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2012-04-18 03:13:48 PM
Heh...Hot Pie
 
2012-04-18 03:14:56 PM
Ok, I chuckled.
 
2012-04-18 03:15:08 PM
Forced meme is forced.
 
2012-04-18 03:15:40 PM
Giggles.
 
2012-04-18 03:16:25 PM
i.imgur.com

Arrested GOP
 
2012-04-18 03:16:31 PM
I worry that commenting may encourage them to keep doing this... but stop with the sponsored Comedy Central "indecision links".... make it funny, then it'll be worth clicking. It's just sad, guys. Your other work is just so very good... just... just stop... please? For the children?

/Though I'm all for you giving money to Fark... maybe just do it to link to something funny.
 
2012-04-18 03:17:06 PM
With all the sex and nudity, I can relate but I don't swing the gay way, sorry. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
2012-04-18 03:18:16 PM
Was that supposed to be funny?
 
2012-04-18 03:20:15 PM
Palin/Dany made me throw up a little in my mouth.

/Where do link whores go?
 
2012-04-18 03:21:39 PM
Currently on Book 4 now (Feast of Crows). While I am reading it and enjoying it now and then, I REALLY hate the knob-slobbering review quotes on the book that say RRRRRR Martin is an "American Tolkien".

No. Not even close. Do NOT go there.

What Martin does do is present a salacious low-fantasy tale told in a Tom Clancy "8 stories at once" style that bait-and-switches the reader at several points as well as not actually forming a plot or having a protagonist. If you boiled down the actual plotline for one character for one book, you might have a 20 page read out of 800 pages. There is no 'point' to the story, it is just an ambling hither and yon tale that does entertain in its own way.

But it is NOT Tolkien.
 
2012-04-18 03:24:55 PM
Why is everyone always trying to stab a black brother in the back?
 
2012-04-18 03:26:15 PM

ObscureNameHere: Currently on Book 4 now (Feast of Crows). While I am reading it and enjoying it now and then, I REALLY hate the knob-slobbering review quotes on the book that say RRRRRR Martin is an "American Tolkien".

No. Not even close. Do NOT go there.

What Martin does do is present a salacious low-fantasy tale told in a Tom Clancy "8 stories at once" style that bait-and-switches the reader at several points as well as not actually forming a plot or having a protagonist. If you boiled down the actual plotline for one character for one book, you might have a 20 page read out of 800 pages. There is no 'point' to the story, it is just an ambling hither and yon tale that does entertain in its own way.

But it is NOT Tolkien.


Seconded. It's entertaining -- and that's all some people want. I haven't read the books, but I bought them for my gf who is an avid reader of fantasy and horror. She seems to enjoy them. Me, I'll watch the show and enjoy it that way.
 
2012-04-18 03:27:01 PM
A Gingrich never repays his debts.
 
2012-04-18 03:27:08 PM
inaditch.com
 
2012-04-18 03:27:17 PM

ObscureNameHere: Currently on Book 4 now (Feast of Crows). While I am reading it and enjoying it now and then, I REALLY hate the knob-slobbering review quotes on the book that say RRRRRR Martin is an "American Tolkien".

No. Not even close. Do NOT go there.

What Martin does do is present a salacious low-fantasy tale told in a Tom Clancy "8 stories at once" style that bait-and-switches the reader at several points as well as not actually forming a plot or having a protagonist. If you boiled down the actual plotline for one character for one book, you might have a 20 page read out of 800 pages. There is no 'point' to the story, it is just an ambling hither and yon tale that does entertain in its own way.

But it is NOT Tolkien.


Robert Jordan ruined me with that meandering multi-threaded plot horsewash. Three book cycles or under for me from now on.
 
2012-04-18 03:28:04 PM

ObscureNameHere: Currently on Book 4 now (Feast of Crows). While I am reading it and enjoying it now and then, I REALLY hate the knob-slobbering review quotes on the book that say RRRRRR Martin is an "American Tolkien".

No. Not even close. Do NOT go there.

What Martin does do is present a salacious low-fantasy tale told in a Tom Clancy "8 stories at once" style that bait-and-switches the reader at several points as well as not actually forming a plot or having a protagonist. If you boiled down the actual plotline for one character for one book, you might have a 20 page read out of 800 pages. There is no 'point' to the story, it is just an ambling hither and yon tale that does entertain in its own way.

But it is NOT Tolkien.


They're referring to the scope and breadth of the world he created. Not the content.
 
2012-04-18 03:31:37 PM

Shostie: ObscureNameHere: Currently on Book 4 now (Feast of Crows). While I am reading it and enjoying it now and then, I REALLY hate the knob-slobbering review quotes on the book that say RRRRRR Martin is an "American Tolkien".

No. Not even close. Do NOT go there.

What Martin does do is present a salacious low-fantasy tale told in a Tom Clancy "8 stories at once" style that bait-and-switches the reader at several points as well as not actually forming a plot or having a protagonist. If you boiled down the actual plotline for one character for one book, you might have a 20 page read out of 800 pages. There is no 'point' to the story, it is just an ambling hither and yon tale that does entertain in its own way.

