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(The Indy Channel)   Woman allergic to paprika brings service dog to work where coworker allergic to dogs files complaint to prevent dog in the workplace thus causing woman to file lawsuit. The allergy Aristocrats   (theindychannel.com) divider line 231
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2012-04-17 10:43:03 PM
What exactly is she doing for a living that puts her in direct contact with paprika constantly? What a twat.
 
2012-04-17 10:46:50 PM
She is not a twat if she has had run-ins with it on other occasions that have caused her suffering. Regardless of how ridiculous this may seem to anyone else, she is covered under the ADA and the company is in the wrong.
 
2012-04-17 10:56:52 PM

brownlady79: She is not a twat if she has had run-ins with it on other occasions that have caused her suffering. Regardless of how ridiculous this may seem to anyone else, she is covered under the ADA and the company is in the wrong.


Personal responsibility, R.I.P.

/your food allergy is not my problem
 
2012-04-17 11:01:15 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: /your food allergy is not my problem


Your problem with people who have food allergies is not my problem.
 
2012-04-17 11:18:29 PM

Blues_X: The My Little Pony Killer: /your food allergy is not my problem

Your problem with people who have food allergies is not my problem.


That's great, because I'm not trying to make it your problem.

/the twat with the allergy, on the other hand...
 
2012-04-17 11:41:26 PM
... what the hell good is a service dog for avoiding food allergies?
 
2012-04-17 11:44:41 PM

kmmontandon: ... what the hell good is a service dog for avoiding food allergies?


It eats the questionable food just to be sure
 
2012-04-17 11:47:22 PM

kmmontandon: ... what the hell good is a service dog for avoiding food allergies?


I'm guessing here but I think the dog is trained to detect the smell of hte offending food and alert their owner so they can better avoid it.
 
2012-04-17 11:59:53 PM

Ambivalence: kmmontandon: ... what the hell good is a service dog for avoiding food allergies?

I'm guessing here but I think the dog is trained to detect the smell of hte offending food and alert their owner so they can better avoid it.


*bark* "where's the food lassie?" *bark* "*gasp* is it in the fridge?!" *bark* "where the hell is it Lassie?! Tell me! *wheeeze*" *bark* *thud*
 
2012-04-18 12:00:22 AM

kmmontandon: ... what the hell good is a service dog for avoiding food allergies?


Pretty sure you can train a dog to recognize the smell of paprika the way you can train it to recognize just about anything else.
 
2012-04-18 12:04:21 AM

brownlady79: She is not a twat if she has had run-ins with it on other occasions that have caused her suffering. Regardless of how ridiculous this may seem to anyone else, she is covered under the ADA and the company is in the wrong.


Which one, the one allergic to paprika or the one allergic to dogs? Pretty sure under the ADA theyre both entitled to reasonable accommodations, although no dogs seems the MORE reasonable of the two...

Im pretty allergic to cats. I would not choose to work in a cat friendly office where people were encouraged to bring their cats. But if my once cat free workplace suddenly became cat friendly on some whim of the ceo or whatever, you can bet id raise hell. Although thankfully a few particles of cat dont nearly kill me and make the next time worse. And thankfully cats are not the 3rd most common seasoning on the planet, so i dont really have to go out of my way to avoid them. But if cats WERE the 3rd most common seasoning on the planet occurring in literally millions of foods... well id probably try to find a job i could do from the confines of my bubble.
 
2012-04-18 12:07:11 AM
Maybe the dog stops her from eating other people's food, because that's the only way I can imagine her being unknowingly exposed to paprika.
 
2012-04-18 09:00:20 AM
Oh come on.. the anime "Paprika" can't be that bad
 
2012-04-18 09:02:07 AM
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and now for the image that was too large for some reason
 
2012-04-18 09:14:23 AM
I'm willing to bet that the co-worker with the allergy to dogs is either a nicer or better employee.
 
2012-04-18 09:14:56 AM
Wouldn't a reasonable accommodation for the coont's allergy for the company to forgo their 'zero tolerance' drug policy and allow her to carry an EpiPen?
 
2012-04-18 09:15:10 AM

cwolf20: Oh come on.. the anime "Paprika" can't be that bad


It's decent.

Though, I had to sue an employer once over a co-worker having an allergy to Curse of the Overfiend.
 
2012-04-18 09:15:10 AM

kmmontandon: ... what the hell good is a service dog for avoiding food allergies?


Probably one of those people who got a rat dog that they claim calms their "anxiety", ie, can't go anywhere without pookie. I didn't see anything that indicated it was a paprika detcting dog?
 
2012-04-18 09:15:52 AM
Yep, this is where we're heading - the company will not be able to win IF (again that's an IF) the individuals refuse to accept anything less than full accomodation. You end up with employees with conflicting ADA requirements and you can't win.

The lady with the allergy seems (at least from the story) to be trying to work something out by limiting herself to certain areas who knows though what the real story is.
 
