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(Washington Post)   Leon Panetta says he regrets his trips from DC to CA every weekend - costing taxpayers $32,000 each trip - and will look for ways to save money. Not traveling to California every weekend strangely absent from his savings plans   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 206
    More: Interesting, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, costing taxpayers, Maryland's Eastern Shore, saves, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld  
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2012-04-17 12:46:51 PM
Maybe you should, I don't know, move your family to the DC area like every other person in the Federal Government does who works in Washington. Try Potomac, MD or across the river in McLean, VA. Those are the rich neighborhoods where most Congressmen and Cabinet members live.
 
2012-04-17 01:40:45 PM
Hmmm... all of the Farklibs that usually flock to a politics thread seem to be strangely absent. I wonder why?
 
2012-04-17 01:46:12 PM
Yeah, THIS is the part of the defense budget to get outraged about.
 
2012-04-17 01:46:38 PM
Sounds gimmicky.
 
2012-04-17 01:46:58 PM
Also strangely absent is an offer to reimburse those expenses at all. It's almost like he doesn't regret it at all, and is just saying that so people will leave him alone.
 
2012-04-17 01:47:10 PM

BillCo: Hmmm... all of the Farklibs that usually flock to a politics thread seem to be strangely absent. I wonder why?


Maybe because it's not a partisan issue or something worth defending?
 
2012-04-17 01:47:36 PM
The pilots needed the training hours anyway. So it really cost nothing like all those flybys of sporting events, right?
 
2012-04-17 01:47:52 PM
It costs 1.2 million a day for him to walk down the street. True fact.
 
2012-04-17 01:48:44 PM

BillCo: Hmmm... all of the Farklibs that usually flock to a politics thread seem to be strangely absent. I wonder why?


Sorry, I've been too busy aborting.
 
2012-04-17 01:49:33 PM
"A taxpayer would have to pick up those costs with any secretary of state or secretary of defense. But having said that, I am trying to look at what are ... the alternatives here that I can look at that might possibly be able to save funds and, at the same time, be able to fulfill my responsibilities, not only to my job, but to my family."

Lol. "[M]ight possibly", "trying to look".

Guy sounds like a douche and a liar. Just trying to make himself look good because he got caught with his hand in the jar. I don't believe for one second he gives a flying fark about his travelling expenses.
 
2012-04-17 01:50:13 PM

BillCo: Hmmm... all of the Farklibs that usually flock to a politics thread seem to be strangely absent. I wonder why?


Because only lame idiots believe that one,

His bill for the travel is calculated according to reimbursement formulas dictated by longstanding federal policies using what a full-fare coach trip would cost. And the Pentagon says it costs about $3,200 per flight hour to operate the small plane he usually uses for the 10-hour round trip.

has any bearing in reality - odds are very good that this plane and fuel would be in service anyway, so the $ figure is bogus on its face, as well as the crew salary being prepaid as well regardless of use.

and two, that this is substantively different than one or more members of every administration since the invention of air travel. But go ahead and run with it - it's not like you've got anything else at this point.
 
2012-04-17 01:51:12 PM
BTW, as a DOD employee who's had to go out of pocket for work-related travel because our travel budget's been slashed, I'm having trouble [redacted].
 
2012-04-17 01:51:32 PM
One hellfire missile: 70000.
Two Panetta trips: 64000.

The solution here is pretty obvious.

/get out of Afghanistan
 
2012-04-17 01:52:08 PM

BillCo: Hmmm... all of the Farklibs that usually flock to a politics thread seem to be strangely absent. I wonder why?


Would it change your mind if Obama called him a jackass?
 
2012-04-17 01:52:48 PM

bdub77: One hellfire missile: 70000.
Two Panetta trips: 64000.

The solution here is pretty obvious.

/get out of Afghanistan


Wrong, more taxcuts.
 
2012-04-17 01:52:50 PM
This sounds ridiculous. The cost of the roundtrip actually doesn't bother me (frankly that's about what I expected). But why does he need to go home every weekend?
 
2012-04-17 01:53:03 PM

Dunnski: BillCo: Hmmm... all of the Farklibs that usually flock to a politics thread seem to be strangely absent. I wonder why?

Sorry, I've been too busy aborting.


