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2012-04-19 10:49:56 AM
Sounds like the Vatican doesn't want to lose their tax status in the US by getting involved in partisan politics*.



*Unless it's against gays or abortions.
 
2012-04-19 10:51:00 AM
So the Vatican is going to show them who wears the frock in this family?
 
2012-04-19 10:52:13 AM
The Church has completely lost the plot.
 
2012-04-19 10:54:28 AM
It was so much simpler back in the days when popes could just rent them out as whores.
 
2012-04-19 10:55:49 AM
One of these days the Vatican will have to come to grips with the reality that millions of American Catholics have stayed with the faith in spite of its leadership, not because of it.
 
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2012-04-19 10:55:56 AM
I guess nuns need to shut their mouths unless they are on their knees. (Just like altar boys).
 
2012-04-19 10:56:39 AM

mitchcumstein1: The Church has completely lost the plot.


Nope. They are completely convinced that their way is right, and thus they have
been backing away from the glacial reforms of Vatican II.

BXVI started the trend when he was JPII's right hand, and under his stewardship
the church will continue its hard-line enforcement of doctrine.
 
2012-04-19 10:59:37 AM

DjangoStonereaver: mitchcumstein1: The Church has completely lost the plot.

Nope. They are completely convinced that their way is right, and thus they have
been backing away from the glacial reforms of Vatican II.

BXVI started the trend when he was JPII's right hand, and under his stewardship
the church will continue its hard-line enforcement of doctrine.


Which is the long way of saying they've completely lost the plot.
 
2012-04-19 11:00:01 AM
You know what is really driving people away from the church though? Prayers that don't have the right nuance in the translation.
 
2012-04-19 11:01:10 AM
*sigh* from the other thread:

ginandbacon: These women are real heroines and the best example of Catholicism in the world today. They joined their orders because they felt a need to serve their brothers and sisters in the real world. They are they one who minister to the infirm. They are the ones who minister to the poor. They are the ones who care for orphans and the aged.

Of course, Ratzi thinks they are evil.

I have a great deal of respect for these women and their monk counterparts who give up everything I could not to live a life of service. I have zero respect for the greedy men who devalue that work from atop piles of gold and hatred.

 
2012-04-19 11:03:49 AM
I don't see the problem.

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2012-04-19 11:07:25 AM

unlikely: You know what is really driving people away from the church though? Prayers that don't have the right nuance in the translation.


Also that we don't have enough God in our government. That's the problem here.
 
2012-04-19 11:11:55 AM

mitchcumstein1: DjangoStonereaver: mitchcumstein1: The Church has completely lost the plot.

Nope. They are completely convinced that their way is right, and thus they have
been backing away from the glacial reforms of Vatican II.

BXVI started the trend when he was JPII's right hand, and under his stewardship
the church will continue its hard-line enforcement of doctrine.

Which is the long way of saying they've completely lost the plot.


It depends on whose plot you're talking about. From the point of view of the
staunchly conservative Church hierarchy, they are trying to enforce complete
unquestioning adherence to Church doctrine at all levels. The Vatican has
even taken to micromanaging liturgical policies at the parish level, bypassing
the local bishops on occasion when they've gotten reports of local priests
trying to get creative.

Although I do truly believe they want to help the poor and downtrodden, they
think that the only way they can is to adhere to Church doctrine and quash
any dissent (or perceived dissent). It never occurs to them that maybe its the
doctrines that need to be re-examined. After all: they worked well in the 6th
century? Why mess with success?
 
2012-04-19 11:12:46 AM

DjangoStonereaver: It depends on whose plot you're talking about.


Jesus Christ's.
 
2012-04-19 11:27:23 AM

mitchcumstein1: DjangoStonereaver: It depends on whose plot you're talking about.

Jesus Christ's.


Church doctrine, alas, has little to do with his teachings.

Why do you think they tried to supress the first popular printings of the bible in
the common languages?
 
2012-04-19 11:27:44 AM
Time for a stampede.
 
2012-04-19 11:34:37 AM

I_Am_Weasel: Time for a stampede.


Kinky.
 
2012-04-19 11:49:09 AM

GAT_00: Also that we don't have enough God in our government. That's the problem here.


Exactly.
You can't spell "godverment" without G-o-d.
 
2012-04-19 11:51:29 AM

DjangoStonereaver: Why do you think they tried to supress the first popular printings of the bible in
the common languages?


They wanted me to have to take two years of Latin in high school 500 years later?

Bastards.
 
2012-04-19 11:59:30 AM

GAT_00: unlikely: You know what is really driving people away from the church though? Prayers that don't have the right nuance in the translation.

Also that we don't have enough God in our government. That's the problem here.


You really don't know too many Catholics, do you?
 
2012-04-19 12:54:28 PM

Nabb1: GAT_00: unlikely: You know what is really driving people away from the church though? Prayers that don't have the right nuance in the translation.

