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2012-04-21 02:19:24 PM
1. Email
-Well, they're right in that I don't buy it. But I do use my e-mail- there's a place for more formal communication, and there's a place for stuff like facebook messages.

2. Regular Beer
-Perhaps true for the frat boy types, but my observation is that craft beer is pretty popular. It may not touch the volume of light beer, more because people slamming home light beer are going for drunk, while the craft beer people are going for tastes.

3. Newspapers
-I have the NY Times on my phone, and read papers pretty reguarally at the office. I don't pay for them, but I do value them.

4. Cars
-Pretty damn useful to have. I have one, and I suspect that when millennials get the gainful employment that's been so hard for them to find, the car ownership rates will increase. But by and large, our generation likes the urban environment, and is gonna reject the suburban lifestyle to a much larger extent than previous ones.

5. Landlines
-What's a land line?

6. Cigarettes
-I'll skip the cancer sticks.

7. Desktop Computers
-Typing on a laptop and watching a TV show on one right beside it. I might get one down the line for a bit more power and storage, but right now I don't particularly need or want one.

8. Television
-The issue here is that we're watching on different platforms. Distribution methods will have to adapt- right now, the TV people are still pretty resistant to online distribution. Once they get a better business model and factor online in the ratings, those figures will change.
 
2012-04-21 02:51:18 PM
9. Retirement plans

10. Health Insurance
 
2012-04-21 02:52:13 PM
The only reason people of my generation drink lite beer is because it's both the cheapest and the most easily available beer when people just want to party.

However, we also love craft beer.
 
2012-04-21 03:56:46 PM
FTFA:The amount of Americans 65 and older who smoke actually increased 10.5%.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that people are not picking up the habit as they grow older, but non-smokers are dying off faster
 
2012-04-21 04:13:43 PM
30 years old:
1. Email - Use it, don't pay for it
2. Beer - Buy and drink it
3. Newspapers - Haven't bought one in years. Read newspapers online, for free.
4. Cars - Have had one since I was 18
5. Landline - Never had one. Use cell phone for all telephonic communications
6. Cigarettes - Never smoked
7. Desktop computers - Haven't had one for over 4 years. Using laptop right now
8. Television - Got one, a 55" HD in fact, hooked up to a OTA antenna and Roku with Netflix and Hulu Plus.

Basically as the Boomers die off, newspapers, landlines and television will either disappear or undergo a shift.
 
2012-04-21 04:40:11 PM
Is it because we're too poor to afford them?
 
2012-04-21 04:43:12 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: 9. Retirement plans

10. Health Insurance


11. Houses

12. Porn
 
2012-04-21 04:43:51 PM
I'm not really convinced that the TV will go away, though its programming will probably drastically change. The entry about email was just odd.
 
2012-04-21 04:44:49 PM
Facebook generation? farkerburg doesn't get any business on my account, but my mom who is 56 and all her friends are on that shiat all the time.


It is good to see that youngsters aren't smoking as much. I would give anything to have never started. I saw some kids walking down the street sharing a cigarette and I really thought hard about jumping out of my car and threatening them with violence to try to get them to quit.
 
2012-04-21 04:45:08 PM
The irony of this being on Yahoo.com is not lost on me...
 
2012-04-21 04:46:09 PM
1) No, that's the basis of account management for everything.

2) That's nitpicky.

3) Basically already dead.

4) Only in major cities.

5) Basically already dead.

6) OK.

7) Nitpicking again.

8) Change this to cable/satellite TV services and you would be onto something, as opposed to being stupid.
 
2012-04-21 04:47:02 PM

dustman81: 8. Television - Got one, a 55" HD in fact, hooked up to a OTA antenna and Roku with Netflix and Hulu Plus.


I think a more accurate prediction for #8 would be "cable television"
 
2012-04-21 04:47:14 PM
-porn
 
2012-04-21 04:47:15 PM
1. Email

Uh, if you're paying for email, you're doing it wrong.

2. Beer

Riiiight. Young people aren't buying beer. Not at all. Never would cross their minds. Oh, by the way, I have some land for sale on the moon for you...

