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(Chicago Sun-Times)   Disney stock rises on news that the idiot who's been releasing big-budget bombs about Mars has finally left. Can we please put someone from Pixar in charge, already?   (suntimes.com) divider line 105
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2012-04-21 07:56:59 AM
That's beautiful. Every time a studio suit gets canned a demon gets his wings.
 
2012-04-21 07:59:07 AM
The book they based that movie, which isn't bad, on is called "John Carpenter WARLORD OF MARS"

The person who decided to change the title shouldn't be fired, they should be shot because they're obviously too stupid to live.
 
2012-04-21 08:06:50 AM

doglover: The person who decided to change the title shouldn't be fired, they should be shot because they're obviously too stupid to live.


It was a studio suit. Someone must have showed him some graph that movies with the word "Mars" doesn't skew with the target demo or however they talk.

Actually, movies with "Mars" in the title really don't do well as a rule. Mission to Mars, Mars Attacks, Red Planet (Mars was taken that year), Mars Needs Moms, Ghosts of Mars....Total Recall was about Mars but avoided using the word and did well. Maybe that's what was rattling around in his coke addled head.
 
2012-04-21 08:18:36 AM

Mugato: Mars Needs Moms,


That guy should have been fired after that one. Every trailer and commercial made it seem like it was the stupidest movie ever made. When the DVD came out and the commercials featured a stupid 30-second rap then I wanted to punch my TV.
 
2012-04-21 08:23:47 AM
He had brought "High School Musical" and "Hannah Montana" to TV audiences when he headed Disney Channels Worldwide.

I guess it doesn't matter that he's Jewish, Christ wouldn't have forgiven him for that anyway.


Aar1012: Mugato: Mars Needs Moms,

That guy should have been fired after that one


I had to sit through that with my niece. The director's cut was him cutting his wrists.
 
2012-04-21 08:41:02 AM

Mugato: It was a studio suit.


Better make it a shot to the chest, then. Studio executives' brains are far too small to hit by aiming at the head.
 
2012-04-21 08:59:31 AM
Pixar? Why? Brave is the only Pixar movie that has actually caught my attention and interest, every other movie is "meh, overrated" in my book.
 
2012-04-21 09:53:31 AM
Yeah, subby! Put Andrew Stanton in charge!
 
2012-04-21 09:54:51 AM

Dinobot: Pixar? Why?


Because every single movie they have made has made money, which is unheard of in Hollywood.

I remember hearing something a while ago that basically said that of 10 films put out by a studio, 7 will lose money - 1 will break even - 1 will make a small profit - and you will get 1 blockbuster which pays for rest.
 
2012-04-21 10:04:11 AM

Dinobot: Pixar? Why? Brave is the only Pixar movie that has actually caught my attention and interest, every other movie is "meh, overrated" in my book.


Hollywood's goal isn't to amuse Dinobot it is to make money. Pixar has done an amazing job at getting people to see their movies.
 
2012-04-21 10:09:30 AM

Dinobot: Pixar? Why? Brave is the only Pixar movie that has actually caught my attention and interest, every other movie is "meh, overrated" in my book.


Know how I know you're a ginger?

Hint: it's because you don't have a soul
 
2012-04-21 10:09:40 AM

Archie Goodwin: Dinobot: Pixar? Why?

Because every single movie they have made has made money, which is unheard of in Hollywood.

I remember hearing something a while ago that basically said that of 10 films put out by a studio, 7 will lose money - 1 will break even - 1 will make a small profit - and you will get 1 blockbuster which pays for rest.


Carth: Dinobot: Pixar? Why? Brave is the only Pixar movie that has actually caught my attention and interest, every other movie is "meh, overrated" in my book.

Hollywood's goal isn't to amuse Dinobot it is to make money. Pixar has done an amazing job at getting people to see their movies.


Put that way, yeah, I'd completely understand that. I've given my money to pixar as well as I've seen all their movies at the theater ('cept Cars 2)

Just saying that, in my personal opinion, Pixar is completely overrated. All their movies have failed to capture me.

I was more emotionally invested while watching "How to train your dragon" than all of Pixar's movies combined.

