whats that in her nose? it looks like she should pick the dam thing

Pert: Coming on a Bicycle: Wow, she prevented a real crime! A real, real, eh.. violent? no, financial? no, eh.. some eh.. crime, she prevented. Or something. A guy with his penis hanging out. Well, anyway, what a heroine!

So you are in favour of letting people masturbate in front of anybody they want to?

4/21! Legalize it!

the_celt: "Strap hanging She-Hulk"?
Sounds like a porn I do NOT want to watch.

I couldn't read the rest of the story after my brain changed that first sentence to "Strapon hanging She-Hulk"

\Reminds me I need to clear my browser history.

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Whoops.

doglover: She-Hulk is like the shiattiest character in Marvel vs Capcom. Thus, what could be a cool story is actually just a shiatty one now because of the association.

Now, if she had gone Morrigan Mode, we'd have a story... and a lot more cleavage.... and them little bat wings on her head. What are those anyway? Are they decorative? Are they wings? Ears? Seriously, what in ever loving fark are they?

I haven't played MvC, but She-Hulk's ultimate move should be filing a legal brief against her opponent. Ideally it would describe all the bad things they've done in their original source.

It looks like Fark just lost another member.

/what's his handle?
//good for her!

Welcome to Fark, where idiots abound.

You assholes seriously wouldn't help this girl? Or was it more apprehension that you may like what you see from the guy that flashed her? NTTAWWT, of course.

Basement dwellers would probably have an easier path to getting laid by helping women in those situations.

/just saying

Day_Old_Dutchie: She hulk?
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OMG is that Nancy Grace?

mainstreet62:


Basement dwellers would probably have an easier path to getting laid by helping women in those situations.


White knights actually believe this.

My father got into a confrontation in Penn Station. He was sitting in a group of connected seats when this man came up and sat next this woman,she got up and moved away from him. The man started to berate her for thinking she was something "special " ,than my dad age 76 told him "Sir you are out of line" he came over to where my dad sat and told him "I think i am going to kill you" My dad was so scared he rose up from the seat kicked him in the balls he fell down and as he curled up in a fetal position my dad kicked him several more times to make sure he wouldn't get up again.
The woman never thanked him she didn't want to be involved at all .When the police arrived some other woman testified that "he did right" and they let my dad go home without further delay.

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Atomic Spunk: So women will spend a lot of time and money to make themselves look attractive, but when a man demonstrates to her how attractive he finds her, she flips out and calls the cops.

He didn't. He didn't see 'her'. He saw an object. She could have been anybody. He had no discretion, and the important part is that he did it without her desire.

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Loucifer: Never mess with a redhead. If you're going to get all subway creepy, go for an Asian lady. They're too polite to make a scene. At least, that's what I am led to believe by a number of short documentary films I have seen on the subject.

It was an Asian-American chick who took that cell phone video a couple years ago to embarass and catch a subway pervert. He wouldn't stop. She took care of it herself. He may have gotten off by being on the news. Doesn't matter, he was officially caught.

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Skr: I wonder why none of the other guys on the train did anything. She looks decent enough to attract a white knight or two.


/I always thought that She-Hulk would make an awesome Midol spokeslady.
1) You raise a very good point, which in 50 comments (I'll pull up the second page now) STILL nhas not been dealt with, discussed, or even tackled. All I see, first 50 comments, is an attempt to start up a rehead thread (ie treating women like objects), discussions about how unattractive her nose ring is (ie treating a woman like an object by focusing on something unimportant), and lame discussions about stereotypical redhead behavior (again, treating a woman like an object instead of flesh and blood).

2) The implication that a woman has to be attractive in order to receive assistance is disturbing. The deeper implication that this woman could take care of herself, therefore she is not worthy of assisting is food for thought... but I have a feeling she would not have received help even if she were a mouse, meek and mild.

Why did no other dude (we'll leave women out for a moment) say, 'H ...

You're absolutely right, and thank you for posting this. I was thinking all the same things, and rolling my eyes over the irony of turning this into a "hot redhead" thread. I don't usually respond to this stuff on fark anymore, because the reaction tends to be immediate and VERY negative when someone actually points this stuff out.

My thought is that... for the most part, men don't seem to call each other out for stuff like this. It doesn't mean they don't think it's messed up. But for the most part, I just don't see the outrage. I have a lot of decent male friends that don't really see that they're doing this. They'll talk to me about all the things I can do to help keep myself from getting raped... but when they're sitting around a group of guys talking about objectifying women and saying really vulgar things... silence. They'll tell ME about it later, and when I ask why they didn't speak up, there's always a reason that seems to relate to "I was just uncomfortable."

