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(Yahoo)   Looking for a vacation destination sure to provoke awkward silences from you and uncomfortable questions from your kids? The be sure to visit Michigan's newest attraction: The Jim Crow Museum of Racist Memorabilia   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 98
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2012-04-19 09:26:33 AM
Oh lawdy.
 
2012-04-19 09:27:07 AM
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2012-04-19 09:29:25 AM
When Grandma dies I'll be getting the first edition Little Black Sambo and cast iron "mammy" doorstop of hers. I'll also be getting the Nazi flag Pa brought back from the War.
 
2012-04-19 09:30:47 AM
A traveling exhibit from this museum came to my university last year; Some truly disturbing exhibits. It was amazing how recent some of the objects were created. The most recent things were from the 21st century. It would be nice to think that, in an age where we have an African American president, racism would be on the decline. Of course one visit to the politics tab should quickly avow anyone of that notion.
 
2012-04-19 09:31:02 AM
George Zimmerman is Mexican.

/End
 
2012-04-19 09:32:29 AM

new_york_monty: A traveling exhibit from this museum came to my university last year; Some truly disturbing exhibits. It was amazing how recent some of the objects were created. The most recent things were from the 21st century. It would be nice to think that, in an age where we have an African American president, racism would be on the decline. Of course one visit to the politics tab should quickly avow anyone of that notion.


Obama is creating class warfare. He is dividing this country. He should be ashamed of his actions.
 
2012-04-19 09:33:58 AM
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Approves of racist museums
 
2012-04-19 09:34:54 AM
Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben are going to be pissed.
 
2012-04-19 09:35:56 AM
Shouldn't this place be in Alabama?


Ha, I'm just kidding. It could be anywhere in the States, really. Run, Obama, run, indeed.
 
2012-04-19 09:36:17 AM
TIKIMAN87

Are you supposed to be preemptively trolling the trolls or something?
 
2012-04-19 09:37:08 AM

TIKIMAN87: Obama is creating class warfare. He is dividing this country. He should be ashamed of his actions.


Am I the only one who doesn't know when people are joking?
 
2012-04-19 09:37:24 AM
Sum Guye: [s3.amazonaws.com image 310x440]

"We're British, how can we show we're better than Americans? Reality isn't helping!!"

"I know!! Let's make a movie!!"
 
2012-04-19 09:38:37 AM

TIKIMAN87: George Zimmerman is Mexican.

/End


Bob Zimmerman is Jewish.

/Subterranean
 
2012-04-19 09:39:33 AM
IOW - The Democrat Museum of Racist Hate.
 
2012-04-19 09:40:03 AM

new_york_monty: . It would be nice to think that, in an age where we have an African American president, racism would be on the decline. Of course one visit to the politics tab should quickly avow anyone of that notion.


If anything, it's made it a lot more visible - racist beliefs people would have kept to themselves ten years ago are now bubbling to the surface. Your average Zimmerman thread has more overt racism in it than you'd have gotten in a year of 2002-era Fark.
 
2012-04-19 09:40:03 AM
This kinda makes me sad.

I can see my dad's side of the family treating this like a trip to Mecca.
They'll go from display to display nodding and discussing the "cultural" merits of each item in reverent but hushed tones.
 
2012-04-19 09:40:12 AM
Came for Rat Race reference, leaving happy.
 
2012-04-19 09:40:29 AM

bakarocket: TIKIMAN87: Obama is creating class warfare. He is dividing this country. He should be ashamed of his actions.

Am I the only one who doesn't know when people are joking?


I'd trust your instincts this time.
 
2012-04-19 09:40:39 AM

TIKIMAN87: Obama is creating class warfare. He is dividing this country. He should be ashamed of his actions.


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2012-04-19 09:41:26 AM
Well, it's nice to know that future generations of pure, white Americans will know how their grandfathers kept the darkies down.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-04-19 09:41:34 AM

TIKIMAN87: new_york_monty: A traveling exhibit from this museum came to my university last year; Some truly disturbing exhibits. It was amazing how recent some of the objects were created. The most recent things were from the 21st century. It would be nice to think that, in an age where we have an African American president, racism would be on the decline. Of course one visit to the politics tab should quickly avow anyone of that notion.

