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(Talking Points Memo)   George Zimmerman wants a private meeting with the parents of Trayvon Martin. Preferably in a dark alley on a cool, rainy day   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 551
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2012-04-19 11:37:15 AM
I'm just going to say it: Submitter is an imbecile.
 
2012-04-19 11:44:18 AM
Private until made public in court, I hope.
 
2012-04-19 11:58:55 AM
Dude is nuts. Out of control. He is the nightmare client, and any lawyer stupid enough to take him on deserves the misery that will ensue.
 
2012-04-19 12:08:22 PM
I wouldn't go into any alleys with George Zimmerman if I were them....

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2012-04-19 12:28:45 PM
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2012-04-19 12:43:51 PM
Sounds life-threatening. Stand your ground, parents!
 
2012-04-19 12:46:20 PM
On so many levels, this is a bad idea.

If you're feeling guilt, regret, remorse, Mr. Zimmerman (and I'm sure you are) write a letter. Hopefully your attorney is smart enough to not deliver it.

/"skittles-memorials" are just as stupid
 
2012-04-19 12:52:13 PM
is Zimmerman mentally retarded or something? dude seems too stupid to live.
 
2012-04-19 12:55:48 PM
Richard Saunders: If you're feeling guilt, regret, remorse, Mr. Zimmerman (and I'm sure you are)

I have a hard time believing that he feels any of those things.
 
2012-04-19 01:02:49 PM
Weaver95: is Zimmerman mentally retarded or something? dude seems too stupid to live.

He tried to become a cop down here in Northern VA when he lived here and was basically told GTFO.
 
2012-04-19 01:17:19 PM
gilgigamesh: Dude is nuts. Out of control. He is the nightmare client, and any lawyer stupid enough to take him on deserves the misery that will ensue.

Casey Anthony was smart enough to STFU early on. If she acted like Zimmerman she would be behind bars. Zimmerman is going down hard. You never ever ever have any contact no matter how tiny with the victims family.
 
2012-04-19 01:17:50 PM
Zimmerman: Im really sorry I shot and Killed your son.

Martins Parents: 0_o

Zimmerman: I mean I really do apologize I assure you I felt threatened.

Martins Parents: 0_o

Zimmerman: Do you think you can find it in your heart to forgive me? I am asking purely on the principle of forgiveness found in Matthew 18?

Martins Parents: fark You!
 
2012-04-19 01:19:04 PM
I_C_Weener: [i586.photobucket.com image 497x749]

That's actually a surprisingly well thought out memorial and protest. Cool.
 
2012-04-19 01:30:29 PM
sammyk: gilgigamesh: Dude is nuts. Out of control. He is the nightmare client, and any lawyer stupid enough to take him on deserves the misery that will ensue.

Casey Anthony was smart enough to STFU early on. If she acted like Zimmerman she would be behind bars. Zimmerman is going down hard. You never ever ever have any contact no matter how tiny with the victims family.


yeah...I just don't get this guy. its like he NEEDS to be in the spotlight.
 
2012-04-19 01:37:25 PM
"I'm sorry you didn't do a better job raising your son so that he didn't grow up thinking that violence was the answer".
 
2012-04-19 01:47:33 PM
9beers: "I'm sorry you didn't do a better job raising your son so that he didn't grow up thinking that violence was the answer".

I still don't understand why you think Zimmerman is innocent. nothing in the evidence says Martin was doing anything wrong.
 
2012-04-19 01:56:00 PM
Weaver95: 9beers: "I'm sorry you didn't do a better job raising your son so that he didn't grow up thinking that violence was the answer".

I still don't understand why you think Zimmerman is innocent. nothing in the evidence says Martin was doing anything wrong.


He needs to believe. Accepting that there was something wrong with the actions of Zimmerman probably requires him to challenge his beliefs in a way that he can't accept.

It's sad, sort of.
 
