SphericalTime: So the choice is between:

Remember when God used to get really angry, and wipe out everything on the face of the earth except a single boat? Well He promises He won't do that anymore; see He got us a pretty rainbow to remind Himself so He won't accidentally forget and kill us all. It's all because He loves us, even though we don't deserve it, because He said it was our fault that He had to kill everyone.

And:

You know what? Even though we're all different we shouldn't have to lie to each other about ourselves to get along. How about we're honest with each other and we try to find the good in each other and get along. This rainbow will remind us that even though we're incredibly diverse and impossible to completely categorize, we have a shared humanity that we can respect in each other.


Huh. I know which one looks like the better message to me.

But but but buttsecks!

theorellior: Tatsuma: when you choose a symbol that represents your oppression, hunt, torture and death at the hand of the church for hundreds of years as your own symbol, you might want to hire a new PR firm.

Kinda like if a offshoot sect of Judaism decided to use a Roman torture device for their worldwide symbol. Really bad focus grouping on that one.

Owned.

I don't usually read WND articles, but I read this one and BOY was it stupid. What exactly is he proposing?

Of the two groups (the religious and the homoseual) one has clearly done more damage than the other. In fact, one has done no damage at all that I can think of.

Tatsuma: what_now: It originated in the 1970s as a way to symbolize that the LGBT community was open to people of all races.

well, they chose poorly


Finally I know who you are!

gilgigamesh: exick: it's a reminder that their god is an amoral, vindictive, genocidal douchebag

Man creates God in his own image.

Nice.

Remember when God used to get really angry, and wipe out everything on the face of the earth except a single boat?

God and his christian assistants did a pretty good number on The Jews as well.

Gotta love black homophobes. You'd think there would be a little bit of understanding and sympathy for another group that has suffered bigotry.

Tatsuma: I have to say, I have always been confused by the adoption of the rainbow flag as a symbol of gay rights and so on.


The biblical origin of the rainbow is that it signified a new covenant between mankind and G-d, and one of the clauses of that covenant was not to have homosexual relationship.

I mean, seriously. Why not a flag of Judy Garland's face or something?

Why should anyone acknowledge stupid religious interpretations of anything? Rainbows are an actual real thing, and anyone can use them for anything. Now fark off and do some pointless ritual shiat you are required to do if you dont want to be hit on the head with a yahwehstick or something else made up.

Tommy Moo: Gotta love black homophobes. You'd think there would be a little bit of understanding and sympathy for another group that has suffered bigotry.

Hypocrisy comes in all races and creeds.

hubiestubert: Seriously folks, if THIS is your biggest fear:


Thank you for reminding me why I keep meaning to favorite you. I have finally done so. You are full of wisdom and awesome.

vernonFL: Judy Garland supported traditional marriage.

Marriage is defined as being between one drunken, pill-popper and a series of gay men?

If so, then Liza is doing an excellent job upholding tradition as well.

Tatsuma: I have to say, I have always been confused by the adoption of the rainbow flag as a symbol of gay rights and so on.


The biblical origin of the rainbow is that it signified a new covenant between mankind and G-d, and one of the clauses of that covenant was not to have homosexual relationship.

I mean, seriously. Why not a flag of Judy Garland's face or something?

Because it's a natural phenomenon that has nothing to do with Jeebuz, or God or the Easter Bunny, and anyone is free to be inspired by it as they see fit.

Tatsuma: I have to say, I have always been confused by the adoption of the rainbow flag as a symbol of gay rights and so on.


The biblical origin of the rainbow is that it signified a new covenant between mankind and G-d, and one of the clauses of that covenant was not to have homosexual relationship.

I mean, seriously. Why not a flag of Judy Garland's face or something?

Fark off. I'll make sure to make every Jew joke next time you get offended by something, and when you get all defensive, I'll point ya back here ya coked up freak.

JerseyTim: When choosing a symbol of unity in the face of oppression, make sure it doesn't offend the oppressors.

Easier said than done - it's not the symbol that offends the oppressors, it's the unity. Even without a symbol, they'd be offended.

Old enough to know better: Hey fundie boy. Odin just called. He wants his bridge back.

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That was truly an epic Ring Cycle. (Love the Met)
Bryn Terfel or James Morris? Can't choose. But the Erda from the 90's was way better.

or maybe we could just look at the rainbow as a rainbow

dahmers love zombie: Tatsuma: I have to say, I have always been confused by the adoption of the rainbow flag as a symbol of gay rights and so on.


The biblical origin of the rainbow is that it signified a new covenant between mankind and G-d, and one of the clauses of that covenant was not to have homosexual relationship.

I mean, seriously. Why not a flag of Judy Garland's face or something?

So it's a "dibs" thing? Really?

Well, if it's "dibs" then we can expect the Christians to give up Easter, Christmas, and Jesus himself for that matter.

Tatsuma: what_now: It originated in the 1970s as a way to symbolize that the LGBT community was open to people of all races.

well, they chose poorly

UndeadPoetsSociety: I feel that I should point out at this time that the rainbow used by the LGBT movement has either six or eight colors, while the rainbow that appears in the sky has seven. So this whole thing is even stupider than it looks at first glance.

Ummm ... no



/this image is hot like the sun

What? 283 comments and nobody has yet pointed out that the whole reason we call it a "rainbow" to this very day is because of how the word was translated into English from the Hebrew?