It seems like when men deal with other men, there's a potential for threat that they just don't see from women. So you get the victim-blaming dialogue where people will lecture women, but not men. It's really frustrating.

In this case, there was probably also that weird "bystander syndrome" happening. But as a couple of the comments on this thread make clear, some men aren't even really sure why this behavior is threatening. That really bothers me.

BurnShrike: Fake fake fake.

She's not a real redhead. She's a bottle redhead. Look at her brown roots

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I bet the penis the guy showed her wasn't even real either.

She's still crazy, so she gets to be an honorary redhead anyway. Maybe she's a transhaircolorist?

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Atomic Spunk: So women will spend a lot of time and money to make themselves look attractive, but when a man demonstrates to her how attractive he finds her, she flips out and calls the cops.

He didn't. He didn't see 'her'. He saw an object. She could have been anybody. He had no discretion, and the important part is that he did it without her desire.

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Loucifer: Never mess with a redhead. If you're going to get all subway creepy, go for an Asian lady. They're too polite to make a scene. At least, that's what I am led to believe by a number of short documentary films I have seen on the subject.

It was an Asian-American chick who took that cell phone video a couple years ago to embarass and catch a subway pervert. He wouldn't stop. She took care of it herself. He may have gotten off by being on the news. Doesn't matter, he was officially caught.

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Skr: I wonder why none of the other guys on the train did anything. She looks decent enough to attract a white knight or two.


/I always thought that She-Hulk would make an awesome Midol spokeslady.
1) You raise a very good point, which in 50 comments (I'll pull up the second page now) STILL nhas not been dealt with, discussed, or even tackled. All I see, first 50 comments, is an attempt to start up a rehead thread (ie treating women like objects), discussions about how unattractive her nose ring is (ie treating a woman like an object by focusing on something unimportant), and lame discussions about stereotypical redhead behavior (again, treating a woman like an object instead of flesh and blood).

2) The implication that a woman has to be attractive in order to receive assistance is disturbing. The deeper implication that this woman could take care of herself, therefore she is not worthy of assisting is food for thought... but I have a feeling she would not have received help even if she were a mouse, meek and mild.

Why did no other dude (we'll leave women out for a moment) say, 'H ...

Interfering in business that isn't your own is an easy ticket to entanglements with crazy people, the police, missed appointments, and a big ol' hassle. You never know how criminals will act when things escalate. The saying is, "No good deed goes unpunished". "The nail that sticks up gets hammered.", etc. Whatever. If you throw the punch, you get charged with assault, to hell with mitigating circumstances, every witness will corroborate that you struck a person/grabbed a person who made no provocation toward you.

All excuses, but somewhere there is someone with a mark on his or her record and story to demonstrate how stepping up and being a hero caused more trouble than it was worth. Also lets not forget how assuming a person can't deal with their own shiat becasue they are a woman is inherently sexist.

i ride the T frequently. i'd jump in to protect someone from being assaulted or raped or whatever, but I'm not going to risk my neck over a dude who's exposing himself and whacking off.

WTF_Are_You_Looking_At: Diogenes The Cynic: So, men are expected to jump in, and solve womens problems because they expect them to? Uh-huh. Tell me more.

Exactly! Why should the men jump to her rescued from a perv?
After all, she is a modern independent woman, so deal with the perv herself
Women should follow her example and don't expect chivalry from men anymore..

Chivalry implies a quid pro quo that most modern women have already abandoned, so why should they expect it?

ElWampa: Howlin Mad Murphy: That guy had to be extremely weak.

Clearly he does not masturbate enough.

Nah. Shame on the biatch, muscling around a poor debilitated, weakened, hairy-palmed, blind man.

That's how it's done, ladies.
Take back you own night.

Sum_guy: How am I the first one to notice this?
The anonymous woman:
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Kari from mythbusters:
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The guy was... BUSTED!

They both have orange hair?

Facial piercing is getting way too out of control. I guess it's gone mainstream or something now like tat's.

shiat that pisses me off:

1) Girl with great rack who has a chest tattoo (Why? Great boobs are awesome enough, they don't need embelishment)

2) Pretty girls with facial piercings. Now, I'm not talking your garden variety plain janes. If they want to join the Hot Topic Mallternative Brigade, then fine - but girls with genuinely beautiful faces - it's like vandalizing a work of art.

Honestly, I think if young girls had more confidence and self esteem they wouldn't do stuff like this.

