I just reread Civil War, it kinda sucked.

House of M aged a lot better.

/IMHO

Deadpool: I admit, I'm not much into comics these days but from what little I've seen of Deadpool he hardly seems heroic. More chaotic-neutral, if you ask me.

Venom: When I did read comics (early-mid 90's) even when Venom was a villain with a hard on for spidey, he was mostly chaotic-good outside of that. I even remember one where he stopped his pursuit of spidey to save an innocent from a river.

/could be wrong, not that into comics.

PsyLord: Can't read the list since I don't want to click a link with "topless" in it at work.

I used to think that too, but I haven't caught any flak about it yet.

10) Rogue
Rogue's been a stalwart member of the X-Men for a while now, but in her first appearance in 1981's Avengers Annual, she was explicitly evil, in that she was a member of Mystique's Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. The things kids will do for their moms, huh? She absorbed Ms. Marvel's powers and tried to murder her. Rogue made a few more appearances as an X-Men/Avengers villain before turning to Professor X to help her deal with the ever-louder voices in her head coming from people whose memories she absorbed. She's been with the X-Men ever since.

9 and 8) Hawkeye and Black Widow
Believe it or not, two of this summer's Avengers started out as Iron Man baddies. Natalia Romanova got her start as a Soviet spy who wanted to make that American metal man pay. She eventually defected to the United States. Clint Barton was less malevolent -- his initial villainy was the result of a misunderstanding, and he eventually fell in with Black Widow because they thought she was hot. Everything got cleared up and he joined the "replacement" Avengers (the second-ever team) in 1965. Widow joined up the next year, after shaking off some brainwashing.

7) Deadpool
Before the merc-with-a-mouth had a dozen concurrently running titles, he was a pretty direct rip-off of Deathstroke from DC's Teen Titans title (in fact, writer Fabian Nicieza named the character Wade Wilson as a nod to DC's Slade Wilson). He was initially an antagonist who attacked the New Mutants, but as the '90s did to many a character *cough*Punisher*cough*, Deadpool gained a following, started showing up in a ton of books and was carrying his own as a hero soon enough.

6) The Prowler
One of the many "angry unemployed" villains Spider-Man has encountered, Hobie Brown originally became The Prowler to steal stuff after getting fired from a window washing job. But Spider-Man gave him a talking to, he quit crime, and only prowled for good afterward.

5) Emma Frost
This is a weird one. Frost spent a bunch of years as the White Queen of the Hellfire Club, where she recruited mutants out from under Professor X (by basically hacking Cerebro), kidnapped Kitty Pryde multiple times, tortured other X-Men and had a near fight to the death with Jean Grey. It was only after the deaths of her students, the Hellions, that she told the Hellfire Club to go screw. Despite a few relapses (like killing her sister), Frost has remained more or less on the heroes side since, and is now Cyclops' #1 boo.

4) Songbird
After a stint hanging out with fellow supervillainesses Poundcakes, Titania and Letha in The Grapplers, a wrestling-lady-themed evil group, Songbird (then called Screaming Mimi) moved up to the big leagues and became a member of Baron Zemo's Masters of Evil, the group that eventually became the Thunderbolts, a supervillain team posing as superheroes. But she came around to liking her superheroic persona (as did other members of the Thunderbolts, I should note), and according to Kurt Busiek and Carlos Pacheco's Avengers Forever, is eventually going be an Avenger.

3) Morbius
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Michael Morbius may be a living vampire, but he isn't a bad guy, you know? At least, that's what every story with Morbius in it kind of is about. Even so, he has fought Spider-Man a bunch of times because he just can't keep himself in check when it comes to drinkin' that blood. However, recently, he seems to have figured some stuff out. Most recently, he helped cure the citizens of New York that time they all became spiders in the Spider Island arc. That was a nice thing to do.

2) Taskmaster
Using his abilities to mimic the fighting styles and attacks of anyone, Taskmaster first used his abilities to steal stuff (kind of a running theme here), then opened a school for training supervillains. The Avengers didn't like that too much, and shut him down, but he was back at it again soon enough, training U.S. Agent at the Red Skull's request. He'd continue to do a lot of that stuff (and pose as superheroes) until he trained Agent X (believed at the time to be Deadpool) and eventually being the chief trainer for the 50-states Initiative. While he hasn't been fully heroic all the time (he helped in the siege against Asgard), he most recently helped out Alpha Flight in Fear Itself, and if that isn't a hero move, I don't know what is.

1) Venom
Even when the Venom symbiote was attached to mostly-bad-guy Eddie Brock, it spent some time (which just happened to coincide with Venom's own series in the mid-'90s) fighting crime. But now that it's attached to military man Flash Thompson, the symbiote with a propensity to eat people (especially when it was bonded to the former Scorpion, Mac Gargan), is now a member of the Secret Avengers.


On a personal note-
I'd like to submit, for your approval, anti-hero The Goon. I can't get enough of this crime boss!