2012-04-19 01:56:16 PM
Weaver95: 9beers: "I'm sorry you didn't do a better job raising your son so that he didn't grow up thinking that violence was the answer".

I still don't understand why you think Zimmerman is innocent. nothing in the evidence says Martin was doing anything wrong.


How dare Martin defend himself when a strange man who was stalking him suddenly attacked him.
 
2012-04-19 02:03:15 PM
I don't think a private meeting like that would be very good idea.
 
2012-04-19 02:16:56 PM
SkinnyHead: I don't think a private meeting like that would be very good idea.

This is how bad of an idea this is.
 
2012-04-19 02:21:10 PM
9beers: "I'm sorry you didn't do a better job raising your son so that he didn't grow up thinking that violence was the answer".

But enough of what Zimmerman's parents would say.
 
2012-04-19 02:26:32 PM
Zimmerman is clearly mentally unbalanced.
 
2012-04-19 02:27:05 PM
9beers: "I'm sorry you didn't do a better job raising your son so that he didn't grow up thinking that violence was the answer".

Wait..what?
 
2012-04-19 02:32:23 PM
SkinnyHead: I don't think a private meeting like that would be very good idea.

and that right there is why Zimmerman is an idiot.
 
2012-04-19 02:36:54 PM
Link

Interesting how Zimmerman fits so many of these

Paranoid personality disorder:
Persons with paranoid disorder usually will have suspiciousness, litigiousness, jealousy, and envy. A person with this disorder may not look in to the depth of a particular problem. The having paranoid personality disorder will have a tendency to blame others. These person may not have any sense of humor at all.

Explosive personality disorder:
Persons with explosive personality disorder may show outbursts of rage and aggression not in keeping with usual personality, often in response to minor provocation: These persons with explosive personality disorder may lose control over a situation and then regret later.

Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder:
Persons with chronic often worries about standards in routine life. These people will be concerned about his self-image excessively. Persons with chronic often worries usually will not be able to relax and be overly meticulous, and expects perfection in everything. This leads to depression and obsessive-compulsive neurosis.

Hysterical personality disorder:
Persons with hysterical personality disorder will show immaturity, histrionic behavior and excitability. These people will be emotionally unstable and have low frustration tolerance.

Passive-aggressive personality disorder:
Persons with passive-aggressive personality disorder may exhibit obstructive behavior, stubbornness, intentional errors or omissions. The person with passive-aggressive personality disorder may blame others for an untoward event.

Inadequate personality disorder:
Persons with inadequate personality disorder often have chronic inability to meet ordinary life demands in the absence of mental retardation. There is severe dependency on others. The person with inadequate personality disorder will have tendency to become dependent on institutions.

Antisocial personality disorder:
Persons with antisocial personality disorder may have un-socialized or antisocial behavior in conflict with society. The person with antisocial personality disorder may be selfish. There will be lack of loyalty and little guilt. The person with antisocial personality disorder will have tendency to blame others and will have low frustration tolerance. There may be long history of interpersonal and social difficulties and arrests.


Immature personality disorder:
These types of persons have ineffectual responses to social, psychological and physical demands. A person with immature personality disorder will lack stamina and will have poor adaptation capability to ordinary situations. The patient often may lack any meaningful achievements in his life.
 
2012-04-19 02:37:09 PM
Can you say "Plea Bargain?"
 
2012-04-19 02:37:41 PM
Weaver95: is Zimmerman mentally retarded or something? dude seems too stupid to live.

retarded people don't know they're retarded. it's a defense mechanism.
 
2012-04-19 02:39:58 PM
Weaver95: nothing in the evidence says Martin was doing anything wrong.

Except violently assaulting somebody as is evidenced by an eye witness. Aside from that, Zimmerman calling the police non-emergency number and reporting a suspicious person also indicates that Martin was doing more than just walking home from the store.
 
2012-04-19 02:44:38 PM
9beers: Weaver95: nothing in the evidence says Martin was doing anything wrong.

