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2012-04-19 02:50:40 PM
^I'm not for or against
 
2012-04-19 02:51:44 PM

syberpud: midwestatheist: woo my first greenlit link..

people educate the masses.. vote with your dollars.. dont buy from big business.. buy locally.. your body and the earth will thank you

Yeah because it's impossible for a small time business to be evil.


It's a hell of a lot less likely for a small business, which is usually heavily involved or invested in the community, to do blatantly unethical shiat.
 
2012-04-19 02:55:07 PM

Talondel: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: Because, in theory at least, those people are answerable directly to us. We can hypothetically fire them when they fark up.

Corporations are answerable to their stockholders first, and often only. Without outside oversight, it is much harder to keep a check on their actions.

Well yes in theory you can. Just like in theory a poorly run chicken processor who kills people will go out of business once they kill enough people (a poster above already noted the problem with this 'theory'). In practice you're just as powerless to replace the ineffective regulator as you are to change the ineffective market.

In 'theory' a perfectly efficient market will regulate itself. In 'theory' a perfectly efficient democratic process will also regulate itself. In practice neither of these are true. Yet some people have an inherent distrust of people who are motivated by the imperfect free market, but demonstrate no similar distrust of people who are motivated by the imperfect political process. (Certainly the reverse is also true, some people have an inherent distrust of the flawed political process, and an almost irrational adherence to the flawed market process).

The issue with this thread is that people are confusing the political process and the market process. Subby and the first several posters all clearly see this as a problem (if it is actually a problem, there's no evidence yet that this will or will not effect the safe supply of chicken) with 'markets' when it's not a 'market' problem, it's a 'regulatory' problem. Their inherent distrust of markets has apparently blinded them to the real issue, that this is a regulatory change brought on by regulators, not a market change driven by profits.

This seems to happen regularly of Fark. People view any failure in the economy as a problem of markets driven by 'profits' but often those markets are already regulated by regulators who are accountable only to the political system (e.g. oil and commod ...


Do you seriously not understand regulatory capture?
Because you're posting like that's the case.
 
2012-04-19 02:57:31 PM

stryker4526: syberpud: midwestatheist: woo my first greenlit link..

people educate the masses.. vote with your dollars.. dont buy from big business.. buy locally.. your body and the earth will thank you

Yeah because it's impossible for a small time business to be evil.

It's a hell of a lot less likely for a small business, which is usually heavily involved or invested in the community, to do blatantly unethical shiat.


Funny, I feel the exact opposite.
 
2012-04-19 02:58:16 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com

Nothing ensures safety and fair dealing like honor system regulations. Just ask the robber barons and feudal lords.
 
2012-04-19 03:01:02 PM

midwestatheist: syberpud: midwestatheist: woo my first greenlit link..

people educate the masses.. vote with your dollars.. dont buy from big business.. buy locally.. your body and the earth will thank you

Yeah because it's impossible for a small time business to be evil.

at least i can hold a small business accountable for their actions.. pretty hard to do to a multinational corporation that operates with impunity..


enjoy your pink soylent salmonella

Never said I'm in favor of it - just saying you're judging the morals of a business based on it's size and locality, which isn't the smartest thing to go by.
 
2012-04-19 03:05:00 PM
Bring on the laissez-fairederp, thread.
 
2012-04-19 03:15:50 PM

Talondel: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: Because, in theory at least, those people are answerable directly to us. We can hypothetically fire them when they fark up.

Corporations are answerable to their stockholders first, and often only...
...People view any failure in the economy as a problem of markets driven by 'profits' but often those markets are already regulated by regulators who are accountable only to the political system (e.g. oil and commod ...


I don't think you fully realize how intertwined Big Business and Politics are - you make it sound as if they are two separate and distinct entities. Think again.
 
2012-04-19 03:16:04 PM
Fark this...I am going vegan.

