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(Talking Points Memo)   George Zimmerman wants a private meeting with the parents of Trayvon Martin. Preferably in a dark alley on a cool, rainy day   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 551
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2012-04-19 04:04:25 PM  
You know, I've read too many threads with all this yammering back and forth. Here's my view:

Whatever Zimmerman gets from a jury of his peers is okay with me. I don't think anyone will ever know EXACTLY what happened. But if a jury hears the evidence, and sends Zimmerman away for a while, that's fine with me, because, lets face it, no matter how things went down right before the gunshot, Zimmerman was openly stalking Martin at night, through an area Martin had every right to be in.

(And no, I don't mean the Florida penal code of "stalking", I mean, like a lion stalks a gazelle, "stalking"...)

I seems to me that Zimmerman was CLEARLY overzealous about his "job" as neighborhood watch, and such vigilante-type behavior ultimately resulted in the death of Martin. I have no problem with him being punished for that fault.

At the same time, if a jury just can't get past reasonable doubt to convict, I'm not going to second guess a jury that heard all the relevant evidence and had to come to a conclusion. All armchair judging aside.

IMO, from my view from the cheap seats, Zimmerman's aggressive actions spooked this kid, put him on the defensive, and possibly in fear for his life. Its clear from any view point that Martin knew he was being stalked. Couple that with the fact that Martin knows he's not doing anything wrong, but he might feel like he's being hunted by some potential psycho at night.

Either way, Zimmerman holds a lions share of the blame for the angry confrontation that resulted, regardless of who the ultimate close-range aggressor was.

On a somewhat unrelated note, I'd also like to say, that after listening to some of the 911 calls, its weird to me that someone was screaming for help for what seemed like an eternity. That confuses me. Why would Zimmerman scream for help for a minute or so, if all he had to do was pull his guy and threaten to shoot? Or even just shoot in the air to frighten the attacker. I'm afraid that it was Martin was screaming for help because Zimmerman was telling him he was about to die. But that's just conjecture all around. I imagine the autopsy and ballistics peak volumes.

K, I'm done.
 
2012-04-19 04:04:53 PM  

bulldg4life: You seem to have missed the posts full of latent racism, joy over the death of Martin, and enough logical inconsistencies to make baby Jesus cry.


We can make those claims on both sides of the aisle.

For example, people keep making the claim that there's no proof that Martin started the fight. While true, there are two things wrong with their argument. The first is that the defendant isn't required to prove their innocence. Secondly, Florida's SYG law specifically states that you can be the aggressor in a fight and still use deadly force in self defense if you have a reasonable fear that your life is in danger. Saying that we don't know that the kid started the fight as some sort of evidence that GZ is guilty just isn't true.
 
2012-04-19 04:05:24 PM  

I_C_Weener:


That is epic and WTF at the same time...
 
2012-04-19 04:06:21 PM  

Samaura: That article is based on an ABC airing, that was retracted a bit later after video imaging clearly showed the gashes on the back of zimmerman's head. So any claim he wasnt wounded is moot, and not informed.


www.scibuff.com
Yes, video imaging enhancement never unintentionally amplifies noise that can then be identified by a biased observer as completely confirming his preconceived notions.

Here's a question... Assuming for the sake of argument that the gashes were real and Zimmerman's nose really was broken, then why wasn't his shirt stained with blood? Head wounds and broken noses bleed a lot... and yet, particularly in the later shots of the video where he's heading directly towards the camera, his shirt is apparently spotless:
a.abcnews.com
 
2012-04-19 04:06:56 PM  

user68: For example, people keep making the claim that there's no proof that Martin started the fight. While true, there are two things wrong with their argument. The first is that the defendant isn't required to prove their innocence. Secondly, Florida's SYG law specifically states that you can be the aggressor in a fight and still use deadly force in self defense if you have a reasonable fear that your life is in danger. Saying that we don't know that the kid started the fight as some sort of evidence that GZ is guilty just isn't true.


