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2012-04-20 11:54:23 AM  
"I want to make this clear: We are the San Francisco 49ers, and we will always be the San Francisco 49ers."

So let's say I live in San Francisco and I want to go to a game. Sunday game, 10 AM kickoff.
It's what, an hour with traffic to get to the stadium? More/less? Public transportation options, better/worse?

I guess people around there don't seem that upset about it, so maybe it's not that big of a deal. Maybe this stuff it just normal for West Coast fans. We might be a little spoiled in the Central time zone, "watching football game" doesn't necessarily depend on "getting up early on a Sunday morning". Even if you want to tailgate.
 
2012-04-20 11:58:00 AM  

tallguywithglasseson: "I want to make this clear: We are the San Francisco 49ers, and we will always be the San Francisco 49ers."

So let's say I live in San Francisco and I want to go to a game. Sunday game, 10 AM kickoff.
It's what, an hour with traffic to get to the stadium? More/less? Public transportation options, better/worse?

I guess people around there don't seem that upset about it, so maybe it's not that big of a deal. Maybe this stuff it just normal for West Coast fans. We might be a little spoiled in the Central time zone, "watching football game" doesn't necessarily depend on "getting up early on a Sunday morning". Even if you want to tailgate.


10 AM kickoffs don't happen on the West Coast. We get 1 PM games.
 
2012-04-20 12:17:02 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: So let's say I live in San Francisco and I want to go to a game. Sunday game, 10 AM kickoff.
It's what, an hour with traffic to get to the stadium? More/less? Public transportation options, better/worse?


If you live in the city proper, you're boned if you want to go to a game and spend less than two hours in traffic. Public transportation options aren't terribly good, since you've got no BART to Santa Clara, so you're relying on buses essentially (I think CalTrain might go down there).

But then, the only market that anyone in the Bay Area seems to care about now is San Jose, so no one who lives north of the Dumbarton Bridge is really the target audience here.
 
2012-04-20 12:21:43 PM  

Cagey B: tallguywithglasseson: So let's say I live in San Francisco and I want to go to a game. Sunday game, 10 AM kickoff.
It's what, an hour with traffic to get to the stadium? More/less? Public transportation options, better/worse?

If you live in the city proper, you're boned if you want to go to a game and spend less than two hours in traffic. Public transportation options aren't terribly good, since you've got no BART to Santa Clara, so you're relying on buses essentially (I think CalTrain might go down there).

But then, the only market that anyone in the Bay Area seems to care about now is San Jose, so no one who lives north of the Dumbarton Bridge is really the target audience here.


on a Sunday, not counting traffic right near the stadium, you can be there in 50 minutes from SF.

moreover, getting out of candlestick's parking lots is such a mess that one might conceivably be able to get home from the new stadium is about the same amount of time.

nearest Caltrain to the new stadium is about 4 miles away.
 
2012-04-20 12:27:52 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: 10 AM kickoffs don't happen on the West Coast. We get 1 PM games.


Oh, right, duh. I looked at the schedule, didn't bother to see if the 10 AM games were home or away (they're all away).
So nevermind about the early-morning part.

Cagey B: If you live in the city proper, you're boned if you want to go to a game and spend less than two hours in traffic. Public transportation options aren't terribly good, since you've got no BART to Santa Clara, so you're relying on buses essentially (I think CalTrain might go down there).


Ugh, that seems kind of sucky. Seems like they wanted to move to a city with more millionaires, but still wanted to keep the TV/memorabilia/apparel market of SF proper. Hence, "we will always be the San Francisco 49ers, but we're moving out of San Francisco".
But like I said, I don't live there and haven't heard a lot of gnashing of teeth coming out of there, so maybe not that big of a deal.

I'll bet instead of public transportation, you'll see private shuttles services to/fro the city, from sports bars, etc.
 