Are you people really going to eat this shiat?
Eat meat from an animal that lives its entire life in 58 square inches?
Eat eggs that are laid by chickens that live their entire lives in 58 square inches?

//count me out.
 
2012-04-19 03:20:20 PM
Self-inspection could work under the right conditions. Here's how. Require the business to properly inspect their product. Without warning, government inspectors will inspect the business (once or twice a year). If they are found to be in gross violation of the food safety laws, the CEO and the manager in charge of the inspection process get a year in jail each.

Add another incentive, too. If an employee reports persistent violations that turn out to be true, that employee gets a million dollars (minimum), paid by the business. He also gets immunity. That way some scmuck on the line who is ordered to pass bad meat or lose his job won't care about his job. Same for the manager who is forced to break the law by the CEO. That's the reason for the immunity.

You have to make the punishment for breaking the law so scary that no business would ever consider doing it. This same concept could work in the oil industry. Sure BP, do your own inspections. We'll trust you. But if you fark up the CEO is going to jail.

/of course this could never happen. People who run giant corporations are never held accountable
 
2012-04-19 03:26:44 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: woo my first greenlit link..

people educate the masses.. vote with your dollars.. dont buy from big business.. buy locally.. your body and the earth will thank you

And where do you work, again?

not the food industry

Not for big business? Just making sure we're not being disingenuous.

pro big business? enjoy your soylent pink salmonella

I'm for or against big business in general. Which is why you won't catch me making statements such as "don't buy from big business."

I'm willing to bet you're a raging hypocrite and you currently own many items from "big business." In fact I'd be willing to bet the device you're using to post messages in this thread were produced by "big business."

Either way, the size of a company has no direct bearing on whether or not that company produces a safe product. But whatever, keep railing against "big business" while simultaneously buying from them and possibly working for them. Hypocrite.


yes you are pro big business.. thats why you are all butthurt about my post and the article.. the pc from a small locally owned business posted this. i dont have to justify anything to you.. until big business puts people before profits i will be anti big business.. i hope you are the first die from eating some of tysons chicken then maybe your existence or lack of existence may be of some importance
 
2012-04-19 03:29:24 PM

Talondel: I do not understand why some people have an inherent mistrust of anyone who is motivated by 'profits' but have no problem trusting people who are instead motivated by politics.



Because Obama says pretty things and makes them feel good about themselves, idiot.
 
2012-04-19 03:35:50 PM

imontheinternet: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 303x320]

Nothing ensures safety and fair dealing like honor system regulations. Just ask the robber barons and feudal lords.


Looks like those days are returning. I guess now that the 99%ers have made their statement the 1% have to make theirs too. They have more money and lobbyists to run more of our social programs into the ground. What would it matter to them? Their chicken is bought directly from a farmer who sells free range chickens and will clean them up or have the maid do it.
 
2012-04-19 03:38:33 PM

CitizenTed: B...b...but if a chicken farm sells bad chicken and kills 4,000 people, then people won't buy from that chicken farm anymore and they'll go out of business and be replaced by a chicken farm that has better chicken. It's the invisible hand of the market, people!

/an invisible hand that slapped 4,000 people into early graves, but an invisible hand nonetheless!


So you're cool with inspections being performed by government officials who have no accountability?
 
2012-04-19 03:41:53 PM

CitizenTed: B...b...but if a chicken farm sells bad chicken and kills 4,000 people, then people won't buy from that chicken farm anymore and they'll go out of business and be replaced by a chicken farm that has better chicken. It's the invisible hand of the market, people!

/an invisible hand that slapped 4,000 people into early graves, but an invisible hand nonetheless!


Killing people with your product distorts your market as some customers will not be able to give you any return business. Tobacco companies anyone?
 
2012-04-19 03:47:19 PM

ScouserDuck: Corvus: Tatsuma: If you were really angry about that Romney 'dog on the roof of the car' thing, but you still don't care where you buy your meat and other animal products, you have to ask yourself a question. If you complain about how horrible it is to tie a dog on top of a car and calling it animal abuse, do you actually care, or are you just trying to score political points?