Also that we don't have enough God in our government. That's the problem here.

You really don't know too many Catholics, do you?


I think they were making a little joke.
sarcasm in print is very hard to detect.
 
2012-04-19 12:57:59 PM
Well, as long as they have their priorities straight. I mean, gthey need someone to fetch the wine and crackers when they're entertaining young boys.
 
2012-04-19 01:08:42 PM
The New York Times is a little clearer on how this relates to Obamacare:

The sisters were also reprimanded for making public statements that "disagree with or challenge the bishops, who are the church's authentic teachers of faith and morals." During the debate over the health care overhaul in 2010, American bishops came out in opposition to the health plan, but dozens of sisters, many of whom belong to the Leadership Conference, signed a statement supporting it - support that provided crucial cover for the Obama administration in the battle over health care.

Are you farking kidding me? The nuns were reprimanded because they took the opposite political position as the bishops? Why the fark are bishops taking political positions to begin with? And they frame themselves as "authentic teachers of faith and morals" as if their political views are somehow superior? Call the IRS and tax the kiddie farkers.
 
2012-04-19 01:34:50 PM

Lumpmoose: Why the fark are bishops taking political positions to begin with?


You may want to familiarize yourself with the history of the Catholic church. They've always been political.
 
2012-04-19 01:34:57 PM
Oh, it's this thread again.

/new daily thread?
 
2012-04-19 01:35:49 PM

Yomoxu: Oh, it's this thread again.

/new daily thread?


We should get a Catholic Church tag. As long as they keep doing stupid things, they will keep being Fark threads.
 
2012-04-19 01:41:16 PM
I think they're pretty consistent on the problem being with the teachers and not the morality. Even the pope is fallible.
 
2012-04-19 01:42:14 PM

toraque: Lumpmoose: Why the fark are bishops taking political positions to begin with?

You may want to familiarize yourself with the history of the Catholic church. They've always been political.


No one expects the Roman Inquisition.
 
2012-04-19 01:46:00 PM

Nabb1: One of these days the Vatican will have to come to grips with the reality that millions of American Catholics have stayed with the faith in spite of its leadership, not because of it.


Probably just as many have left the church. Like me and my wife for instance. Both raised staunchly catholic. We could swallow the institutionalized misogyny and dogma. But the systematic enabling and covering-up of kid-touchers is revolting on a level that not many other things approach.

Still have the Catholic Guilt though. Being told you're a naughty child and are going to hell from day one can fark you up. Dammit.

/[feels guilty]
 
2012-04-19 01:47:42 PM
They saw how well the War on Women was working out for the GOP...
 
2012-04-19 01:47:57 PM

Pontious Pilates: Nabb1: One of these days the Vatican will have to come to grips with the reality that millions of American Catholics have stayed with the faith in spite of its leadership, not because of it.

Probably just as many have left the church. Like me and my wife for instance. Both raised staunchly catholic. We could swallow the institutionalized misogyny and dogma. But the systematic enabling and covering-up of kid-touchers is revolting on a level that not many other things approach.

Still have the Catholic Guilt though. Being told you're a naughty child and are going to hell from day one can fark you up. Dammit.

/[feels guilty]


Good for you. I just wish more people like you would stand up against the Catholic leadership for what they've done, and are doing.
 
2012-04-19 01:48:33 PM

GAT_00: unlikely: You know what is really driving people away from the church though? Prayers that don't have the right nuance in the translation.

Also that we don't have enough God in our government. That's the problem here.


That, and they took prayer out of school.

/and the devil just came right in
//with his rock and roll music and his dancing
 
2012-04-19 01:48:48 PM
the vatican is an abomination all the way from the pope down- false idol worship, penence, saying hail mary it is all evil!
 
2012-04-19 01:51:02 PM
Without significant reform, in 100 years there will be no Catholic Church.
 
2012-04-19 01:51:29 PM

DjangoStonereaver: mitchcumstein1: The Church has completely lost the plot.

Nope. They are completely convinced that their way is right, and thus they have
been backing away from the glacial reforms of Vatican II.

BXVI started the trend when he was JPII's right hand, and under his stewardship
the church will continue its hard-line enforcement of doctrine.




The current Pope is the individual who directly supervised and controlled the public spin machine and the coverup of the Irish laundry, Canadian and Australian native school and pedophile priest scandals that broke during the 1990s and early 2000's. He was very much the man in charge of transferring the rapists from diocese to diocese and hiding them from the law. He was directly in command as John Paul 2nd's right-hand man. He knew full well what was going on, and took a commanding position to help protect the criminals. Thats why he is the Pope.

He announced the end of the Vatican II reforms of the 1950's and 60's at the start of his reign. You folks haven't seen nothin yet. The Church is going to try to flex what muscle it has, and it is very, very rich.

