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(Portland Press Herald)   Good news: New technology lets anyone become a storm chaser. Bed news: ANYONE can become a storm chaser. "There were morons out there. There were plenty"   (pressherald.com) divider line 114
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2012-04-22 07:53:46 AM
Why is everyone getting worked up. This is clearly a self correcting problem.

Besides, think of all the great video we could get. Give them a helmet mount GoPro and then recover the footage when we find their body.
 
2012-04-22 08:16:26 AM
I don't care if some hillbilly wants to Darwin his family "so's we can get little Earnhardt's picture with a ternader what for the Facebook," but when some poor 19-year-old National Guardsman has to risk HIS life to get that brain-dead family out then it's everyone's problem.
 
2012-04-22 08:20:38 AM
If they are chasing storms from their beds, how is it anyone's problem?
 
2012-04-22 08:40:20 AM
Some of the people quoted in the article are contributing to the problem as well. And they have the nerve to believe they're above themselves? Cabbage muffs all of them!
 
2012-04-22 09:15:01 AM
cheap_thoughts: Some of the people quoted in the article are contributing to the problem as well. And they have the nerve to believe they're above themselves? Cabbage muffs all of them!

One of those dumb shows on cable had guys trashing each other over their relative qualifications be be driving around after tornadoes, as if that rally required a PhD in meteorology. These guys were all idiots.
 
2012-04-22 09:22:25 AM
Bed news? Whar is the Bed news!!! WHAR!@
 
2012-04-22 09:35:43 AM
labman: If they are chasing storms from their beds, how is it anyone's problem?

1.bp.blogspot.com

Bed news for wicked witches, I suppose.
 
2012-04-22 10:11:41 AM
Mr. Coffee Nerves: "so's we can get little Earnhardt's picture with a ternader what for the Facebook,"

Was I supposed to read that in Cletus's voice? Because I totally did.
 
2012-04-22 10:32:25 AM
I read that in Larry the Cable Guy's voice.
 
2012-04-22 10:32:34 AM
I grew up in the midwest, when it was still considered smart to seek shelter during tornadoes unless you were TRAINED EMERGENCY PERSONNEL. Not some effing halfwit storm chaser and his $200,000 tardmobile.

I would be in favor of laws making it illegal to be on the road unless you were running from a storm or seeking cover, or part of emergency rescue.

Storm chasing is a dumbass hobby and people can and do get hurt, and not just the ones doing it.
 
2012-04-22 10:35:28 AM
How soon they forget that they were rookie morons when they first started out...eh, they probably still are.
 
2012-04-22 10:35:53 AM
Generation_D: I would be in favor of laws making it illegal to be on the road unless you were running from a storm or seeking cover, or part of emergency rescue.

Well that would be a stupid law.
 
2012-04-22 10:39:50 AM
cheap_thoughts: Some of the people quoted in the article are contributing to the problem as well. And they have the nerve to believe they're above themselves? Cabbage muffs all of them!

You haven't been in one of these threads before. Any minute now, some Junior Tornado Ranger will be in here talking about how their efforts SAVE LIVES DAMNIT AND THE SCIENTISTS DON'T OWN NATURE!
 
2012-04-22 10:40:16 AM
I blame movies for this. Releasing movies like twister creates a feeling in people that makes it seem ok to get that close to one. I think we should ban disaster movies.
 
2012-04-22 10:40:45 AM
Generation_D: I grew up in the midwest, when it was still considered smart to seek shelter during tornadoes unless you were TRAINED EMERGENCY PERSONNEL. Not some effing halfwit storm chaser and his $200,000 tardmobile.

I would be in favor of laws making it illegal to be on the road unless you were running from a storm or seeking cover, or part of emergency rescue.

Storm chasing is a dumbass hobby and people can and do get hurt, and not just the ones doing it.


Simple solution - mandatory lockdown when any storm is possible? Get to the approved shelters citizen!
 
2012-04-22 10:41:31 AM
As someone who had been really close to getting hit by tornados on several occasions, anyone who would intentionally go looking for them needs a good swift cock punch.
 