Because if you really care about this, and you're pretty much not a vegan or extremely careful with what you buy and where you buy it, you are causing far more harm and pain to animals all over the earth on a daily basis, and far worse than traveling on top of car in a crate.

And no, I am not one of those people who thinks that animal life = human life, and that it's wrong to eat them. I do believe however that its wrong to breed them in an industrial setting in a manner that leads to frequent and inhumane pain.

If you truly care about this, and really think that what Romney did is abuse, then please google "animal abuse in the food industry" and start reading about it. You are more than likely to be guilty of much worse every day due to your choices in terms of food. . Change the way you live. Don't buy from companies that participate in animal abuse. Educate others.

This story is a very good example of why these things are necessary.

So then you think cows and chicken are the same as a family pet?

So you think its okay to burn off beaks, cram chickens in uncomfortable cages to never move, and throw all male baby chicks in trashbags in order to suffocate because they have no use for them?


That seems like a waste. Can't they grind the male ones up into goldfish flakes or something?
 
2012-04-19 03:52:48 PM

ringersol: Tatsuma: "Don't buy from companies that participate in animal abuse. Educate others."

I don't have enough hours in the day to keep up with a given company's processes, let alone their changes and additions, let alone to untangle the growing web of consumer products, distributors, marketers and farmers in the first place. To say nothing of the tangle of interests behind various journalists and blogs, so I can't really save time by trusting them to do it.


///This is EXACTLY where the idea of the free market fails. You can't have a free market if the makers of the things you buy hide information from you, or worse still, lie to you. Unfortunately, a VERY common occurrence these days...
 
2012-04-19 03:53:00 PM
Is this where we post about the Jungle, and ignore that it was a work of fiction, and the abuses were largely invented by an author pushing for labor rights, not health inspectors (who already there).
 
2012-04-19 04:04:05 PM

EWreckedSean: Is this where we post about the Jungle, and ignore that it was a work of fiction, and the abuses were largely invented by an author pushing for labor rights, not health inspectors (who already there).


union buster called.. wants its 19th century propaganda back
 
2012-04-19 04:07:21 PM

Spam Pajamas: ScouserDuck: Corvus: Tatsuma: If you were really angry about that Romney 'dog on the roof of the car' thing, but you still don't care where you buy your meat and other animal products, you have to ask yourself a question. If you complain about how horrible it is to tie a dog on top of a car and calling it animal abuse, do you actually care, or are you just trying to score political points?

Because if you really care about this, and you're pretty much not a vegan or extremely careful with what you buy and where you buy it, you are causing far more harm and pain to animals all over the earth on a daily basis, and far worse than traveling on top of car in a crate.

And no, I am not one of those people who thinks that animal life = human life, and that it's wrong to eat them. I do believe however that its wrong to breed them in an industrial setting in a manner that leads to frequent and inhumane pain.

If you truly care about this, and really think that what Romney did is abuse, then please google "animal abuse in the food industry" and start reading about it. You are more than likely to be guilty of much worse every day due to your choices in terms of food. . Change the way you live. Don't buy from companies that participate in animal abuse. Educate others.

This story is a very good example of why these things are necessary.

So then you think cows and chicken are the same as a family pet?

So you think its okay to burn off beaks, cram chickens in uncomfortable cages to never move, and throw all male baby chicks in trashbags in order to suffocate because they have no use for them?

That seems like a waste. Can't they grind the male ones up into goldfish flakes or something?


Actually, some places do throw the baby chicks into a ginder while they're still alive. Their explanition is that it's "more humane than suffocating them alive in the garbage bag."

Personally I find it super sick and absolutely disturbing.
 
2012-04-19 04:16:13 PM

FeFiFoFark: I don't think you fully realize how intertwined Big Business and Politics are - you make it sound as if they are two separate and distinct entities.


