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(Talking Points Memo)   Orrin Hatch falls to the Tea Party, will now be forced to run for reelection   (2012.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 79
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2012-04-21 07:35:28 PM
He'll win the real election.
 
2012-04-21 07:47:33 PM
Orrin Hatch isn't conservative enough for the GOP. I think the Tea Party has officially crossed the Rubicon.
 
2012-04-21 07:50:14 PM
on one hand - I despise Orrin Hatch. But on the other hand...I despise the Tea Party.

hmm.

well, I suspect Hatch will win re-election over his Tea Party opponents. But it'll rattle his cage a bit, and probably make him incredibly pissed off at having to actually stoop to running for re-election, rather than just rubber stamping his campaign as usual. so that's sort of a victory.
 
2012-04-21 07:57:24 PM

Weaver95: on one hand - I despise Orrin Hatch. But on the other hand...I despise the Tea Party.

hmm.

well, I suspect Hatch will win re-election over his Tea Party opponents. But it'll rattle his cage a bit, and probably make him incredibly pissed off at having to actually stoop to running for re-election, rather than just rubber stamping his campaign as usual. so that's sort of a victory.


Pretty much.

I suspect that a few calls will be made next session to cut some funding.
 
2012-04-21 07:59:30 PM

Weaver95: well, I suspect Hatch will win re-election over his Tea Party opponents. But it'll rattle his cage a bit, and probably make him incredibly pissed off at having to actually stoop to running for re-election, rather than just rubber stamping his campaign as usual. so that's sort of a victory.


Hatch has no real challenge in winning. He might be annoyed by the primary challenge, but Hatch is guaranteed.
 
2012-04-21 08:04:42 PM

casual disregard: Weaver95: well, I suspect Hatch will win re-election over his Tea Party opponents. But it'll rattle his cage a bit, and probably make him incredibly pissed off at having to actually stoop to running for re-election, rather than just rubber stamping his campaign as usual. so that's sort of a victory.

Hatch has no real challenge in winning. He might be annoyed by the primary challenge, but Hatch is guaranteed.


yeah that's what I figured. that said - Hatch strikes me as a very arrogant man. the mere fact that he actually has to run for re-election no doubt pisses him off beyond belief. Arrogant people don't like it when someone stands up to them. Even if there's no chance of them losing, authoritarians like Hatch will likely freak out beyond belief over the smallest hint of rebellion and/or opposition.

also - Hatch will likely have to spend more this time around than last election. sure, he'll win...but he'll have to spend money to do it. so again - that's sort of a victory. A tiny, ineffectual one that won't matter one bit to anything important but...meh. USA! USA! USA! [waves flag]
 
2012-04-21 08:07:58 PM

Mentat: Orrin Hatch isn't conservative enough for the GOP. I think the Tea Party has officially crossed the Rubicon.


What's sad is that I doubt any Tea Party member would get the reference, or why it actually applies in the reverse.

Maybe we should call them all the party of Bibulus and Cato from here on out.
 
2012-04-21 08:18:05 PM

Weaver95: authoritarians like Hatch


I agree with everything you put in your post.

I just want to single this out. Hatch has for all his time in office been authoritarian. Hatch did his level best to create all the wrongs we now face.

That's Hatch in a nutshell: Hatch ruined your life. Hatch ruined your business. Hatch ruined your freedom.
 
2012-04-21 08:23:53 PM

casual disregard: Weaver95: authoritarians like Hatch

I agree with everything you put in your post.

I just want to single this out. Hatch has for all his time in office been authoritarian. Hatch did his level best to create all the wrongs we now face.

That's Hatch in a nutshell: Hatch ruined your life. Hatch ruined your business. Hatch ruined your freedom.


And yet he's being primaried for not going far enough.
 
2012-04-21 08:33:35 PM
Bob Bennett must be tickled pink.
 
2012-04-21 08:37:33 PM

doyner: casual disregard: Weaver95: authoritarians like Hatch

I agree with everything you put in your post.

I just want to single this out. Hatch has for all his time in office been authoritarian. Hatch did his level best to create all the wrongs we now face.

That's Hatch in a nutshell: Hatch ruined your life. Hatch ruined your business. Hatch ruined your freedom.

And yet he's being primaried for not going far enough.


isn't it ironic, don't ya think?
 