People who go on and on about Martin starting the fight are usually pro-Zimmerman people who state it with no evidence whatsoever simply to validate the shooting.

And, that isn't an example of latent racism, joy over the death of Martin, or a logical inconsistency.
 
2012-04-19 04:07:01 PM  

Skyrmion: A few years ago in my area there was an incident where a white teenager was shot dead by a middle-aged black man who claimed self-defense. Admittedly unlike the Zimmerman case, the teen was hardly innocent at the time (drunk and trying to steal cigarettes from an unlocked car), and the man was arrested immediately. Attitudes about the case appeared to play mostly down the liberal-conservative line with respect to gun control. When the guy was eventually acquitted on self-defense grounds, most liberals seemed to think it was a travesty with no justice for the teen and the Freepers were saying, "Good, that punk kid got what he deserved."


Are you talking about the case in which the guy's son was (falsely) suspected of some wrongdoing? Kids went to the home to confront the son, but were faced with the father armed with a gun?

If so, I remember that case very well. I remember reading about it in newspapers like the NYPost. I remember the comments.

Your claim that race didn't come into the analysis is simply incredible.
 
2012-04-19 04:07:40 PM  

Weaver95: I still don't understand why you think Zimmerman is innocent. nothing in the evidence says Martin was doing anything wrong.


Unless all the cops are lying the reverse of that is true.
 
2012-04-19 04:07:53 PM  

Theaetetus: Here's a question... Assuming for the sake of argument that the gashes were real and Zimmerman's nose really was broken, then why wasn't his shirt stained with blood? Head wounds and broken noses bleed a lot... and yet, particularly in the later shots of the video where he's heading directly towards the camera, his shirt is apparently spotless:


He also shot someone in the chest that was on top of him and struggling. Yet, his shirt and jacket are spotless.

The guy is a Wolverine-version of Mr. Clean.
 
2012-04-19 04:08:28 PM  
Nothing Zimmerman does will ever equal the total stupidity of the White Guilt Liberals who continue to follow Al Sharpton, New Black Panthers, Lamestream Media.

Not sure which to worry about more when Zimmerman walks: The 'hoods in Sanford rioting, or the mass hysteria from the White Guilt Liberals?
 
2012-04-19 04:08:53 PM  

philotech: Theaetetus: philotech: But, ignoring your ignorance, for the moment, How did Martin and Zimmerman end up in a physical altercation near Zimmerman's vehicle if Martin did not follow him back to it?

Since Martin was killed in the grassy area between the two rows of houses, quite a distance from Zimmerman's vehicle, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Are you saying Zimmerman drove his vehicle into someone's back yard?

Let's split the difference and say that it occurred midway between the car and the point where he lost sight of Martin and began walking back to the car. The point in case you missed it was that at a certain point Martin started following Zimmerman back to his car. Both are douches.


Well, hold up, hoss... First, you were saying that it occurred "near Zimmerman's vehicle," and now you're admitting that wasn't true?
I just want to confirm we're on the same page.

Also, if it occurred "midway between the car and point where he lost sight of Martin," then he must have watched Martin go into his house, because where Martin was killed was midway between his house and Zimmerman's car.
 
2012-04-19 04:08:59 PM  
I had no idea that Fark was so populated with video and blood spatter analysts. You guys don't have actual cases to work on?
 
2012-04-19 04:10:12 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: I had no idea that Fark was so populated with video and blood spatter analysts. You guys don't have actual cases to work on?


In order to use our GEDs in Blood Spatter Analysis, doesn't there first have to be some blood?
 
2012-04-19 04:10:17 PM  

Weaver95: 9beers: Weaver95: except there's no evidence that actually happened.

Yes, there's no evidence of Martin assaulting Zimmerman, except for...

an eyewitness [unreliable]
a police report [incorrect]
paramedics [huh?]
a video [again - huh?]
neighbors who saw Zimmerman in bandages the next day [still not evidence of an attack]

Keep on derping.

you're the guy with the derptastic worldview. Zimmerman gunned down that kid in cold blood.