2012-04-20 12:30:19 PM  

jackiepaper: on a Sunday, not counting traffic right near the stadium, you can be there in 50 minutes from SF.


That's the part that would frighten me. Also I suspect the peninsula is going to get clogged up with people coming down 101 for the games on Sundays.
 
2012-04-20 12:30:49 PM  

jackiepaper: on a Sunday, not counting traffic right near the stadium, you can be there in 50 minutes from SF.

moreover, getting out of candlestick's parking lots is such a mess that one might conceivably be able to get home from the new stadium is about the same amount of time.

nearest Caltrain to the new stadium is about 4 miles away.


Ah, thanks. I was kind of had a feeling most of the locals didn't see it as that big of a deal.
 
2012-04-20 12:31:38 PM  
What's amazing is San Fran will have only 1 actual pro team within the city itself.
 
2012-04-20 12:33:29 PM  

tallguywithglasseson:

Ah, thanks. I was kind of had a feeling most of the locals didn't see it as that big of a deal.


Well, thats not entirely true. Those who grew up with Candlestick and grew up going to Niners games there, are pretty devastated and angered by this.

I've only live here about a decade and both hate going to pro football games because people dont know how to handle their alcohol and think the Stick is a shiathole, so my mileage may vary.
 
2012-04-20 12:34:49 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: What's amazing is San Fran will have only 1 actual pro team within the city itself.


not really amazing, given that we've only had 2 for about 40 years.

and we'll have 2 again in about 5 more, when the Warriors move back
 
2012-04-20 12:54:04 PM  
"Great America 49er's" just doesn't have the ring, you know?

/Foster City 49'ers?
 
2012-04-20 01:02:06 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: Ugh, that seems kind of sucky. Seems like they wanted to move to a city with more millionaires, but still wanted to keep the TV/memorabilia/apparel market of SF proper. Hence, "we will always be the San Francisco 49ers, but we're moving out of San Francisco".


The NY Giants home field is in New Jersey. The Dallas Cowboys are actually from Arlington. I'm sure there's plenty of other teams who are named after a nearby large city/market, rather than the actual location of their home field. And besides, Santa Clara is part of the "San Francisco Bay Area"
 
2012-04-20 01:35:52 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: So let's say I live in San Francisco and I want to go to a game. Sunday game, 10 AM kickoff


How much football do you watch?! West coast home games start at about 2pm Pacific. You mentioned you're in the Central time zone (like me). My team's home games are generally noon Central. When they're over... haven't you noticed they switch to a west-coast game at around 4pm Central? Every week. For the past few decades?
 
2012-04-20 01:37:33 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: 10 AM kickoffs don't happen on the West Coast. We get 1 PM games.


Yep.

San Fran's 2012 schedule.
 
2012-04-20 01:55:16 PM  
As a niner fan who's been going to games since he was 8 or 9, i'm mad that they're moving out of the city proper.

That being said, traffic getting to and from the games will be VASTLY improved. Since they started shortening the time the stadium is open (gates open 4 hours before kickoff) getting in has been a nightmare. Sit in a line of cars to get off the freeway for about an hour AFTER crossing a tunnel and bridge (live in the east bay) and after the games, wait in a line of cars for about 2 hours to get back to the Bay Bridge. In santa clara? 6 lane highway in and out. I'm going to miss the Stick for sure, but this will be an improvement.

the cost of seats at the new stadium though? Yikes
 
2012-04-20 01:58:26 PM  

Nickdude: As a niner fan who's been going to games since he was 8 or 9, i'm mad that they're moving out of the city proper.

That being said, traffic getting to and from the games will be VASTLY improved. Since they started shortening the time the stadium is open (gates open 4 hours before kickoff) getting in has been a nightmare. Sit in a line of cars to get off the freeway for about an hour AFTER crossing a tunnel and bridge (live in the east bay) and after the games, wait in a line of cars for about 2 hours to get back to the Bay Bridge. In santa clara? 6 lane highway in and out. I'm going to miss the Stick for sure, but this will be an improvement.

the cost of seats at the new stadium though? Yikes


No more freezing my ass off at games, now.
 