The Hebrew word is "qesheth," and it has only one meaning: a bow. As in, "and arrow"! The physical weapon with which one shoots arrows!

"Qesheth" appears 77 times in the Old Testament, and every with the arguable exception of Genesis Chapter 9 and another appearance harking back to that in Ezekiel, it means the physical weapon that shoots arrows, or something directly related thereto (e.g. in compound words meaning things like "bowshot" or "bowman" [though Hebrew does have another word for "archer"]). Some times it does have a symbolic meaning of a bow representing military might, but never just symbolic of the general shape of a bow.

Genesis 9 thus clearly says that God placed His ginormous glowing gay-colored bow (as in, "and arrow!") in the cloud (nowhere else, like, oh, say, the spray of a waterfall or garden hose or lawn sprinkler or some such, or the underside of a compact disc or other diffraction gratings, or the refractions of a crystal or prism, or diffraction of an oil slick or soap bubble, etc. etc. etc.) as a hugemongous Post-It™ Note to remind His apparently not-so-perfect memory (perfect memories don't need reminders, by definition! And He very clearly says that He will look upon the bow and then He will remember His covenant) never to flood the Earth again.

Don't believe those evil scientists who tell you about the rainbow being some optical effect of white sunlight or other light passing through water droplets or other refracting or diffracting substance and being diffracted into its component spectrum of colors. That's anti-Biblical! As a Bible literalist, you must know the truth: the rainbow really is God's bow! That's what it very clearly and plainly says, and that passage is not poetry, prophecy, a dream, a vision, nor any other thing that could be taken symbolically by a Bible literalist. No, it's clearly written as an account of an actual historical event! It's meant to be taken literally!

Oh, and it's singular. Bow. Not bows. God apparently only had the one. So, you know that Double Rainbow video on YouTube™ or any other similar double rainbows that anyone has ever seen? Satanic illusion! Ditto any "reflection rainbows" supposedly seen near flat bodies of water. And, of course, all those previous Satanic illusions such as "rainbows" in the sprays of waterfalls, garden hoses, lawn sprinklers, the undersides of CDs, the refractions of prisms or diamonds or cut crystal, etc. etc. etc. − Satanic illusions all!

This is what you have to believe if you claim to be a Bible literalist!

Of course, if the Bible is right about this and science is wrong, then that whole scientifical theory (it's just a theeeeeory!!) about white light being made up of a spectrum of colors is also wrong! White and black are just colors in their own right, as the Bible repeatedly says in other places!

So, that means that every color photograph ever taken (based on CMY principles), every color image ever printed (CMYK), every color TV or computer monitor and every image thereon (RGB), and even the text you're reading now (computer RGB monitor!), are all Satanic illusions!

If you even reply to this post, you flatly disprove Bible literalism and prove science right and your religion wrong, since you prove that you're reading "black" text on a "white" background on a monitor that actually only has three colors: Red, Green, and Blue! If you even read this post, you've already proven that!

hubiestubert: Seriously folks, if THIS is your biggest fear:



then maybe you have chosen...poorly.

You know what gay folks want?

EXACTLY what everyone else wants. The right to find someone to love, to be with, want to be with, need to be with. Folks, to paraphrase Stephen King, who make houses in your heart.

They already do that. They already live their lives, but damnation, it would be easier if everyone would stop poking their noses in everyone else's business.

You know what my Grandmother called that? Rude. Rude was one of her highest sins, because it enabled all the rest. If you feel like you can be rude to folks, that means you lack respect for them, and that lack of respect leads to all the others. Respecting folks, so long as they don't hurt each other, that was her highest rule. It's sad that folks feel like they have any business poking their noses into other folks' lives.

She was a good Catholic woman. She gave up Catholicism because in the South it was damn hard to stay Catholic and still reach folks in the places she worked, so she became a Methodist, and she was a woman of deep principle. To be fair, she was sort of casually racist, as were a lot of folks, but she grew out of that while I lived with her, as my father was overseas, because she saw me playing with the kids in the neighborhood, and if my best friends were black, or brown, and I was half yellow, then it seemed kind of hard to hold onto those prejudices, and it did my heart a lot of good when she realized when she was wrong.

She taught me as much as how to be a man as my father or my Uncle Brian, because she laid the foundation. She was wasn't afraid to say, "I was wrong." And that is what is missing in today's debates on this issue. Few are willing to say, "I was wrong on this."

I am wrong on something damn near everyday. And luckily, I've got a good woman and some good friends who remind me of it, and keep me honest. We need to be able to do the same in instances of simple justice. Admitting when you're wrong, and wanting to rectify the situation isn't waffling, it isn't flip flopping, it's making a correction, and making things right. As a nation, we need to accept this far more often. Not the Romneyesque, "I have ALWAYS been for X" followed fairly soon by "I have ALWAYS been for Y." That doesn't admit the error, and it certainly offers no recompense or restitution or even an admission of being wrong. We need, as a nation, to be able to move on, and do better. On matters of race. On matters of gender equality. On matters of economic equality. On matters of sexuality. On matters of race. On matters of faith. The intransigence of trying to appear "strong" is what is hobbling us as a nation, and as a people.

Be the folks your dog thinks you are. Be THAT Awesome, and maybe we'll get through this. Until then, it's a crap shoot...

+1

Near as anyone currently alive knows for a fact, this is our one "life". Can't we be big enough people to give everyone the same shot at that we want?

/no snip, the goodness should be displayed