Hey, Weave (May I call you Weave?), seriously, don't get too heavily invested in Martin being totally innocent and Zimmerman being a cold blooded monster. It might end up biting you in the ass later on. When Zimmerman is let go because either a judge administratively determines he acted in self-defense, or a jury refuses to convict*, you are going to look silly.

*And under Florida law, unless there is some overwhelming evidence that hasn't been made public, it's looking like one or the other is going to happen, if the DA doesn't drop the charges first.
 
2012-04-19 04:10:36 PM  

INeedAName: 2 Grams, 9Beers, Zippolight2002, Silly Jesus. Any other idiots on Fark today?


Lots of them. My troll list has been lighting up like a christmas tree of late.
 
2012-04-19 04:11:07 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: I had no idea that Fark was so populated with video and blood spatter analysts. You guys don't have actual cases to work on?


It'd be easier to be blood spatter analysts if there was blood to look at.

Of course, look at all the people who can know that Martin started the fight, so Zimmerman was right in shooting him. More amazing than Kreskin.
 
2012-04-19 04:11:26 PM  

djkutch: 9beers: Weaver95: except there's no evidence that actually happened.

Yes, there's no evidence of Martin assaulting Zimmerman, except for...

an eyewitness
a police report
paramedics
a video
neighbors who saw Zimmerman in bandages the next day

Keep on derping.

Then, why is he charged with second degree murder?


Maybe to uh... I dunno... postpone riots and hope you get re-elected?
 
2012-04-19 04:11:35 PM  
Hey... guys... guys! Has anyone suggested that the DA skipped the grand jury and charged Zimmerman with second degree murder because it's highly likely to end with an acquittal or hung jury while also pacifying public outrage?
 
2012-04-19 04:11:55 PM  
I'm guessing Zimmy will go down like power windows.
I'm also guessing the Aryans in the GP will not want to do anything with him outside of punk or shank. The brothers will all want a piece of him. I don't the latinos will want to do anything with him but shake him down. He's basically farked.
And if he's out on the streets, he's a farking target for every gangbanger looking for cred and getting his first bones.
Might as well just tattoo a huge target on his front and back at this point.
Either that or move in with Casey Anthony.
But I heard she was living with OJ now.
 
2012-04-19 04:12:17 PM  

Theaetetus: The_Six_Fingered_Man: I had no idea that Fark was so populated with video and blood spatter analysts. You guys don't have actual cases to work on?

In order to use our GEDs in Blood Spatter Analysis, doesn't there first have to be some blood?


Well, when combined with your advanced completion certificate in video analysis dissecting a video that clearly shows no blood, no matter how minute, I don't see why.
 
2012-04-19 04:13:07 PM  

bulldg4life: People who go on and on about Martin starting the fight are usually pro-Zimmerman people who state it with no evidence whatsoever simply to validate the shooting.

And, that isn't an example of latent racism, joy over the death of Martin, or a logical inconsistency.


Given what we know about the events of that evening, I can see how people can come to the conclusion that Trayvon started the fight. I can also see how people could come to the conclusion that George did.

As for racism, I think it's those making the assumption that supporters of George are only doing so because of their racism against African Americans that need to take a step back and listen to what they're saying. Disprove their claims with facts, not baseless comments.
 
2012-04-19 04:13:07 PM  

2 grams:

There's now a 2nd call between MArtin and the girlfriend? I doubt that. You use the word "Released" Does that mean there's a copy (recording ) of it? That would be odd.


The girlfriend has claimed in another news article (through the Martin family attorney) that there was another call.

She heard Martin ask someone "Why are you following me?" followed by someone asking "What are you doing here?" heard a scuffle, and the line went dead.

/wish this story would just go away until the trial
 
2012-04-19 04:13:10 PM  

dittybopper: you are going to look silly.