Makes one wonder what Santorum was really up to, and who he was working for.
 
2012-04-19 01:51:38 PM
The pope himself went on to say "Those nuns can't even lure a decent boy into my lair to save their lives! Have you seen the boys they bring to me? They already have pubic hair! That's DISGUSTING!"
 
2012-04-19 01:51:53 PM

Rent Party: Without significant reform, in 100 years there will be no Catholic Church.


You say that like it's a bad thing.
 
2012-04-19 01:54:01 PM
Let's see if I get this: the right to discriminate in marriage and health care is a "free speech" right claimed by the Catholic Church?

But free speech by nuns brings on an Inquisition?
 
2012-04-19 01:54:19 PM

Deathfrogg: DjangoStonereaver: mitchcumstein1: The Church has completely lost the plot.

Nope. They are completely convinced that their way is right, and thus they have
been backing away from the glacial reforms of Vatican II.

BXVI started the trend when he was JPII's right hand, and under his stewardship
the church will continue its hard-line enforcement of doctrine.



The current Pope is the individual who directly supervised and controlled the public spin machine and the coverup of the Irish laundry, Canadian and Australian native school and pedophile priest scandals that broke during the 1990s and early 2000's. He was very much the man in charge of transferring the rapists from diocese to diocese and hiding them from the law. He was directly in command as John Paul 2nd's right-hand man. He knew full well what was going on, and took a commanding position to help protect the criminals. Thats why he is the Pope.

He announced the end of the Vatican II reforms of the 1950's and 60's at the start of his reign. You folks haven't seen nothin yet. The Church is going to try to flex what muscle it has, and it is very, very rich.

Makes one wonder what Santorum was really up to, and who he was working for.


The true Sith?
 
2012-04-19 01:54:42 PM
Vatican officials also castigated the group for making some public statements that "disagree with or challenge positions taken by the bishops", who are the church's "authentic teachers of faith and morals."

Authentic Teachers of Faith and Morals = MEN
 
2012-04-19 01:56:56 PM
I kind of heard this on the radio this morning and thought, Oh I know what the green light Catholic thread on Fark will be, but how they will they work in a Child molestation angle today?

Clever and original.

Snoooze.
 
2012-04-19 01:58:11 PM

halfof33: Snoooze.


You can only be so relaxed because you're not a 13 year old boy.
 
2012-04-19 01:58:25 PM

stpauler: Sounds like the Vatican doesn't want to lose their tax status in the US by getting involved in partisan politics*.



*Unless it's against gays or abortions.


That's an extremely misunderstood rule. Yo can support politcal CAUSES all you want, what you may not do is urge the election or defeat of a particulr CANDIDATE for office.

That said (and I say this as an RC born, bred, and educated) Fark the Vatican on this move fark them long and hard. I've more or less known this was coming fo rthe last two years because I know some (lay) people deeply and personally involved on this. The way theytreated the nuns involved in this has been extremely shameful, grilling them like criminal suspects (a tactic they never used on thier pedophile bretheren), and generally showing thier contempt ofr women religious and women in general. This particular Pope has been pushing crap like this since back when he was "Joey Ratso" the head of the modern day inquisition.(Literally). He really hates the reforms of Vatican II and if he had his way he'd turn the clock back as far as it he could.
 
2012-04-19 01:58:50 PM
It's odd to see the word feminist used to descibe actual feminists.
 
2012-04-19 01:59:09 PM
Thou shalt not have independent thoughts.
 
2012-04-19 01:59:18 PM

Rent Party: Without significant reform, in 100 years there will be no Catholic Church.


I wish that were true. However, even if the church is in decline in North America and Europe, it's still very powerful in other parts of the world - particularly Latin America, where it's supporting anti-abortion legislation so harsh it does not allow exceptions even when the woman's life is in danger.
 
2012-04-19 01:59:45 PM
FTFA The investigation also found that the group has been "silent on the right to life from conception to natural death, a question that is part of the lively public debate about abortion and euthanasia in the United States".

It almost sounds like they're for a single-payer plan.
 
2012-04-19 02:00:07 PM

stpauler: Unless it's against gays or abortions.


It seems the problem in the Catholic Church is gay pedophiles.
I don't know why that type is attracted to that church, but there it is.
It's almost as bad as teachers, but most of those are hetero pedophiles.
 
2012-04-19 02:01:14 PM

BurnShrike: halfof33: Snoooze.

You can only be so relaxed because you're not a 13 year old boy.


Oh Look, Burn Shrike.

In an anti-Catholic thread on Fark?

My word, will wonders never cease?
 
2012-04-19 02:01:31 PM

fredsnake: the vatican is an abomination all the way from the pope down- false idol worship, penence, saying hail mary it is all evil!


But the greed, corruption and complicity with horrific crimes are A-OK!
 
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