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(MSNBC)   Unlike Best Korea, India is able to keep it up and perform. Bonus: they call it the "China Killer"   (worldnews.msnbc.msn.com) divider line 77
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2012-04-19 11:44:58 AM  

Mog32Kupo: If India and China went to war, would America step in?

And if so, for who?


Doubtful, which is one big reason I think India is so adamant about being able to hurt China. They realize we don't have their back. And China knows we won't actually fight on their behalf against India.
 
2012-04-19 11:48:44 AM  

nekom: Bacontastesgood: I wonder if there will finally be some real light shed on the extremely questionable 1998 Pokhran II tests. Supposedly 5 nuclear test devices were set off, three simultaneously and then two simultaneously a couple days later, and every one was a complete success. This never made any sense. It takes a lot of time and money and secrecy to build these, and you'd like the explosions to be absolutely independent so you can see how each one worked (they were various designs, different mechanisms even different isotopes). They knew the tests would be detected, and it wasn't one shot, so why not test each independently? Either they staggered the tests and all but two failed, or they actually wanted bigger blasts than they could get with one weapon, and again most of them failed. "Failed" could mean detonated but way low yield like 0.2kT. What they claim is that several of the bombs were designed to have such low yield. Bullshiat.

Anyway, it was always obvious that the thing was way political, and I don't blame the Indians for doing that but I do blame the scientific press for being dupes and just reporting it straight up.

Oh yeah, two weeks later Pakistan magically detonated 5 devices simultaneously, thereby showing their greater capability at bullshiatting the world. Note that I am not suggesting either of these countries didn't have nuclear explosions - they did, according to seismic records worldwide. What's silly is that they claim 100% success when it was probably more like 20-40%. Which is still greater than Best Korea or the Arabic nations.

Meanwhile Isreal has clearly had nuclear weapons for ages, and doesn't brag about it or even admit it.

That's interesting, I never really looked into the specifics of their tests. That certainly makes no sense whatsoever.


You should look into early american nuclear testing. I'm pretty sure right before we started doing tritium boosting we were using simultaneous, multi-device detonation to increase effective yield. About as clear as I could understand it, you put two nukes a little ways apart and then each device's explosion pushes the other's away, increasing effective yield of both devices.

/not a nuclear scientist, but I did watch a documentary on US nuclear testing yesterday
 
2012-04-19 11:49:07 AM  
Did anyone notice it can reach Madagascar?

/so much for my Plan A
 
2012-04-19 11:50:11 AM  
Please god, let there be a protracted, brutal, mostly infantry based trench war between India and China. It is the best thing that could happen to the US, and possibly to humanity in general. Two of the most fundamentally toxic cultures in history working as hard as they can to try and wipe each other out.

Selling weapons and supplies to both sides will bolster western economies to previously before un-dreamed of heights.
 
2012-04-19 11:53:22 AM  

Unimpressed Man: You should look into early american nuclear testing. I'm pretty sure right before we started doing tritium boosting we were using simultaneous, multi-device detonation to increase effective yield. About as clear as I could understand it, you put two nukes a little ways apart and then each device's explosion pushes the other's away, increasing effective yield of both devices.

/not a nuclear scientist, but I did watch a documentary on US nuclear testing yesterday


Really? I'm not a nuclear scientist either but I have watched Trinity: The Atomic Bomb Movie and don't recall seeing anything like that.

One thing I did find neat that my dad told me (he used to be USAF MP, guarded planes with nukes) is that they actually had bombs where you could dial the yield you wanted. I guess by timing the explosion differently they could change the yield. I always thought that was neat.
 
2012-04-19 12:00:14 PM  

Unimpressed Man: You should look into early american nuclear testing. I'm pretty sure right before we started doing tritium boosting we were using simultaneous, multi-device detonation to increase eff ...


although our first three tests were spectacularly successful without using tricks to boost the effective yield, just ask the Japanese.
 
2012-04-19 12:02:14 PM  
FTA "intercontinental nuclear defense capabilities."

ICBM's are never defensive.

Article is full of double speach.
 
2012-04-19 12:08:26 PM  
Whahappen to the hottie Indian babe? Priya something. Whar hottie samosa pics go?
 
2012-04-19 12:19:41 PM  
Over half the children in India are malnourished, and there is more starvation and hunger in India than in all of Sub-Saharan Africa. Yet India spends billions on their military. Seems like they have their priorities straight.
 
2012-04-19 12:35:55 PM  
India has a much higher percentage of malnourishment than even North Korea. What is it with countries spending money on weapons while their people literally starve to death?
 
2012-04-19 12:40:56 PM  
"Harsh Pant".