2012-04-21 08:44:56 PM

Weaver95: on one hand - I despise Orrin Hatch. But on the other hand...I despise the Tea Party.

hmm.

well, I suspect Hatch will win re-election over his Tea Party opponents. But it'll rattle his cage a bit, and probably make him incredibly pissed off at having to actually stoop to running for re-election, rather than just rubber stamping his campaign as usual. so that's sort of a victory.


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2012-04-21 08:52:12 PM

Weaver95: Hatch strikes me as a very arrogant man.


About his challengers:

"These people are not conservatives. They're not Republicans," Hatch angrily responds. "They're radical libertarians and I'm doggone offended by it."

Then Hatch, a former boxer, turns combative. "I despise these people, and I'm not the guy you come in and dump on without getting punched in the mouth."
 
2012-04-21 09:03:30 PM

djkutch: Mentat: Orrin Hatch isn't conservative enough for the GOP. I think the Tea Party has officially crossed the Rubicon.

What's sad is that I doubt any Tea Party member would get the reference, or why it actually applies in the reverse.

Maybe we should call them all the party of Bibulus and the Cato Institute from here on out.

 
2012-04-21 09:40:44 PM

robmilmel: "These people are not conservatives. They're not Republicans," Hatch angrily responds. "They're radical libertarians and I'm doggone offended by it."


Awwww, did the poor wittle baby get upset that he has to run again? Cry me a river, Trout Hatchery.

So what is the Republican Party, exactly? Is it just something victims use to evade responsibility?
 
2012-04-21 09:43:00 PM

robmilmel: Weaver95: Hatch strikes me as a very arrogant man.

About his challengers:

"These people are not conservatives. They're not Republicans," Hatch angrily responds. "They're radical libertarians and I'm doggone offended by it."

Then Hatch, a former boxer, turns combative. "I despise these people, and I'm not the guy you come in and dump on without getting punched in the mouth."


Orrin Hatch does know that he's an elected official, right? I mean he understands that he's not a member of a royal family and that his position isn't hereditary or his for life, right? Because otherwise I'd say let the Tea Party win his seat. arrogance like that is what cost Arlen Specter his seat in the Senate. Orrin keeps running his mouth and he's eventually gonna get biatch slapped by the electorate. Never ever never assume you are indispensible. especially in politics.
 
2012-04-21 09:43:04 PM
Freedumbjerks successfully force Hatch into a primary run-off vote by the tiniest of margins?

Meh, money wasted. Hatch will still win out in June.
 
2012-04-21 09:44:03 PM

quatchi: Freedumbjerks successfully force Hatch into a primary run-off vote by the tiniest of margins?

Meh, money wasted. Hatch will still win out in June.


well yes...but consider that Orrin Hatch is VERY VERY ANGRY now. And you wouldn't like Orrin Hatch when he's angry.
 
2012-04-21 09:47:46 PM

Weaver95: I mean he understands that he's not a member of a royal family and that his position isn't hereditary or his for life, right?


No.
 
2012-04-21 09:47:47 PM

Weaver95: Orrin Hatch does know that he's an elected official, right? I mean he understands that he's not a member of a royal family and that his position isn't hereditary or his for life, right? Because otherwise I'd say let the Tea Party win his seat. arrogance like that is what cost Arlen Specter his seat in the Senate. Orrin keeps running his mouth and he's eventually gonna get biatch slapped by the electorate. Never ever never assume you are indispensible. especially in politics.


This is the Republican Party. Their end game is to create a monarchy with themselves in charge. Of course this motherfarker is that arrogant. That said, I wish he gets his ass handed to him. He'll probably land in a lobbyist position in a matter of days, but it's fun to think of him as being knocked down from that position.

Weaver95: well yes...but consider that Orrin Hatch is VERY VERY ANGRY now. And you wouldn't like Orrin Hatch when he's angry.


You'll only harm the poor staffer that has to change his diaper.
 
2012-04-21 09:51:16 PM

robmilmel: "These people are not conservatives. They're not Republicans," Hatch angrily responds. "They're radical libertarians"


Hatch is such an incredible moron. A radical libertarian would be an anarchist. Tea partiers are literal fascists and authoritarian to the core.
 
2012-04-21 09:53:34 PM
Vicious Republican infighting makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.
 
