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(AZCentral)   Not news: small plane goes down over the gulf. Scary news: take a look at his flightpath   (azcentral.com) divider line 191
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2012-04-19 05:55:29 PM

Old_Chief_Scott: This guy wasn't flying that plane. He was out from hypoxia or dead.


Yes. I am guessing heart attack or possibly some fatal cerebral episode. Bummer.
 
2012-04-19 05:57:29 PM
My first thought:

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/window seat, please
 
2012-04-19 05:57:30 PM

tgambitg: Except, if the cockpit was frosted, this one wasn't pressurized anymore. Definitely was at one time, but not anymore.


Well, the cockpit being "frosted" in and of itself is not a sign of depressurization. It means that no one on board is capable of engaging the heating or de-icing systems.
 
2012-04-19 05:58:06 PM

nekom: Wenchmaster: Air Force pilots said the plane was at 28K and the windows were fogged or frosted over. Sounds like a sudden loss of cabin pressure at altitude and unconsciousness/death from hypoxia.

I asked this in a redlit thread about this, does this model not have an O2 mask? Is there a way that decompression can happen and a pilot would just `not notice' it until he passed out and it was too late? If a commercial airliner experiences decompression (unless it's violent), correct me if I'm wrong but the masks come down, the pilot descends and everything is fine if the bird is in otherwise good shape, right? Do small general aviation aircraft not have these things?


The 421 has an optional Oxygen backup system but I don't think they come down like they do in an airliner. Also at that altitude he would have seconds to put the mask on and start the O2 flow before passing out.
 
2012-04-19 05:58:45 PM
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Rich people problems.
 
2012-04-19 06:00:39 PM

mc_madness: Doctors make THE shiatTIEST pilots...


We lost an orthodontist friend and his whole staff who had 2 practices and would put his plane on auto and take a nap to be refreshed when he arrived at the other city.

Auger in.
 
2012-04-19 06:01:01 PM

Walker: That's the first thing I thought of. Low-tech toy for those of us born before electronics ruled kid's lives.


Heh, well, I figured that an Etch-A-Sketch reference wouldn't work here for a number of reasons!


frenchcheesemuseum: [i582.photobucket.com image 411x264]


HAHAHAHAHA
 
2012-04-19 06:01:24 PM

Hassan Ben Sobr: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 152x200]

Rich people problems.


There's this interesting effect where your life expectancy increases as wealth increases up to a certain point where it begins to fall because of stuff like flying in small airplanes, driving super cars, and frequent ski trips.
 
2012-04-19 06:02:01 PM
cdn.mos.totalfilm.com

Looks like he couldn't turn right.
 
2012-04-19 06:02:20 PM
Right down the Mississippi River to the Gulf of Mexico.

Ironic.
 
2012-04-19 06:02:45 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: First thing that came to mind:
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Don't fly after


if that is accurate, it's very interesting that the most consistent pattern was done under lsd.

dont' know what it means, but it's interesting.
 
2012-04-19 06:03:06 PM

Old_Chief_Scott: tgambitg: Except, if the cockpit was frosted, this one wasn't pressurized anymore. Definitely was at one time, but not anymore.

Well, the cockpit being "frosted" in and of itself is not a sign of depressurization. It means that no one on board is capable of engaging the heating or de-icing systems.


It's highly likely, though - rapid depressurization causes the water vapor in the aircraft to condense out on surfaces, as the relative humidity increases.
 
2012-04-19 06:03:57 PM
He died doing what he loved
 
IP
2012-04-19 06:06:45 PM

frenchcheesemuseum: [i582.photobucket.com image 411x264]


Oh geez I laughed WAY to hard at that you magnificent bastard.
 
2012-04-19 06:10:56 PM

unremarkable asterisk: He died doing what he loved


We know.....Big Ben
 
2012-04-19 06:11:38 PM

GT_bike: mc_madness: Doctors make THE shiatTIEST pilots...

We lost an orthodontist friend and his whole staff who had 2 practices and would put his plane on auto and take a nap to be refreshed when he arrived at the other city.

Auger in.


Seriously? How could someone be that stupid?
 
2012-04-19 06:12:43 PM
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2012-04-19 06:12:55 PM
Authorities have not identified the pilot. But Bill Huete, a mechanic who has worked in the past on the downed aircraft at Slidell Airport, identified him as Dr. Peter Hertzak, an OB-GYN who worked in the Slidell community just northeast of New Orleans.

I once heard an FAA crash investigator say that 90% of his job was scrapping up the remains of overconfident doctors.
 
2012-04-19 06:13:32 PM
At the altitude he was at combined with the jets not seeing/contacting anyone in the cockpit you can bet it was a loss of cabin pressure followed by loss of consciousness. My first guess is pilot error, next would be mechanical failure.
 
2012-04-19 06:13:44 PM

MJMaloney187: That's messed up. There were children on the plane?!?


Yeah, sadly no survivors.

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i582.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-19 06:14:19 PM

IP: frenchcheesemuseum: [i582.photobucket.com image 411x264]

Oh geez I laughed WAY to hard at that you magnificent bastard.


I stole it from an asterisk.
 
2012-04-19 06:15:09 PM

proton: First thing that came to mind:


With a name like proton, this doesn't surprise me.
 
2012-04-19 06:15:24 PM

Old_Chief_Scott: This guy wasn't flying that plane. He was out from hypoxia or dead.


probably long dead before hitting the water, I'd wager. The plane was on autopilot until it ran out of gas and crashed.
 
2012-04-19 06:16:29 PM

Kanemano: from this reenactment

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When the heart attack started his right hand jerked upwards, putting the plane in a left turn


Looks familiar..
 