Except violently assaulting somebody as is evidenced by an eye witness.


except there's no evidence that actually happened.

Aside from that, Zimmerman calling the police non-emergency number and reporting a suspicious person also indicates that Martin was doing more than just walking home from the store.

Again - there is no evidence Martin was breaking any laws. he had no weapons, no drugs, no contraband of any sort.
 
2012-04-19 02:47:22 PM
9beers: Weaver95: nothing in the evidence says Martin was doing anything wrong.

Except violently assaulting somebody as is evidenced by an eye witness. Aside from that, Zimmerman calling the police non-emergency number and reporting a suspicious person also indicates that Martin was doing more than just walking home from the store.


I assume you've been following this case and are aware that he has been charged with second degree murder, right?

Second degree murder means he intentionally gunned the boy down in cold blood without the slightest provocation, let alone while under attack.
 
2012-04-19 02:49:50 PM
Weaver95: except there's no evidence that actually happened.

Yes, there's no evidence of Martin assaulting Zimmerman, except for...

an eyewitness
a police report
paramedics
a video
neighbors who saw Zimmerman in bandages the next day

Keep on derping.
 
2012-04-19 02:52:20 PM
9beers: Weaver95: except there's no evidence that actually happened.

Yes, there's no evidence of Martin assaulting Zimmerman, except for...

an eyewitness [unreliable]
a police report [incorrect]
paramedics [huh?]
a video [again - huh?]
neighbors who saw Zimmerman in bandages the next day [still not evidence of an attack]

Keep on derping.


you're the guy with the derptastic worldview. Zimmerman gunned down that kid in cold blood.
 
2012-04-19 02:52:31 PM
9beers: Weaver95: nothing in the evidence says Martin was doing anything wrong.

Except violently assaulting somebody as is evidenced by an eye witness. Aside from that, Zimmerman calling the police non-emergency number and reporting a suspicious person also indicates that Martin was doing more than just walking home from the store.


Noted. Now please provide evidence that you have anything better to do with your time than troll every Zimmerman thread on Fark. Eyewitnesses are preferred.
 
2012-04-19 02:55:10 PM
9beers: Weaver95: except there's no evidence that actually happened.

Yes, there's no evidence of Martin assaulting Zimmerman, except for...

an eyewitness
a police report
paramedics
a video
neighbors who saw Zimmerman in bandages the next day

Keep on derping.


Then, why is he charged with second degree murder?
 
2012-04-19 02:55:45 PM
djkutch: 9beers: Weaver95: except there's no evidence that actually happened.

Yes, there's no evidence of Martin assaulting Zimmerman, except for...

an eyewitness
a police report
paramedics
a video
neighbors who saw Zimmerman in bandages the next day

Keep on derping.

Then, why is he charged with second degree murder?


socialisms! OMG SO MANY SOCIALISMS.
 
2012-04-19 02:56:53 PM
Weaver95: djkutch: 9beers: Weaver95: except there's no evidence that actually happened.

Yes, there's no evidence of Martin assaulting Zimmerman, except for...

an eyewitness
a police report
paramedics
a video
neighbors who saw Zimmerman in bandages the next day

Keep on derping.

Then, why is he charged with second degree murder?

socialisms! OMG SO MANY SOCIALISMS.


That, or the GED Law School has really been cranking out graduates.
 
2012-04-19 02:59:12 PM
9beers: Weaver95: except there's no evidence that actually happened.

Yes, there's no evidence of Martin assaulting Zimmerman, except for...

an eyewitness
a police report
paramedics
a video
neighbors who saw Zimmerman in bandages the next day

Keep on derping.


yeah. from the looks of him, i don't understand how he could even walk.

Link
 
2012-04-19 02:59:22 PM
djkutch:

That, or the GED Law School has really been cranking out graduates.


the prosecutor evidently believes there's a case there for murder. i'm not familiar with the details of the criminal justice system...I presume this has also passed grand jury muster by this point?
 
