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2012-04-19 08:37:39 AM
i.i.com.com

Apparently, some people sign up for this already.....
 
2012-04-19 08:39:41 AM
So remove it. Problem solved.
 
2012-04-19 08:42:40 AM
I was told that Democrats only wanted to increase civil rights, but since its a major Dem behind this, well now we can put that bullshiat to bed
 
2012-04-19 08:48:28 AM
Quiet citizen! Do as you are told!

The best part is that you will be voluntarily paying for this (and possibly consenting to the surveillance) when you buy your new vehicle!
 
2012-04-19 08:50:22 AM
Starting in 2015 your car will record every action you take until immediately after I get it home.
 
2012-04-19 08:50:29 AM
You know, I kinda like the idea of tax cheats and pedophiles not being able to flee the country.

But WTF does that have to do with tracking devices in cars? But you know, in some ways I'm kinda glad there is the stuff about banking too, because that means the GOP will finally be useful and block this shiat.
 
2012-04-19 08:54:12 AM

nekom: So remove it. Problem solved.


And it 2018, after Congress perceives this to be a problem, it will become illegal to tamper with it, or it will be required to be integrated so tightly that you can't remove it without disabling the vehicle.

For your safety, of course.
 
2012-04-19 08:54:27 AM
If that bothers you, you might want to think about that GPS locator you carry with you every day
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-04-19 08:55:03 AM
"Black boxes" are not the same as GPS trackers.

I would like to have every government car equipped with a tracker, with the tracks being public records.
 
2012-04-19 08:57:35 AM

Aarontology: You know, I kinda like the idea of tax cheats and pedophiles not being able to flee the country.


Didn't you read the article? In the case of the 'tax cheats', it's administrative: There is no due process involved. The person getting their passport revoked doesn't get a chance to go before a judge, and give their side of the story. Essentially, it's by governmental fiat.
 
2012-04-19 08:58:21 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: If that bothers you, you might want to think about that GPS locator you carry with you every day


I don't carry one. I refuse to carry a cellphone.
 
2012-04-19 09:01:54 AM

cman: I was told that Democrats only wanted to increase civil rights, but since its a major Dem behind this, well now we can put that bullshiat to bed


Oh, trampling rights in the name of security knows no ideological bounds. I don't think you ever have or will get much argument on that front.
 
2012-04-19 09:02:47 AM

dittybopper: Aarontology: You know, I kinda like the idea of tax cheats and pedophiles not being able to flee the country.

Didn't you read the article? In the case of the 'tax cheats', it's administrative: There is no due process involved. The person getting their passport revoked doesn't get a chance to go before a judge, and give their side of the story. Essentially, it's by governmental fiat.


That part is bothersome, yes. Especially given that the pedophiles go before a judge.

But In theory, I support the idea.
 
2012-04-19 09:07:06 AM

dittybopper: And it 2018, after Congress perceives this to be a problem, it will become illegal to tamper with it, or it will be required to be integrated so tightly that you can't remove it without disabling the vehicle.


And on Jan 2nd, all of the mechanics who install buttons to shut off your odometer (for a leased car of course) will branch out to defeat these things too.
 
2012-04-19 09:09:35 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: If that bothers you, you might want to think about that GPS locator you carry with you every day


When my phone was stolen it was zero use catching the criminals, same for every single story of a stolen phone I've ever heard, so if anyone ever tells you they're worried about GPS in their phones being used to track them... tell them they are very silly indeed and should rethink their position.
 
2012-04-19 09:11:43 AM

Slaxl: MaudlinMutantMollusk: If that bothers you, you might want to think about that GPS locator you carry with you every day

When my phone was stolen it was zero use catching the criminals, same for every single story of a stolen phone I've ever heard, so if anyone ever tells you they're worried about GPS in their phones being used to track them... tell them they are very silly indeed and should rethink their position.


Police have real crimes to deal with, like catching murderers or locking up a third grader for having a joint on his possession. A stolen cell phone is low-priority for them.
 
2012-04-19 09:53:17 AM
Will it record how often I listen and sing along to that Call Me Maybe song? Because I really don't want that sort of thing getting out.

/wait...
 
2012-04-19 10:14:28 AM
The mandatory thing isn't anything new.

Many cars already have said devices, but they don't record and retain everything.
 
2012-04-19 10:30:18 AM

Slaxl: MaudlinMutantMollusk: If that bothers you, you might want to think about that GPS locator you carry with you every day

When my phone was stolen it was zero use catching the criminals, same for every single story of a stolen phone I've ever heard, so if anyone ever tells you they're worried about GPS in their phones being used to track them... tell them they are very silly indeed and should rethink their position.


And they can use the GPS to figure out exactly what their position is :-P

/I have heard of it being used before, though. I don't think the stories are entirely unfounded
 
2012-04-19 11:14:59 AM
Here in my car
I feel safest of all
I can lock all my doors
It's the only way to live in cars.
Here in my car
I can only receive
I can listen to you
It keeps me stable for days in cars.
 
2012-04-19 11:15:17 AM
img.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-19 11:16:57 AM
Just remember a tenet of Anton Scalia: the Founding Fathers didn't put a privacy right in the Constitution. And they were wise enough to foresee the Internet and GPS technologies.
 
2012-04-19 11:17:26 AM
The 5th amendment should apply here. If not now, then maybe when a senator goes driving drunk with a male intern in his trunk.
 
2012-04-19 11:17:28 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-04-19 11:18:52 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: If that bothers you, you might want to think about that GPS locator you carry with you every day


no worries, that's what the tin foil hat is for
 
2012-04-19 11:19:02 AM
guess I'll need to buy a new car sometime in 2014 and then drive it until I die then.
 
2012-04-19 11:19:05 AM
So, when are the liberals going to start demanding their guns back?
 
