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(Reuters)   Army hands Ted Nugent another 4-F   (reuters.com) divider line 290
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2012-04-22 12:58:24 PM
Suing for "viewpoint discrimination" is pretty funny. Maybe elskinnyhead should busk outside Colbert's studios in the hallway men's room.
 
2012-04-22 01:00:23 PM
bojon: CavalierEternal: They shouldn't have booked that pants-sh*tting draft-dodger in the first place.

Yes, the Dixie Chicks should be availiable.


Did they ever get cancelled or did people just stop buying their crap? As I recall, it was a populist uprising against DC not a top down "dear Leader" decision.
 
2012-04-22 01:33:23 PM
Complicit: bojon: Yes, the Dixie Chicks should be availiable.

They'd certainly be a better concert.


And they were dead right5 about Iraq.
 
2012-04-22 01:46:58 PM
Chimperror2: bojon: CavalierEternal: They shouldn't have booked that pants-sh*tting draft-dodger in the first place.

Yes, the Dixie Chicks should be availiable.

Did they ever get cancelled or did people just stop buying their crap? As I recall, it was a populist uprising against DC not a top down "dear Leader" decision.


2012:

l.yimg.com
 
2012-04-22 01:49:26 PM
Chimperror2: Did they ever get cancelled or did people just stop buying their crap? As I recall, it was a populist uprising against DC not a top down "dear Leader" decision.

The protests against the Dixie Chicks were organized by Cumulus Media and Clear Channel Communications which had very strong connections to the Bush administration. Furthermore, it's been suggested that Karl Rove organized the Dixie Chicks controversy as another effort to demonize the opposition.
 
2012-04-22 01:50:21 PM
Sabyen91: Chimperror2: bojon: CavalierEternal: They shouldn't have booked that pants-sh*tting draft-dodger in the first place.

Yes, the Dixie Chicks should be availiable.

Did they ever get cancelled or did people just stop buying their crap? As I recall, it was a populist uprising against DC not a top down "dear Leader" decision.

2012:

[l.yimg.com image 500x300]


+1 internets for you :)
 
2012-04-22 01:56:46 PM
Styx could probably pull off good versions of "Stranglehold" and "Hibernation".

So we really don't need the jerk anyway.
 
2012-04-22 02:20:08 PM
SkinnyHead: Darth Macho: Why bother dicking around with the 'making threats' case when you can just flat-out state that the Army has the ability to cancel a Nugent's booking? See, the First Amendment isn't a guaranteed pay-or-play contract; all it says is the government can't forbid Ted from sharing his thoughts in public, not that they also have to provide a microphone, stage and pay him to show up.

Actually, US Supreme Court has held that the First Amendment protects independent contractors from the termination of at-will government contracts in retaliation for their exercise of the freedom of speech. Bd. of County Comm'rs v. Umbehr, 518 U.S. 668 (1996)


Except for the teeny-tiny fact that what Nugent said wasn't protected speech. As has been explained to you more than once in this thread you f*cking troll.
 
2012-04-22 02:42:26 PM
stoli n coke: Buildabear Humptyhump Fartbambo

Oh god, that's perfect.
 
2012-04-22 03:07:07 PM
SkinnyHead: The government cannot deny a government benefit to retaliate against someone for exercising constitutional rights, like freedom of speech.

Another sad example of the entitlement mentality that has put our nation in the crapper.
 
2012-04-22 03:10:08 PM
Sabyen91: 2012:

l.yimg.com


I am so totally out of touch with the contemporary music scene...but didn't there used to be another Dixie Chick? Or were there always just three?
 
2012-04-22 03:27:05 PM
whidbey: Suing for "viewpoint discrimination" is pretty funny. Maybe elskinnyhead should busk outside Colbert's studios in the hallway men's room.

dude, seriously? you are calling out an alt-troll? seriously?
 
2012-04-22 03:29:45 PM
pciszek: Sabyen91: 2012:

l.yimg.com

I am so totally out of touch with the contemporary music scene...but didn't there used to be another Dixie Chick? Or were there always just three?


I am pretty sure it was always just the three.
 
2012-04-22 03:53:44 PM
pciszek: Sabyen91: 2012:

l.yimg.com

I am so totally out of touch with the contemporary music scene...but didn't there used to be another Dixie Chick? Or were there always just three?


Just three.
 
