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2012-04-21 08:16:35 PM
There's a vacant lot in my neighborhood... I was wondering what would happen if we just started growing carrots or something in it. Now I guess we know...
 
2012-04-21 09:36:39 PM
Asinine? Sounds like a good way to make use of a vacant lot.
 
2012-04-21 09:38:29 PM
I'm wondering what's asinine about this.

Attempting to grow things in areas that other otherwise eyesores and depressing?

I'm sure someone will explain it to me, though.

What's wrong with growing a little garden outside in the rust and sand, picking up the pieces that were left to die. Bringing the land back with a healing hand?
 
2012-04-21 10:11:00 PM
"Urban gardening" is huge in Detroit.
 
2012-04-21 10:18:39 PM
Hah! There's a vacant lot next to my house in Shaw, the neighborhood where these people were throwing stuff around. I bet they threw stuff there, which would be completely awesome. I'd love to look out my window and see wildflowers and useful things rather than weeds and concrete.
 
2012-04-21 10:42:26 PM
Enh, I can think of worse ideas.
 
2012-04-21 11:24:32 PM
gee, I thought it was 'planting trees which we promptly ignore'
 
2012-04-21 11:25:03 PM
Putting otherwise perfectly good but unused land to a good use is asinine?

Yeah, I mean it's not like we're running out of good land to use to house and feed the 7 billion of us.
 
2012-04-21 11:27:17 PM
What's the problem? God forbid we have some nice wildflowers among the usual weeds that take over a vacant lot?

It's not like some future person who buys the lot to build something can't dig those up the same as anything else. In the meantime, maybe things look a little less crappy.

Moss graffiti sounds awesome. I'm thinking I might like to try this. Just neat patterns that make people think wait, wut? Why it grows like that?
 
2012-04-21 11:27:22 PM
Operation Overgrow
 
2012-04-21 11:29:20 PM

unlikely: There's a vacant lot in my neighborhood... I was wondering what would happen if we just started growing carrots or something in it. Now I guess we know...


I imagine it's probably fine as long as you're okay with it being a bet, meaning that if someone buys the land and needs to rip it up before your crop is done, you lose - but as long as that risk is known, and it would otherwise just be weed city, probably just go to town.

We garden in an alley behind our house that technically isn't our property but no one really uses it for anything (it's a power easement) so no one really cares, as long as we don't fence it off.
 
2012-04-21 11:30:01 PM
"Guerrilla gardening is urban gardening and food justice.

i224.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-21 11:30:40 PM
Hmm.. I wonder if anyone has tried that with pot?
 
2012-04-21 11:31:15 PM
Pot smokers have been doing that for years.
 
2012-04-21 11:32:03 PM
"Guerrilla gardening is urban gardening and food justice"

I felt my IQ drop about 5 points just reading that sentence...
 
2012-04-21 11:32:18 PM

itazurakko: What's the problem? God forbid we have some nice wildflowers among the usual weeds that take over a vacant lot?

It's not like some future person who buys the lot to build something can't dig those up the same as anything else. In the meantime, maybe things look a little less crappy.

Moss graffiti sounds awesome. I'm thinking I might like to try this. Just neat patterns that make people think wait, wut? Why it grows like that?


Yeah, the moss thing is pretty cool. Id recommend getting a crappy blender at goodwill to do it in though. We recently pulled up all the bricks in out front walk to relevel it and when we put em back it looked kinda crappy without moss between most of em. We pulled all the moss wed taken up out of the compost heap and blended it with whole milk and poured it back in all the cracks, worked great.
 
2012-04-21 11:32:39 PM
I think this is cool. Subby is asinine.
 
2012-04-21 11:32:51 PM
Using 40 year old Japanese permaculture methods is radical and cool?
 
2012-04-21 11:33:04 PM
I'm a Rush-listening Ayn Rand reading conservative......and what exactly is asinine about this? Nothing is being destroyed. No one is being deprived of their property or harmed in any way. I would MUCH rather hipsters being doing this than out destroying property or causing other mayhem. If the hipsters were to just go plant flowers someplace, other than the possible trespassing, what would be the problem? This sounds like a quick and fun way to do the same thing, without ever having set foot on the landowners property. If the land get's developed in anyway, they're gonna tear up the ground anyways, whether it's grass and weeds or flowers and carrots. No harm no foul IMO.
 
2012-04-21 11:34:45 PM
This is not a repeat from 1835.
upload.wikimedia.org
 
HBK
2012-04-21 11:35:02 PM
Dear Hippies,

Thanks for your work converting vacant lots into fields of weeds that need to be mowed once a week to prevent snakes and vermin from taking up residence next to people's homes. Here's a bill, $50 (and that's low, the city usually charges lot owners at least $100) per lot, per week. Maybe you'll think twice before your free spirits cost us more money.

Sincerely,

Taxpayers
 
2012-04-21 11:35:33 PM
fta: A band of 25 followers cheers, "Cool!"

Really? They all cheered "cool"?

/why not RAD or BODACIOUS!
 