No Silver Surfer? I am disappoint.

PsyLord: Gunny Highway: I just reread Civil War, it kinda sucked.

House of M aged a lot better.

/IMHO

"Rebooting" Tony's brain was a cop out to all the shiat that he pulled while director of Shield.

Yeah, I agree.

On an unrelated note, I just read "Countdown to Infinite Crisis." Wow what an awesome book. I was blown away.

I thought Galactus was a good guy??

Hawkeye is a ripoff of Green Arrow,

and where's the Aquaman movie?

Juggernaut joined the Xmen, and scored with She-Hulk. I'd switch sides too with incentive like that.

Subdue their bellies: Juggernaut joined the Xmen, and scored with She-Hulk. I'd switch sides too with incentive like that.

Dude... she's hot, yea, but she's been passed around the super-strong so much she's gotta be on Madonna's scale for wide hallway, ya know?

So, they have Emma Frost, but not Magneto? Makes sense.

I need to correct my last post. She-Hulk regenerates like her cousin does so she'd be perpetually perfect....

oh my.

Current Resident: MoronLessOff: PsyLord: Can't read the list since I don't want to click a link with "topless" in it at work.

I used to think that too, but I haven't caught any flak about it yet.


Thanks for posting the list.

Topless Robot is block at my work.

My pleasure.


PsyLord: chaoswolf: Subdue their bellies: Juggernaut joined the Xmen, and scored with She-Hulk. I'd switch sides too with incentive like that.

Dude... she's hot, yea, but she's been passed around the super-strong so much she's gotta be on Madonna's scale for wide hallway, ya know?

It regenerates... so more Like a Virgin? Plus you can go bareback since you don't have to worry about getting a disease from her since the Hulks can't seem to get normal human infections.

NEEEEERDS!

>> "Rebooting" Tony's brain was a cop out to all the shiat that he pulled while director of Shield.

Compare Tony and Hank Pym.

>>Tony screws up (Tells everyone he's Iron Man)
MINDWIPE THE WORLD TO FIX IT

>>Tony screws up again (The Crossing)
HIT THE HISTORY ERASER BUTTON

>>Tony screws up AGAIN (Civil War)
HE CAN'T REMEMBER SO HE IS PURE AS THE DRIVEN SNOW

Vs. Hank:

>> Hank slaps his wife once in the midst of a mental breakdown
GUILTY FOREVER THERE IS NO REDEMPTION

Thanks Marvel! That's ever so consistent.

Treygreen13: Came here to point out that Deadpool isn't so much a Superhero as he is a super powered force of chaos.

Very rarely are the things he's doing "good" other than when he's teamed up with somebody else. And that's generally because they're doing something good and Deadpool thinks it would be profitable (or fun) to go along.

If anyone asks how to run a Chaotic Neutral character in D&D, I always point them to Deadpool. Dude's the definition of Chaotic Neutral.

none of those are supervillains. they are just plain old villains. supervillains are people like Galactus, Magneto, Thanos, Loki, the uber-powers of the Marvel-verse.

and for some stupid reason Taskmaster and Songbird are on there but Psylocke isn't. weak.

The Flexecutioner: none of those are supervillains. they are just plain old villains. supervillains are people like Galactus, Magneto, Thanos, Loki, the uber-powers of the Marvel-verse.

and for some stupid reason Taskmaster and Songbird are on there but Psylocke isn't. weak.

Galactus isn't a really a villain

Funbags: So, they have Emma Frost, but not Magneto? Makes sense.

Well, the article did state that they were trying to go with characters that made the switch from villain to hero and stayed that way. Magneto tends to switch back and forth.

Subdue their bellies: Juggernaut joined the Xmen, and scored with She-Hulk. I'd switch sides too with incentive like that.

Jen does love to sleep around but the Juggy thing is a case of mistaken identity

Turns out there was an interdimensional outfit that sold vacation trips where people could come to the 616 as imitations of the superheroes in the 616 and do things like fark the Juggernaut disguised as She-Hulk

A.R.M.O.R discovered and shut down this tourism in Dan Slott's 2nd She Hulk series


I like this quote about A.R.M.O.R:
A.R.M.O.R. is so secret that it 'makes S.W.O.R.D. look like S.H.I.E.L.D., and S.H.I.E.L.D. look like the Post Office'

The English Major: tmntman: Magneto tends to switch back and forth

You might say he's...bipolar.

/golfclap

Gunny Highway: I just reread Civil War, it kinda sucked.

House of M aged a lot better.

/IMHO

Civil War was always overhyped, overrated, pretentious, yet derivative horseshiat. The real "event" that year from Marvel was Annihilation (art notwithstanding). DC absolutely blew them away with 52.

Yet Civil War is still talked about. Screw that, I Don't Need Your Civil War FTW!

I don't read comics, I know I'm a lamer. But seems like there's way too many superheroes/supervillains.

If there can be hundreds or thousands of them, who cares?

Granted, the tits are nice.