3. Newspapers

I don't think the decline in readership is only amongst the youngins...

4. Cars

Kids don't buy cars. Parents do.

5. Landline

Well, duh, again, everyone's cutting back on this. No uniqueness here.

6. Cigarettes

See 5

7. Desktop

See 6

8. TV

Not much new here. College age kids don't spend a lot of time in front of the TV.. I didn't, ten years ago. You'd either have to share with others, live in your own place, in a place big enough to justify buying a TV and paying for cable just for yourself. I'm sure in a few years they'll buy some TVs, unless somehow 60 inch laptops end up on the market..
 
2012-04-21 04:48:04 PM
9. Facebook
 
2012-04-21 04:48:40 PM
On the e-mail thing... I was ready to scoff and say "yeah right, I'm going to start handling business through facebook." But then I remembered that just yesterday, a client contacted me via facebook, about business. Not through the company's facebook page, but to me, directly. I don't really like this, if it indicates a trend. I think I'll just shift the conversation back to regular e-mail channels...

/lame story bro
 
2012-04-21 04:48:52 PM
1. Email - Who pays for email? Doesn't everyone use email at least occasionally?
2. Beer - ?
3. Newspapers - the local one gets delivered for free.
4. Cars - this is just stupid.
5. Landline - it comes with internet service (or maybe it's the other way around)
6. Cigarettes - Prescription drugs are way better, right?
7. Desktop computers - I have one, and a laptop - the desktop has a OTA tuner card (both Linux, btw) and is connected to . . .
8. Television - Decent sized computer monitor with an ATSC tuner built-in.
 
2012-04-21 04:48:53 PM
6. Cigarettes

Smoking rates among young people have historically exceeded those of the general population. Now that group is dropping the habit quicker than anyone. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the share of people 18 to 24 years of age who were current cigarette smokers decreased by 17.6% from 2005 to 2010 - the largest decrease among any age group. The share among 45- to 64-year-olds dropped only 3.6%. The amount of Americans 65 and older who smoke actually increased 10.5%.

I've said for years this, the loss of revenue by tobacco companies, is what will ultimately lead to the decriminalization of marijuana. The government will give it to them to sell and collect taxes on. They will keep getting richer which will keep campaign contributions, lobbying money, and flat out bribes flowing to elected officials.
 
2012-04-21 04:49:09 PM
Calling "young people" the "Facebook generation" is just stupid. In the 90's did we call people the "AOL generation"?

As well, the bullet points in the article are also either no-brainers, or highly arguable. All in all a stupid, pointless article.

/going to go back to watching hockey on my 60" TV while drinking a beer.
 
2012-04-21 04:49:27 PM
Hurrrrrr
 
2012-04-21 04:50:09 PM
Eight products only people who haven't broken the habit will buy.
 
2012-04-21 04:50:30 PM

WhoIsNotInMyKitchen: Calling "young people" the "Facebook generation" is just stupid. In the 90's did we call people the "AOL generation"?

As well, the bullet points in the article are also either no-brainers, or highly arguable. All in all a stupid, pointless article.

/going to go back to watching hockey on my 60" TV while drinking a beer.


This
 
2012-04-21 04:50:43 PM
We're calling it the "Facebook generation" now? That's extremely irritating.
 
zez
2012-04-21 04:50:46 PM
As recently as 1998, 64.4% of potential drivers ages 19 and younger had drivers licenses, according to the Federal Highway Administration. As of 2008, that amount had dropped to 46.3%.

duh, it's because they're being carted around by helicopter
 
2012-04-21 04:51:32 PM
Its interesting about cigarette use increasing 10.5% in those 65 or older. I suspect its former smokers who have taken it up again, The bottom line is that, in the short term, smoking is pleasurable. After 65, so many other things can take you out that the risks from smoking begin to seem irrelevant.

I'm approaching that age and am a former smoker. The improvement to my personal day to day quality of life, after I quit, was such that it is unlikely that I'll take it up again. Ask me again in 5 years.
 
