cover his mouth with her hand because he was handing me a lawsuit.

They eventually fired him, but that was my last day with that company.

/went to Ivy League school for two of the three graduate degrees
//it's all about what you make of the education, not where you went
///best bombshell of the exit interview was when aforementioned manager and HR rep figured out that I was related to one of the corporate execs... the backpedaling and ass-kissing would have been hillarious if it wasn't so sad
////still left, and took my slashies with me
 
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