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(MSNBC)   Paul McCartney, David Bowie, and Phish will be releasing limited edition 45s today for Record Store Day. Tomorrow, those same artists will be releasing limited edition coachwhips for Buggy Whip Store day   (entertainment.msnbc.msn.com) divider line 48
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2012-04-21 07:43:22 AM  
Are there enough handicap spaces for the limos?
 
2012-04-21 10:22:27 AM  
 
2012-04-21 10:30:38 AM  
What's phish doing in there?....
 
2012-04-21 10:34:44 AM  

bump: What's phish doing in there?....


Getting stoned and appealing to hipster douchebags.
 
2012-04-21 10:36:42 AM  
But I like Buggy Whips...
 
2012-04-21 10:37:23 AM  
What Sir Paul might say to subby:

"I'm never going to believe I'm 70, I don't care what you say... You get the argument 'Make way for the young kids, and you think, 'fark that, let them make way for themselves. If they're better than me, they'll beat me.' Foo Fighters don't have a problem, they're good. They'll do their thing. If you're enjoying it, why do something else? And what would you do? Well, a good answer is 'Take more holidays,' which is definitely on the cards, but I don't seem to do that. I love what I do so much that I don't really want to stop. I'm just kind of casually keeping an eye on how I feel, and onstage, it feels like it's always felt. So for the time being, the band's hot, I'm really enjoying myself, still singing like I sang, not experiencing, touch wood, any sort of problems to speak of. If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Get off my lawn
 
2012-04-21 10:38:24 AM  
DEVO is releasing this: http://clubdevo.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=2835:devo-liv e-1981-seattle-2-lp-set-release-in-april&Itemid=27
 
2012-04-21 10:42:46 AM  
Mugato: bump: What's phish doing in there?....

Getting stoned and appealing to hipster douchebags.


They're not hipsters, they're trustafarians.
 
2012-04-21 11:04:43 AM  
www.chunklet.com
 
2012-04-21 11:13:41 AM  
Vinyl as a medium absolutely sucks. It's bundlesome and degrades every time you play it. I've sold vintage records on Ebay and started buying records in high school years ago pre-internet because you could get them for 50 cents at flea markets and yard sales and was therefore a great way to find older stuff I'd never heard before, but compared to CDs, FLAC and even high quality mp3s, vinyl is inferior.
 
2012-04-21 11:16:09 AM  

Boris S. Wort: [www.chunklet.com image 270x297]


i.imgur.com
 
2012-04-21 11:18:11 AM  

El Freak: Vinyl as a medium absolutely sucks. It's bundlesome and degrades every time you play it. I've sold vintage records on Ebay and started buying records in high school years ago pre-internet because you could get them for 50 cents at flea markets and yard sales and was therefore a great way to find older stuff I'd never heard before, but compared to CDs, FLAC and even high quality mp3s, vinyl is inferior.


It's worth it for stuff you can't get in CD or MP3... Like the Beatles in mono as it was meant to be heard. Also for collectors items. But otherwise I think you're right. The sound degrades pretty quickly.
 
2012-04-21 11:22:01 AM  
Phish also has a release planned for "veggie burrito drum circle" day.
 
2012-04-21 11:26:46 AM  

Waxing_Chewbacca: El Freak: Vinyl as a medium absolutely sucks. It's bundlesome and degrades every time you play it. I've sold vintage records on Ebay and started buying records in high school years ago pre-internet because you could get them for 50 cents at flea markets and yard sales and was therefore a great way to find older stuff I'd never heard before, but compared to CDs, FLAC and even high quality mp3s, vinyl is inferior.

It's worth it for stuff you can't get in CD or MP3... Like the Beatles in mono as it was meant to be heard. Also for collectors items. But otherwise I think you're right. The sound degrades pretty quickly.


the Beatles albums were released in Mono on CD as well, albeit in a boxset. (To stem off another argument: I think the CD gets blamed largely for mismanagement by the record companies than any actual faults in the medium.)
 
2012-04-21 11:34:44 AM  

FeedTheCollapse: Waxing_Chewbacca: El Freak: Vinyl as a medium absolutely sucks. It's bundlesome and degrades every time you play it. I've sold vintage records on Ebay and started buying records in high school years ago pre-internet because you could get them for 50 cents at flea markets and yard sales and was therefore a great way to find older stuff I'd never heard before, but compared to CDs, FLAC and even high quality mp3s, vinyl is inferior.