You left out Religion.

/The Unholy Triumverate
 
2012-04-19 04:18:48 PM

midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: woo my first greenlit link..

people educate the masses.. vote with your dollars.. dont buy from big business.. buy locally.. your body and the earth will thank you

And where do you work, again?

not the food industry

Not for big business? Just making sure we're not being disingenuous.

pro big business? enjoy your soylent pink salmonella

I'm for or against big business in general. Which is why you won't catch me making statements such as "don't buy from big business."

I'm willing to bet you're a raging hypocrite and you currently own many items from "big business." In fact I'd be willing to bet the device you're using to post messages in this thread were produced by "big business."

Either way, the size of a company has no direct bearing on whether or not that company produces a safe product. But whatever, keep railing against "big business" while simultaneously buying from them and possibly working for them. Hypocrite.

yes you are pro big business.. thats why you are all butthurt about my post and the article.. the pc from a small locally owned business posted this. i dont have to justify anything to you.. until big business puts people before profits i will be anti big business.. i hope you are the first die from eating some of tysons chicken then maybe your existence or lack of existence may be of some importance


You hope I die? Because I have a different opinion of you? Okayyyy.
 
2012-04-19 04:22:51 PM

Do you know the way to Mordor: ringersol: Tatsuma: "Don't buy from companies that participate in animal abuse. Educate others."

I don't have enough hours in the day to keep up with a given company's processes, let alone their changes and additions, let alone to untangle the growing web of consumer products, distributors, marketers and farmers in the first place. To say nothing of the tangle of interests behind various journalists and blogs, so I can't really save time by trusting them to do it.

///This is EXACTLY where the idea of the free market fails. You can't have a free market if the makers of the things you buy hide information from you, or worse still, lie to you. Unfortunately, a VERY common occurrence these days...


Plus, a Free MarketTM requires a completely independent and fair judiciary to prosecute cases of civil and/or criminal fraud, like lying to customers about what they are buying.

If the argument is that regulations are useless because of regulatory capture, how do you avoid the same problem with selective prosecution of or unfair advantages in cases of corporate abuses in a Free MarketTM?
 
2012-04-19 04:31:50 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: woo my first greenlit link..

people educate the masses.. vote with your dollars.. dont buy from big business.. buy locally.. your body and the earth will thank you

And where do you work, again?

not the food industry

Not for big business? Just making sure we're not being disingenuous.

pro big business? enjoy your soylent pink salmonella

I'm for or against big business in general. Which is why you won't catch me making statements such as "don't buy from big business."

I'm willing to bet you're a raging hypocrite and you currently own many items from "big business." In fact I'd be willing to bet the device you're using to post messages in this thread were produced by "big business."

Either way, the size of a company has no direct bearing on whether or not that company produces a safe product. But whatever, keep railing against "big business" while simultaneously buying from them and possibly working for them. Hypocrite.

yes you are pro big business.. thats why you are all butthurt about my post and the article.. the pc from a small locally owned business posted this. i dont have to justify anything to you.. until big business puts people before profits i will be anti big business.. i hope you are the first die from eating some of tysons chicken then maybe your existence or lack of existence may be of some importance

You hope I die? Because I have a different opinion of you? Okayyyy.


people are going to die because of this.. because of greedy jackoffs like you that
thinks its ok for big business to eliminate safety regulations so they can line their pockets.. yes if you died from a bad piece of chicken id be okay with that.. so then we might save some other people that arent greedy jackoffs like you
 
2012-04-19 04:34:12 PM
America's version of capitalism is broken and we are unwilling to:
1. Fix it
or
2. Replace it

/just a thought
//discuss
///slashies!
 
2012-04-19 04:36:00 PM

midwestatheist: EWreckedSean: Is this where we post about the Jungle, and ignore that it was a work of fiction, and the abuses were largely invented by an author pushing for labor rights, not health inspectors (who already there).

union buster called.. wants its 19th century propaganda back


You're in the wrong century....
 