2012-04-21 04:52:02 PM
DVDs, Music, anything else they can download off the internet for free
 
2012-04-21 04:52:08 PM
1. Email - Don't use it much except at work.
2. Regular Beer - NO.
3. Newspapers - Online. I pay for the local paper, mean to stop as I scarcely read it.
4. Cars - NO.
5. Landlines - Yes. The Great Blackout reminded me why I can't quit Bell until I'm sure a cellphone will work in a power outage. I don't have a cellphone but I love Google Phone because it's free and works just as well as a landline.
6. Cigarettes - NO.
7. Desktop Computers - NO. My desktop is dead.
8. Television - Barely. It comes on automatically in the morning for an hour to help wake me up if the alarm clock fails. I barely even watch my favourite shows any more.

I was "Millennial" before Millennial was cool--or born for that matter.

I can't help but noticing that Millennials are like that because they are young, foolish and poor.

Well, even two out of three isn't bad. I grew up under the Baby Boomer generation, only I've been doing it twice as long as you have kids, so STFU! I've heard it all and most of it is wrong.
 
2012-04-21 04:52:28 PM
Television should be Cable instead.

I watch most of my tv shows online thanks to sites like Hulu. But I still own a video game console and want to watch movies. The only thing I miss is sports but there are enough televisions at most restaurants that if I really need to watch a game I can dine out, or hang out with someone who does have a tv, or watch it on ESPN 3 if that's an option.
 
2012-04-21 04:52:31 PM
Who pays for email? True Patriots who love America more than you, that's who.
 
2012-04-21 04:53:25 PM
Alex, I will take Things that Cost Money, for $1000.
 
2012-04-21 04:53:44 PM
CARS:
Could it have something to do with the disgusting insurance rates and inflated gas prices?

When the corporate structure of a country crushes the younger generation from having the ability to own and drive a vehicle, we have a problem.
 
2012-04-21 04:55:40 PM
2. Beer. Ten years ago a man would be looked don on for drinking light. Now with craft beer, a man drinking light beer should be beaten.
 
2012-04-21 04:56:37 PM
People "buy" email?

I'm 40 and with the exception of maybe email, the list could have been written for me.

/That special kind of kung-fu is called a "Reverse Off My Lawn" in case you were wondering
 
2012-04-21 04:57:28 PM
list fails for neglecting to include Yahoo.
 
2012-04-21 04:57:33 PM
This list is a how to avoid getting laid priority list.

No car? No beer? Facebook Instant message instead of face-to face?

No cigarettes? If she smokes, she pokes.. Everyone knows that.

/I can't help you people if you won't help yourselves Gen Y.
 
2012-04-21 04:59:19 PM
1. No reason to "buy" it. Email, like snailmail, has its place. Here's a thought, though - if everything you have to say can be said in 140 characters or less, who would want to talk to you?
2. "Budweiser" /= "beer." Homebrewing is on the rise. Craft beers are on the rise. Beer is, indeed, being sold to the "Facebook generation," it's just not the horrifying shiat churned out by MillerCoors or InBev.
3. Newspapers are reaching obsolesence, but only in terms of the medium. Content generators aren't shipping out paper like they used to, not when you can ship online for pennies on the dollar and rake in more money.
4. Newsflash, chuckleheads - it's expensive to own & operate a car. You can get a car for next to nothing these days, but if you can't afford taxes, fees, insurance, and so on, what's the point?
5. Good luck with 911, kids. There isn't enough support in densely populated areas to handle emergency calls during crisis situations. Try calling Daddy during an earthquake, and see how far that gets you. For those of us with homes, it's cheaper to use VOIP instead of twisted-pair.
6. Good riddance.
7. Desktops require a place to live. If you're part of the "Facebook generation," chances are you're bunking with roomies, using crash space, or living with your parents.
8. No surprise there. Network television is more advertising than programming, and it's far easier to consume content online, on demand, without ads, than having scheduled programming riddled with advertising pumped at you.