2012-04-22 04:05:19 PM
TV's Vinnie: djkutch: Bush shrugged it off when the Dixie Chicks discussed his assassination.

[douggoff.com image 449x185]

They said that they were ashamed of being from the same state as GW Bush. Biiiiiig difference than what Tedzo The Clown did.


Meh. Context. Ted Nugent always talks like that. It's his schtick. I suspect the Secret Service were probably embarrassed at having to take part in what is an obvious media stunt by Obama, who technically runs the Secret Service. I think it would be downright insulting to say that they're so dumb to actually think Ted Nugent was making threats against Obama. Anyone with half a brain, even if you really dislike Nugent, can see that he was just going with his normal hunting "wildman" schtick, speaking at an NRA conference and using appropriate metaphors for both.

Nugent was always like that. You look at videos of him performing in the 60s and the dude was wearing loin cloths and had taxidermied tails attached to his stage clothes, and would shoot flaming arrows and stuff. Any serious intel outfit would KNOW that, unless this is just a classic tale of political persecution.

Somehow, I think the response to this is vindicating Nugents "dead or in jail" comment, and I'm not sure whether that's a good or a bad thing. This is something I notice quite a bit with Obama compared to a lot of Presidents. I mean, as bad as Bush was, he tended to leave critics alone. Obama tends to go after his critics and harass them/persecute them in various ways. It's pretty sad compared to what Obama claimed when he was a candidate.
 
2012-04-22 04:09:18 PM
pciszek: Sabyen91: 2012:

l.yimg.com

I am so totally out of touch with the contemporary music scene...but didn't there used to be another Dixie Chick? Or were there always just three?


In their original incarnation as a bluegrass group there was another member named Laura Lynch who left when when the band switched genres. Emily and Marty, the two sisters, then got a tape from Natalie Maine's brother and the rest is history. She's considered kind of like the Pete Best of the Dixie Chicks.

Fun fact about her: By her own description Lynch "cried every day for six months" after departing the band. She eventually left the music business, married Mac Tull in 1997, moving to Weatherford, Texas. Tull afterward won the Texas Lottery in 1999 for $29 million dollars.
 
2012-04-22 04:09:22 PM
gobstopping: TV's Vinnie: djkutch: Bush shrugged it off when the Dixie Chicks discussed his assassination.

[douggoff.com image 449x185]

They said that they were ashamed of being from the same state as GW Bush. Biiiiiig difference than what Tedzo The Clown did.

Meh. Context. Ted Nugent always talks like that. It's his schtick. I suspect the Secret Service were probably embarrassed at having to take part in what is an obvious media stunt by Obama, who technically runs the Secret Service. I think it would be downright insulting to say that they're so dumb to actually think Ted Nugent was making threats against Obama. Anyone with half a brain, even if you really dislike Nugent, can see that he was just going with his normal hunting "wildman" schtick, speaking at an NRA conference and using appropriate metaphors for both.

Nugent was always like that. You look at videos of him performing in the 60s and the dude was wearing loin cloths and had taxidermied tails attached to his stage clothes, and would shoot flaming arrows and stuff. Any serious intel outfit would KNOW that, unless this is just a classic tale of political persecution.

Somehow, I think the response to this is vindicating Nugents "dead or in jail" comment, and I'm not sure whether that's a good or a bad thing. This is something I notice quite a bit with Obama compared to a lot of Presidents. I mean, as bad as Bush was, he tended to leave critics alone. Obama tends to go after his critics and harass them/persecute them in various ways. It's pretty sad compared to what Obama claimed when he was a candidate.


What a load of bs. Secret Service even investigated farkers during the Bush presidency. Obama doesn't tell them to investigate Nugent because of some payback. It's because he keep saying retarded things.
 
2012-04-22 04:12:25 PM
gobstopping: Anyone with half a brain, even if you really dislike Nugent, can see that he was just going with his normal hunting "wildman" schtick, speaking at an NRA conference and using appropriate metaphors for both.

[inigo]
 
2012-04-22 04:59:23 PM
Aquapope: All through this thread I've read about Nugent's pedophilia and shiatting his pants. Are there stories/rumors/urban legends behind these? Did he diddle a dainty darling with a backstage pass? Did he drop a draft board deuce in his drawers? Somebody fill me in.

Reprint of 1977 interview where Ted brags of how he dodged the draft.
 