The only exception seems it will be Brave, which has really sparked my interest.
 
2012-04-21 10:11:05 AM

doglover: The book they based that movie, which isn't bad, on is called "John Carpenter WARLORD OF MARS"

The person who decided to change the title shouldn't be fired, they should be shot because they're obviously too stupid to live.


Um.
 
2012-04-21 10:11:39 AM

Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: Dinobot: Pixar? Why? Brave is the only Pixar movie that has actually caught my attention and interest, every other movie is "meh, overrated" in my book.

Know how I know you're a ginger?

Hint: it's because you don't have a soul


Not a ginger, was gonna marry one though -- you could say she sucked out my soul.

But seriously, all the pixar movies have failed in making me feel emotionally invested in the plots. Which is why I don't get everyone's fascination with Pixar.
 
2012-04-21 10:11:48 AM
Will Robot Chicken be doing a "Pluto Nash" version of John Carter?

Pluto Nash (NSFW)
 
2012-04-21 10:15:53 AM
I heard from one of my friends that John Carter is actually a pretty good movie. The story is well modernized - it keeps with the spirit of the book, but changes the parts which would seem painfully dated to most viewers. There are a couple of minor plot holes, but it's not any worse than most other SF movies.

Disney just decided that they needed a tax write-off and when the movie didn't rocket quite as high as they wanted, they just pressed "self destruct" and told the world it was a flop after it was out only three days
 
2012-04-21 10:18:47 AM
Moms? Pfft. Mars needs women. Angry red women.
 
2012-04-21 10:19:02 AM

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Disney just decided that they needed a tax write-off and when the movie didn't rocket quite as high as they wanted, they just pressed "self destruct" and told the world it was a flop after it was out only three days


Studios inflate their reported budget to do that. John Carter did not cost $250mill to make.
 
2012-04-21 10:21:30 AM

Dinobot: Archie Goodwin: Dinobot: Pixar? Why?

Because every single movie they have made has made money, which is unheard of in Hollywood.

I remember hearing something a while ago that basically said that of 10 films put out by a studio, 7 will lose money - 1 will break even - 1 will make a small profit - and you will get 1 blockbuster which pays for rest.

Carth: Dinobot: Pixar? Why? Brave is the only Pixar movie that has actually caught my attention and interest, every other movie is "meh, overrated" in my book.

Hollywood's goal isn't to amuse Dinobot it is to make money. Pixar has done an amazing job at getting people to see their movies.

Put that way, yeah, I'd completely understand that. I've given my money to pixar as well as I've seen all their movies at the theater ('cept Cars 2)

Just saying that, in my personal opinion, Pixar is completely overrated. All their movies have failed to capture me.

I was more emotionally invested while watching "How to train your dragon" than all of Pixar's movies combined.

The only exception seems it will be Brave, which has really sparked my interest.


You better have kids, because why in the hell would you go 15 years of movies from one studio only to keeping saying meh? Oh right, to biatch about it on the internet.
 
2012-04-21 10:25:32 AM

drewsclues: You better have kids, because why in the hell would you go 15 years of movies from one studio only to keeping saying meh? Oh right, to biatch about it on the internet.


I watched the early pixar movies as a kid, with a bunch of my friends -- the latter half with my nieces and nephews.
 
2012-04-21 10:27:16 AM

Dinobot: Pixar? Why? Brave is the only Pixar movie that has actually caught my attention and interest, every other movie is "meh, overrated" in my book.


You do realize that the first fifteen minutes of Up is actually a human Turing test, right? If you didn't at least shed a tear, you failed.

/Pixar may not always write the greatest movies, I'm looking at you Cars 2, but, as has been pointed out, they always make money hand over fist
 
2012-04-21 10:28:36 AM
Now that this guy is gone, and the loss was written off entirely in the last quarter, I confidently predict that Disney will mysteriously start to notice that John Carter isn't actually doing that bad, especially overseas, and the narrative will change from "all-time bomb" to "sleeper hit" as it becomes cooler to be one of the few who saw and liked it than one of the many who dismissed it.