Eventually, all of these artificial mechanisms will become broken down into content providers and content producers - content providers get content to you, content producers create content - instead of having arbitrary technological partitions dictate terms. Television, telephone, radio, movies, music, messaging, pictures, webpages - it's all just content. I want to pay a content provider to ensure I can get access to content, and I want to pay content producers to allow me to access desired content.

Content providers should be as ubiquitous as, well, the cable company - they come in and turn on the spigot, that's it. Content producers should provide tiered or non-tiered access to their content, depending on advertising & other limitations, and allow me to choose.

Network television doesn't allow me to choose - and, what's worse, they're dictating how content providers should allow me to access content. "Sorry, but even though your cable company provides a DVR for you and allows you to access programming on demand, we're not going to let you fast-forward through the advertising." That shiat has to go. The ONLY thing I should be paying content providers for is bandwidth - everything else should be from content producers. Comcast, for example, straddles this fence and fails in both directions - they're a lousy content provider, with low, shared bandwidth and high relative cost, and they're acting as an agent between me and content producers, artificially limiting my access to desired content while forcing me to pay for undesired content.
 
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2012-04-21 05:00:22 PM
It's obvious that they've never experienced landlines, or they wouldn't be so enamored with their farking cell phones.

I've seen so many complete cluster farks due to not being unable to understand WTF the person on the other end of a shiatty cell to cell connection just said.

/Gen X
//Owns and carries a cell
///Off my farking lawn
 
2012-04-21 05:00:53 PM
I'm 28, for the record.

Email -
If email had to be bought, I'd just host my own mail server, but the ubiquitiousness of free email on the internet does, indeed, ensure no one will ever want to pay for it again. There is such a thing as Registered email, though, that does require payment, but that has niche use, obviously.

Regular Beer -
Beer is gross, but I actually see the Facebook generation being MORE interested in regular beer. The Facebook generation is full of farking hipsters and hipsters love craft beer and microbreweries.

Newspapers -
This is where the majority of my news comes from (I don't watch any of that shiat on TV or listen to the radio) if you count online distributed newspapers in that. As far as physical newspapers go... it's just too slow now. I know there's a certain degree of comfort holding a piece of paper as opposed to looking at a screen (same as the dead tree vs. ebook debate,) but I don't look at it for comfort. I look at it for information. If I can get it more timely online, so be it. I don't think newspapers are going anywhere, but the medium of distribution will change.

Cars -
I'm legally blind, so no-go. If I weren't, considering I live in the suburbs, a car would be mandatory for me and I don't see that to be any different for anyone else. The only time a car isn't really mandatory is if you live in a big city, and it's been that way LONG before the internet (let alone Facebook) was even a thing.

Landline -
I actually would like a landline again for the dependability of it. Unfortunately, it's just that much more cost effective to do VOIP. I don't really like using my cell phone and generally, when I get a call, unless it's important, I tell them to wait until I get home or can see them in person. With most people preferring cell phones to communicate, though, and with landlines being mostly obsoleted in favor of VOIP for home phone lines, the POTS landline is definitely going to end up a niche thing.

Cigarettes -
I don't really think this is a 'Facebook' generation thing as much as it is the fact people are better informed about the health risks that come with smoking and the fact it's so god damn expensive. I'd rather spend my disposable money on toys than the brief pleasure a cigarette would give me.

Desktop computers -
These aren't going anywhere, but they will end up being seen more as a thing for enthusiasts and hobbyists. Laptops are currently at the point that they're 'powerful enough' for virtually anything, and their portability and aesthetics (for the more expensive models) makes them a very attractive replacement for desktop computers. For those that need performance, whether it's a gaming PC, a CAD machine, a machine expected to a lot of modeling and rendering, etc etc, the desktop will always be their best bet. It may end up more of a niche market, but the Facebook generation will still be very familiar with them.

Television -
If you mean television, as in the big thing that shows pretty pictures, then no. The television isn't going anywhere because most people's media centers/gaming consoles are connected to one. As far as things like television programs on cable and what not, that won't go away any more than newspapers will. They'll change mediums and pricing structures over time.
 
2012-04-21 05:01:04 PM
I'm drunk on Sam Adams and haven't read the article or the thread. Fark you all.
 