2012-04-19 04:37:40 PM

midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: woo my first greenlit link..

people educate the masses.. vote with your dollars.. dont buy from big business.. buy locally.. your body and the earth will thank you

And where do you work, again?

not the food industry

Not for big business? Just making sure we're not being disingenuous.

pro big business? enjoy your soylent pink salmonella

I'm for or against big business in general. Which is why you won't catch me making statements such as "don't buy from big business."

I'm willing to bet you're a raging hypocrite and you currently own many items from "big business." In fact I'd be willing to bet the device you're using to post messages in this thread were produced by "big business."

Either way, the size of a company has no direct bearing on whether or not that company produces a safe product. But whatever, keep railing against "big business" while simultaneously buying from them and possibly working for them. Hypocrite.

yes you are pro big business.. thats why you are all butthurt about my post and the article.. the pc from a small locally owned business posted this. i dont have to justify anything to you.. until big business puts people before profits i will be anti big business.. i hope you are the first die from eating some of tysons chicken then maybe your existence or lack of existence may be of some importance

You hope I die? Because I have a different opinion of you? Okayyyy.

people are going to die because of this.. because of greedy jackoffs like you that
thinks its ok for big business to eliminate safety regulations so they can line their pockets.. yes if you died from a bad piece of chicken id be okay with that.. so then we might save some other people that arent greedy jackoffs like you


Um... I don't think its ok for safety regulations to be eliminated, especially when it comes to meat production. Nor have I indicated anything of the sort.
 
2012-04-19 04:45:28 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: woo my first greenlit link..

people educate the masses.. vote with your dollars.. dont buy from big business.. buy locally.. your body and the earth will thank you

And where do you work, again?

not the food industry

Not for big business? Just making sure we're not being disingenuous.

pro big business? enjoy your soylent pink salmonella

I'm for or against big business in general. Which is why you won't catch me making statements such as "don't buy from big business."

I'm willing to bet you're a raging hypocrite and you currently own many items from "big business." In fact I'd be willing to bet the device you're using to post messages in this thread were produced by "big business."

Either way, the size of a company has no direct bearing on whether or not that company produces a safe product. But whatever, keep railing against "big business" while simultaneously buying from them and possibly working for them. Hypocrite.

yes you are pro big business.. thats why you are all butthurt about my post and the article.. the pc from a small locally owned business posted this. i dont have to justify anything to you.. until big business puts people before profits i will be anti big business.. i hope you are the first die from eating some of tysons chicken then maybe your existence or lack of existence may be of some importance

You hope I die? Because I have a different opinion of you? Okayyyy.

people are going to die because of this.. because of greedy jackoffs like you that
thinks its ok for big business to eliminate safety regulations so they can line their pockets.. yes if you died from a bad piece of chicken id be okay with that.. so then we might save some other people that arent greedy jackoffs like you

Um... I don't think its ok for safety regul ...


then wtf are calling me out for then? because i said "dont buy from big business"

you were looking for a fight.. you found one and got your ass kicked..

next please
 
2012-04-19 04:51:09 PM

midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: midwestatheist: woo my first greenlit link..

people educate the masses.. vote with your dollars.. dont buy from big business.. buy locally.. your body and the earth will thank you

And where do you work, again?

not the food industry

Not for big business? Just making sure we're not being disingenuous.

pro big business? enjoy your soylent pink salmonella

I'm for or against big business in general. Which is why you won't catch me making statements such as "don't buy from big business."

I'm willing to bet you're a raging hypocrite and you currently own many items from "big business." In fact I'd be willing to bet the device you're using to post messages in this thread were produced by "big business."