It's worth it for stuff you can't get in CD or MP3... Like the Beatles in mono as it was meant to be heard. Also for collectors items. But otherwise I think you're right. The sound degrades pretty quickly.

the Beatles albums were released in Mono on CD as well, albeit in a boxset. (To stem off another argument: I think the CD gets blamed largely for mismanagement by the record companies than any actual faults in the medium.)


I did not know that. Have to pick those up.
 
2012-04-21 11:40:06 AM  

El Freak: Vinyl as a medium absolutely sucks. It's bundlesome and degrades every time you play it. I've sold vintage records on Ebay and started buying records in high school years ago pre-internet because you could get them for 50 cents at flea markets and yard sales and was therefore a great way to find older stuff I'd never heard before, but compared to CDs, FLAC and even high quality mp3s, vinyl is inferior.


Uhmm. No.

I found my "high school" cartridge a couple of days ago. It's a Signet MR5 B. It's a higher end Audio Technica. In 1987, it was about $150. It FREAKING BLOWS AWAY digital. I recorded Tracy Lawrence's Sticks and Stones from a 45 using 96khz. The preamp is a Stromberg Carlson stereo made in 1961. I encoded it in ACC, so there was little loss.

Stereo separation was extremely clear on the cart directly from the turntable. The sense of Tracy actually being in the room was definitely there. There's a level of acoustic guitars that are higher up on the frequency range on this song, and they are VERY distinct on the record, but are almost gone on the cd/mp3 version. They sound very muddy.

Take care of the vinyl, don't play it on a record player that sucks, and it will last longer than you think. I still have records from the 80's that sound like they were new.
 
2012-04-21 11:48:35 AM  

Waxing_Chewbacca: El Freak: Vinyl as a medium absolutely sucks. It's bundlesome and degrades every time you play it. I've sold vintage records on Ebay and started buying records in high school years ago pre-internet because you could get them for 50 cents at flea markets and yard sales and was therefore a great way to find older stuff I'd never heard before, but compared to CDs, FLAC and even high quality mp3s, vinyl is inferior.

It's worth it for stuff you can't get in CD or MP3... Like the Beatles in mono as it was meant to be heard. Also for collectors items. But otherwise I think you're right. The sound degrades pretty quickly.


We have a vinyl to mp3 turntable. If I find something that I can't find on CD, I can rip it to our computer. From there, it becomes as fully portable as any other MP3. Audacity is free, and it can remove any excessive pops and cracks.

Funny, the thing I miss the most about vinyl is album covers. It makes me sad that an entire area of art and photography went away when vinyl died. And, I am sorry, but nothing ever worked as well as a double album for cleaning pot.
 
2012-04-21 11:55:01 AM  
I still have my Discwasher record (and stylus) cleaner, and my trusty Techniques turntable. I have records that I've had for close to thirty years that are still in quite good condition. But prefer vinyl to a CD? Not a chance.

Sean Olive is director of acoustic research at Harman International. He joins us from the studios of NPR West in Culver City, California. Welcome to SCIENCE FRIDAY, Dr. Olive.

DANKOSKY: Sean Olive, I have to ask you. I think I know your answer, but vinyl or CD?

OLIVE: Definitely CD.

DANKOSKY: Yeah? So tell me why.

OLIVE: Well, I mean, I grew up listening to records up until about '85, when the CD was already out. And I was involved in testing loudspeakers up at the National Research Council in Canada. And we were testing cartridges at that time, and it was quite apparent that the amount of distortion coming out of these devices was very high compared to CD. So what we found was that vinyl was a limiting factor in our ability to do accurate and reliable listening tests on loudspeakers, and we had to find a more reliable and more accurate medium.


Why Vinyl Sounds Better Than CD, Or Not
 
2012-04-21 12:22:19 PM  
achewood.com
 
2012-04-21 12:28:52 PM  
I'm going to assume that the Lana Del Rey vinyls stay on the shelf the longest.
 
2012-04-21 12:32:04 PM  

Repo Man:
Why Vinyl Sounds Better Than CD, Or Not


Thanks for that, listening now.

I do kinda find it funny that the music producer and audio expert is popping his P's into the mic the whole time.
 
2012-04-21 12:34:58 PM  
Jack White just adjusted his bow tie and bought 5 copies of them while ranting about how technology kills art.

He then got punched in the face and people cheered.
 
2012-04-21 12:40:55 PM  

Waxing_Chewbacca: FeedTheCollapse: Waxing_Chewbacca: El Freak: Vinyl as a medium absolutely sucks. It's bundlesome and degrades every time you play it. I've sold vintage records on Ebay and started buying records in high school years ago pre-internet because you could get them for 50 cents at flea markets and yard sales and was therefore a great way to find older stuff I'd never heard before, but compared to CDs, FLAC and even high quality mp3s, vinyl is inferior.