Obama is creating class warfare. He is dividing this country. He should be ashamed of his actions.


Yep. If he would stop being black he wouldn't be causing all these problems.
 
2012-04-19 09:43:46 AM

rikkidoxx: IOW - The Democrat Museum of Racist Hate.


What the fark are you on about?

Yes, people being lynched and having their houses burned down is complete Democratic liberal revisionism.

You are the reason we still need these reminders.
 
2012-04-19 09:45:21 AM
There's a slave market in Charleston, SC, so... I mean, what are we supoposed to do? Pull a Germany & pretend none of it ever happened?
 
2012-04-19 09:45:29 AM

BronyMedic: Well, it's nice to know that future generations of pure, white Americans will know how their grandfathers kept the darkies down.


Ha! My great grandfather was a Klansman. In NJ no less. You should see Grandma try and spin that one.

"Well it was really more like a social club."
 
2012-04-19 09:46:16 AM

BronyMedic: Well, it's nice to know that future generations of pure, white Americans will know how their grandfathers kept the darkies down.


The Caucasian version is still running strongly.

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2012-04-19 09:46:25 AM

Gunther: new_york_monty: . It would be nice to think that, in an age where we have an African American president, racism would be on the decline. Of course one visit to the politics tab should quickly avow anyone of that notion.

If anything, it's made it a lot more visible - racist beliefs people would have kept to themselves ten years ago are now bubbling to the surface. Your average Zimmerman thread has more overt racism in it than you'd have gotten in a year of 2002-era Fark.


Very true.
 
2012-04-19 09:50:05 AM
Road trip!
 
2012-04-19 09:50:47 AM
Yahoo should just remove the ability to leave comments forever. Dear Lord, please smite the derp.
 
2012-04-19 09:51:17 AM
Ugh. I clicked the link hoping it was some kind of joke. Once I saw that it wasn't, I was pretty much done reading.
 
2012-04-19 09:53:15 AM

Diogenes: BronyMedic: Well, it's nice to know that future generations of pure, white Americans will know how their grandfathers kept the darkies down.

Ha! My great grandfather was a Klansman. In NJ no less. You should see Grandma try and spin that one.

"Well it was really more like a social club."


Have you watched any "Boardwalk Empire" on HBO? There are some NJ Klansmen who don't fare so well. I didn't realize until "BE" and some PBS documentaries last year that the Klan was also a big backer of Prohibition. But considering how many were Baptists and Methodists, I guess it makes sense- 'real' Americans were white, Protestant and didn't drink alcohol; other than blacks, European immigrants, Jews and Catholics, drank booze.
 
2012-04-19 09:53:57 AM
So this is where the GOP convention is going to be?
 
2012-04-19 09:54:07 AM

vpb: TIKIMAN87: new_york_monty: A traveling exhibit from this museum came to my university last year; Some truly disturbing exhibits. It was amazing how recent some of the objects were created. The most recent things were from the 21st century. It would be nice to think that, in an age where we have an African American president, racism would be on the decline. Of course one visit to the politics tab should quickly avow anyone of that notion.

Obama is creating class warfare. He is dividing this country. He should be ashamed of his actions.

Yep. If he would stop being black he wouldn't be causing all these problems.


Maybe you should listen to his words and look at his actions. You try to defend him but you are still narrow minded and your only defense is his color. Typical of Obama supporters, only support a person based on looks.
 
2012-04-19 09:54:30 AM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-04-19 09:54:42 AM
Those who live in the past are doomed to repeat it.
 
2012-04-19 09:57:19 AM

Straelbora: Diogenes: BronyMedic: Well, it's nice to know that future generations of pure, white Americans will know how their grandfathers kept the darkies down.

Ha! My great grandfather was a Klansman. In NJ no less. You should see Grandma try and spin that one.

"Well it was really more like a social club."