A redhead thread on the weekend, and so few pics? Fark, I am dissappoint.

fzumrk: A redhead thread on the weekend, and so few pics? Fark, I am dissappoint.
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that first one is a man.

Diogenes The Cynic: So, men are expected to jump in, and solve womens problems because they expect them to? Uh-huh. Tell me more.

Yes, actually. It's traditional. And we're expected to jump in and offer ice-cold sweet tea (or unsweet---we're supposed to ask first) and sammiches. Then we're supposed to consider with favor the guy asking us out OR

if we're too old or not to the guy's tastes, if we meet him again (the system was based on small town living where everyone knows everyone else) we're supposed to praise him to the skies for what a wonderful, sterling fellow he is when he asks out our cute sisters, daughters, friends, cousins, whatever female folk we have influence with that he shows an interest in.

That's the deal.

He white knights and jumps in and solves our problems, he either gets a date (without presumption of nookie) OR if he doesn't ask us out (or only asks once or twice and it goes nowhere) he's got us as a permanent ally in wooing our cute female contacts in the community.

The deal is we tell everybody female what a great fella he is. And when it comes from one of us, it somehow does not end up coming off as "nice guy = wuss = friend zone." Somehow it ends up coming off as "desirable dating material."

So yep. You're supposed to jump in and solve our problems. Out of sheer self-interest. But it really only works out for you in a situation where the word of mouth advertising is going to do you some good. And in a culture where the women are clued to and will uphold our end of the deal.

I can solve my own problems, but I don't take offense when a nice guy steps in and offers to solve them for me, under certain circumstances. He's not trained to think of the deal in explicit terms---nor are we women. But he is trained to a code of manners, and that's the exchange underlying it, and if he wants to help me, I can do my part and accept the help and then dutifully spread the word of what a great guy he is (if I get the chance).

He's not trying to imply I'm weak or incompetent, he's just being a good guy and playing the game the way he was taught. I'm happy enough to keep up my end of the deal---although at 45, my end of the deal is more likely to be advertising for him. :-)

I wonder what else she has pierced?

Julie Cochrane: So yep. You're supposed to jump in and solve our problems. Out of sheer self-interest. But it really only works out for you in a situation where the word of mouth advertising is going to do you some good. And in a culture where the women are clued to and will uphold our end of the deal.

So pretty much never in a city large enough for a train system, eh?

Also: fark that game, it is full of losers.

Those things are so farking unattractive.

redhead thread on fark. check
white knight trolls in force... check
resident AW's ... blank
hot redhead pics .... less than 10 wtf


alerting searchnfark boobie signal email



BIE need Firecrotch

eip

Ebenator: Those things are so farking unattractive.

Boobs? I love 'em. Big 'uns, small 'uns...you name it, I wanna see them!

/I'll be back
//hopefully after more hot red head pics show up.

Diogenes The Cynic: So, men are expected to jump in, and solve womens problems because they expect them to? Uh-huh. Tell me more.

No, people are expected to help a person if they see that person is in harm's way.

Or to put it another way, if a guy was getting mugged by knife point and a bunch of women armed with mace and tazers just up and walked past the scene, most people wouldn't be, "Well, you're a man. You should man up and beat up your mugger." They would be to the women, "Why didn't you help the guy out? A knife would have been no match for a tazer and mace."

Fecacacophany: Interfering in business that isn't your own is an easy ticket to entanglements with crazy people, the police, missed appointments, and a big ol' hassle. You never know how criminals will act when things escalate. The saying is, "No good deed goes unpunished". "The nail that sticks up gets hammered.", etc. Whatever. If you throw the punch, you get charged with assault, to hell with mitigating circumstances, every witness will corroborate that you struck a person/grabbed a person who made no provocation toward you.

All excuses, but somewhere there is someone with a mark on his or her record and story to demonstrate how stepping up and being a hero caused more trouble than it was worth. Also lets not forget how assuming a person can't deal with their own shiat becasue they are a woman is inherently sexist.

Given your post is all about you and how being a decent human is so inconvenient to all the important things your day entails, I'm sure you don't care about what I think of your lack of testosterone, but I think you are a self-centered wuss.

I'm no tough guy, but I was raised a little differently than most of what I'm reading from the guys in this thread. Wanker-boy should have been taken down by EVERYONE on that train car. And the police should have arrested him about 2 pints of blood lighter.

/not a cowboy, but raised with their code of honor
//would gladly miss appointments and/or get home late to do the right thing

ph0rk: Also: fark that game, it is full of losers.