It's worth it for stuff you can't get in CD or MP3... Like the Beatles in mono as it was meant to be heard. Also for collectors items. But otherwise I think you're right. The sound degrades pretty quickly.

the Beatles albums were released in Mono on CD as well, albeit in a boxset. (To stem off another argument: I think the CD gets blamed largely for mismanagement by the record companies than any actual faults in the medium.)

I did not know that. Have to pick those up.


All their singles and EPs were also released on CD in mono boxed sets about 20 years ago.
 
2012-04-21 12:46:03 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-04-21 12:48:54 PM  

Funbags: [i.imgur.com image 407x405]


I wonder how long until the cassette-based Walkman makes its comeback.
 
2012-04-21 12:49:00 PM  

DeaH: Waxing_Chewbacca: El Freak: Vinyl as a medium absolutely sucks. It's bundlesome and degrades every time you play it. I've sold vintage records on Ebay and started buying records in high school years ago pre-internet because you could get them for 50 cents at flea markets and yard sales and was therefore a great way to find older stuff I'd never heard before, but compared to CDs, FLAC and even high quality mp3s, vinyl is inferior.

It's worth it for stuff you can't get in CD or MP3... Like the Beatles in mono as it was meant to be heard. Also for collectors items. But otherwise I think you're right. The sound degrades pretty quickly.

We have a vinyl to mp3 turntable. If I find something that I can't find on CD, I can rip it to our computer. From there, it becomes as fully portable as any other MP3. Audacity is free, and it can remove any excessive pops and cracks.

Funny, the thing I miss the most about vinyl is album covers. It makes me sad that an entire area of art and photography went away when vinyl died. And, I am sorry, but nothing ever worked as well as a double album for cleaning pot.


I don't have one of them fancy converting turntables, what I do have, is an extra low level output on my amp that I run right into the soundcard of the media computer that's part of that whole rig. And yes, I use audacity for the final mixdown and master.

And ill agree with ya on the album art bit as well
 
2012-04-21 12:56:03 PM  
Here's what's going to happen:

Record store owners and employees will buy up all these rare, limited-edition 45s before their store even opens. They can do this because they're not corporate-owned. They're mom & pop stores and they pretty much set the rules on who can purchase what, when.

Stores will open, and the word will be "we're sold out."

Tomorrow, the vinyl limited editions will show up on the shelves again, except now for about 10 times the original price.

And that's why mom & pop record stores are rare, going out of business, and come off as shady and snobby. It's also why you won't find an actual record store anywhere except college towns or trendy coastal cities.
 
2012-04-21 12:57:41 PM  
I just want the Buck Owens coloring book. Link
 
2012-04-21 01:04:33 PM  

Tellingthem: I just want the Buck Owens coloring book. Link


They're not going to put him in the movies, nor will he be the biggest fool to ever hit the bigtime with a coloring book.

/he may finally get that job mowing grass, though.
 
2012-04-21 01:11:04 PM  
Already happening, and it's no joke. I'm buying them for a buck at thrift stores and selling on ebay for $10.


Lee's_Austin: Funbags: [i.imgur.com image 407x405]

I wonder how long until the cassette-based Walkman makes its comeback.

 
2012-04-21 01:18:36 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Here's what's going to happen:

Record store owners and employees will buy up all these rare, limited-edition 45s before their store even opens. They can do this because they're not corporate-owned. They're mom & pop stores and they pretty much set the rules on who can purchase what, when.

Stores will open, and the word will be "we're sold out."

Tomorrow, the vinyl limited editions will show up on the shelves again, except now for about 10 times the original price.

And that's why mom & pop record stores are rare, going out of business, and come off as shady and snobby. It's also why you won't find an actual record store anywhere except college towns or trendy coastal cities.


Tampa is trendy?
 
2012-04-21 01:19:27 PM  

JoanHaus: Already happening, and it's no joke. I'm buying them for a buck at thrift stores and selling on ebay for $10.


Lee's_Austin: Funbags: [i.imgur.com image 407x405]

I wonder how long until the cassette-based Walkman makes its comeback.


$10. Nice. Do you ship a complimentary cassette as well?
 
2012-04-21 02:10:54 PM  

Mugato: bump: What's phish doing in there?....

Getting stoned and appealing to hipster douchebags.


