I'd like to see him get together with Al Franken and do a couple of bits for old time's sake...

They're called 'Democrats', Tom.

DeltaPunch: The trend since Reagan is obvious:

What's obvious is that your chart, and the theory behind it, is moronic.

Democrats haven't even remotely become "more liberal", except by comparison to how far to the Right republicans have swung. Saying that liberals have "moved to the left" is like getting in your car and driving away from your house at 100 miles per hour north, and then claiming that your house has "moved south".

BojanglesPaladin: OK.

I think we've covered this as much as it is going to be. You asked I answered. I'm not going to debate it. As I said, I have no interest in re-hashing this all over again. You don't see it and have a very specific and vested interest in your viewpoint. Fair enough.

I'm not asking or expecting that any of you will agree, and I'm reasonably certain that just by stating WHY I think what I do, some of you will launch into insult laden screeds about how no one in their right mind could think such a thing, and I can;t stop you, but you should know I'm not arguing a point, I'm stating an opinion and answering a question that was asked. You are free and welcome to disagree, but I don't need to hear about it. Not because you don't have good reasons, but because I am happy to accept that you see it differently and I am not asking you to explain yourself.

/keep in mind that there was a time when I tended to vote Democrat more often than not.

That's sure a lot of words just to say "I was wrong."

BojanglesPaladin: HeartBurnKid: This idea that the Democrats haven't been compromising is bullshiat,

I believe we were discussing whether or not the Democrats have shifted left in the last few decades. Again, I know that some of you seem to think that the Republican parties' shift right has some sort of subtractive effect on the Democrat's shift.

But either way, I'm pretty sure we were not discussing any party's willingness to compromise.

BojanglesPaladin: As he said, "Both sides have gravitated toward their extremes to satisfy their base. Anyone seen "compromising" won't get re-elected so extremists in both parties are getting their way."

namatad: thomps: FlashHarry: The Republican Party has certainly become more conservative, in the same way that the Democratic Party has become more liberal.

aaaaand that's where i stopped reading.

yeah that's a fairly indefensible statement.

um, because what?
really? people think that the dems have become more liberal??
bwhahahahahahahahaha

I guess if you include rights to the gays and women ...
and standing by their positions which they have had for decades as liberal ....
and not following the GOP into the darkness of the teahadist world views

Maybe he's taking the long view, and comparing the Democratic Party of today with that of, say, 1860?