2012-04-19 06:16:36 PM
I see that we have the usual bunch of armchair pilots in here today.

It's clear that he was caught in a tornado.
 
2012-04-19 06:17:22 PM

texdent: Didn't the same thing happen to JFK Jr and some golf guy?


In the instance of JFK jr it was a case of over confidence and under experienced. Payne Stewart's crash, yes, loss of pressure/oxygen led to a fatal crash after an uncontrolled descent.
 
2012-04-19 06:19:06 PM
I'm guessing he died or lost consciousness and collapsed on one side of the yoke. Doctors and planes are never a good mix and I've known more doctors who have been killed in planes than cars. You screw up in the hospital and the worst thing that can happen is the patient dies. It's the doctor/god complex. All these people around me die like flies and nothing ever happens to me, I must be special and I'm going to go fly a plane with all my specialness. If you screw up in an airplane it's a whole different story and doctors don't seem to understand that.
 
2012-04-19 06:20:29 PM
Looks like he got half ways and had some kind of trouble and tried to turn back then the shiat hit the fan. And it looks like he was trying to stick to his original flight path and make it to his destination. If he was trying to fly that thing until it hit the water, I salute the fark out of the guy.
 
2012-04-19 06:21:56 PM

WayneKerr: It's clear that he was caught in a tornado.


It's clear that we have an amateur meaty urologist with us today.
It was obviously a cyclone.
 
2012-04-19 06:23:15 PM

Loucifer: I glad he was turning left. If it had been the other way, we'd be fark deep in "all right" jokes by now.


So then, why no NASCAR jokes?
 
2012-04-19 06:23:32 PM

frenchcheesemuseum: i582.photobucket.com


You are a horrible person and I love you for it.

My theory: He was with a prostitute and they were getting freaky then the plane spun in... it spun in. Over the Sea of Japan.
 
2012-04-19 06:23:57 PM
There was an article on BB recently about how if you put a blindfold on a person and tell them to walk a straight line, they will walk in circles.
His windshield was iced up.
 
2012-04-19 06:26:47 PM
Fogged up windows you say?

Yeah, people were having sex
 
2012-04-19 06:29:18 PM
Apply ye olde opposite rudder and pull back to get out of that quandary
 
2012-04-19 06:31:52 PM
FTFA: "No one answered the door at an address listed for Hertzak and calls to the home rang unanswered."

What a bunch of farkin' ghouls.

Taunts to his children of "Your father is dead, dead dead. A plane fell upon his head, head, head" were also unanswered.
 
2012-04-19 06:34:03 PM

FastJeff: Looks like he got half ways and had some kind of trouble and tried to turn back then the shiat hit the fan. And it looks like he was trying to stick to his original flight path and make it to his destination. If he was trying to fly that thing until it hit the water, I salute the fark out of the guy.


Been way too long since I made a flight plan, and never over water (more than 22 miles to Catalina), but that's 475 miles across the water, or roughly 235 each direction if he turns back or goes straight, but it's only 80-90 miles to divert to Panama City from where the circling started.

For that matter, if he had headed from his initial airport to Port St. Joe and then to Sarasota, he would have been much much closer to land the entire time and only added about 20 miles to his flight. (Rough google maps measurements.)

None of that would've helped in a catastrophic depressurization, but it just seems a slightly riskier than needed flight plan, even with two engines.
 
2012-04-19 06:34:27 PM

tgambitg: The flight path looks to me that he was probably passed out (as others have said in this thread) and looks like one foot got a little too heavy, adjusting the tail on the plane..

The jets' pilots reported that the Cessna's windshield was iced over and that the plane was fluctuating between 25,000 and 35,000 feet.


Allllll gone
 
2012-04-19 06:34:41 PM
I thought most doctors spun into the Sea of Japan?
 
2012-04-19 06:35:07 PM
So the fighter pilots watched him spiral and crash?
 
2012-04-19 06:35:22 PM

AnyName: FTFA: "No one answered the door at an address listed for Hertzak and calls to the home rang unanswered."

What a bunch of farkin' ghouls.

Taunts to his children of "Your father is dead, dead dead. A plane fell upon his head, head, head" were also unanswered.


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2012-04-19 06:39:38 PM

redsquid: [cdn.mos.totalfilm.com image 470x470]

Looks like he couldn't turn right.


So he was a Nascar driver?
 
2012-04-19 06:40:24 PM
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2012-04-19 06:40:40 PM
There was a bee in the cockpit.
 
2012-04-19 06:41:38 PM
I call Slinky.

;)
 
2012-04-19 06:41:41 PM

vudutek: Loucifer: I glad he was turning left. If it had been the other way, we'd be fark deep in "all right" jokes by now.

So then, why no NASCAR jokes?


Lowhanging fruit- nascar's its own joke.
 
2012-04-19 06:42:37 PM

Thudfark: redsquid: [cdn.mos.totalfilm.com image 470x470]

Looks like he couldn't turn right.

So he was a Nascar driver?


No, sadly... he was an "ambiturner".
 
2012-04-19 06:42:38 PM

NewportBarGuy: My theory: He was with a prostitute and they were getting freaky then the plane spun in... it spun in. Over the Sea of Japan.


I bet he just didn't want to pay the $47.
 
2012-04-19 06:46:29 PM

santadog: Thudfark: redsquid: [cdn.mos.totalfilm.com image 470x470]

Looks like he couldn't turn right.

So he was a Nascar driver?

No, sadly... he was an "ambiturner".


I like Lana Turner.
 
2012-04-19 06:54:18 PM

sxacho: So the fighter pilots watched him spiral and crash?


What would you expect them to do? I don't think F-15's come equipped with tow hitches.
 
2012-04-19 06:55:11 PM
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