Not anymore. The stoned part, cannot say about the douchebags.
 
2012-04-21 03:18:59 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Here's what's going to happen:

Record store owners and employees will buy up all these rare, limited-edition 45s before their store even opens. They can do this because they're not corporate-owned. They're mom & pop stores and they pretty much set the rules on who can purchase what, when.

Stores will open, and the word will be "we're sold out."

Tomorrow, the vinyl limited editions will show up on the shelves again, except now for about 10 times the original price.

And that's why mom & pop record stores are rare, going out of business, and come off as shady and snobby. It's also why you won't find an actual record store anywhere except college towns or trendy coastal cities.


Meh... the Phish release of "Junta" for RSD started showing up on ebay for $200 or so. 2 days before RSD no less.
 
2012-04-21 03:24:09 PM  

karmaceutical: ZeroCorpse: Here's what's going to happen:

Record store owners and employees will buy up all these rare, limited-edition 45s before their store even opens. They can do this because they're not corporate-owned. They're mom & pop stores and they pretty much set the rules on who can purchase what, when.

Stores will open, and the word will be "we're sold out."

Tomorrow, the vinyl limited editions will show up on the shelves again, except now for about 10 times the original price.

And that's why mom & pop record stores are rare, going out of business, and come off as shady and snobby. It's also why you won't find an actual record store anywhere except college towns or trendy coastal cities.

Meh... the Phish release of "Junta" for RSD started showing up on ebay for $200 or so. 2 days before RSD no less.


the Buck Owens coloring book is already on there for $100. i figure i can wait a few weeks and snag one for a lot less...hopefully
 
2012-04-21 03:38:37 PM  

DeaH: And, I am sorry, but nothing ever worked as well as a double album for cleaning pot.


THIS. Have you ever tried to roll a joint on a CD jewel case? Such a pain in the ass.
 
2012-04-21 03:54:33 PM  

Tellingthem: .

Meh... the Phish release of "Junta" for RSD started showing up on ebay for $200 or so. 2 days before RSD no less.



Phish fans collect all sorts of weird stuff.

I made 3000 of these for NYE 2011 and they are still selling for over a hundred bucks on ebay.

Phish Meatstick/a>
 
2012-04-21 04:02:39 PM  

T.M.S.: Tellingthem: .

Meh... the Phish release of "Junta" for RSD started showing up on ebay for $200 or so. 2 days before RSD no less.



Phish fans collect all sorts of weird stuff.

I made 3000 of these for NYE 2011 and they are still selling for over a hundred bucks on ebay.

Phish Meatstick/a>


Those are pretty neat... if you are into that kind of thing. I made a mistake in underestimating the Phish memorabilia market a long time ago. I sold off all my Pollock posters and related schwag for a decent bit of coin. Today, I probably could have bought a nice sports car with the same stuff. I sold my LP of Lawn Boy for a couple bills, which was a nice price 7 years ago. Goes for better than a grand today. I've got a UK Parlophone first pressing (first stampers and everything) of Sgt. Pepper's that hasn't appreciated like that...
 
2012-04-21 04:12:24 PM  

karmaceutical: T.M.S.: Tellingthem: .

Meh... the Phish release of "Junta" for RSD started showing up on ebay for $200 or so. 2 days before RSD no less.



Phish fans collect all sorts of weird stuff.

I made 3000 of these for NYE 2011 and they are still selling for over a hundred bucks on ebay.

Phish Meatstick/a>

Those are pretty neat... if you are into that kind of thing. I made a mistake in underestimating the Phish memorabilia market a long time ago. I sold off all my Pollock posters and related schwag for a decent bit of coin. Today, I probably could have bought a nice sports car with the same stuff. I sold my LP of Lawn Boy for a couple bills, which was a nice price 7 years ago. Goes for better than a grand today. I've got a UK Parlophone first pressing (first stampers and everything) of Sgt. Pepper's that hasn't appreciated like that...


I still have a bunch of the hotdogs but mostly we use them as bathtoys for my kids.

The only posters I own are for the gigs I designed.
 
2012-04-21 05:51:50 PM  

Lee's_Austin: I'm going to assume that the Lana Del Rey vinyls stay on the shelf the longest.


That's actually the only one I bought.
 
2012-04-21 06:47:01 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: I think the CD gets blamed largely for mismanagement by the record companies than any actual faults in the medium.


When they were first introduced, engineers didn't know how to mix for CD. They were so used to overcompensating on the high end for what was going to be lost during the vinyl pressing process that it took them several years to adjust.
 