Yep. That's about it.
 
2012-04-19 12:42:05 PM  

JesusJuice: The US has the power and the prerogative to keep these weapons from our enemies, and therefore the right


It's like there's some sort of project for a new American century here...
 
2012-04-19 12:51:12 PM  

syberpud: True, but radical Islamic groups tend not to like the Hindu majority in India. Pakistan and China might not have much in common, but at least don't shoot at each other over a disputed border like India and Pakistan.


China and Pakistan have a close relationship already, so I suspect a Indo-Pakistani alliance against China is fairly unlikely.
 
2012-04-19 12:53:32 PM  

satorivt: It will only take one man to defeat the whole Indian Army. You march a guy to the front line holding a gun to the head of a cow and they will all surrender, and then later you can have a BBQ with some steak.


I'm sure that took your entire brain's capacity to come up with. (0/10)
 
2012-04-19 12:55:18 PM  
If China decides it wants to destroy it's economy and declare war on neighboring nations, here is lineup:

China, Best Korea.

US, Other Korea, India, EU, Canada, Australia.
 
2012-04-19 01:11:19 PM  

RembrandtQEinstein: Two of the most fundamentally toxic cultures in history


Um, no.
 
2012-04-19 02:04:08 PM  
Never get involved in a land war in Asia was strangley absent from the article.

/nuclear war should also be discouraged.
 
2012-04-19 02:13:14 PM  
Unlimited information on the internet and some of you sprout the "I was told that..." "My guess is that..." "I watched on TV that..."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon_design
 
2012-04-19 02:15:36 PM  
Both sides (China and India) Have a similar problem which is about 20 million extra males. What is an activity that young men between the ages of 18 and 30 could all get together and do as a group in a nice conscripted fashion that would solve both of these countries population issues.
 
2012-04-19 02:31:23 PM  

technocrat: Both sides (China and India) Have a similar problem which is about 20 million extra males. What is an activity that young men between the ages of 18 and 30 could all get together and do as a group in a nice conscripted fashion that would solve both of these countries population issues.


...Is it Bingo? It's not Bingo, is it?
 
2012-04-19 02:57:24 PM  

jshine: I'm not saying that no country has ever given up nuclear weapons, but I would say that no country has been successfully *compelled* to do so in the face of outside pressure, in a situation where it felt it might one day need its weapons.


Ukraine?
 
2012-04-19 04:16:27 PM  
Nothing has ever happened in Ukraine that might make its citizens skeptical of anything involving radiation...

Nothing.

Ever.
 
2012-04-19 04:42:58 PM  
I can't seem to face up to the facts
I ate some curry and I
Can't relax
I can't sleep 'cause my butt's on fire
Don't touch me I'm a real live wire

China Killer
Qu'est-ce que c'est
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far better
Run run run run run run run away
China Killer
Qu'est-ce que c'est
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far better
Run run run run run run run away
 
2012-04-19 05:55:05 PM  

ihatedumbpeople: geek_mars: Well, according to the article the Indian missile won't be fully ready for another two years. China has missiles capable of reaching India today. So, antagonizing China by calling it the "China Killer" could be seen as a dumbass move.

/just playing devil's advocate.
//really reaching on this one, though.

I assume subby was implying it's not a great idea to annoy a giant Communist country capable of wiping you out today by demonstrating a missile called the "china killer" that isn't even ready yet.



Yeah, that was my take as well.
 
2012-04-19 06:33:56 PM  

technocrat: Both sides (China and India) Have a similar problem which is about 20 million extra males. What is an activity that young men between the ages of 18 and 30 could all get together and do as a group in a nice conscripted fashion that would solve both of these countries population issues.


Move to the US maybe? Indian-Americans in the US have a higher average income than whites. Also, Indian-Americans are about 1% of the population in the US but are in 7% of the doctor/surgeon jobs, 3% of the engineering jobs, and 9% of IT positions. Emigration would be the easiest way to reduce an excess male population.

I don't think your brilliant analysis is taking into account the modern global landscape... just saying...
 
2012-04-20 12:08:28 AM  
"The West chooses to overlook India's disregard of nuclear and missile control treaties,'' China

agreed
 
2012-04-20 02:15:57 AM  

RembrandtQEinstein: Please god, let there be a protracted, brutal, mostly infantry based trench war between India and China. It is the best thing that could happen to the US, and possibly to humanity in general. Two of the most fundamentally toxic cultures in history working as hard as they can to try and wipe each other out.

Selling weapons and supplies to both sides will bolster western economies to previously before un-dreamed of heights.


As much as I don't want to, I have to agree.
 
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