Heck, if the rehabilitation campaign goes really well, it might even get a re-release towards the end of the summer when the anticipated blockbusters are out of the way.

And of course, the new studio head will take all the credit.
 
2012-04-21 10:30:15 AM

foo monkey: Yeah, subby! Put Andrew Stanton in charge!

This!
 
2012-04-21 10:31:25 AM
I've never seen a Pixar movie in my life but from what I gather it's an almost 100% successful sub-studio. More successful than anything else Disney's done recently except give me a 100% hard on for their jail bait-turn-slut girls.
 
2012-04-21 10:35:07 AM

Fuggin Bizzy: Moms? Pfft. Mars needs women. Angry,busty red women.



FTFY.
 
2012-04-21 10:37:42 AM
And for the record,I liked John Carter,despite its dismal marketing. So there.
 
2012-04-21 10:42:09 AM

Dinobot: Pixar? Why? Brave is the only Pixar movie that has actually caught my attention and interest, every other movie is "meh, overrated" in my book.


You may be shocked to find that Hollywood has more ambitious goals than entertaining just you.
 
2012-04-21 10:42:50 AM
"John Carter" was a very good movie. Should have stuck with the title "A Princess of Mars" though...
 
2012-04-21 10:46:09 AM

Apos: And for the record,I liked John Carter,despite its dismal marketing. So there.


Me, too. I even farking cried. And I am somewhat soulless. I was on the rag, though. But eh, I was looking forward to John Carter and it was worth my free tickets from the Credit Union.

/Free ticket ($7.00 value) with every $100 deposited into kid's accounts (direct deposit FTW!)
//Not a bad ROI if you reinvest in entertainment :)
 
2012-04-21 10:47:53 AM

Ginnungagap42: "John Carter" was a very good movie. Should have stuck with the title "A Princess of Mars" though...


Agreed. Disney,desperate to avoid the "Mars in movie title" mega bomb syndrome,only served to hasten it.
 
2012-04-21 10:48:12 AM

doglover: Mugato: It was a studio suit.

Better make it a shot to the chest, then. Studio executives' brains are far too small to hit by aiming at the head.


This.
 
2012-04-21 10:56:30 AM
You know what this means, of course? MORE SEQUELS AND REBOOTS FOR EVERYONE!
 
2012-04-21 10:57:00 AM

Dinobot:

But seriously, all the pixar movies have failed in making me feel emotionally invested in the plots. Which is why I don't get everyone's fascination with Pixar.

Tortoise? What's that?

 
2012-04-21 10:58:03 AM
Pixar really needs to make a short about a pineapple and a hare. if that doesn't clear up the confusion nothing will.
 
2012-04-21 10:59:47 AM
Maybe I'm just behind on my Disney news, but I though someone from Pixar (John Lassiter) already was in charge?
 
2012-04-21 11:09:18 AM

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: Dinobot: Pixar? Why? Brave is the only Pixar movie that has actually caught my attention and interest, every other movie is "meh, overrated" in my book.

You do realize that the first fifteen minutes of Up is actually a human Turing test, right? If you didn't at least shed a tear, you failed.

/Pixar may not always write the greatest movies, I'm looking at you Cars 2, but, as has been pointed out, they always make money hand over fist


I can name at least 2 Pixar movies that did NOT make money hand over fist.

1. Beach Chair: The movie.
2. hand and face animation, first used in Futureworld.
 
2012-04-21 11:10:03 AM

Apos: Ginnungagap42: "John Carter" was a very good movie. Should have stuck with the title "A Princess of Mars" though...

Agreed. Disney,desperate to avoid the "Mars in movie title" mega bomb syndrome,only served to hasten it.


Nice try, Disney marketing execs.
 
2012-04-21 11:14:56 AM
Disney stock rises on news that the idiot who's been releasing big-budget bombs about Mars has finally left. Can we please put someone from Pixar in charge, already?

Uh... You mean like John Lasseter?
 
2012-04-21 11:37:27 AM
Disney's last great movie was Hercules.

Everything else since then has been complete garbage. Somewhere along the line, great ideas and artistic visionaries were sacrificed to the fire for market trends and profit forecasts.