Have you watched any "Boardwalk Empire" on HBO? There are some NJ Klansmen who don't fare so well. I didn't realize until "BE" and some PBS documentaries last year that the Klan was also a big backer of Prohibition. But considering how many were Baptists and Methodists, I guess it makes sense- 'real' Americans were white, Protestant and didn't drink alcohol; other than blacks, European immigrants, Jews and Catholics, drank booze.


No, I haven't. I really should. I can now that I recently got HBO on demand on my new CentrurLink Prism service.

I'm sure Grammy was totally on board with Prohibition. Grandma wasn't born yet. But from what I understand about Pappy, he wouldn't have been too thrilled with the no alcohol thing.

I actually knew both. Pappy died when I was 8. Grammy at 13.
 
2012-04-19 09:58:58 AM

TIKIMAN87: Maybe you should listen to his words and look at his actions.


Then please enlighten us with some particulars, since you appear to have some to share. And please do specific on these "words and actions".
 
2012-04-19 09:59:12 AM

LL316: Those who live in the past are doomed to repeat it.


Now we know Dan Quayle's fark handle.
 
2012-04-19 09:59:18 AM

BobtheFascist: There's a slave market in Charleston, SC, so... I mean, what are we supoposed to do? Pull a Germany & pretend none of it ever happened?


I bet it has one hell of a souvenier shop.
 
2012-04-19 10:02:04 AM

bakarocket: TIKIMAN87: Obama is creating class warfare. He is dividing this country. He should be ashamed of his actions.

Am I the only one who doesn't know when people are joking?


No there's an actual Internet rule about that, it's called "Poe's law"
 
2012-04-19 10:03:11 AM

Ashtrey: BobtheFascist: There's a slave market in Charleston, SC, so... I mean, what are we supoposed to do? Pull a Germany & pretend none of it ever happened?

I bet it has one hell of a souvenier shop.


They sell actual black people. It's "meta".
 
2012-04-19 10:03:59 AM

BobtheFascist: There's a slave market in Charleston, SC, so... I mean, what are we supoposed to do? Pull a Germany & pretend none of it ever happened?


No. When it comes to such emotional topics, we shouldn't avoid them, but we shouldn't embrace them either. Americans as a whole need to come to a full understanding of history with its nuances and thus will come to a better understanding of the future. While history made us who we are, it is nothing more than history -- but since such topics are so emotional, people have warped perceptions of the past. Which means we should not avoid talking about the history, or inventing pseudo-history to deflect perceived blame (I'm looking at you, Black Confederate nutjobs).
 
2012-04-19 10:05:42 AM

rikkidoxx: IOW - The Democrat Museum of Racist Hate.


You know, you're right, democrats, particularly in the south, WERE extremely racist for a very long time, just as many Republicans are today. But here's the crucial difference. Democrats acknowledge thier past, have sincerely repented of it, and actively taken steps to fix past wrongs. Republicans seem content to say "So? Dems were racist once too! LOL!"
 
2012-04-19 10:06:05 AM
I wonder if it's popular with certain Hunger Games fans?
 
2012-04-19 10:06:22 AM
Subby, this is exactly the kind of place I'd like to take my nine-year-old son. (Except for the sex part.) It would lead to awkward questions. Many of them. And that's exact;y what I'd want. Through his mother's side of the family, he has an ancestor who was a US Senator from North Carolina who then became a CSA general who then became a naturalist. My son has trouble with the Confederate part--he's already an avowed liberal like me.

But, these questions need to be asked--especially at that age and especially for kids like him. We live in a predominately white neighborhood. There are only two African-American kids in his grade at school. Trying to change adults' minds is impossible. Logic won't help because it's not based in logic. We must show the children that racism is wrong.

/Won't someone think of the children?
 
2012-04-19 10:08:04 AM

Diogenes: When Grandma dies I'll be getting the first edition Little Black Sambo and cast iron "mammy" doorstop of hers. I'll also be getting the Nazi flag Pa brought back from the War.