2012-04-21 11:35:57 PM

Mmmm_Hogfat: I think this is cool. Subby is asinine.


I think it's cool too.

"But it's controversial, too. If you see an abandoned, neglected lot and you decide to do something about it by planting vegetables and herbs, are you an occupier? It's kind of radical, in some ways."


But I see where subby is coming from.
 
2012-04-21 11:37:14 PM
Damn these hippie urban blight reducing terrorists. Before you know it they'll be tossing
seed bombs on the sides of freeways and in old abandoned factory lots. The pollen count
will increase dramatically and the allergy sufferers will be brought to tears by the rampant
disregard for their health. Won't somebody think of the allergy suffering children.
 
2012-04-21 11:38:34 PM
For everyone wondering why it's tagged as asinine, I think it's the terms like "seed bombs," "activist gardening," and "guerrilla gardeners."

Awesome idea, lame names.
 
HBK
2012-04-21 11:39:07 PM
Plant crops on a lot you don't own, tend to it occasionally over 10 years, and claim title to it (arguably) via adverse possession.
 
HBK
2012-04-21 11:40:14 PM

turbidum: For everyone wondering why it's tagged as asinine, I think it's the terms like "seed bombs," "activist gardening," and "guerrilla gardeners."

Awesome idea, lame names.


And that they all say "cool" at the same time. It's like a scene from Rad- the BMX Story.
 
2012-04-21 11:40:30 PM
I just had a weird thought. Since some states like MI have legal medicinal marijuana and there is big issues about who can grow and distribute marijuana legally. I wonder what kind of wacky mess would it be if some started an urban pot garden. I am sure the whole community would involve themselves into the care of the garden and the police would have a field day trying to figure out who to arrest and for what. Maybe the feds would simply fly over and drop napalm. They always find a way of taking the fun out of messing with the police. I don't care for pot, just considering the hilarity that would follow.
 
2012-04-21 11:40:39 PM
They're planing fruits, vegetables, and flowers?

How dare they! Let's mock them!
 
2012-04-21 11:40:54 PM

HBK: Dear Hippies,

Thanks for your work converting vacant lots into fields of weeds that need to be mowed once a week to prevent snakes and vermin from taking up residence next to people's homes. Here's a bill, $50 (and that's low, the city usually charges lot owners at least $100) per lot, per week. Maybe you'll think twice before your free spirits cost us more money.

Sincerely,

Taxpayers


Weeds grow and need to be mowed, with or without help. There's this thing called "nature" and it's found a lot of good ways to distribute seeds without human help. Dandelion seeds blowing in the wind, squirrels burring acorns and seeds, etc. Take any patch of dirt, and shiats gonna start growing there with or without "activist gardening". If it's not flowers and veggies, it's gonna be crab grass and dandelions.
 
2012-04-21 11:42:30 PM

BurnShrike: Putting otherwise perfectly good but unused land to a good use is asinine?

Yeah, I mean it's not like we're running out of good land to use to house and feed the 7 billion of us.


There's more than plenty of land. There's just not enough profit for the people who currently own said land, and instead of investing their money in the land they have to develop it they spend money lobbying governments so they can buy more land in say, nature reserves. And instead of the government using our tax dollars to solve the housing crisis directly by... building new low-cost housing, they give billions to the banks that CREATED the housing crisis. On purpose. For money.
 
HBK
2012-04-21 11:43:06 PM

taurusowner:
Weeds grow and need to be mowed, with or without help. There's this thing called "nature" and it's found a lot of good ways to distribute seeds without human help. Dandelion seeds blowing in the wind, squirrels burring acorns and seeds, etc. Take any patch of dirt, and shiats gonna start growing there with or without "activist gardening". If it's not flowers and veggies, it's gonna be crab grass and dandelions.


Sure, over time. The process generally takes a lot longer if you aren't actively throwing weeds at it.
 
2012-04-21 11:43:06 PM

turbidum: For everyone wondering why it's tagged as asinine, I think it's the terms like "seed bombs,"


I prefer "bukake".
 
2012-04-21 11:43:17 PM

Cyno01: itazurakko: What's the problem? God forbid we have some nice wildflowers among the usual weeds that take over a vacant lot?

It's not like some future person who buys the lot to build something can't dig those up the same as anything else. In the meantime, maybe things look a little less crappy.

Moss graffiti sounds awesome. I'm thinking I might like to try this. Just neat patterns that make people think wait, wut? Why it grows like that?

Yeah, the moss thing is pretty cool. Id recommend getting a crappy blender at goodwill to do it in though. We recently pulled up all the bricks in out front walk to relevel it and when we put em back it looked kinda crappy without moss between most of em. We pulled all the moss wed taken up out of the compost heap and blended it with whole milk and poured it back in all the cracks, worked great.


I want a whole yard of moss. fark grass.

As alternately, this house I'm looking to buy may end with a screened in yard.
 