Why would he look silly?

I mean, besides the "aha! A jury couldn't convict given the limited amount of evidence and a murky situation....the joke's on you!"
 
2012-04-19 04:13:47 PM  

vegasj: Maybe to uh... I dunno... postpone riots and hope you get re-elected?


Do you realize that charging a person with a crime when the prosecutor lacks sufficient evidence that such crime occurred can get the prosecutor disbarred? Or, did you not realize that?
 
2012-04-19 04:14:05 PM  

eraser8: Skyrmion: A few years ago in my area there was an incident where a white teenager was shot dead by a middle-aged black man who claimed self-defense. Admittedly unlike the Zimmerman case, the teen was hardly innocent at the time (drunk and trying to steal cigarettes from an unlocked car), and the man was arrested immediately. Attitudes about the case appeared to play mostly down the liberal-conservative line with respect to gun control. When the guy was eventually acquitted on self-defense grounds, most liberals seemed to think it was a travesty with no justice for the teen and the Freepers were saying, "Good, that punk kid got what he deserved."

Are you talking about the case in which the guy's son was (falsely) suspected of some wrongdoing? Kids went to the home to confront the son, but were faced with the father armed with a gun?

If so, I remember that case very well. I remember reading about it in newspapers like the NYPost. I remember the comments.

Your claim that race didn't come into the analysis is simply incredible.


No, you must be thinking of a different case. This was a guy who went out with his gun to challenge some kids messing around his neighbor's car to shoo them off.

I'm certainly not saying race doesn't come into it at all, but I think it's much less of a factor than many people (such as yourself) are implying.
 
2012-04-19 04:14:07 PM  

Weaver95: 9beers: I'm not getting drawn into another thread full of retard logic, you guys have your fun. Besides, the only new piece of evidence that's been made public since the last thread is that multiple neighbors saw Zimmerman covered in bandages the day following the shooting.

Have fun mob, don't forget the pitchforks.

you're just tired of being proven wrong over and over and over again. deep down I think even YOU understand that backing zimmerman is a losing proposition.


I live in Seminole County...I have served on juries in this county. No jury in Seminole County will convict Zimmerman.....zip zero. I know...and you don't

Have you picked out your 'hood yet? Ya know..where you gonna riot?
 
2012-04-19 04:14:55 PM  

UCFRoadWarrior: Nothing Zimmerman does will ever equal the total stupidity of the White Guilt Liberals who continue to follow Al Sharpton, New Black Panthers, Lamestream Media.

Not sure which to worry about more when Zimmerman walks: The 'hoods in Sanford rioting, or the mass hysteria from the White Guilt Liberals?


5/10. You'll get some bites.
 
2012-04-19 04:16:19 PM  
It doesn't matter what the Fark Zimmerman headline is, the thread is exactly the same. Copy and paste the last one, close the comments and move the fark on.
 
2012-04-19 04:17:06 PM  

vegasj: djkutch: 9beers: Weaver95: except there's no evidence that actually happened.

Yes, there's no evidence of Martin assaulting Zimmerman, except for...

an eyewitness
a police report
paramedics
a video
neighbors who saw Zimmerman in bandages the next day

Keep on derping.

Then, why is he charged with second degree murder?

Maybe to uh... I dunno... postpone riots and hope you get re-elected?


You're suggesting our elected officials are manipulating the law to serve their own purposes or deceive angry mobs demanding blood? That's utter nonsense, even by Fark's standards. You should be ashamed for hypothesizing such a completely unprecedented event in this day and age!
 
2012-04-19 04:17:18 PM  

dittybopper: Hey, Weave (May I call you Weave?), seriously, don't get too heavily invested in Martin being totally innocent and Zimmerman being a cold blooded monster. It might end up biting you in the ass later on. When Zimmerman is let go because either a judge administratively determines he acted in self-defense, or a jury refuses to convict*, you are going to look silly.