2012-04-21 05:01:08 PM

brantgoose: 1. Email - Don't use it much except at work.
2. Regular Beer - NO.
3. Newspapers - Online. I pay for the local paper, mean to stop as I scarcely read it.
4. Cars - NO.
5. Landlines - Yes. The Great Blackout reminded me why I can't quit Bell until I'm sure a cellphone will work in a power outage. I don't have a cellphone but I love Google Phone because it's free and works just as well as a landline.
6. Cigarettes - NO.
7. Desktop Computers - NO. My desktop is dead.
8. Television - Barely. It comes on automatically in the morning for an hour to help wake me up if the alarm clock fails. I barely even watch my favourite shows any more.

I was "Millennial" before Millennial was cool--or born for that matter.

I can't help but noticing that Millennials are like that because they are young, foolish and poor.

Well, even two out of three isn't bad. I grew up under the Baby Boomer generation, only I've been doing it twice as long as you have kids, so STFU! I've heard it all and most of it is wrong.


So I should get off your lawn then???
 
2012-04-21 05:01:53 PM
I don't think I could get away without a landline. Cell service in the local area is bad at best with the exception of AT&T. I have a couple of devices that make things better - U-verse (internet) phone service for the general phone that my better two thirds lives on, an OOMA from Woot for my business phone, and an adapter (as well as google voice) that sends all calls to the wifeless home phones that I have spread otu rather than using the 2K minutes my wife loves to use up.
 
2012-04-21 05:02:01 PM
10. Condoms. They will all be virgins until the day they die. Even the gay ones.
 
2012-04-21 05:02:30 PM

Horse Head Bookends: Britney Spear's Speculum: 9. Retirement plans

10. Health Insurance

11. Houses

12. Porn


13. Valentines day presents
 
2012-04-21 05:02:57 PM
Male, 28

1. Email - Use at work and for messaging family; contact friends on Facebook
2. Regular Beer - I've actually gone the opposite direction and mostly drink extra strong beer
3. Newspapers - Rarely ever read
4. Cars - I have a car but I don't have a huge interest in cars
5. Landlines - No landline, mobile only
6. Cigarettes - Very seldom - only if I'm drunk and someone offers
7. Desktop Computers - Am still a desktop person but I also have a netbook that I use occasionally
8. Television - Only use to watch the news and hockey; everything else I watch on my computer
 
2012-04-21 05:04:39 PM

Krymson Tyde: I've said for years this, the loss of revenue by tobacco companies, is what will ultimately lead to the decriminalization of marijuana. The government will give it to them to sell and collect taxes on. They will keep getting richer which will keep campaign contributions, lobbying money, and flat out bribes flowing to elected officials.


But at least we'll be really, really baked so it won't seem as bad.
 
2012-04-21 05:05:31 PM
On "beer"- note the author is being stupidly nitpicky.
The author means "real" beer not "lite" beer, cause today's kids, you know, they cannot handle so they only drink "lite".

Hell, if you've ever only had Budweiser, you STILL haven't ever had REAL beer, mister author.
/tell me when you've drank a beer you couldn't see through...one that was "liquid bread"
 
2012-04-21 05:05:49 PM
2.- Beer

Bah, this is bullshiat.

/I've discovered Boddingtons, and I think I'm in love
 
2012-04-21 05:05:57 PM
1. Email
-Only at work

2. Regular Beer
-Mead

3. Newspapers
-I don't fish

4. Cars
-Rural life But I have horses for back up.

5. Landlines
-No signal where I live.

6. Cigarettes
-When they make them with THC, get back to me.

7. Desktop Computers
-Only at work and at home. Otherwise, off-line.

8. Television
-Why do you think they call it programming, anyway?
 
2012-04-21 05:06:43 PM
Facebook is for old people.

I'm too old for Facebook.

Get off my lawn.
 
2012-04-21 05:06:48 PM

VictoryCabal: Who pays for email? True Patriots who love America more than you, that's who.


If they are serious about the anonomous part, it might be worth paying for.
 
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