But it is NOT Tolkien.

They're referring to the scope and breadth of the world he created. Not the content.


I've always found Martin's characters to be more believable...
 
2012-04-18 03:31:59 PM
HOT PIE!
 
2012-04-18 03:33:56 PM

ObscureNameHere: Currently on Book 4 now (Feast of Crows). While I am reading it and enjoying it now and then, I REALLY hate the knob-slobbering review quotes on the book that say RRRRRR Martin is an "American Tolkien".

No. Not even close. Do NOT go there.

What Martin does do is present a salacious low-fantasy tale told in a Tom Clancy "8 stories at once" style that bait-and-switches the reader at several points as well as not actually forming a plot or having a protagonist. If you boiled down the actual plotline for one character for one book, you might have a 20 page read out of 800 pages. There is no 'point' to the story, it is just an ambling hither and yon tale that does entertain in its own way.

But it is NOT Tolkien.


It if was Tolkien, the sex scenes would take 40 pages.

/40 sticky sticky pages.
 
2012-04-18 03:34:37 PM
Martin doesn't come close to Tolkien because nobody comes close to Tolkien.

Tolkien created an entire world that existed for 4 ages and on, and The Lord of The Rings, although a major tale that reshapes Middle Earth, is one small part of that world. He was not even a writer, by trade or training, and he pulled the whole thing out of thin air. Call his books ponderous and dull if you will, but 100 years from now, he will still have the same literary stature. Will Martin?

Martin's books are entertaining and well written, but it's like a soap opera that keeps going and going and going.
 
2012-04-18 03:35:06 PM
I did not enjoy one Tolkien book. Never even finished the Hobbit. I'm not knocking him, I just was SUPER bored trying to read his stuff.

/liked the movies though, weird
//I know I'm in the minority on this
 
2012-04-18 03:35:37 PM
cdn.thesandtrap.com
 
2012-04-18 03:37:07 PM

ObscureNameHere:

But it is NOT Tolkien.


Couldn't agree more. George RR Martin is overrated, but he's nowhere near Tolkien overrated.
 
2012-04-18 03:37:28 PM
I mean Jesus Christ, 5 farking books and.....

Well, I'm not going to spoil it.
 
2012-04-18 03:38:36 PM

GameSprocket: ObscureNameHere: Currently on Book 4 now (Feast of Crows). While I am reading it and enjoying it now and then, I REALLY hate the knob-slobbering review quotes on the book that say RRRRRR Martin is an "American Tolkien".

No. Not even close. Do NOT go there.

What Martin does do is present a salacious low-fantasy tale told in a Tom Clancy "8 stories at once" style that bait-and-switches the reader at several points as well as not actually forming a plot or having a protagonist. If you boiled down the actual plotline for one character for one book, you might have a 20 page read out of 800 pages. There is no 'point' to the story, it is just an ambling hither and yon tale that does entertain in its own way.

But it is NOT Tolkien.

It if was Tolkien, the sex scenes would take 40 pages.

/40 sticky sticky pages.


And there would be a singing interlude.
 
2012-04-18 03:38:45 PM

GameSprocket: ObscureNameHere: Currently on Book 4 now (Feast of Crows). While I am reading it and enjoying it now and then, I REALLY hate the knob-slobbering review quotes on the book that say RRRRRR Martin is an "American Tolkien".

No. Not even close. Do NOT go there.

What Martin does do is present a salacious low-fantasy tale told in a Tom Clancy "8 stories at once" style that bait-and-switches the reader at several points as well as not actually forming a plot or having a protagonist. If you boiled down the actual plotline for one character for one book, you might have a 20 page read out of 800 pages. There is no 'point' to the story, it is just an ambling hither and yon tale that does entertain in its own way.

But it is NOT Tolkien.

It if was Tolkien, the sex scenes would take 40 pages.

/40 sticky sticky pages.


It'd be the last 40 pages of the 800 page book too.
 
2012-04-18 03:38:46 PM
Piers Anthony and Ann McCaffrey on the other hand.......hacks. Unadulterated pap.
 
2012-04-18 03:40:03 PM
Terry Pratchett? Bilge. Utter crap.
 
2012-04-18 03:41:07 PM
George RR Martin's science fiction was assloads better.

ASSLOADS.
 
2012-04-18 03:42:34 PM

Jake Havechek: Piers Anthony and Ann McCaffrey on the other hand.......hacks. Unadulterated pap.


But I liked the Xanth books...

At least the early ones. By the time it got to Ivy's generation, it started getting ridiculous.
 
2012-04-18 03:42:59 PM

Jake Havechek: Terry Pratchett? Bilge. Utter crap.


"I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it."
 
2012-04-18 03:43:13 PM

Jake Havechek: Piers Anthony and Ann McCaffrey on the other hand.......hacks. Unadulterated pap.


Piers Anthony, Ann McCaffrey great in high school, good stories, mediocre writing.