2012-04-22 10:41:44 AM
Could we have a new Twister movie where all the stupid people get killed off in various funny and bizarre ways, ala "Scary Movie"?
 
2012-04-22 10:42:00 AM
"Jo. Things go wrong. You can't explain it, you can't predict it. Killing yourself wo'nt bring your dad back. I'm sorry that he died, but that was a long time ago. You gotta move on. Stop living in the past, and look what you got right in front of you."

They're all just trying to channel their guilt because Daddy died during the twister and they didn't.
 
2012-04-22 10:43:49 AM
runescorpio: I blame movies for this. Releasing movies like twister creates a feeling in people that makes it seem ok to get that close to one. I think we should ban disaster movies.

No! If we banned disaster movies I wouldn't have seen The Day After Tomorrow and learned you can outrun the temperature!
 
2012-04-22 10:46:09 AM
AbbeySomeone: Generation_D: I grew up in the midwest, when it was still considered smart to seek shelter during tornadoes unless you were TRAINED EMERGENCY PERSONNEL. Not some effing halfwit storm chaser and his $200,000 tardmobile.

I would be in favor of laws making it illegal to be on the road unless you were running from a storm or seeking cover, or part of emergency rescue.

Storm chasing is a dumbass hobby and people can and do get hurt, and not just the ones doing it.

Simple solution - mandatory lockdown when any storm is possible? Get to the approved shelters citizen!


Seriously. Sirens go off in every city in the county if a tornado is spotted in any part of the county. So now I'm going to be ticketed for driving on the road because a supercell clipped the county border 40 miles away? It just sounds like an opportunity for local police to raise revenue on a ticketing spree every time we get a thunderstorm in the summer. Will they be enforcing the law during every severe storm watch? It will be illegal to drive for 25% of the summer.

Great idea.
 
2012-04-22 10:48:48 AM
Darwin cackles and rubs his hands together furiously in anticipatory glee.
 
2012-04-22 10:50:03 AM
Crosshair: Why is everyone getting worked up. This is clearly a self correcting problem.

Some of us are actual trained storm chasers...

There's a big difference. When we go out, we don't intentionally put ourselves in harm's way - we put ourselves in a position to watch the storm without running stupid risks.

If any idiot can do it, they're endangering themselves and others around them.

/to be completely fair, I haven't done it in a long time...
 
2012-04-22 10:52:19 AM
[Rant]
I honestly think some of this is Weather Channel programming. For example, right now The Weather Channel in the North East is running this "OMG! WESTERN NEW YORK IS GONNA DIE FROM A SNOWSTORM! POWER LINES WILL BE DOWN! TREES WILL FALL! ARRGHHH!" programming, even going so far as to have the weather channel spokesmodels complain on the air that none of the local papers had the weather on the front page this morning...when NOAA has already downgraded the forecast to "meh, Buffalo might get 2 inches of snow over the next 36 hours, but the lake is 46 degrees and it's going to melt, but it might be slippery driving for a while."
What we have is WALL TO WALL coverage of Aprilsnowaggedon, and what we're getting is a rainstorm with some flakes, but flurries of weather reporters incoming.
Eventually I think everyone is going to realize the weather channel is full of shiat, and this storm chasing, every storm is the storm of the century, every tornado is the tornado that ended the world, let's wreck our car in the hailstorm fashion thing will be seen as the silly fad it is, and the silly fad THEY STARTED.
[/Rant]
 
2012-04-22 10:53:17 AM
reillan: When we go out, we don't intentionally put ourselves in harm's way - we put ourselves in a position to watch the storm without running stupid risks.

If any idiot can do it, they're endangering themselves and others around them.


It does remind me of the scene in Jaws where the Amity dock is filled with every redneck moron within 50 miles trying to kill the shark for the reward money.
 
2012-04-22 10:53:19 AM
Mentat: cheap_thoughts: Some of the people quoted in the article are contributing to the problem as well. And they have the nerve to believe they're above themselves? Cabbage muffs all of them!