Either way, the size of a company has no direct bearing on whether or not that company produces a safe product. But whatever, keep railing against "big business" while simultaneously buying from them and possibly working for them. Hypocrite.

yes you are pro big business.. thats why you are all butthurt about my post and the article.. the pc from a small locally owned business posted this. i dont have to justify anything to you.. until big business puts people before profits i will be anti big business.. i hope you are the first die from eating some of tysons chicken then maybe your existence or lack of existence may be of some importance

You hope I die? Because I have a different opinion of you? Okayyyy.

people are going to die because of this.. because of greedy jackoffs like you that
thinks its ok for big business to eliminate safety regulations so they can line their pockets.. yes if you died from a bad piece of chicken id be okay with that.. so then we might save some other people that arent greedy jackoffs like you

Um... I don't think its ok for safety regul ...

then wtf are calling me out for then? because i said "dont buy from big business"

you were looking for a fight.. you found one and got your ass kicked..

next please


Sincerely, thanks for the lols. Best of luck to you with your future opponents :p
 
2012-04-19 05:02:58 PM
yea and you better do some training.. you need it
 
2012-04-19 05:07:25 PM
Yet another anti-business socialist policy from Obama.
 
2012-04-19 05:10:41 PM
There is no honor among thieves these days.
 
2012-04-19 05:13:12 PM

ScouserDuck: Spam Pajamas: ScouserDuck: Corvus: Tatsuma:So you think its okay to burn off beaks, cram chickens in uncomfortable cages to never move, and throw all male baby chicks in trashbags in order to suffocate because they have no use for them?

That seems like a waste. Can't they grind the male ones up into goldfish flakes or something?

Actually, some places do throw the baby chicks into a ginder while they're still alive. Their explanition is that it's "more humane than suffocating them alive in the garbage bag."

Personally I find it super sick and absolutely disturbing.


I looked that up. So I guess that's how they make chicken mcnuggets? Mmmm...Mcnuggets...

assets.nydailynews.com
 
2012-04-19 05:16:08 PM
Mmmmmmmm... you can taste their innocence!
 
2012-04-19 05:34:22 PM

Spam Pajamas: ScouserDuck: Spam Pajamas: ScouserDuck: Corvus: Tatsuma:So you think its okay to burn off beaks, cram chickens in uncomfortable cages to never move, and throw all male baby chicks in trashbags in order to suffocate because they have no use for them?

That seems like a waste. Can't they grind the male ones up into goldfish flakes or something?

Actually, some places do throw the baby chicks into a ginder while they're still alive. Their explanition is that it's "more humane than suffocating them alive in the garbage bag."

Personally I find it super sick and absolutely disturbing.

I looked that up. So I guess that's how they make chicken mcnuggets? Mmmm...Mcnuggets...

[assets.nydailynews.com image 485x327]


It's more awesome than you could possibly imagine.

mynetimages.com
 
2012-04-19 05:40:59 PM

Spam Pajamas: I looked that up. So I guess that's how they make chicken mcnuggets? Mmmm...Mcnuggets...


Welcome to fark and me being a sissy aside, I can't believe you can post a picture like that and be so cavalier about what's happening.
 
2012-04-19 06:28:00 PM
Umm,
IMHO, the point here is that the existant "regulation" and "inspection" is just so much theatre and a complete waste of time, money and effort.
Skipping it will have no impact.

There are several Jinns that are not willingly going back, Big Chicken is just one.

/too big to regulate is the winning derp
 
2012-04-19 06:35:16 PM

ScouserDuck: Spam Pajamas: I looked that up. So I guess that's how they make chicken mcnuggets? Mmmm...Mcnuggets...

Welcome to fark and me being a sissy aside, I can't believe you can post a picture like that and be so cavalier about what's happening.


Yeah, I know. That was kind of a Welcome to Fark post. Too bad they weren't ducklings. People spend hours rescuing those.

mynorthwest.com
 
2012-04-19 06:54:38 PM
I guess I am shocked. Shocked that people didn't know that this has been the standard in the industry for longer than I can remember.