2012-04-22 05:35:35 PM
lh6.googleusercontent.com

Gee, I wonder why folks cancelled his gig?
 
2012-04-22 06:05:52 PM
gobstopping: Meh. Context. Ted Nugent always talks like that. It's his schtick. I suspect the Secret Service were probably embarrassed at having to take part in what is an obvious media stunt by Obama, who technically runs the Secret Service.

Or, maybe they were hoping to be sent to "investigate" the Playboy Mansion (bet they wished that Hef made a threat?).
 
2012-04-22 06:11:03 PM
Gyrfalcon: Do you have any evidence that the Dixie Chicks or Farrakhan were not investigated by the Secret Service after their statements?

Are you kidding? He doesn't have any evidence that the Dixie Chicks threatened Bush. All they said was that he was an embarrassment; they never even implied they were going to do something about him.
 
2012-04-22 06:25:08 PM
gobstopping: TV's Vinnie: djkutch: Bush shrugged it off when the Dixie Chicks discussed his assassination.

[douggoff.com image 449x185]

They said that they were ashamed of being from the same state as GW Bush. Biiiiiig difference than what Tedzo The Clown did.

Meh. Context. Ted Nugent always talks like that. It's his schtick. I suspect the Secret Service were probably embarrassed at having to take part in what is an obvious media stunt by Obama, who technically runs the Secret Service. I think it would be downright insulting to say that they're so dumb to actually think Ted Nugent was making threats against Obama. Anyone with half a brain, even if you really dislike Nugent, can see that he was just going with his normal hunting "wildman" schtick, speaking at an NRA conference and using appropriate metaphors for both.

Nugent was always like that. You look at videos of him performing in the 60s and the dude was wearing loin cloths and had taxidermied tails attached to his stage clothes, and would shoot flaming arrows and stuff. Any serious intel outfit would KNOW that, unless this is just a classic tale of political persecution.

Somehow, I think the response to this is vindicating Nugents "dead or in jail" comment, and I'm not sure whether that's a good or a bad thing. This is something I notice quite a bit with Obama compared to a lot of Presidents. I mean, as bad as Bush was, he tended to leave critics alone. Obama tends to go after his critics and harass them/persecute them in various ways. It's pretty sad compared to what Obama claimed when he was a candidate.


Something, something about ignoring or giving in to terrorists? And please. Obama has faced more outright harassment and threats than any President in modern memory. If he tended to "go after" his critics, there would probably be next to nobody left to attend your local Tea Party circle jerk.
 
2012-04-22 06:30:45 PM
hubiestubert: [lh6.googleusercontent.com image 597x640]

Gee, I wonder why folks cancelled his gig?


That's a thing of beauty. Too bad it won't shut up the trolls.
 
2012-04-22 06:46:26 PM
 
2012-04-22 06:50:21 PM
Bathia_Mapes: hubiestubert: [lh6.googleusercontent.com image 597x640]

Gee, I wonder why folks cancelled his gig?

That's a thing of beauty. Too bad it won't shut up the trolls.


That's not even all he said:

"If the coyote is in your living room pissing on your couch, it's not the coyote's fault, it's your fault for not shooting him." -Ted "Nougat For Brains" Nugent

As much as a gunnut you are, you should REALLY avoid using shooting analogies with politicians.
 
2012-04-22 06:58:12 PM
WizardofToast: Bathia_Mapes: hubiestubert: [lh6.googleusercontent.com image 597x640]

Gee, I wonder why folks cancelled his gig?

That's a thing of beauty. Too bad it won't shut up the trolls.

That's not even all he said:

"If the coyote is in your living room pissing on your couch, it's not the coyote's fault, it's your fault for not shooting him." -Ted "Nougat For Brains" Nugent

As much as a gunnut you are, you should REALLY avoid using shooting analogies with politicians.


And if you see Rick James on your couch, you should definitely shoot him.
 
2012-04-22 07:48:49 PM
gobstopping: Meh. Context. Ted Nugent always talks like that. It's his schtick.

So you're willing to keep giving this asshole even more chances instead of putting the dipsh*t in jail for a few months where he belongs. Hell, even a year.
 
2012-04-22 08:34:29 PM
"? I'd make an incredible army man. I'd be a colonel before you knew what hit you, and I'd have the baddest bunch of motherfarkin' killers you'd ever seen in my platoon. But I just wasn't into it.

Uh-huh.
 