That's what the loser says as he leaves the playing field, you know.

If Kari Byron and Uma Thurman had a daughter, this is what she would look like.

Someone needs to tell her she has boogies.

vodka: If Kari Byron and Uma Thurman had a daughter, this is what she would look like.

Someone needs to tell her she has boogies.

I will after I stop imagining Kari and Uma trying to make a baby...

So, pretty much, never.

CheatCommando: ph0rk: Also: fark that game, it is full of losers.

That's what the loser says as he leaves the playing field, you know.


Tell that to W.O.P.R.


/plenty of ladies out there that don't buy in to that ridiculous bullshiat.
//men, too.

Julie Cochrane: Diogenes The Cynic: So, men are expected to jump in, and solve womens problems because they expect them to? Uh-huh. Tell me more.

Yes, actually. It's traditional. And we're expected to jump in and offer ice-cold sweet tea (or unsweet---we're supposed to ask first) and sammiches. Then we're supposed to consider with favor the guy asking us out OR

if we're too old or not to the guy's tastes, if we meet him again (the system was based on small town living where everyone knows everyone else) we're supposed to praise him to the skies for what a wonderful, sterling fellow he is when he asks out our cute sisters, daughters, friends, cousins, whatever female folk we have influence with that he shows an interest in.

That's the deal.

He white knights and jumps in and solves our problems, he either gets a date (without presumption of nookie) OR if he doesn't ask us out (or only asks once or twice and it goes nowhere) he's got us as a permanent ally in wooing our cute female contacts in the community.

The deal is we tell everybody female what a great fella he is. And when it comes from one of us, it somehow does not end up coming off as "nice guy = wuss = friend zone." Somehow it ends up coming off as "desirable dating material."

So yep. You're supposed to jump in and solve our problems. Out of sheer self-interest. But it really only works out for you in a situation where the word of mouth advertising is going to do you some good. And in a culture where the women are clued to and will uphold our end of the deal.

I can solve my own problems, but I don't take offense when a nice guy steps in and offers to solve them for me, under certain circumstances. He's not trained to think of the deal in explicit terms---nor are we women. But he is trained to a code of manners, and that's the exchange underlying it, and if he wants to help me, I can do my part and accept the help and then dutifully spread the word of what a great guy he is (if I get the chance).

He's not trying to im ...

Somehow I doubt the frantically self-promoting and facially-pierced womyn from the article has made a sandwich for a man her whole life.

What you have described, while healthy and the way things are supposed to be, is in reality a fantasy from a bygone age.

In fact, there was never an age where a female like the one in the article would be white-knighted for. The facial piercing serves as a slut indicator, and she would have been treated like a prostitute. Which is exactly what the perv from the article was doing.

Julie Cochrane: Diogenes The Cynic: So, men are expected to jump in, and solve womens problems because they expect them to? Uh-huh. Tell me more.

Yes, actually. It's traditional. And we're expected to jump in and offer ice-cold sweet tea (or unsweet---we're supposed to ask first) and sammiches. Then we're supposed to consider with favor the guy asking us out OR

if we're too old or not to the guy's tastes, if we meet him again (the system was based on small town living where everyone knows everyone else) we're supposed to praise him to the skies for what a wonderful, sterling fellow he is when he asks out our cute sisters, daughters, friends, cousins, whatever female folk we have influence with that he shows an interest in.

That's the deal.

He white knights and jumps in and solves our problems, he either gets a date (without presumption of nookie) OR if he doesn't ask us out (or only asks once or twice and it goes nowhere) he's got us as a permanent ally in wooing our cute female contacts in the community.

The deal is we tell everybody female what a great fella he is. And when it comes from one of us, it somehow does not end up coming off as "nice guy = wuss = friend zone." Somehow it ends up coming off as "desirable dating material."

So yep. You're supposed to jump in and solve our problems. Out of sheer self-interest. But it really only works out for you in a situation where the word of mouth advertising is going to do you some good. And in a culture where the women are clued to and will uphold our end of the deal.

I can solve my own problems, but I don't take offense when a nice guy steps in and offers to solve them for me, under certain circumstances. He's not trained to think of the deal in explicit terms---nor are we women. But he is trained to a code of manners, and that's the exchange underlying it, and if he wants to help me, I can do my part and accept the help and then dutifully spread the word of what a great guy he is (if I get the chance).

He's not trying to im ...