I think Clinton let Tyson control the state EPA while he was Governer, but hey, that's just the wa they rolled in Arkansas.
 
2012-04-19 07:37:55 PM

Tatsuma: liam76: Well I will amend that, yes as long as it doesn't lead to any health problems when that meat is consumed. Living condiotions like that aren't conducive to healthy chicken, so if they are kept like that they should be labled as such, and extra inspections should take place to make sure th emeat is safe.

see that post alone should convince people that there's no way you're my alt.

I'm way too PETA like in my thinking to ever say something like that, even in jest.


You cheered on the murder of innocents with a picture. nobody gives a shiat about your moral compass anymore.
 
2012-04-19 07:42:17 PM
I've come to terms with the fact that eating animals is inhumane, no matter how you do it. There's nothing "humane" about killing an animal so it can be eaten. There is only one solution: veganism. I'm not there yet and realistically I probably won't ever get there. Somehow I find a way to sleep at night.

If you want to be humane to all animals, stop eating the farking things.
 
2012-04-19 08:13:01 PM

Jument: I've come to terms with the fact that eating animals is inhumane, no matter how you do it. There's nothing "humane" about killing an animal so it can be eaten. There is only one solution: veganism. I'm not there yet and realistically I probably won't ever get there. Somehow I find a way to sleep at night.

If you want to be humane to all animals, stop eating the farking things.


I eat my animals alive, so I can't be blamed for their deaths.
 
2012-04-19 09:35:51 PM

AllUpInYa: I guess the fox is watching the henhouse, now.


img14.imageshack.us

And millions of mentally-challenged right-wing yee-haws are perfectly fine with that.
 
2012-04-19 09:55:00 PM
In 1996, an Odwalla juice drink killed a 16 month old girl, not long after firing their own health inspector for raising alarms about their sanitary practices.
 
2012-04-20 09:15:26 AM

Jument: I've come to terms with the fact that eating animals is inhumane, no matter how you do it. There's nothing "humane" about killing an animal so it can be eaten. There is only one solution: veganism. I'm not there yet and realistically I probably won't ever get there. Somehow I find a way to sleep at night.

If you want to be humane to all animals, stop eating the farking things.


And if you want to help slow AGW, quit breathing.
 
2012-04-20 05:37:54 PM
Treating every business like it's evil is just like treating every american like they're evil.

Tyson's goes well above and beyond the Federally required safety, sanitation, and quality assurance checks with their chickens, because producing a higher quality product is good for business, it ensures repeat customers.

More and more companies are finding that quality products and services are better for business. And yet you blowholes still treat ALL companies as if the Fed doesn't keep on their tail end constantly they'd start putting toxic materials in their products, as if they *want* to hurt people. You're insane.

You don't know anything about how the market works. You don't know anything about how business works. And yet you feel justified and feel qualified to judge them. Well, guess what, you're not qualified.

Yes, there are still a few predatory companies out there, but mostly because the laws on the books, laws made by both Corporatists and Socialists force them to be. If they can't make an honest profit by providing a good product or service at a decent price, then they will make a profit by other means, because companies cannot exist without at least a little profit.

And out economy cannot exist without companies. Our jobs come from companies.

When you punish the Corporations for being successful, you destroy your own ability to get a job.

This is not 1950. Companies have learned that better customer service and better products and higher quality and more responsibility is good business because it creates more loyal customers. And yet you idiots still treat all business like Standard Oil and Trust. Morons.

You're ruining this country, and destroying all the jobs by supporting people who want to destroy business.
 
2012-04-21 01:05:31 AM

jaedreth: Treating every business like it's evil is just like treating every american like they're evil.


Agreed.

The rest of your post was strawman-tastic with a heavy dose of personal insults and no understanding of either the market or, well, facts.
 
2012-04-21 12:33:09 PM

jaedreth: Treating every business like it's evil is just like treating every american like they're evil..


Own naivete, don't just rent it.
 
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