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(Electronista)   HTC to announce that since October, its Android phones have been shipping with ad-blockers turned on by default, making ad-impression measurements of market share meaningless. Yeah, that's the ticket   (electronista.com) divider line 28
    More: Obvious, HTC, Android, iPhone 4S, Huawei, ad networks, market share, economies of scale, defaults  
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2012-04-20 08:43:47 AM  
I suddenly like HTC a lot more.
 
2012-04-20 11:00:08 AM  
This is at the top of the screen - ASDFASDF ??? Ad Fail.
i.imgur.com
 
2012-04-20 11:02:48 AM  
Did you drop this, Subby?

img1.fark.net
 
2012-04-20 11:06:17 AM  
I finally rooted my galaxy s2 last night. About the 4th thing I did was install adfree, which is nice.
 
hej
2012-04-20 11:27:24 AM  

Branch Dravidian: Did you drop this, Subby?

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How about instead of screwing the app developers on the ad revenue, you splurge on the $5 (or less, usually) they charge for the same app without the ads?
 
2012-04-20 11:51:26 AM  
htc evo shift is a piece of crap.
 
2012-04-20 12:53:43 PM  

Dinobot: htc evo shift is a piece of crap.


Bought and still have the evo shift when it first came out. Slider became loose within a couple weeks. Super glued it shut well over a year ago and have had no problems with it. I got it because it didn't have a huge screen. Been more or less satisfied.
 
2012-04-20 01:24:43 PM  

frozenhotchocolate: Dinobot: htc evo shift is a piece of crap.

Bought and still have the evo shift when it first came out. Slider became loose within a couple weeks. Super glued it shut well over a year ago and have had no problems with it. I got it because it didn't have a huge screen. Been more or less satisfied.


Mine finally broke 1 month before 2 years. Could have upgraded to a different phone that Sprint was pushing. Got the same one instead. I love this phone.
 
2012-04-20 01:26:07 PM  

Dinobot: htc evo shift is a piece of crap.


I've always had trouble with my HTC EVO. Always crashing, not enough internal memory for all the apps that you can't move to the SD card. I'll be getting a Samsung Galaxy S ll, Epic 4G Touch in a couple weeks.

/cool phone story bro
//but long phone name
 
2012-04-20 01:30:40 PM  

Walker: I'll be getting a Samsung Galaxy S ll, Epic 4G Touch in a couple weeks.


Galaxy S3 is out on May 3rd.
 
2012-04-20 01:43:51 PM  

Walker: Dinobot: htc evo shift is a piece of crap.

I've always had trouble with my HTC EVO. Always crashing, not enough internal memory for all the apps that you can't move to the SD card. I'll be getting a Samsung Galaxy S ll, Epic 4G Touch in a couple weeks.

/cool phone story bro
//but long phone name


I still don't know what I'm gonna get once I'm able to upgrade phones, but I sure as hell don't want another HTC.

My Evo Shift's battery barely last 8 hrs fully charged, has problems reading/writing the SD card at times and takes forever to pick up GPS on the offchance I enable it.

/makes for a decent jogtracker and mp3/podcast player on the times GPS/the SD card works.
 
2012-04-20 01:44:18 PM  

Walker: Dinobot: htc evo shift is a piece of crap.

I've always had trouble with my HTC EVO. Always crashing, not enough internal memory for all the apps that you can't move to the SD card. I'll be getting a Samsung Galaxy S ll, Epic 4G Touch in a couple weeks.

/cool phone story bro
//but long phone name


Forget the galaxy s 2 and evo phones. Go with the Galaxy Nexus and get ICS.
 
2012-04-20 01:53:34 PM  
I have a myTouch 4G, which apparently came out right before their phones started going down hill; pretty solid phone. I've been considering an HTC One S, but waiting to let other people test it for a bit first.
 
2012-04-20 02:08:40 PM  

Walker: I suddenly like HTC a lot more.


THIS

JohnBigBootay: I finally rooted my galaxy s2 last night. About the 4th thing I did was install adfree, which is nice.


and THIS

hej: Branch Dravidian: Did you drop this, Subby?

[img1.fark.net image 54x11]

How about instead of screwing the app developers on the ad revenue, you splurge on the $5 (or less, usually) they charge for the same app without the ads?


And I do. The rule is that if an app is on the phone for more than 2 weeks, I pay for the donate/pro version. The ads that I want blocked are the ones that only make their revenue from ads. I am looking at you Words with Friends....

Give me a pay version and if your app rocks, I will buy it
 
2012-04-20 03:27:44 PM  

Madduck: Walker: I'll be getting a Samsung Galaxy S ll, Epic 4G Touch in a couple weeks.

Galaxy S3 is out on May 3rd.


Yeah, in the UK. Probably won't land on American shores until the Fall.
 
2012-04-20 03:38:45 PM  

Enuratique: Madduck: Walker: I'll be getting a Samsung Galaxy S ll, Epic 4G Touch in a couple weeks.

Galaxy S3 is out on May 3rd.

Yeah, in the UK. Probably won't land on American shores until the Fall.


It is going to be announced on the 3rd, hit overseas in June, US stores in August....just a guess but it sorta in line with other releases
 
2012-04-20 04:01:06 PM  

bsharitt: I have a myTouch 4G, which apparently came out right before their phones started going down hill; pretty solid phone. I've been considering an HTC One S, but waiting to let other people test it for a bit first.


I'm in about the same boat. I have an Incredible which I love, but the new reviews on their phones are not so good.
 