2012-04-19 11:19:35 AM
By comparison, even pedophiles go in front of a judge before losing their passports.

Well, there go my plans for a trip to Indonesia.

/Bangkok
 
2012-04-19 11:19:55 AM
Stop voting for them. Vote Libertarian at every opportunity.
 
2012-04-19 11:19:59 AM
Well I feel safer now. I predict no good will come of this at all.
 
2012-04-19 11:21:11 AM
You suckers who insist on a new car every couple of years are about to start reaping yet another reward from your consumerist lifestyle.

I'll stick with my early-80's diesel Mercedes, thankyouverymuch. Gonna be pretty tough for them to track my movements in one of those.
 
2012-04-19 11:21:35 AM
Every step you take
And every move you make
Every time your brake
Every turn you take
I'll be watching you.
 
2012-04-19 11:22:16 AM

Trackball: So, when are the liberals going to start demanding their guns back?


As soon as they are biometrically locked unless held by the owner and have micro imprinted serial numbers on each bullet. Additionally, they can't have shoulder things that go up, bayonet lugs or black plastic furniture.

/snark
 
2012-04-19 11:22:29 AM

Trackball: So, when are the liberals going to start demanding their guns back?


Have all the guns you want. If the gub-mint's coming for you, it won't matter. They'll take away your money, your power, your telecom, accuse you of child molestation and kiddy porn to make your friends and neighbors revile you then wait you out and isolate you before hitting you with more law enforcement than you can handle with bigger and better weapons than you'll ever even see.

If you're in Texas, they'll brun you to the ground, if you're in Philly they'll just blow up the whole block. Keep your little peashooters, they won't help.
 
2012-04-19 11:23:20 AM
Drive an '86 land cruiser and would rather rebuild it than buy a new car.

/come track me bro...
 
2012-04-19 11:23:45 AM
Police will know every move you make
 
2012-04-19 11:24:04 AM
Down in his barn,
My uncle preserved for me an old machine,
For fifty-odd years.
To keep it as new has been his dearest dream.

I strip away the old debris
That hides a shining car.
A brilliant Red Barchetta
From a better, vanished time.
I fire up the willing engine,
Responding with a roar.
Tires spitting gravel,
I commit my weekly crime...
 
2012-04-19 11:24:36 AM

EatHam: Starting in 2015 your car will record every action you take until immediately after I get it home.


Not enough privacy violations for you?
 
2012-04-19 11:24:38 AM

lenfromak: Stop voting for them. Vote Libertarian at every opportunity.


I prefer the Monty Brewster approach: None of the Above
 
2012-04-19 11:24:42 AM
Once again 1995 Crown Victoria and 1983F100 FTW.
 
2012-04-19 11:25:13 AM

dittybopper: MaudlinMutantMollusk: If that bothers you, you might want to think about that GPS locator you carry with you every day

I don't carry one. I refuse to carry a cellphone.


Go ahead, now tell us about how you don't own a television. Bonus points for "boob tube" or "idiot box"
 
2012-04-19 11:25:14 AM
By then, we'll open up trade to Cuba, and have all those classic 50's cars on the market.
 
2012-04-19 11:25:26 AM
They won't be tracking my motorbike.
 
2012-04-19 11:26:07 AM

myrrh: You suckers who insist on a new car every couple of years are about to start reaping yet another reward from your consumerist lifestyle.

I'll stick with my early-80's diesel Mercedes, thankyouverymuch. Gonna be pretty tough for them to track my movements in one of those.


Yeah, because it's either broken down, or it leaves a huge smoke trail behind it.

/kidding, sort of
 
2012-04-19 11:26:39 AM

myrrh: You suckers who insist on a new car every couple of years are about to start reaping yet another reward from your consumerist lifestyle.

I'll stick with my early-80's diesel Mercedes, thankyouverymuch. Gonna be pretty tough for them to track my movements in one of those.


How about by following the cloud of blue smoke?
 
2012-04-19 11:26:57 AM
No new car in my future. Looks like I'll just be spending money on repair and maintenance for a while longer.
 
2012-04-19 11:26:59 AM

pxlboy: dittybopper: MaudlinMutantMollusk: If that bothers you, you might want to think about that GPS locator you carry with you every day

I don't carry one. I refuse to carry a cellphone.

Go ahead, now tell us about how you don't own a television. Bonus points for "boob tube" or "idiot box"


This looks shopped. I can tell by the pxls.
 
2012-04-19 11:27:46 AM

Snarfangel: pxlboy: dittybopper: MaudlinMutantMollusk: If that bothers you, you might want to think about that GPS locator you carry with you every day

I don't carry one. I refuse to carry a cellphone.

Go ahead, now tell us about how you don't own a television. Bonus points for "boob tube" or "idiot box"

This looks shopped. I can tell by the pxls.


What you did there, I see it.
 
2012-04-19 11:28:25 AM

Aarontology: You know, I kinda like the idea of tax cheats and pedophiles not being able to flee the country.


I wouldn't mind it either, if it were subject to due process of law: warrants, courts, reasonable doubt, and all that. Problem is, as others have pointed out, this law doesn't do that.

But WTF does that have to do with tracking devices in cars? But you know, in some ways I'm kinda glad there is the stuff about banking too, because that means the GOP will finally be useful and block this shiat.

I'm wondering if Subby submitted the wrong URL by mistake.
 
2012-04-19 11:28:28 AM
Oh boohoo about the passport revocation. It doesn't violate anyone's right. No one has a right to a passport. You don't need it to travel within the country and it's up to foreign country whether to accept you without one. Nor is there some right to return to this country after you have left. I've never seen it mentioned in the constitution that a citizen or resident must be allowed to return back to the country. I think its farked up, but legal.
 
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