2012-04-18 09:15:54 AM

brownlady79: She is not a twat if she has had run-ins with it on other occasions that have caused her suffering. Regardless of how ridiculous this may seem to anyone else, she is covered under the ADA and the company is in the wrong.


Isn't her dog-allergic coworker also covered? How about just pack your own lunch, and don't use the vending machine or eat other peoples food. Problem solved.
 
2012-04-18 09:16:59 AM
Kill them both.

Problem solved.
 
2012-04-18 09:17:18 AM
Please, this kind of stupidity has to end.
A service dog to keep you away from paprika?
REALLY?
Come on this is so stupid I want to puke.
 
2012-04-18 09:17:30 AM

Cyno01: brownlady79: And thankfully cats are not the 3rd most common seasoning on the planet, so i dont really have to go out of my way to avoid them. But if cats WERE the 3rd most common seasoning on the planet occurring in literally millions of foods... well id probably try to find a job i could do from the confines of my bubble.


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2012-04-18 09:18:06 AM
I'd be interested in knowing if this woman still does her own grocery shopping, goes out to restaurants, or does other things that may put her in more realistic contact with paprika than going to work every day.

Because, seriously, if the office went as far as scrubbing the vending machine for the offending spice then people there know of her condition and it's not like some jerk is going to put it on his/her lunch in the fridge just to mess with her.
 
2012-04-18 09:18:25 AM
Maybe the dog-sensitive worker needs a helper cat to warn her when a dog is nearby. The cat only has to write a note, give it to the helper monkey, and the helper monkey will have the helper koala eat the note and poop on the worker's lap, to warn of the dog's proximity.
 
2012-04-18 09:20:43 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: What exactly is she doing for a living that puts her in direct contact with paprika constantly? What a twat.


Obviously one of her co-workers has a devilled egg fetish, and is constantly sprinkling paprika all over the place.

I really have no idea what else you use paprika for.
 
2012-04-18 09:21:53 AM
The one with the dog allergy should bring in a dog detecting service cat.
 
2012-04-18 09:22:16 AM

CruJones: brownlady79: She is not a twat if she has had run-ins with it on other occasions that have caused her suffering. Regardless of how ridiculous this may seem to anyone else, she is covered under the ADA and the company is in the wrong.

Isn't her dog-allergic coworker also covered? How about just pack your own lunch, and don't use the vending machine or eat other peoples food. Problem solved.


That won't help when the other employees have one of their frequent, playful paprika fights in the break room.
 
2012-04-18 09:22:37 AM
Can the employer fire them both, and thus prove that he treats them equally despite their disabilities?
 
2012-04-18 09:26:00 AM
The ADA is utter and complete bullshiat.
 
2012-04-18 09:28:05 AM

brownlady79: She is not a twat if she has had run-ins with it on other occasions that have caused her suffering. Regardless of how ridiculous this may seem to anyone else, she is covered under the ADA and the company is in the wrong.


Can I get covered under the ADA to bring a service animal in to sniff out offenders wearing any amount of scent -- perfume, fabric softener, deoderized maxi pad, weekend gasoline spill -- or is that only for people who have a note from their doctor?

Just because someone has a right to a service animal is not the same as needing to use that right. The less intrusive resolutions should take precedence.

Or she can trade out her service animal for one of those human hair types where people have less chance of getting allergic reactions from them.
 
2012-04-18 09:28:23 AM

Technoir: The My Little Pony Killer: What exactly is she doing for a living that puts her in direct contact with paprika constantly? What a twat.

Obviously one of her co-workers has a devilled egg fetish, and is constantly sprinkling paprika all over the place.

I really have no idea what else you use paprika for.


I'd be willing to bet its on every orange colored Dorito....
 
2012-04-18 09:31:28 AM

brownlady79: She is not a twat if she has had run-ins with it on other occasions that have caused her suffering. Regardless of how ridiculous this may seem to anyone else, she is covered under the ADA and the company is in the wrong.


Lawyer?
 
2012-04-18 09:32:33 AM
There is a paprika-based supplement that really helps me with my dog allergies.
 
2012-04-18 09:33:36 AM
Even if the vending machines had items that included paprika as a ingredient, they are wrapped up, in a box, and even if someone were to buy and consume one, i seriously doubt that there would be a paprika explosion. It's an INGREDIENT, not a bad full of powdered papricka someone is throwing in the air conditioning vent.
 
2012-04-18 09:36:20 AM
I have a severe allergy to stupid people..... I suddenly come over all cockpunchy!
 
2012-04-18 09:37:13 AM

TheGreatGazoo: The one with the dog allergy should bring in a dog detecting service cat.


Then we can get cat sniffing gorillas.

Seriously, it's Indiana who gives a shiat I am guessing both of genetic powerhouses are one allergy attack away from getting a government provided bubble-scooter.
 