2012-04-21 09:55:18 PM
The Teabaggers are a bunch of low-information jackoffs and retards who have the same sense of history as meth-addled goldfish, but I have absolutely no problem with politicians being forced to compete for their jobs.
 
2012-04-21 09:58:01 PM
So, I know nothing of this man nor do I assume I would like him if I bothered to learn of his doings but something from TFA popped out at me.

"Bennett had been targeted by the right-wing group FreedomWorks and others, over issues of his long-term incumbency, past flirtations at working with Democrats on health care and his vote for the TARP bailout. Those same issues have all been wielded against Hatch, as well"

Isint that what you're supposed to elect a politician to do? You know, work with others to make the country better, otherwise you're just electing a guy to yell loudly, threaten and ignore the other person. And if thats the case I dont see why they just dont baptize Macho Man Randy Savage and elect him.
 
2012-04-21 09:58:03 PM

Weaver95: quatchi: Freedumbjerks successfully force Hatch into a primary run-off vote by the tiniest of margins?

Meh, money wasted. Hatch will still win out in June.

well yes...but consider that Orrin Hatch is VERY VERY ANGRY now. And you wouldn't like Orrin Hatch when he's angry.


Quick, someone play the sad walking-away closing theme from TIH. That usually calms him down.

I actually find the prospect of an enraged Hatch rather lulzy but then I have a rather quirky sense of humour.
 
2012-04-21 10:06:08 PM
In 2010 the witch, the crazy lady and the Alaskan sleaze bag all prove that the tea party has the ability to impose their will and oust incumbents in favor of ideologically pure candidates.

They also proved that their pure candidates are totally unelectable in the general elections.
 
2012-04-21 10:13:55 PM

casual disregard: He'll win the real election.


For all practical purposes the primary is the real election here. Utah won't send a Democrat to the Senate.
 
2012-04-21 10:16:57 PM
Hatch helped to create the modern Republican "our way or you're a traitor" GOP.

Schadenfreude.
 
2012-04-21 10:17:17 PM
Wow. I am seriously curious what positions Hatch has that Tea partiers don't like. WTF!!!!

/DNRTFA
//Hardly a Dem pick up opportunity, who the fark cares.
 
2012-04-21 10:17:48 PM

Guntram Shatterhand: So what is the Republican Party, exactly?


I just realized that I don't have an answer that doesn't involve sarcasm. I guess I should put on a giant red sweater and go for a walk in the park.
 
2012-04-21 10:41:23 PM

Weaver95: quatchi: Freedumbjerks successfully force Hatch into a primary run-off vote by the tiniest of margins?

Meh, money wasted. Hatch will still win out in June.

well yes...but consider that Orrin Hatch is VERY VERY ANGRY now. And you wouldn't like Orrin Hatch when he's angry.


I don't like him when he's happy. Why would him being angry make a difference?
 
2012-04-21 10:56:00 PM
"Falls to the Tea Party??" WTF subby? Senator Hatch won 59% of the convention vote (on the second ballot) and got 57% on the first ballot. Unlike Senator Bennett who was defeated at the Utah GOP Convention, Senator Hatch will be on the ballot for the June primary and will win said race.

Nice try subby, but you are wrong, the Tea Party isn't the Republican "boogyman."
 
2012-04-21 10:57:34 PM
Hmmm this is somewhat like a match between Severus Snape and Dolores Umbridge. Who to root for....hard to say...
 
2012-04-21 10:59:02 PM

SilentStrider: Weaver95: quatchi: Freedumbjerks successfully force Hatch into a primary run-off vote by the tiniest of margins?

Meh, money wasted. Hatch will still win out in June.

well yes...but consider that Orrin Hatch is VERY VERY ANGRY now. And you wouldn't like Orrin Hatch when he's angry.

I don't like him when he's happy. Why would him being angry make a difference?


It's Orrin Hatch, if he's happy it's because he's doing something that makes decent people like him less, if he's angry it might be anything.
 
2012-04-21 11:05:21 PM
At some point, I think the Teabaggers are going to go so far right, they'll emerge far left of 'liberals'
 
2012-04-21 11:06:55 PM

shinji3i: So, I know nothing of this man nor do I assume I would like him if I bothered to learn of his doings but something from TFA popped out at me.