How big is the flag? What kind of condition is it in? Considering the fact that Germany confiscated and burned EVERYTHING related to Nazism, that's a beautiful find indeed.

/WWII buff
//loves historical artifacts/ memoribilla...
 
2012-04-19 10:09:14 AM
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2012-04-19 10:11:01 AM

BobtheFascist: There's a slave market in Charleston, SC, so... I mean, what are we supoposed to do? Pull a Germany & pretend none of it ever happened?


I once (at midnight on Halloween no less) went on a tour of the "haunted" spots in New Orleans. Now granted I may be nothing more than an gullible fool with an over-active imagination, but there were only two spots on the tour where i really felt a chill and a sense of true "darkness" . One of those place was the little room off Jackson Square where incoming slaves were kept penned before auction. (the other being the house called "The Shame of New Orleans" where an extremely twisted sadistic couple did some indescribably horrific(even by the standards of the time) things to their slaves
 
2012-04-19 10:11:17 AM

TheEdibleSnuggie: Diogenes: When Grandma dies I'll be getting the first edition Little Black Sambo and cast iron "mammy" doorstop of hers. I'll also be getting the Nazi flag Pa brought back from the War.

How big is the flag? What kind of condition is it in? Considering the fact that Germany confiscated and burned EVERYTHING related to Nazism, that's a beautiful find indeed.

/WWII buff
//loves historical artifacts/ memoribilla...


I can certainly find out but it's in NJ at Gram's. Mom probably knows. She took it to college (oy vey). That makes me wonder what condition it's in now.

He was part of the Normandy invasion. But I'm not sure precisely where he got the flag from during his time there.
 
2012-04-19 10:18:08 AM

BobtheFascist: There's a slave market in Charleston, SC, so... I mean, what are we supoposed to do? Pull a Germany & pretend none of it ever happened?


The Slave Market (i.e. on Market Street) was not a place for buying and selling people... it is where slaves would market their wares.

The people-marts were elsewhere and have been preserved in some cases.

geek_mars: Ugh. I clicked the link hoping it was some kind of joke. Once I saw that it wasn't, I was pretty much done reading.


So you think that it would be better if folks were unaware of the legacy of Jim Crow... including artifacts representing things still in production? I'm not reading you here.

Ashtrey: I bet it has one hell of a souvenier shop.


It is mostly a place where tourist souvenirs are sold... some authentic (sweet grass baskets) and some not so much (t-shirts, bobble heads) but little to do with slavery.
 
2012-04-19 10:22:49 AM

pgh9fan: Subby, this is exactly the kind of place I'd like to take my nine-year-old son. (Except for the sex part.) It would lead to awkward questions. Many of them. And that's exact;y what I'd want. Through his mother's side of the family, he has an ancestor who was a US Senator from North Carolina who then became a CSA general who then became a naturalist. My son has trouble with the Confederate part--he's already an avowed liberal like me.

But, these questions need to be asked--especially at that age and especially for kids like him. We live in a predominately white neighborhood. There are only two African-American kids in his grade at school. Trying to change adults' minds is impossible. Logic won't help because it's not based in logic. We must show the children that racism is wrong.

/Won't someone think of the children?


I used to be a big believer in the whole "raise your kids colorblind" thing Until I learned the hard way that it's impossible. My son is not my bio kid and his bio-father was Mexican-although he never met his father (now deceased). His mother, like me, is basic European Mutt, favoring heavily to German and Irish. Which is to say she's about as white as sour cream, and her son strongly favors her in looks -so much so that pictures of him when he was smaller are often confused with pictures of me from the same age (i'm 75% Irish and scots 25% german).

Nevertheless when he was in first grade (In Chiago in a scool where the ethnic make-up was about 40% Mexican, 30% Vietnamese, 15% black and 15% white) he came home one day and asked "Mom, I'm one of the brown kids aren't I?"

To this day I have no idea how he managed to work that out, or how that difference even managed to work it's way into his 6-year old consciousness, but it taught me that race isn't something you can simply ignore and it will go away
 
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