2012-04-18 09:38:10 AM

brownlady79: She is not a twat if she has had run-ins with it on other occasions that have caused her suffering. Regardless of how ridiculous this may seem to anyone else, she is covered under the ADA and the company is in the wrong.


So what about the person with the allegery to dogs? Does the ADA not cover the coworker as well?
 
2012-04-18 09:40:35 AM
Bless the Maker and all His Water. Bless the coming and going of Him, May His passing cleanse the world. May He keep the world for his people.

THE SPICE MUST FLOW!

/got nuthin'
 
2012-04-18 09:41:02 AM

Silly Jesus: The ADA is utter and complete bullshiat.


actually it's not but it gets abused a lot. if this woman could work from home and do the same level/quantity/quality of work they should have let her. there would have been some biatching by the other workers who can't work from home but that would have died out in a couple of months.

OTOH miss no paprika may have been making such a commotion it was easier to fire her and take the lawsuit.
 
2012-04-18 09:44:32 AM
www.redflarekits.com

/solved
 
2012-04-18 09:45:07 AM
So being allergic to the tasteless power that people sprinkle on top of chicken salad is suddenly a disability? The more you know.
 
2012-04-18 09:46:56 AM

brownlady79: She is not a twat if she has had run-ins with it on other occasions that have caused her suffering. Regardless of how ridiculous this may seem to anyone else, she is covered under the ADA and the company is in the wrong.


This just means that the government sanctions her twatness. It doesn't make her any less of a twat.
 
2012-04-18 09:51:27 AM
What's a twat?
 
2012-04-18 09:51:44 AM
I agree with the ADA but it is sometimes allowed to get out of hand. The school keeps sending me notes telling me not to send PB&J sandwiches in my kids lunch because some people have severe peanut allergies. My kid loves PB&J so fark em. I tell him not to share with anyone and if my kid were deathly allergic to something I would make damn sure he was aware of it and stayed away from other kids lunches.

I keep sending the sandwiches, they send a note home every couple weeks. The cycle continues.
 
2012-04-18 09:52:00 AM

Technoir: The My Little Pony Killer: What exactly is she doing for a living that puts her in direct contact with paprika constantly? What a twat.

Obviously one of her co-workers has a devilled egg fetish, and is constantly sprinkling paprika all over the place.

I really have no idea what else you use paprika for.


It's an under rated spice. The milder forms are great for say, home fries. They add a bit of colour to make the tater's look crispier than they really are. I use it all the time as a general spice from ground beef to soups and stews. The spicy stuff is really great in soups, stews and goulashes. Next time you fry up some minute steaks (or any steaks for that matter), add salt, pepper and paprika to the meat as you fry them. When done, add a bit of water to the pan and reduce for a great thin sauce.

More tips next week on Paprika With Thud.
 
2012-04-18 09:52:31 AM
A) The dog is there to keep looters away from her dead body.

B) The dog is there to give her Last Rites; it is a service animal after all.

C) The dog is there to bite coworkers who sprinkle paprika on every damn thing.

D) The dog is there because it's the only intelligent animal in the building.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-04-18 09:52:50 AM

BR549: What's a twat?


The lady in TFA.
 
2012-04-18 09:53:51 AM
Okay she is a project development analyst, not working the county clerk counter. Stick her in a different office on a different floor and give her video conferencing software, a webcam, email, and a phone. She should be set.

I have a feeling she will lose in court. ADA requires reasonable accommodation. If accommodation is considered onerous to the employer (like building her own clean room), bye-bye. If they can show that her job duties prohibit letting an employee work from home full time, she will lose. (That's why current legal job descriptions are very, very detailed down to whether or not you need color vision, to be able to stand, etc.)

The lobby? WTF? Yes, that's a professional image. It's a city building, not a Starbucks.
 
2012-04-18 09:54:24 AM
TFA was actually pretty clear on every angle brought up by commenters in this thread:
1. Couldn't they just keep paprika-containing foods out of the office like good team players? After steps to avoid paprika at work, including eliminating certain foods from the office vending machines, proved ineffective, the city's ADA coordinator gave Kysel information about service dogs that can detect the spice..."

2. What can the dog do to help her? "service dogs that can detect the spice..."

3. Couldn't she work from home? "Kysel offered to temporarily work in the public lobby with her service dog or work from home until the matter was settled, but those requests were denied, and she was told she could either work without her service dog or remain on unpaid leave, according to the lawsuit."

What wasn't clearly addressed was the co-worker's allergy. Now I know a lot of people that have pet allergies; the guy in the next office is one. However, I can bring my dog to work every day and it is not a problem for him because I keep the dog out of his office. "Getting the sniffles" is not a disability.

""Even in small inhaled amounts, Ms. Kysel suffers from severe allergic anaphylactic reactions. Each exposure to paprika makes the next allergic reaction more severe," is a disability. She paid $10,000 to protect herself, and people are talking about "personal responsibility?"

And this is coming from a person that is skeptical of the accommodations that parents force upon schools because of their kids' allergies.
 
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