You haven't been in one of these threads before. Any minute now, some Junior Tornado Ranger will be in here talking about how their efforts SAVE LIVES DAMNIT AND THE SCIENTISTS DON'T OWN NATURE!


And how exactly does that differ from what the "professionals" would say?
 
2012-04-22 10:54:01 AM
runescorpio: I blame movies for this. Releasing movies like twister creates a feeling in people that makes it seem ok to get that close to one. I think we should ban disaster crappy movies.

FTFY
 
2012-04-22 10:54:03 AM
AbbeySomeone: Generation_D: I grew up in the midwest, when it was still considered smart to seek shelter during tornadoes unless you were TRAINED EMERGENCY PERSONNEL. Not some effing halfwit storm chaser and his $200,000 tardmobile.

I would be in favor of laws making it illegal to be on the road unless you were running from a storm or seeking cover, or part of emergency rescue.

Storm chasing is a dumbass hobby and people can and do get hurt, and not just the ones doing it.

Simple solution - mandatory lockdown when any storm is possible? Get to the approved shelters citizen!


Its how things used to be. If you weren't "emergency" or have a reason to be out, you were told turn around and go back. Now everyone assumes its their right to do whatever the hell they want. If its a real emergency this is not helping.
 
2012-04-22 10:55:14 AM
I was under the impression that you could get get official storm-chasing documents. Allowing you to exceed the speed limit, "authorizing" you to turn around in limited access highway medians.

Is this a state-by-state thing, does anyone know? It doesn't tornado where I am often enough for anyone to chase locally.
 
2012-04-22 10:56:30 AM
Mr. Coffee Nerves: I don't care if some hillbilly wants to Darwin his family "so's we can get little Earnhardt's picture with a ternader what for the Facebook," but when some poor 19-year-old National Guardsman has to risk HIS life to get that brain-dead family out then it's everyone's problem.

Ternadet...i lol'd
 
2012-04-22 10:58:02 AM
SwiftFox: I was under the impression that you could get get official storm-chasing documents. Allowing you to exceed the speed limit, "authorizing" you to turn around in limited access highway medians.

Is this a state-by-state thing, does anyone know? It doesn't tornado where I am often enough for anyone to chase locally.


I've never heard of this and a Google search comes up with nothing. Where exactly did you hear about this?
 
2012-04-22 10:58:28 AM
LabGrrl: [Rant]
I honestly think some of this is Weather Channel programming. For example, right now The Weather Channel in the North East is running this "OMG! WESTERN NEW YORK IS GONNA DIE FROM A SNOWSTORM! POWER LINES WILL BE DOWN! TREES WILL FALL! ARRGHHH!" programming, even going so far as to have the weather channel spokesmodels complain on the air that none of the local papers had the weather on the front page this morning...when NOAA has already downgraded the forecast to "meh, Buffalo might get 2 inches of snow over the next 36 hours, but the lake is 46 degrees and it's going to melt, but it might be slippery driving for a while."
What we have is WALL TO WALL coverage of Aprilsnowaggedon, and what we're getting is a rainstorm with some flakes, but flurries of weather reporters incoming.
Eventually I think everyone is going to realize the weather channel is full of shiat, and this storm chasing, every storm is the storm of the century, every tornado is the tornado that ended the world, let's wreck our car in the hailstorm fashion thing will be seen as the silly fad it is, and the silly fad THEY STARTED.
[/Rant]


To be fair, Home Despot needs the sales.
 
2012-04-22 10:59:17 AM
Hey guys don't go out during tornadoes because it's dangerous to the people who go out during tornadoes.
 
2012-04-22 10:59:30 AM
Can't they just stay home and watch Alien Tornado on SyFy?

/Next week: Space Twister!
 
2012-04-22 11:00:12 AM
Has any non-professional ever been killed or even hurt chasing a storm? I really don't think these gawkers are getting in anyone's way. My impression of some volunteer emergency responders is that they feel pretty full of themselves and don't want anyone horning in on their action, especially the general public. Makes them feel a little less special.
 