*And under Florida law, unless there is some overwhelming evidence that hasn't been made public, it's looking like one or the other is going to happen, if the DA doesn't drop the charges first.


Regardless of whether or not the court finds enough evidence to convict him beyond reasonable doubt, I don't think we'll ever know the truth for sure.

Of course, that means everyone heavily invested on either side of this case will be insisting they are right forever.
 
2012-04-19 04:17:31 PM  

dracos31: INeedAName: 2 Grams, 9Beers, Zippolight2002, Silly Jesus. Any other idiots on Fark today?

Lots of them. My troll list has been lighting up like a christmas tree of late.


Becasue people who disagree with you musts be trolls. There can be no other reason. Right?
 
2012-04-19 04:18:22 PM  

eraser8: vegasj: Maybe to uh... I dunno... postpone riots and hope you get re-elected?

Do you realize that charging a person with a crime when the prosecutor lacks sufficient evidence that such crime occurred can get the prosecutor disbarred? Or, did you not realize that?


Because that's stopped people in the past?
 
2012-04-19 04:18:41 PM  
Too many people out there have this sick fantasy/fetish of wanting to kill another human being.
 
2012-04-19 04:18:48 PM  
Considering it's Florida, he'll be waiting for a long time for a day like that subby.
 
2012-04-19 04:19:17 PM  

Weaver95: 9beers: "I'm sorry you didn't do a better job raising your son so that he didn't grow up thinking that violence was the answer".

I still don't understand why you think Zimmerman is innocent. nothing in the evidence says Martin was doing anything wrong.


Besides the witness who said he saw Zimmerman being pinned to the ground and beaten my Martin, or the wounds and broken nose clearly visible in the station video, you're right, there is no evidence.

www.wagist.com

www.wagist.com

/don't tell me - zimmerman was so overcome with his hatred of blacks that he smashed his own head against the sidewalk and broke his own nose against the curb to cover up his racism
//also that witness' voice is clearly white. His whiteness makes him so racist that he was willing to lie for Zimmerman. That he didn't show his face on camera simply makes him a lying cowardly racist
//racist
 
2012-04-19 04:19:36 PM  

2 grams: dracos31: INeedAName: 2 Grams, 9Beers, Zippolight2002, Silly Jesus. Any other idiots on Fark today?

Lots of them. My troll list has been lighting up like a christmas tree of late.

Becasue people who disagree with you musts be trolls. There can be no other reason. Right?


Yeah, pretty much. If u mad about it then hey, can't help you there.
 
2012-04-19 04:20:51 PM  
Someone post pictures of the hot judge that was asked to remove herself from the case due to conflict of interest.

/she is a babe
//on my phone
/// can't post pictures
 
2012-04-19 04:21:14 PM  

GoodyearPimp: 2 grams: If you get away from the media hype and look at the facts, it's not as cut and dry as MSNBC would have you belive. Zimmerman's testimony is that while following Martin, Martin came back around and attacked Zimmerman. "you got a promlem? you do now"

It's my understanding that supposedly while on top of Zimmerman and cracking Zimmerman's skull against the ground, Martin said something to the effect of "you're going to die tonight"

Let this go to the courts.

And the problem most rational people have is that, absent any other witnesses, it is the word of one armed man vs. the word of a corpse armed with Skittles and iced tea.


So it WAS the one armed man! A-ha!

www.fiftiesweb.com
 
2012-04-19 04:21:33 PM  

UCFRoadWarrior: Nothing Zimmerman does will ever equal the total stupidity of the White Guilt Liberals who continue to follow Al Sharpton, New Black Panthers, Lamestream Media.

Not sure which to worry about more when Zimmerman walks: The 'hoods in Sanford rioting, or the mass hysteria from the White Guilt Liberals?


They were wrong about Tawanna Bradley, Jena5, Duke lacrosse sexual assault case, and pretty much everything else they ever rallied around.