I've outsourced all my aborting to Mexican terrorists so I can spend more time fighting the War on Christmas. You should join up. It's a great cause.
 
2012-04-17 01:54:35 PM
How very Rod Blagoevich of him.
 
2012-04-17 01:55:04 PM

BillCo: Hmmm... all of the Farklibs that usually flock to a politics thread seem to be strangely absent. I wonder why?


2 posts in? Really?
 
2012-04-17 01:55:12 PM

justinguarini4ever: This sounds ridiculous. The cost of the roundtrip actually doesn't bother me (frankly that's about what I expected). But why does he need to go home every weekend?


He took Guile's advice
 
2012-04-17 01:56:30 PM

Paul Baumer: Because only lame idiots believe that one,

His bill for the travel is calculated according to reimbursement formulas dictated by longstanding federal policies using what a full-fare coach trip would cost. And the Pentagon says it costs about $3,200 per flight hour to operate the small plane he usually uses for the 10-hour round trip.

has any bearing in reality - odds are very good that this plane and fuel would be in service anyway, so the $ figure is bogus on its face, as well as the crew salary being prepaid as well regardless of use.


Considering how small the number is, it's likely just cost of fuel burn and wear/tear.
 
2012-04-17 01:56:33 PM

Spazmojack: Dunnski: BillCo: Hmmm... all of the Farklibs that usually flock to a politics thread seem to be strangely absent. I wonder why?

Sorry, I've been too busy aborting.

I've outsourced all my aborting to Mexican terrorists so I can spend more time fighting the War on Christmas. You should join up. It's a great cause.


Too busy with my death panel work. That soylent green isn't going to make itself.
 
2012-04-17 01:57:08 PM

Spazmojack: Dunnski: BillCo: Hmmm... all of the Farklibs that usually flock to a politics thread seem to be strangely absent. I wonder why?

Sorry, I've been too busy aborting.

I've outsourced all my aborting to Mexican terrorists so I can spend more time fighting the War on Christmas. You should join up. It's a great cause.


As long as I can still work on my Acorn newsletters on the weekend...I'm in.
 
2012-04-17 01:57:09 PM

Spazmojack: Dunnski: BillCo: Hmmm... all of the Farklibs that usually flock to a politics thread seem to be strangely absent. I wonder why?

Sorry, I've been too busy aborting.

I've outsourced all my aborting to Mexican terrorists so I can spend more time fighting the War on Christmas. You should join up. It's a great cause.


Don't forget all the energy it takes to change Hispanics from a race to an ethnicity while causing 17 year old boys to have strange hormonal problems to make them look 12 years old. It keeps libs really busy.
 
2012-04-17 01:58:28 PM

LarryDan43: BillCo: Hmmm... all of the Farklibs that usually flock to a politics thread seem to be strangely absent. I wonder why?

Would it change your mind if Obama called him a jackass?


Well, I would like to see Obama apologize for the poor judgement he has shown in allowing this to continue. Of course, if he started apologizing for his poor judgement, he probably wouldn't be able to stop. I don't think any of us have that much time.
 
2012-04-17 01:59:28 PM

BillCo: Hmmm... all of the Farklibs that usually flock to a politics thread seem to be strangely absent. I wonder why?


Because we know how the libby libs just love wasteful defense spending...
 
2012-04-17 02:00:20 PM

netweavr: justinguarini4ever: This sounds ridiculous. The cost of the roundtrip actually doesn't bother me (frankly that's about what I expected). But why does he need to go home every weekend?

He took Guile's advice


...sonic boom?
 
2012-04-17 02:00:39 PM

LarryDan43: bdub77: One hellfire missile: 70000.
Two Panetta trips: 64000.

The solution here is pretty obvious.

/get out of Afghanistan

Wrong, more taxcuts.


I'm only in favor of this if we also attack Iran. The two issues are intertwined.
 
2012-04-17 02:01:04 PM

BillCo: Hmmm... all of the Farklibs that usually flock to a politics thread seem to be strangely absent. I wonder why?


There still in the Virginia Foxx thread from yesterday laughing at Half of 33's stupidity and complete lack of any other Derpers in there either defending the coont or deriding her.

So BillCo, I'm not thrilled with the costs, though I do think this is all a GOP ham-handed attempt at a reverse Sununu (remember that piece of shiat expense wracker-upper?), but I expect Panetta to make changes in his routines even though what he was doing was allowed under all rules in place. That's my opinion on it.