"Bennett had been targeted by the right-wing group FreedomWorks and others, over issues of his long-term incumbency, past flirtations at working with Democrats on health care and his vote for the TARP bailout. Those same issues have all been wielded against Hatch, as well"

Isint that what you're supposed to elect a politician to do? You know, work with others to make the country better, otherwise you're just electing a guy to yell loudly, threaten and ignore the other person. And if thats the case I dont see why they just dont baptize Macho Man Randy Savage and elect him.


Because you have to be alive to get on the ballot?

/don't have to be alive to win the election though
 
2012-04-21 11:12:06 PM

Nuclear Monk: At some point, I think the Teabaggers are going to go so far right, they'll emerge far left of 'liberals'


When they hit 88 derps per hour, we're going to see some serious shiat.
 
2012-04-21 11:17:31 PM
Good. Fark that guy.

He's responsible for the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act. That's all I need to know to know this asshole shouldn't be in office.
 
2012-04-21 11:21:38 PM
Where's Nelson?
 
2012-04-21 11:28:00 PM
Umm...Fark Liberals.

If you FLs like the candidate that is not a Tea Party or conservative...He is not a conservative. Which is why the base of his party wants him out

Hatch knows he is in trouble. Hee probably hates having to go back to Utah, and, egad, have to talk to the constituents.....ohh the hugemanatee

And, Fark Liberals like a guy named Orrin. Orrin
 
2012-04-21 11:28:28 PM

casual disregard: Hatch ruined your life. Hatch ruined your business. Hatch ruined your freedom.


Awesome chiles, though.
 
2012-04-21 11:37:16 PM

Mentat: Orrin Hatch isn't conservative enough for the GOP. I think the Tea Party has officially crossed the Rubicon.


Just means that the RIAA will have to cut Orin a bigger check this election. They're not gonna let their Golden Boy go down.
 
2012-04-21 11:42:10 PM
I hate Hatch, he is scum. But he is far better than any tea party moron.
 
2012-04-22 12:07:01 AM
Fraud At Polls
 
2012-04-22 12:42:49 AM

Notabunny: Guntram Shatterhand: So what is the Republican Party, exactly?

I just realized that I don't have an answer that doesn't involve sarcasm. I guess I should put on a giant red sweater and go for a walk in the park.


Don't feel bad. There is no answer to it. Not even the Republicans know. They are so into their tribalism kick that they have forgotten what it means. They have literally not considered it for nearly a decade and a half. It seemed that they put all of their ideological eggs in a Rove basket and had nothing to fall back on when Dubya farked up everything. They really had the gall to think that they would never, ever be called out on it.

It's not even hubris. It's a lack of problemsolving capabilities. Whenever I say the Republicans are like a corporation, this is it: they simply don't give a shiat and imagine the little gnomes take care of all the hard work. It's astounding, and a vivid insight into why the French Revolution happened.
 
2012-04-22 12:49:03 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: He is not a conservative


You're just about to fall over the edge, you're so far to the right.
 
2012-04-22 12:53:45 AM

djkutch: Mentat: Orrin Hatch isn't conservative enough for the GOP. I think the Tea Party has officially crossed the Rubicon.

What's sad is that I doubt any Tea Party member would get the reference, or why it actually applies in the reverse.

Maybe we should call them all the party of Bibulus and Cato from here on out.


I am Sparticus.
 
2012-04-22 12:55:28 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: Fark Liberals


This kind of lazy stupid just hurts.

"Fark Liberals" has no meaning. It is an intellectually poor man's response to something he's read (Fark Independent) and assumes he can just substitute one political party for another and that somehow, someway, he's totally burned liberals.

It takes no history of the evolution of "Fark Independent" into consideration. And if you asked him to define what "Fark Liberal" means, he would be unable to; doubly so if he had to try and tie it to the "Fark Independent" meme.

So. Much. Fail.
 
2012-04-22 12:56:05 AM

SilentStrider: Weaver95: quatchi: Freedumbjerks successfully force Hatch into a primary run-off vote by the tiniest of margins?

Meh, money wasted. Hatch will still win out in June.

well yes...but consider that Orrin Hatch is VERY VERY ANGRY now. And you wouldn't like Orrin Hatch when he's angry.

I don't like him when he's happy. Why would him being angry make a difference?


less spittle
 
2012-04-22 12:59:46 AM
I say Wow. Orrin Hatch... not conservative enough? Wow.
 
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