2012-04-21 07:04:41 PM  
tried to get the Pollock Junta at three different spots and they were gone.

/didn't "really" try like the dude outside Electric Fetus 8 hours early...
 
2012-04-21 07:24:34 PM  

nightlyraider: tried to get the Pollock Junta at three different spots and they were gone.

/didn't "really" try like the dude outside Electric Fetus 8 hours early...


I was excited to get one till I saw ebay (yesterday) and realized it was probably a fools errand. I guess I'll have to pay the price if I really, really want one.
 
2012-04-21 07:40:15 PM  

MacWizard: FeedTheCollapse: I think the CD gets blamed largely for mismanagement by the record companies than any actual faults in the medium.

When they were first introduced, engineers didn't know how to mix for CD. They were so used to overcompensating on the high end for what was going to be lost during the vinyl pressing process that it took them several years to adjust.




ha, I wondered that as most of my early CDs are very high in the midrange and treble ranges, but any released around 1995 or so tend to be properly mastered.


but yeah, that's one example that a lot of pro-vinyl enthusiasts still cite to this day that isn't really a fault of the medium. I would also add the record labels phasing out singles in the 90s (in the US, at least), never lowering the price of the CD (pretty much the opposite), over-compression*, etc. I also thought they never fully capitalised on Enhanced CDs , going quite the opposite direction with their anti-piracy measures. (The DualDisc format offered more content but was generally pretty terrible in terms of portability)

*I've frequently seen this cited in Loudness Wars articles as why vinyl is superior, though it underscores vinyl's limitations to me.
 
2012-04-22 10:33:41 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Lee's_Austin: I'm going to assume that the Lana Del Rey vinyls stay on the shelf the longest.

That's actually the only one I bought.


Was it any good?
 
2012-04-22 05:37:36 PM  

T.M.S.: karmaceutical: T.M.S.: Tellingthem: .

Meh... the Phish release of "Junta" for RSD started showing up on ebay for $200 or so. 2 days before RSD no less.



Phish fans collect all sorts of weird stuff.

I made 3000 of these for NYE 2011 and they are still selling for over a hundred bucks on ebay.

Phish Meatstick/a>

Those are pretty neat... if you are into that kind of thing. I made a mistake in underestimating the Phish memorabilia market a long time ago. I sold off all my Pollock posters and related schwag for a decent bit of coin. Today, I probably could have bought a nice sports car with the same stuff. I sold my LP of Lawn Boy for a couple bills, which was a nice price 7 years ago. Goes for better than a grand today. I've got a UK Parlophone first pressing (first stampers and everything) of Sgt. Pepper's that hasn't appreciated like that...

I still have a bunch of the hotdogs but mostly we use them as bathtoys for my kids.

The only posters I own are for the gigs I designed.


I have a Phish poster from Halloween 1986. Think the Phish fans would pay $$?
 
2012-04-23 09:31:01 PM  

Lee's_Austin: Rev. Skarekroe: Lee's_Austin: I'm going to assume that the Lana Del Rey vinyls stay on the shelf the longest.

That's actually the only one I bought.

Was it any good?


It's just a couple of remixes. But I'm the kind of guy who collects such things, so I enjoyed it. I also wanted to pin the record to my office wall with all my other cooler (or cooler looking) vinyl.
 
2012-04-24 11:54:48 AM  
El Freak

"Vinyl as a medium absolutely sucks. It's bundlesome and degrades every time you play it. I've sold vintage records on Ebay and started buying records in high school years ago pre-internet because you could get them for 50 cents at flea markets and yard sales and was therefore a great way to find older stuff I'd never heard before, but compared to CDs, FLAC and even high quality mp3s, vinyl is inferior."

Vinyl is inferior if:

1) You have a crappy turntable.
2) You have a worn stylus
3) A misadjusted tonearm
4) You haven't properly wet-cleaned your records with either a machine or steam.
5) You abuse them.
6) You're not willing to invest minimal time and effort keeping them up.

It's surprisingly simple to keep records sounding great for countless plays. I have 50 year old jazz LPs that still sound spectacular with very minimal noise. I have plenty of 30 year old vinyl that sounds dead quiet & downright mint.

If you really think vinyl is inferior to everything else, you haven't heard a really good pressing played on a properly adjusted good system.

On the flipside, there are plenty of folks who think that vinyl sounds better than digital even if it's banged up garage sale records played on a crap plastic Crosley USB turntable. These people are delusional. Analog & digital playback mediums both have equal ability for high quality or low quality. Anything is only as good as it's weakest link.
 
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