2012-04-19 03:02:39 PM
djkutch: Then, why is he charged with second degree murder?

Gee, I can't imagine why.
 
2012-04-19 03:04:23 PM
SpikeStrip: yeah. from the looks of him, i don't understand how he could even walk.

Link



I see that the mob is still going with the grainy video instead of the higher resolution copy that clearly shows wounds to the back of Zimmerman's head and a broken nose.
 
2012-04-19 03:06:58 PM
9beers: Yes, there's no evidence of Martin assaulting Zimmerman, except for...

an eyewitness
a police report
paramedics
a video
neighbors who saw Zimmerman in bandages the next day

Keep on derping.


If Martin attacked, he no doubt was fighting back in self-defense because there was a crazy dude with a gun that kept stalking and harassing him when he was just trying to walk from the store.

I'm not saying Martin was a saint. He wasn't. But he wasn't doing anything wrong and now he's dead.
 
2012-04-19 03:07:47 PM
9beers: SpikeStrip: yeah. from the looks of him, i don't understand how he could even walk.

Link


I see that the mob is still going with the grainy video instead of the higher resolution copy that clearly shows wounds to the back of Zimmerman's head and a broken nose.


at best you could *maybe* make the case that zimmerman might have some injuries to the back of his head (its a bit of a stretch but hey, you're welcome to try). But there is no evidence of a broken nose.
 
2012-04-19 03:10:40 PM
Weaver95: 9beers: SpikeStrip: yeah. from the looks of him, i don't understand how he could even walk.

Link


I see that the mob is still going with the grainy video instead of the higher resolution copy that clearly shows wounds to the back of Zimmerman's head and a broken nose.

at best you could *maybe* make the case that zimmerman might have some injuries to the back of his head (its a bit of a stretch but hey, you're welcome to try). But there is no evidence of a broken nose.


Even if true, the kid had absolutely no right to defend himself from a man with a gun following him.
 
2012-04-19 03:10:50 PM
Weaver95: djkutch:

That, or the GED Law School has really been cranking out graduates.

the prosecutor evidently believes there's a case there for murder. i'm not familiar with the details of the criminal justice system...I presume this has also passed grand jury muster by this point?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_juries_in_the_United_States

grand juries are not required in florida -- but i did hear they were optional if a prosecutor thinks it necessary.

there was no grand jury employed for this case.
 
2012-04-19 03:11:35 PM
Weaver95: at best you could *maybe* make the case that zimmerman might have some injuries to the back of his head (its a bit of a stretch but hey, you're welcome to try). But there is no evidence of a broken nose.

Keep ignoring the evidence, I'd expect nothing less from you.
 
2012-04-19 03:15:40 PM
9beers: SpikeStrip: yeah. from the looks of him, i don't understand how he could even walk.

Link


I see that the mob is still going with the grainy video instead of the higher resolution copy that clearly shows wounds to the back of Zimmerman's head and a broken nose.


That 100% proves that they were caused by Martin.
 
2012-04-19 03:17:04 PM
cameroncrazy1984: That 100% proves that they were caused by Martin.

So you're saying that there was a second attacker in the grassy knoll?
 
2012-04-19 03:17:08 PM
9beers: Weaver95: at best you could *maybe* make the case that zimmerman might have some injuries to the back of his head (its a bit of a stretch but hey, you're welcome to try). But there is no evidence of a broken nose.

Keep ignoring the evidence, I'd expect nothing less from you.


What evidence is there that Martin inflicted any injuries?
 
2012-04-19 03:17:36 PM
popcorn, extra butter please.

hey, has anyone seen 9beers? i can't believe he hasn't posted in this thread, yet.
 
2012-04-19 03:17:47 PM
9beers: cameroncrazy1984: That 100% proves that they were caused by Martin.

So you're saying that there was a second attacker in the grassy knoll?


No, I'm saying that it does not follow that Martin attacked just because Zimmerman has injuries.

You know. Logic.
 
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