2012-04-20 01:59:50 PM  
media.cmgdigital.com

On a side note, this photo looks like it was taken in the 70's
 
2012-04-20 02:02:48 PM  
It'll be easier to get to an Oakland Raiders game than a SF 49ers game from inside SF
 
2012-04-20 02:07:26 PM  
The funny thing is that they gave the concessions contract for this stadium to Legend Hospitality.. a company co-owned by Yankees and Jerry Jones.
 
2012-04-20 02:10:42 PM  
I'm meeting with a sales representative in Santa Clara tonight about transferring my season tickets over to the new park, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

They won't even tell me the cost, which has me worried, though.
 
2012-04-20 02:11:01 PM  
What's amazing is San Fran will have only 1 actual pro team within the city itself.

you forgot the Warriors will be moving there soon,
and oh yeah, eff the effing 9ers and their high priced stadia
 
2012-04-20 02:11:15 PM  
Shouldn't they have used a pickaxe or some other related mining tool for the photo opp?

DETAILS PEOPLE!

Also, since this is San Francisco, where are the shirtless rollerblading gay dudes?
 
2012-04-20 02:11:25 PM  
The move some 40 miles south of Candlestick Park sets the stage for the NFL's debut in the technology-rich region.

Christ, 40 miles?!? What's the farthest a franchise in any sport has moved without officially relocating?
 
2012-04-20 02:17:42 PM  
Santa Clara has money & isn't full of ecowingnuts who would block a new stadium in SF.

Also, the 49ers are a home team for everyone in the South Bay, plus the Loland Lolders are also a home team... so we're subject to all the blackouts & blocked broadcasts due to those 2 teams, and yet we can't have one of those teams closer to the South Bay?

Sorry if I don't feel that sorry for SF fans. A lot of the poeple who can afford your ticket price increases live down this way anyway, and Candlestick is a pit.

Also, as stated, the weather down in Santa Clara is awesome compared to SF, unless you like fog & freezing your ass off.
 
2012-04-20 02:18:50 PM  

Wellon Dowd: The move some 40 miles south of Candlestick Park sets the stage for the NFL's debut in the technology-rich region.

Christ, 40 miles?!? What's the farthest a franchise in any sport has moved without officially relocating?


Well, Foxboro is about 30 miles from Boston..
 
2012-04-20 02:19:44 PM  

The Bestest: Wellon Dowd: The move some 40 miles south of Candlestick Park sets the stage for the NFL's debut in the technology-rich region.

Christ, 40 miles?!? What's the farthest a franchise in any sport has moved without officially relocating?

Well, Foxboro is about 30 miles from Boston..


The Cavs used to play in Richfield, which is about 20 miles outside of Cleveland.
 
2012-04-20 02:22:11 PM  
Now maybe they'll have a facility where the field actually drains if there's rainfall and doesn't flood at high tide. This is loooong overdue. The field at Candlestick is a piece of shiat.
 
2012-04-20 02:24:39 PM  
Too bad the stadium looks ugly as hell...

i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com
 
2012-04-20 02:24:49 PM  
The real Winnipeg Jets play in Phoenix, er, Glendale, Arizona which is about 1,941 miles away.
 
2012-04-20 02:25:35 PM  

ShawnDoc: tallguywithglasseson: Ugh, that seems kind of sucky. Seems like they wanted to move to a city with more millionaires, but still wanted to keep the TV/memorabilia/apparel market of SF proper. Hence, "we will always be the San Francisco 49ers, but we're moving out of San Francisco".