Give me Asimov. And take your shiny metal ass with you.
 
2012-04-18 03:43:26 PM

PIP_the_TROLL: But I liked the Xanth books...


First 3 are passable. After that it's just fan service puns.
 
2012-04-18 03:44:38 PM

Jake Havechek: Terry Pratchett? Bilge. Utter crap.


Shakespeare... what an overrated sack of crap.
 
2012-04-18 03:44:43 PM
Oh jeez, Isaac Asimov.

The Prelude To Foundation series is like Ambien without the nakedness and sleepwalking.
 
2012-04-18 03:46:11 PM
goo.gl
 
2012-04-18 03:48:11 PM

Famous Thamas: Jake Havechek: Terry Pratchett? Bilge. Utter crap.

Shakespeare... what an overrated sack of crap.


Eh, he's not as bad as that Steinbeck jackass. Talk about overly simplistic crap that just says the obvious.
 
2012-04-18 03:48:37 PM

Jake Havechek: Tolkien created an entire world


To be fair he didnt create that world. He did a nice job of ironing out a tangled hot mess of Welsh lore into a linear form. Much the same way JK Rowling did for a new generation of readers.
 
2012-04-18 03:49:10 PM
I don't think it's a fair comparison between Tolkien and Martin as fantasy writers, in the same sense that Archimedes and Isaac Newton can't really be compared as mathematicians.

Tolkien is one of the giants whose shoulders many current fantasy writers stand on. I personally am not really a fan of Tolkien's works, but I can see the impact he has had on writers of the genre.
 
2012-04-18 03:49:38 PM
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/Rick has a certain cersei-esque quality to him.
 
2012-04-18 03:50:08 PM

Jake Havechek: Terry Pratchett? Bilge. Utter crap.


lol - trolling a sci fi/fantasy book thread? You must be bored. Didnt you you get the MoP beta invite yet?
 
2012-04-18 03:50:41 PM

Snapper Carr: PIP_the_TROLL: But I liked the Xanth books...

First 3 are passable. After that it's just fan service puns.


Yeah, pretty true for the most part. Really all I liked was some of the ingenious uses of very specialized magic. A lot of those ideas came from his fans, but it was still interesting.

I have a tendency to fixate on the trappings of a 'verse' over the actual content of it. Like I hate most everything everyone likes about Star Trek (utopian future, humanistic crap, etc). I really just like the blinky light tech and cool space ships. And DS9 for the great characters.

So with Xanth, I just liked the cool ways magic was occasionally used.
 
2012-04-18 03:52:39 PM

quickdraw: Jake Havechek: Tolkien created an entire world

To be fair he didnt create that world. He did a nice job of ironing out a tangled hot mess of Welsh lore into a linear form. Much the same way JK Rowling did for a new generation of readers.


In all seriousness, I remember reading something about Tolkien being disappointed that the English didn't have any epic stories/legends and LotR was his way of filling that gap.
 
2012-04-18 03:52:54 PM
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2012-04-18 03:53:55 PM
My phone rang just as I was reading the Ron Paul one, and I had to let it go to voicemail and call them back.
 
2012-04-18 03:55:12 PM

Jackson Herring: [Palin/Hodor]


LOL I was actually gonna do that exact same thing next just to get the taste of that bad Palin/Danys one in the link out of my mind. Thanks.
 
2012-04-18 03:55:42 PM

Jim from Saint Paul:


If I wasn't married, I would plow her into next week... And I wouldn't need her brother's help either.
 
2012-04-18 03:56:10 PM

ObscureNameHere: Currently on Book 4 now (Feast of Crows). While I am reading it and enjoying it now and then, I REALLY hate the knob-slobbering review quotes on the book that say RRRRRR Martin is an "American Tolkien".

No. Not even close. Do NOT go there.

What Martin does do is present a salacious low-fantasy tale told in a Tom Clancy "8 stories at once" style that bait-and-switches the reader at several points as well as not actually forming a plot or having a protagonist. If you boiled down the actual plotline for one character for one book, you might have a 20 page read out of 800 pages. There is no 'point' to the story, it is just an ambling hither and yon tale that does entertain in its own way.

But it is NOT Tolkien.


I agree.
 
2012-04-18 03:56:42 PM

Jake Havechek: Terry Pratchett? Bilge. Utter crap.


Would you say his work is easily forgettable?
 
2012-04-18 03:57:24 PM

Solon Isonomia:
But it is NOT Tolkien.

They're referring to the scope and breadth of the world he created. Not the content.

I've always found Martin's characters to be more believable...


Well, given it is low-fantasy it makes sense that the characters are more 'real' seeming. Plus, you have 50 years of style advancement and public standards to change the writing style. Could Tolkien have even been allowed to write graphic scenes involving pre-teen/barely teen girls and older men? (which Martin seems to enjoy writing about a little too much....). Could Tolkien have written gore as graphically? Unlikely.

Certainly, some of the characters do shine as interesting (Sandor Clegane comes to mind).
 
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