/Walt is rolling in his grave.
//Pixar is excluded from the above statement.
 
2012-04-21 11:38:44 AM

blacksharpiemarker: Disney's last great movie was Hercules.

Everything else since then has been complete garbage. Somewhere along the line, great ideas and artistic visionaries were sacrificed to the fire for market trends and profit forecasts.

/Walt is rolling in his grave.
//Pixar is excluded from the above statement.


I enjoyed Tangled and Bolt
 
2012-04-21 11:44:47 AM

Apos: And for the record,I liked John Carter,despite its dismal marketing. So there.


This.
 
2012-04-21 11:45:41 AM

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: You do realize that the first fifteen minutes of Up is actually a human Turing test, right? If you didn't at least shed a tear, you failed.


More of a Voight-Kampff test, but otherwise you're correct.
 
2012-04-21 11:47:19 AM

Carth: blacksharpiemarker: Disney's last great movie was Hercules.

Everything else since then has been complete garbage. Somewhere along the line, great ideas and artistic visionaries were sacrificed to the fire for market trends and profit forecasts.

/Walt is rolling in his grave.
//Pixar is excluded from the above statement.

I enjoyed Tangled and Bolt


I wouldn't say Lilo & Stitch or Dinosaur were "complete garbage" either.

/and Disney's involvement with Pixar and Studio Ghibli makes up for a lot
 
2012-04-21 11:49:10 AM

HPunster: foo monkey: Yeah, subby! Put Andrew Stanton in charge! This!


Exactly. Stanton made Wall-E and Finding Nemo and John Carter, a movie he had so much say over that it was impossible for Disney's marketing team to do their jobs correctly.
 
2012-04-21 12:04:37 PM

Ivo Shandor: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: You do realize that the first fifteen minutes of Up is actually a human Turing test, right? If you didn't at least shed a tear, you failed.

More of a Voight-Kampff test, but otherwise you're correct.


I tried to get "Up" off of Amazon's website. It said. "Customers Who Bought This Item Also Bought a Rope and a Stool".
 
2012-04-21 12:09:30 PM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous:
I enjoyed Tangled and Bolt

I wouldn't say Lilo & Stitch or Dinosaur were "complete garbage" either.

/and Disney's involvement with Pixar and Studio Ghibli makes up for a lot


I apologize, my opinion was not meant to offend. What I was trying to get across is that in my opinion, Hercules was the last of the true Disney classics.

There have been a few notable animated movies since then, one of them being The Iron Giant (Warner Bros.), which despite its initial box office failure had that touch of "magic" that Disney has lacked for a while.
 
2012-04-21 12:11:37 PM

Dinobot: But seriously, all the pixar movies have failed in making me feel emotionally invested in the plots. Which is why I don't get everyone's fascination with Pixar.


We get it - you don't like Pixar. Get over it.
 
2012-04-21 12:14:14 PM

Old enough to know better: Maybe I'm just behind on my Disney news, but I though someone from Pixar (John Lassiter) already was in charge?


Lassiter is the chief creative officer - he is not really in charge of putting out live action movies. He spends most of his time on animated stuff.
 
2012-04-21 12:14:16 PM

Dinobot: Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: Dinobot: Pixar? Why? Brave is the only Pixar movie that has actually caught my attention and interest, every other movie is "meh, overrated" in my book.

Know how I know you're a ginger?

Hint: it's because you don't have a soul

Not a ginger, was gonna marry one though -- you could say she sucked out my soul.

But seriously, all the pixar movies have failed in making me feel emotionally invested in the plots. Which is why I don't get everyone's fascination with Pixar.


Potentially, you have really poor taste.
 
2012-04-21 12:14:30 PM

Carth: blacksharpiemarker: Disney's last great movie was Hercules.

Everything else since then has been complete garbage. Somewhere along the line, great ideas and artistic visionaries were sacrificed to the fire for market trends and profit forecasts.

/Walt is rolling in his grave.
//Pixar is excluded from the above statement.

I enjoyed Tangled and Bolt


Tangled was honestly really good. Pretty meh on every thing else, but that one was surprisingly soild.
 
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