But give them a chance, they might be right one of these days.
 
2012-04-19 04:22:23 PM  
I like how everyone involved in the case is trying to run away as fast as possible. Prosecutors, lawyers, judges, etc.

That's how you know nobody will like the outcome.
 
2012-04-19 04:23:12 PM  

Von_Ruff: Hey... guys... guys! Has anyone suggested that the DA skipped the grand jury and charged Zimmerman with second degree murder because it's highly likely to end with an acquittal or hung jury while also pacifying public outrage?


Yes.....although I think it was done to pacify the New Black Panthers...who had been protesting outside the Special Prosecutors office over another crime comitted by a 12 yr old Black Hispanic. This Angela Corey wanted to get the Black Panthers off her case

Fortunately for Zimmerman this trial will be in Seminole County, and few blacks even show up when called for jury duty. Sanford has a large black population, but the rest of the county is mostly white and Hispanic

Living in Seminole County, I know some of the people who are working with the case. There is a reason why the Dept of Justice is here in the county...they have been made aware of the FACTS, and prepping for riots
 
2012-04-19 04:23:33 PM  

eraser8: LordJiro: So Zimmerman being injured means Martin started the fight? Well, by that logic, since Martin is dead, that proves Zimmerman started the fight.

I can't prove it for 9beers...but, for most of the people championing Zimmerman, the logic seems to go like this: Martin was black, so he deserved whatever he got.

Just as bad are the people who want Zimmerman to go free solely because they think it'll hurt Al Sharpton. There's something seriously wrong in the head with people who "think" like that.


Facts and reality are racist. Fight the power of facts!
 
2012-04-19 04:24:26 PM  

philotech: Weaver95: 2 grams:
Becasue the evidence supports that while Zimmerman may be an idiot, he did nothing illegal. His position is self defense while Martin had attacked him..

except that the evidence suggests that Zimmerman provoked the fight.

Provocation is not assault... Throwing the first punch is assault.


Florida Statute: " Use of force in defense of person.--A person

7 is justified in using that is intended or

8 likely to cause death or bodily injury,

9 against another when and to the extent that the person

10 reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend

11 himself or herself or another against the other's

12 imminent use of unlawful force or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible

17 felony. A person does not have a duty to retreat if the person

18 is in a place where he or she has a right to be."

That's the statute. You're critically wrong in that the statute doesn't require you to BE assaulted first: "the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other's imminent use of unlawful force": you only need to THINK the other person's likely to assault you. Actually, you CAN be mistaken and it's still legal, too, as long as your mistaken belief was deemed "reasonable".

We don't know what actually happened between Martin and Zimmerman on a blow-by-blow basis. But Martin had zero motivation to attack Zimmerman, except in self-defense. Zimmerman had strange, unreasonable motivations to confront Martin.

The thing is, with this guy chasing him down the street, Martin was plausibly defending himself. He really didn't have motivation to do anything else. He would have been justified in knocking Zimmerman down and pommeling him to ensure he didn't get back up. And Zimmerman was then justified in killing him.

So let's assume Martin DID throw the first blow. That's actually arguably legal, he could have bashed Zimmerman's head in with a brick legally, because if you ask me, this guy follows you down an empty street at night, closes on you, yeah he's there to assault, rob, kidnap, rape you. Esp if he tried to grab Martin or pull a gun. In fact, IMHO, the way I picture Zimmerman closing on Martin, it's safe for Martin to assume Zimmerman WAS armed even if he DIDN'T brandish, because an unarmed man simply does not follow and close in on another person on the street.

And through a perversion of logic, Martin was essentially proven "reasonable" in the belief that Zimmerman might imminently kill him when Martin "defended" himself, and Zimmerman DID kill him.