2012-04-22 11:00:15 AM
reillan: Some of us are actual trained storm chasers...

There's a big difference. When we go out, we don't intentionally put ourselves in harm's way


You are probably right. I'm sure those amateurs are intentionally putting themselves in harm's way. I'm not sure I would be willing to admit that I was so stupid as to require specific training to keep me from intentionally putting myself in danger though. I suppose nobody ever accused storm chasers of being smart.

And you forgot to mention all of the lives you have saved with your bravery.
 
2012-04-22 11:01:06 AM
runescorpio: I blame movies for this. Releasing movies like twister creates a feeling in people that makes it seem ok to get that close to one. I think we should ban disaster movies.



You assume that people actually saw said movie. If I remember correctly it was unwatchable.
 
2012-04-22 11:01:42 AM
SwiftFox: I was under the impression that you could get get official storm-chasing documents. Allowing you to exceed the speed limit, "authorizing" you to turn around in limited access highway medians.

Is this a state-by-state thing, does anyone know? It doesn't tornado where I am often enough for anyone to chase locally.


Yep, it's true. I can expidite the required documentation and permits for a fee $149 + shipping, good in all 50 states and most of Canada (docs are in English.)

It's a yearly thing so you'd have to renew in January. Let me know, EIP
 
2012-04-22 11:02:14 AM
umad: reillan: Some of us are actual trained storm chasers...

There's a big difference. When we go out, we don't intentionally put ourselves in harm's way

You are probably right. I'm sure those amateurs are intentionally putting themselves in harm's way. I'm not sure I would be willing to admit that I was so stupid as to require specific training to keep me from intentionally putting myself in danger though. I suppose nobody ever accused storm chasers of being smart.

And you forgot to mention all of the lives you have saved with your bravery.


zing
 
2012-04-22 11:03:42 AM
We have cotton batting wrapped lives, and every exciting thing is packaged for us by the TV overlords, so seeing something real must have appeal. Me? Hey, I KNOW I can be killed, tornados, hurricanes, floods, earthquakes and the like don't have much interest for me, I'd rather be safe somewhere else.

I was in Rockford, IL, when Beloit took a big one. We were in the basement in the storm shelter, not driving around looking for trouble. Sheesh.
 
2012-04-22 11:04:21 AM
itsajungleboy: Has any non-professional ever been killed or even hurt chasing a storm? I really don't think these gawkers are getting in anyone's way.

The complaints I'm aware of are usually about chasers creating traffic problems as they scramble to chase a storm they'll never catch up with, rather than some dramatic event like a tornado picking up and throwing their vehicle.

My impression of some volunteer emergency responders is that they feel pretty full of themselves and don't want anyone horning in on their action, especially the general public. Makes them feel a little less special.

That sounds like baseless conjecture.
 
2012-04-22 11:05:20 AM
Grew up in Kansas. My kids still ask me if I've ever seen a tornado. I tell them the smart rednecks make it a point NOT to see them- we go to the shelter. Our less intelligent cousins feed the maw of Darwin.

In one single tornado where I couldn't take shelter. I don't remember the fun. Farking terror is more like it.

About 20 years ago I remember the Air Force did prosecute a group of airmen for taking videos of a tornado instead of taking shelter at McConnell AFB in Wichita. If you belong to Uncle Sam he gets testy if you want to disobey orders and endanger government property. Guess we can't do anything about the stupid civilians- maybe child endangerment at best.
 
2012-04-22 11:05:22 AM
LouDobbsAwaaaay: SwiftFox: I was under the impression that you could get get official storm-chasing documents. Allowing you to exceed the speed limit, "authorizing" you to turn around in limited access highway medians.

Is this a state-by-state thing, does anyone know? It doesn't tornado where I am often enough for anyone to chase locally.

I've never heard of this and a Google search comes up with nothing. Where exactly did you hear about this?


Not sure really. Nova? National Geographic? Anyway, TV documentary about a guy who had a Doppler radar unit on a vehicle and trying to get very up close images of tornadoes to find out why they form.
 