The NY Giants home field is in New Jersey. The Dallas Cowboys are actually from Arlington. I'm sure there's plenty of other teams who are named after a nearby large city/market, rather than the actual location of their home field. And besides, Santa Clara is part of the "San Francisco Bay Area"


Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
Unincorporated Area of Prince George's County, Maryland Redskins
(formerly located in) Landover Capitals and Bullets/Wizards
(formerly located in) Inglewood Lakers

etc
 
2012-04-20 02:25:53 PM  

carnifex2005: Too bad the stadium looks ugly as hell...

[i.imgur.com image 600x448]

[i.imgur.com image 618x349]


I dunno.. I'm kinda diggin' the open pavilions.
 
2012-04-20 02:28:16 PM  

The Bestest: I dunno.. I'm kinda diggin' the open pavilions.


That looks to be one hell of a handicap ramp in the corner.
 
2012-04-20 02:28:40 PM  

downstairs: How much football do you watch?! West


I already responded to this. Brainfart on my part.

//and usually about 3 games each week
 
2012-04-20 02:29:27 PM  

carnifex2005: Too bad the stadium looks ugly as hell...

[i.imgur.com image 600x448]


Wow - that is the generic-ist looking stadium imaginable.
 
2012-04-20 02:30:36 PM  

jackiepaper: Well, thats not entirely true. Those who grew up with Candlestick and grew up going to Niners games there, are pretty devastated and angered by this.


Yeah but it didn't sound like staying at the 'Stick was really a viable option.
 
2012-04-20 02:31:36 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Wow - that is the generic-ist looking stadium imaginable.


How do you figure? I see multiple features that few-to-no other stadiums have.
 
2012-04-20 02:33:31 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: I already responded to this. Brainfart on my part.

//and usually about 3 games each week


All good. Wasn't trying to bash you.

Everything you said about traffic still probably stands, and a San Fran fan probably DOES have to get up damn early to tailgate.
 
2012-04-20 02:34:11 PM  

The Bestest: Wellon Dowd: The move some 40 miles south of Candlestick Park sets the stage for the NFL's debut in the technology-rich region.

Christ, 40 miles?!? What's the farthest a franchise in any sport has moved without officially relocating?

Well, Foxboro is about 30 miles from Boston..


So it's Boston Patriots?
 
2012-04-20 02:36:42 PM  
SF to Oakland Coliseum:
17.9 mi


SF to Santa Clara:
45.0 mi
 
2012-04-20 02:37:13 PM  

jackiepaper: Well, thats not entirely true. Those who grew up with Candlestick and grew up going to Niners games there, are pretty devastated and angered by this.


I grew up in the Bay Area going to Niners games, and I live in SF now and have season tix at Candlestick. Not only am I not devastated and angered, I'm thrilled. It's about damn time we got a new stadium. Candlestick is simply not viable anymore, and there's nowhere else in SF to put the stadium, as the city officially rejected my plan to completely bulldoze the mission and the tenderloin (and all of the people who live there), and build both a new stadium as well as a private helicopter pad for me and my close friends. And also give me a free helicopter.
 
2012-04-20 02:38:42 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: jackiepaper: Well, thats not entirely true. Those who grew up with Candlestick and grew up going to Niners games there, are pretty devastated and angered by this.

I grew up in the Bay Area going to Niners games, and I live in SF now and have season tix at Candlestick. Not only am I not devastated and angered, I'm thrilled. It's about damn time we got a new stadium. Candlestick is simply not viable anymore, and there's nowhere else in SF to put the stadium, as the city officially rejected my plan to completely bulldoze the mission and the tenderloin (and all of the people who live there), and build both a new stadium as well as a private helicopter pad for me and my close friends. And also give me a free helicopter.


Your plan would probably be cheaper than what they decided on.
 
2012-04-20 02:53:42 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: jackiepaper: Well, thats not entirely true. Those who grew up with Candlestick and grew up going to Niners games there, are pretty devastated and angered by this.