2012-04-21 11:44:43 PM
Subby just trolled y'all with the "Asinine" tag.


phenomenon known as activist gardening that is taking off this spring in cities such as Portland

Figures. You can bet this will be the subject of a "Portlandia" skit next season.
 
2012-04-21 11:44:47 PM

HBK: adverse possession


This.
 
Skr
2012-04-21 11:45:29 PM
I wish throwing mudballs was all it took to grow flowers in my yard. f'ing stubborn flowers. I want to pistil whip 'em
 
2012-04-21 11:47:05 PM

AeAe: Hmm.. I wonder if anyone has tried that with pot?


I tend to choose my sites more carefully. Hypothetically, of course.
 
2012-04-21 11:47:29 PM

taurusowner: what exactly is asinine about this?



It's funny that they imagine they are changing the world... FOR GREAT JUSTICE.

The idealistically lopsided grasp of their own impact reminds me of the Kogi, a little tribe that lives in the rainforest highlands of Colombia. The Kogi call themselves the "Elder Brothers," considering the rest of humanity to be the younger, less enlightened "Younger Brothers" that need to be cared for and guided for their own good. This guardianship consists of climbing a sacred mountain and worshipping the "Earth Mother." By doing this, they imagine they are accomplishing the big important work of humanity, allowing us younger brothers to go about our petty, small, insignificant business. They imagine themselves to be the heroes of the world, safeguarding humanity, protecting us so the rest of us can lead better lives.

No, it doesn't harm anyone and it's perfectly fine for them to do their thing on their sacred mountain. But their perception of their tiny little efforts as phenomenal feats of staggering importance ... you just gotta laugh.
 
2012-04-21 11:48:05 PM

GilRuiz1: "Guerrilla gardening is urban gardening and food justice.

[i224.photobucket.com image 363x310]


Gee, Gil, what's it like being such a micro-dick little piece of shiat, anyway?
 
2012-04-21 11:48:07 PM
Throwing these bombs and turning empty lots into vegetable gardens steals foods from every executive and lonely elderly investor in www.adm.com
 
2012-04-21 11:49:49 PM
In 2012, 'hipster' is just a word 30-40 year old people use to refer to 20-30 year people. Sorry you're old and your heyday was the 90s.
 
HBK
2012-04-21 11:50:29 PM

Canned Tamales: GilRuiz1: "Guerrilla gardening is urban gardening and food justice.

[i224.photobucket.com image 363x310]

Gee, Gil, what's it like being such a micro-dick little piece of shiat, anyway?


That's quite the overreaction. Are you sure you aren't the one overcompensating for something?

Ad hominem attacks prove you're smart!
 
2012-04-21 11:52:04 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Attempting to grow things in areas that other otherwise eyesores and depressing?


Hey! Subby LIKES depressing eyesores! Why ruin the effect with some silly flowers?
 
2012-04-21 11:52:55 PM
Who the hell would eat from there??

Inner cities are known for soil contamination with lead, PCBs, dioxins, pesticides, there's really no telling. Lead is the classic one, lots of these places had lead paint from "the old days", leaching into the ground, sometimes getting stripped off onto the ground during repainting. When the place gets derelict and torn down, there may be no owner responsible for cleanup, thus the derelict status. Place could be a mini superfund site by then.
 
2012-04-21 11:53:01 PM
Balls of dirt? Those are for amateurs. Skilled folks use a bow and arrow.

images.wikia.com
 
2012-04-21 11:54:16 PM
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2012-04-21 11:54:32 PM

HBK: taurusowner:
Weeds grow and need to be mowed, with or without help. There's this thing called "nature" and it's found a lot of good ways to distribute seeds without human help. Dandelion seeds blowing in the wind, squirrels burring acorns and seeds, etc. Take any patch of dirt, and shiats gonna start growing there with or without "activist gardening". If it's not flowers and veggies, it's gonna be crab grass and dandelions.

Sure, over time. The process generally takes a lot longer if you aren't actively throwing weeds at it.


Yeah. Might take 2 months instead of one.

You're not going to find many places where seed bombing would work that are not already full of grasses and weeds.
 
2012-04-21 11:54:53 PM

itazurakko: What's the problem? God forbid we have some nice wildflowers among the usual weeds that take over a vacant lot?

It's not like some future person who buys the lot to build something can't dig those up the same as anything else. In the meantime, maybe things look a little less crappy.

Moss graffiti sounds awesome. I'm thinking I might like to try this. Just neat patterns that make people think wait, wut? Why it grows like that?


The problem comes over time. The longer the lot remains unused by the owner, the more the gardeners come to view it as "their space". Then when the inevitable day comes when the owner finds a use for it, the activists will scramble to alert the media to how "the man" is destroying something good for the sake of the almighty dollar. It's a PR fiasco for the owner.
 
2012-04-21 11:54:57 PM
Urban gardening is not drive-by Johnny Appleseeding. The article doesn't mention anyone coming back to tend the plants, nor any spontaneous fields of posies, nor any vegetable harvests. It's just idiots tossing seed-bombs and giggling as they run away to Starbucks.
 
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