The law wildly bypasses all principles of escalation. Under the law, hypothetically speaking, two reasonable people, licensed concealed-carry gun owners, could see one another and both say "if I legally drew my gun right now, he would probably see me and kill me, so I can legally kill him". Which makes no farking sense at all, but the law allows that, and the law goes to unusual lengths to try to tie the judiciary's hands in determining reasonability, by both issuing an absolute degree of immunity, and legally defining reasonability in this flawed manner which can tie the hands of judge and jury.
 
2012-04-19 04:25:14 PM  

vudukungfu: I'm also guessing the Aryans in the GP will not want to do anything with him outside of punk or shank. The brothers will all want a piece of him. I don't the latinos will want to do anything with him but shake him down. He's basically farked.


He would never be in gen pop
 
2012-04-19 04:25:28 PM  

Skyrmion: I'm certainly not saying race doesn't come into it at all, but I think it's much less of a factor than many people (such as yourself) are implying.


The thing is, in this case, Martin was doing NOTHING wrong.

He wasn't molesting anyone's car or home. He was minding his own business. He was trying to get home to his dad.
 
2012-04-19 04:25:49 PM  

IanMoone: 2 grams:

There's now a 2nd call between MArtin and the girlfriend? I doubt that. You use the word "Released" Does that mean there's a copy (recording ) of it? That would be odd.

The girlfriend has claimed in another news article (through the Martin family attorney) that there was another call.

She heard Martin ask someone "Why are you following me?" followed by someone asking "What are you doing here?" heard a scuffle, and the line went dead.

/wish this story would just go away until the trial


That's strange because the original story has the line going dead and she didn't say that. Much like the Martin's statement that they thought it was an accidnet, I think the lawers (on both sides) are shutting everyone up and trying to position what has already been relased in the best light to support thier own story.

The spin doctors are working overtime.
 
2012-04-19 04:26:31 PM  
What we're all forgetting is who is really being persecuted with this story:

White People.

We have it so tough in this country.

/sarcasm
 
2012-04-19 04:28:20 PM  

ChuDogg: UCFRoadWarrior: Nothing Zimmerman does will ever equal the total stupidity of the White Guilt Liberals who continue to follow Al Sharpton, New Black Panthers, Lamestream Media.

Not sure which to worry about more when Zimmerman walks: The 'hoods in Sanford rioting, or the mass hysteria from the White Guilt Liberals?

They were wrong about Tawanna Bradley, Jena5, Duke lacrosse sexual assault case, and pretty much everything else they ever rallied around.

But give them a chance, they might be right one of these days.


Looks like they are wrong again. Very badly wrong.

Nothing is more Moron Derpcon 5 than listening to what Al Sharpton says....
 
2012-04-19 04:28:24 PM  

beta_plus: Besides the witness who said he saw Zimmerman being pinned to the ground and beaten my Martin,


Is that the same one that didn't see who started the fight?
 
2012-04-19 04:29:36 PM  
One sad thing about this is that the Sanford cops who coached him to lie in his statement to escape conviction are driving around right now looking for the "real" killers.
And of course by "real" I mean "attractive and successful."
 
2012-04-19 04:30:35 PM  

UCFRoadWarrior: Von_Ruff: Hey... guys... guys! Has anyone suggested that the DA skipped the grand jury and charged Zimmerman with second degree murder because it's highly likely to end with an acquittal or hung jury while also pacifying public outrage?

Yes.....although I think it was done to pacify the New Black Panthers...who had been protesting outside the Special Prosecutors office over another crime comitted by a 12 yr old Black Hispanic. This Angela Corey wanted to get the Black Panthers off her case

Fortunately for Zimmerman this trial will be in Seminole County, and few blacks even show up when called for jury duty. Sanford has a large black population, but the rest of the county is mostly white and Hispanic

Living in Seminole County, I know some of the people who are working with the case. There is a reason why the Dept of Justice is here in the county...they have been made aware of the FACTS, and prepping for riots


Thanks for that info. These threads go to hell in short order from trolls and the unhinged, so I appreciate anything that doesn't fuel the idiocy.
 
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