2012-04-20 04:29:43 PM  
Piizzadude:The ads that I want blocked are the ones that only make their revenue from ads. I am looking at you Words with Friends....

Give me a pay version and if your app rocks, I will buy it


This.

Also the drop in ad traffic is almost certainly driven heavily by HTC's decision to provide an official method to unlock the bootloaders so that people CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR OWN PROPERTY, which means HTC phones probably have the highest proportion of custom ROMs (which usually include ad-blocking by default) loaded of any of the manufacturers.
 
2012-04-20 05:18:07 PM  
Well, until they find a way not to charge annoying ads (especially auto-load video ads) against my data plan, I applaud this move.
 
2012-04-20 07:48:06 PM  

Dinobot: Walker: Dinobot: htc evo shift is a piece of crap.

I've always had trouble with my HTC EVO. Always crashing, not enough internal memory for all the apps that you can't move to the SD card. I'll be getting a Samsung Galaxy S ll, Epic 4G Touch in a couple weeks.

/cool phone story bro
//but long phone name

I still don't know what I'm gonna get once I'm able to upgrade phones, but I sure as hell don't want another HTC.

My Evo Shift's battery barely last 8 hrs fully charged, has problems reading/writing the SD card at times and takes forever to pick up GPS on the offchance I enable it.

/makes for a decent jogtracker and mp3/podcast player on the times GPS/the SD card works.


I just upgraded to a HTC one x. Battery life is great, even though it has a huge screen. Two days comfortably with a fair amount of use. Don't make many calls but do a fair bit of surfing, emailing and texting, on wifi and 3g.

Love the phone, but they have screwed up a few tiny features. You can have six pages open at a time compared to 4 on the Desire (yay!) but sometimes when you go back to a previous page it reloads it. So if I click to open a link on a Fark thread in a new tab then go back to the thread it has reloaded it rather than still being where I was. Hitting Tab and closing the page rather than just hitting Back seems to fix that but it is still annoying.
And Calendar no longer has a day view that just shows events. It is an hour by hour display so anything after 12 midday you have to scroll to see. They have a Agenda list that just lists all events but stupidly doesn't highlight today on the list. And I miss the physical Menu button and always knowing exactly where it was at all time.
And with the huge screen the icons look small. I'd love them to add another row and column of icons or widgets, they'd still be about the same size and spacing as my old Desire.

But overall it is a huge screen, wafer thin, feels and looks great. Storage is fixed at 32GB, but I managed okay on my old phones 4GB micro sd car so I think I'll be okay.

I looked at the RAZR, I loved my old RAZR flip, I had a 3i and a RAZR 8, but chose the One X because of it's bigger screen and far higher resolution screen. So far, about a week, I'm very happy.
 
2012-04-20 07:50:26 PM  
Also, if you are in the UK then get your phone from Carphone Warehouse. That way it is unlocked and will take any networks SIM and doesn't have all the network branding and crap that they put on there.
 
2012-04-20 11:04:32 PM  

BStorm: Piizzadude:The ads that I want blocked are the ones that only make their revenue from ads. I am looking at you Words with Friends....

Give me a pay version and if your app rocks, I will buy it

This.

Also the drop in ad traffic is almost certainly driven heavily by HTC's decision to provide an official method to unlock the bootloaders so that people CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR OWN PROPERTY, which means HTC phones probably have the highest proportion of custom ROMs (which usually include ad-blocking by default) loaded of any of the manufacturers.


I love custom ROMs and am always checking out other MFG/Phones to see what is out there. I would say it is neck and neck between HTC and Samsung (overall). Samsung is easy as hell to root and switch ROMs and it is 99% impossible to brick. Even if you do, there is a semi-simple mod to bring it back to life...

Oh and if ad exposure or whatever TFA is about is a true indicator, then MOTO should be #1 by a mile
 
2012-04-21 02:28:33 AM  

BStorm: Also the drop in ad traffic is almost certainly driven heavily by HTC's decision to provide an official method to unlock the bootloaders so that people CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR OWN PROPERTY, which means HTC phones probably have the highest proportion of custom ROMs (which usually include ad-blocking by default) loaded of any of the manufacturers.


An interesting hypothesis. And it's possible that people are buying HTC phones, unlocking them and installing custom ROMS.

Of course, that would be a far more complicated explanation than people simply not buying them.

Occam to the white courtesy phone, please.
 
2012-04-21 12:21:37 PM  

dbirchall:
An interesting hypothesis. And it's possible that people are buying HTC phones, unlocking them and installing custom ROMS.

Of course, that would be a far more complicated explanation than people simply not buying them.

Occam to the white courtesy phone, please.


I am gonna go with Occam on this one. The geeks like me and the younger generations do it because it can be done, the normal person isnt normally going to put the time into it to research what goes into it. I know Samsung Phones are pretty easy to do, and the one HTC that I rooted was only slightly more complicated, but I had a head start on the terminology. Rooting, ROM, kernel, RIL...at somepoint the average user is going to ask if it is worth it to learn all this ...
 
2012-04-22 12:29:15 AM  
Hero tag.

I'm not going to let an application destroy my pitiful Canadian data plan.
 
2012-04-22 01:39:52 AM  
Making us AT&T 3G users download ads on a mobile site is just plain mean-spirited.
 
2012-04-22 11:46:13 AM  
I rooted my HTC Inspire and installed a de-bloated Rom and it is a dream phone. I don't even use my netbook anymore. I highly recommend this phone.
 
2012-04-22 09:31:58 PM  
I'm keeping my rooted incredible until it dies. Best phone I've ever had.
 
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