2012-04-22 11:07:12 AM
LabGrrl: [Rant]
I honestly think some of this is Weather Channel programming. For example, right now The Weather Channel in the North East is running this "OMG! WESTERN NEW YORK IS GONNA DIE FROM A SNOWSTORM! POWER LINES WILL BE DOWN! TREES WILL FALL! ARRGHHH!" programming, even going so far as to have the weather channel spokesmodels complain on the air that none of the local papers had the weather on the front page this morning...when NOAA has already downgraded the forecast to "meh, Buffalo might get 2 inches of snow over the next 36 hours, but the lake is 46 degrees and it's going to melt, but it might be slippery driving for a while."
What we have is WALL TO WALL coverage of Aprilsnowaggedon, and what we're getting is a rainstorm with some flakes, but flurries of weather reporters incoming.
Eventually I think everyone is going to realize the weather channel is full of shiat, and this storm chasing, every storm is the storm of the century, every tornado is the tornado that ended the world, let's wreck our car in the hailstorm fashion thing will be seen as the silly fad it is, and the silly fad THEY STARTED.
[/Rant]




GUSTY BREEZE 2012!!
Are YOU prepared???
 
2012-04-22 11:08:03 AM
Mr.Hawk: runescorpio: I blame movies for this. Releasing movies like twister creates a feeling in people that makes it seem ok to get that close to one. I think we should ban disaster movies.

You assume that people actually saw said movie. If I remember correctly it was unwatchable.

Twister
was the second-biggest hit movie of 1996. The first was Independence Day, which goes further to show your correlation between a film's quality and people seeing it is a bit flawed.
 
2012-04-22 11:08:39 AM
A couple or three years back a tornado cell went crawling down through central Nebraska. It was moving so slowly, and the funnels it dropped were so consistent and stable, that you could crawl along behind it or beside it and get really quite close. It even followed a highway for about an hour. Those are the ones to chase. It's the ones that wander and throw down cat tail funnels that scare the bejeezus out of you. Don't chase without a gazetteer, your tires in good shape, and the car radio on.

/Done spotting and chasing.
//Mighty good times.
///Took weather hazard classes.
 
2012-04-22 11:08:40 AM
Next up: outlawing surfing in advance of a hurricane, unless you're trained.
 
2012-04-22 11:09:04 AM
LouDobbsAwaaaay: It does remind me of the scene in Jaws where the Amity dock is filled with every redneck moron within 50 miles trying to kill the shark for the reward money.

I just found out, that a girl got killed here last week, and you knew it! You knew there was a tornado out there! You knew it was dangerous! But you let people go storm chasing anyway? You knew all those things! But still my boy is dead now. And there's nothing you can do about it. My boy is dead. I wanted you to know that.
 
2012-04-22 11:09:05 AM
Kansas' Chancy Smith, the director of emergency medical services for Dickinson County -- raked by a series of tornadoes April 14 -- caused a minor storm of his own when, after the tornadoes, he publicly called the throng of chasers who flooded his county "morons" for risking their lives and possibly the lives of others by impeding emergency services.

Raked by quick rebuke, Smith...



Yeah! Nobody can criticize me for willfully endangering myself, my young children strapped into the back seat, and everyone around us, dagnabbit!! It's a free country!
 
2012-04-22 11:10:54 AM
SwiftFox: I was under the impression that you could get get official storm-chasing documents. Allowing you to exceed the speed limit, "authorizing" you to turn around in limited access highway medians.

Is this a state-by-state thing, does anyone know? It doesn't tornado where I am often enough for anyone to chase locally.


Never heard of this. My dad was a storm chaser for the Sedgwick Co sheriff's dept in the 70s. He was a deputy and did take a few liberties with the speed limit. I went out with him and we chased with police radios and no doppler radar. What was done then was vital to safety- a storm spotter was the first warning. Probably a child endangerment charge in there somewhere but it was kinda cool. I'm guessing what you are talking about are LEOs.
 
2012-04-22 11:12:06 AM
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