2012-04-22 09:28:20 PM
robmilmel: "? I'd make an incredible army man. I'd be a colonel before you knew what hit you, and I'd have the baddest bunch of motherfarkin' killers you'd ever seen in my platoon. But I just wasn't into it.

Uh-huh.


He was just practicing for combat when he pooped his pants before going to sign up for the Vietnam draft.
 
2012-04-22 09:35:22 PM
robmilmel: "? I'd make an incredible army man. I'd be a colonel before you knew what hit you, and I'd have the baddest bunch of motherfarkin' killers you'd ever seen in my platoon. But I just wasn't into it.

Uh-huh.


He was totally keen on being a badass military dude, until he found out Charlie would be shooting back at him.
 
2012-04-22 10:05:59 PM
I don't get the Right's championing of Ted Nugent. Proud draft dodger who spouts all sorts of crazy... oh, there it is.
 
2012-04-22 11:03:26 PM
Sk****H**d: The government cannot deny a government benefit

HEY LOOK WHO IS NOW PRO WELFARE!

/breitbarted for my amusement
 
2012-04-22 11:32:25 PM
As someone who loves classic hard rock and is also a lefty, I wish Ted would shut up every now and then.

/for the record, according to a link on Wikipedia, he made up the story about capping his pants since the interviewer from High Times magazine was stoned as fark, and felt like messing with him
//real or fake, that is a pretty epic way of getting out of the draft.
 
2012-04-22 11:36:40 PM
gobstopping: Ted Nugent always talks like that. It's his schtick. I suspect the Secret Service were probably embarrassed at having to take part in what is an obvious media stunt by Obama, who technically runs the Secret Service.

Really. Obvious media stunt by Obama. Mmm-hmm. Is this what you're going with?

/the Secret Service must take any potential threat to the president seriously.
//that is their farking job
///remember all those stories during the Bush era of the Secret Service investigating teenage kids? Same deal here.
 
2012-04-22 11:37:20 PM
Oh my god, Skinnyhead is trolling you f*ckers on so many levels.
 
2012-04-23 02:54:15 AM
Electrify: /for the record, according to a link on Wikipedia, he made up the story about capping his pants since the interviewer from High Times magazine was stoned as fark, and felt like messing with him.

He has stated in other interviews since the High Times article that he didn't hardly ever do drugs in the past, but he did do meth one time before he went for his Army physical. It is also certain that after he received his draft deferment for attending community college, he also received a 4-F medical deferment that kept him permanently out of the Army. Since those records are not available to the public we'll never exactly why our dear draft dodger was medically deferred.

I suspect he didn't crap his pants though.

Like nearly all of these right-wing tough guy patriots, he's just a pathetic little draft dodger that ran away to hide the first time his country called him to serve and defend it from enemies.

/and he really likes having sex with high school girls. He's a breeder, you know.
 
2012-04-23 12:22:13 PM
Electrify: As someone who loves classic hard rock and is also a lefty, I wish Ted would shut up every now and then.

/for the record, according to a link on Wikipedia, he made up the story about capping his pants since the interviewer from High Times magazine was stoned as fark, and felt like messing with him
//real or fake, that is a pretty epic way of getting out of the draft.


I do agree, it is a hell of a way to get out of the draft. But IMHO, if you're willing to go to such extreme lengths to get yourself out of the draft, you have no business sending other people's kids to go fight and die for anything. Ted had his chance to stand up for his country, to prove he is the macho warrior he says he is, and he failed. And he can't even claim a principled stance. He's just another chickenshiat chickenhawk who shoots his mouth and his guns off to overcompensate for his own sense of inferiority.
 
2012-04-23 12:53:02 PM
SkinnyHead: Nugent's First Amendment rights are being violated. He should sue for viewpoint discrimination.

There's no First Amendment right to having someone pay to hear you talk. Or sing. Or spout hate speech to your boss.
 
2012-04-23 02:02:43 PM
TheDumbBlonde: dustman81: TheDumbBlonde: Bathia_Mapes: TheDumbBlonde:
I'll hold my breathe.


It's nice to find somebody living down to her handle. Next time you hold something, could you make it a noun (phrase)?
(Suggestions: "peace" "tongue" or "stupidity/drug intake to a minimum.")


/Is this some sort of reverse C&H? Nouning weirds verbs.
//No need to crap yourself.
///TYVM
 
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