I grew up in the Bay Area going to Niners games, and I live in SF now and have season tix at Candlestick. Not only am I not devastated and angered, I'm thrilled. It's about damn time we got a new stadium. Candlestick is simply not viable anymore, and there's nowhere else in SF to put the stadium, as the city officially rejected my plan to completely bulldoze the mission and the tenderloin (and all of the people who live there), and build both a new stadium as well as a private helicopter pad for me and my close friends. And also give me a free helicopter.


I wish they could have just rebuilt Kezar into a proper stadium, and bulldozed most of the Upper Haight, except Amoeba, for parking.
 
2012-04-20 02:59:25 PM  
Fark the Yorks. Fark them with the dagger dildo from se7en right up their arses. These farking morons sabotaged all the attempts to get a new stadium built for them in San Francisco after Eddie D sold off his half. We were in the Final Four for the 2012 Olympics when this waste of carbon of a family blew the chances out of the water by announcing the move to Santa Clara. NEWSOM WENT TO BAT TO GET AN ENTIRELY UNNECESSARY OLYMPICS FOR YOU GREEDY FARKS JUST TO GET YOU A STADIUM!!!!

And now they have insane PSL's and prices, making it harder, if not impossible, for the average fans to go to the games. And they're expecting the City of Santa Clara to provide security? That's a farking joke and a half. After Marriot sold off Great America to the City of Santa Clara, GA was the murder/death capital of the county as gangs settled their scores in the parking lot and sometimes even in the park itself. Hunter's Point may be an economically depressed Hellhole, but at least they don't have gang shootouts every other week at Candlestick. Also, you had a strong contingent of SFPD to KEEP SHIAT LIKE THAT FROM HAPPENING REGULARLY!!! Santa Clara's police force is laughably small compared to the resources that SF could afford to divert for games.

So yeah, fark the Yorks. Maybe after some of their big money fans get jacked or shot by local bangers because the security's a joke, they're realize just how farking stupid they are. But I'm not holding my breath on it.
 
2012-04-20 02:59:54 PM  

downstairs: All good. Wasn't trying to bash you.


Honestly it was always something I had wondered about, but apparently, not enough to find out the easy (and somewhat obvious) answer. (#^.^#)

This is something that happens to me from time to time.
 
2012-04-20 03:00:19 PM  
So they can be just like the Washington Redskins (of Landover, Maryland) and play games nowhere within sight or ZIP of their namesake location.

The 'Stick was much more accessible by public transportation (light rail stops less than a mile away) - people who drove were doing it wrong. This new place will force more people to drive, which will make traffic even worse.
 
2012-04-20 03:00:38 PM  
One thing about living in Santa Carla Clara I never could stomach, all the damn vampires.


/oblig
//at least to me
 
2012-04-20 03:02:31 PM  
Vernon Davis: "This is pretty special," tight end Vernon Davis said. "There's never been a better time to be a 49er."

The 49er's of the 80's and early-mid 90s would like a word. Just because you won a playoff game because the opponent shot themselves in the foot over and over doesn't mean you've "arrived".
 
2012-04-20 03:03:23 PM  

cefm: So they can be just like the Washington Redskins (of Landover, Maryland) and play games nowhere within sight or ZIP of their namesake location.


Huh? Landover is less than 10 miles from Washington DC.
 
2012-04-20 03:08:17 PM  

cefm: So they can be just like the Washington Redskins (of Landover, Maryland) and play games nowhere within sight or ZIP of their namesake location.


That a bit of an exaggeration. From FedEx Field to RFK is about 7.5 miles. It is 3.6 miles from FedEx to the DC line.
 
2012-04-20 03:13:44 PM  

mynamebackwards: Vernon Davis: "This is pretty special," tight end Vernon Davis said. "There's never been a better time to be a 49er."

The 49er's of the 80's and early-mid 90s would like a word. Just because you won a playoff game because the opponent shot themselves in the foot over and over doesn't mean you've "arrived".


football is a game where whoever makes the fewest mistakes wins
 
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