Speaking from personal experience; having the world's older sisters/friends telling their younger sisters/friends that a guy is "great dating material", "nice", "sweet" is a MANDATORY prerequisite for that unfortunate bastard to join the express lane of entry to the 99th level of "the Eternal Friendzone". It is slightly more telling than getting this information from a grandmother or mother who just might be saying this for lack of not actually knowing that he is a "nice guy" and just saying that about any young man who shaves, smiles, and has a job. When older sis / friend says he's a "nice guy", the younger women know that a woman who is older than they are thought he was a catch, therefore he's too boring to date or sleep with.

So, ladies, help yourselves. You're in it alone.

doglover: Now, if she had gone Morrigan Mode, we'd have a story... and a lot more cleavage.... and them little bat wings on her head. What are those anyway? Are they decorative? Are they wings? Ears? Seriously, what in ever loving fark are they?

Handles.

Julie Cochrane: He white knights and jumps in and solves our problems, he either gets a date (without presumption of nookie)

This is where you're wrong. The white knights absolutely expect nookie, and when they don't get it they turn on he woman.

SharkTrager: Julie Cochrane: He white knights and jumps in and solves our problems, he either gets a date (without presumption of nookie)

This is where you're wrong. The white knights absolutely expect nookie, and when they don't get it they turn on he woman.

Which would be the quid pro quo I was referring to earlier. What a marvelous game, indeed.

SharkTrager: Julie Cochrane: He white knights and jumps in and solves our problems, he either gets a date (without presumption of nookie)

This is where you're wrong. The white knights absolutely expect nookie, and when they don't get it they turn on he woman.

Not necessarily...sometimes they just white knight MORE, the thought being, "Well, I obviously haven't done enough yet."

/trust me, I know.
//lots of girls who were friends in high school, no girlfriends.

A shining example of the Boston community spirit.

CapnBlues: i ride the T frequently. i'd jump in to protect someone from being assaulted or raped or whatever, but I'm not going to risk my neck over a dude who's exposing himself and whacking off.

This.

Frankly, this woman didn't need rescuing. She didn't need to grab the guy and hold him for police, and she shouldn't have. if another passenger had chosen to intervene at all, it shouldn't have been to physically assault the flasher, but should only have been, at most, to tell him to put his dick away and zip his damn pants up.

If I had been in the car, I would have taking my notebook and pen out of my purse, briefly noted the time and the guy's description, then told the guy, "You know there are video cameras in these cars, right? Zip it up now, and I won't stick around for the police report. Keep it out, and I will. You're on camera, right now. Being recorded."

He didn't need to be beaten up or arrested. He just needed to put his dick back in his pants.

This was the equivalent of a guy picking a fist fight with a guy, and it looks like this guy and this gal were about evenly matched.

If I was on the bus and some guy came up and out of the blue assaulted some other guy who was minding his own business, I wouldn't immediately jump in and rescue. I'd wait for the other guy to deck the first guy. Now, after the fight got started if the innocent guy was hopelessly losing or if he was hopelessly outmatched, I might jump in. But until he's at least tried to fight his own fight----it's his fight.

This was the redhead's fight. Good for her that she won it---doesn't matter that she held him for police, or if she'd decked him, or however she handled it (without getting arrested). There's no room to fault the guy who shrugged or the others in the car for not getting involved in her fight before she'd tried defending herself.

If she'd tried defending herself from a physical fight and was getting beat all to shiat and they didn't help, then I'd fault them. Or if she'd been frail or a little old lady instead of clearly young and able-bodied and they didn't help.

It doesn't necessarily help with flashers to tell them how pathetic they are---some people have a fetish for that and that's exactly what they want you to do. So when you do it, you're not punishing their bad behavior, you're inadvertently rewarding it. In fact, a lot of them are including the scorn and shame in their fap material. There are whole websites devoted to it. (see Public Disgrace---although it's hot women instead of men---definitely NSFW as it's a pay hard core BDSM porn site with some free samples, but it shows you what that kink is. You can look up the link yourself if you so choose. I don't necessarily recommend it. The parent site probably has some of the nastiest legal porn on the internet.)

Anyway, I don't see the bus riders who didn't help as wusses of the century. Obviously, letting her take care of her own problem worked. She had to solve it herself. Um...boo-hoo?

ph0rk:
Chivalry implies a quid pro quo that most modern women have already abandoned, so why should they expect it?

Does that mean I can ask her for a beej in return for scaring off the perv?

belhade: ph0rk:
Chivalry implies a quid pro quo that most modern women have already abandoned, so why should they expect it?

Does that mean I can ask her for a beej in return for scaring off the perv?

No, asking outright is against the rules of the game, of course.