I missed your opinion on Virginia Foxx yesterday? What was your opinion on that?

Foxx Corrupt (new window)
 
2012-04-17 02:01:31 PM

beta_plus: Spazmojack: Dunnski: BillCo: Hmmm... all of the Farklibs that usually flock to a politics thread seem to be strangely absent. I wonder why?

Sorry, I've been too busy aborting.

I've outsourced all my aborting to Mexican terrorists so I can spend more time fighting the War on Christmas. You should join up. It's a great cause.

Don't forget all the energy it takes to change Hispanics from a race to an ethnicity while causing 17 year old boys to have strange hormonal problems to make them look 12 years old. It keeps libs really busy.


...........wut

/?
 
2012-04-17 02:01:38 PM

justinguarini4ever: This sounds ridiculous. The cost of the roundtrip actually doesn't bother me (frankly that's about what I expected). But why does he need to go home every weekend?


Because he's a swaggering big shot rich guy in a position of power, and this is 21st Century America, where there is no royalty except for the swaggering big shot rich guys who live very like royalty. In fact, once these guys reach this lofty status, they even receive a get-out-of-jail-forever card. Having the Air Force zip you home all the way across the continent in a flying Ferrari every weekend is just a small perk for this sort of fellow.
 
2012-04-17 02:01:42 PM
Move your family to DC, Leon. Problem solved
 
2012-04-17 02:02:45 PM
He shouldn't have to miss time with his family to do his job. It's not like thousands of servicemembers that work for him have to leave their families to train for weeks at a time or deploy for months at a time, over and over and over again. That never happens.
 
2012-04-17 02:02:54 PM

canyoneer: justinguarini4ever: This sounds ridiculous. The cost of the roundtrip actually doesn't bother me (frankly that's about what I expected). But why does he need to go home every weekend?

Because he's a swaggering big shot rich guy in a position of power, and this is 21st Century America, where there is no royalty except for the swaggering big shot rich guys who live very like royalty. In fact, once these guys reach this lofty status, they even receive a get-out-of-jail-forever card. Having the Air Force zip you home all the way across the continent in a flying Ferrari every weekend is just a small perk for this sort of fellow.


This.
 
2012-04-17 02:03:56 PM

skullkrusher: Move your family to DC, Leon. Problem solved


I don't think walnuts will grow very well in DC.
 
2012-04-17 02:05:53 PM
So, Leon Panetta's trips home are an outrage because the government needs that money to narrow the gaps in our budget.

But, enacting the Buffet rule is an outrage because its not enough money to completely close all the gaps in our budget.

Derp.
 
2012-04-17 02:06:20 PM

skullkrusher: Move your family to DC, Leon. Problem solved


His family are all trees. Moving them to Washington would be quite impossible. Why do you hate plant-Americans?
 
2012-04-17 02:06:25 PM

Freakman: He shouldn't have to miss time with his family to do his job. It's not like thousands of servicemembers that work for him have to leave their families to train for weeks at a time or deploy for months at a time, over and over and over again. That never happens.


Not to mention it'd be a lot cheaper for the federal government to simply pay for his divorce lawyers and therapists.
 
2012-04-17 02:07:49 PM

LarryDan43: bdub77: One hellfire missile: 70000.
Two Panetta trips: 64000.

The solution here is pretty obvious.

/get out of Afghanistan

Wrong, more taxcuts.


No. The solution is a Culture of Life Amendment.
 
2012-04-17 02:08:05 PM
Hey buddy, I gots an idea. psst, over here, says I gots an idea. Try this one on for size.

Lets stop waging war.
 
2012-04-17 02:08:25 PM

magusdevil: So, Leon Panetta's trips home are an outrage because the government needs that money to narrow the gaps in our budget.

But, enacting the Buffet rule is an outrage because its not enough money to completely close all the gaps in our budget.

Derp.


Wait what?
 
2012-04-17 02:08:43 PM

Dunnski: Spazmojack: Dunnski: BillCo: Hmmm... all of the Farklibs that usually flock to a politics thread seem to be strangely absent. I wonder why?

Sorry, I've been too busy aborting.

I've outsourced all my aborting to Mexican terrorists so I can spend more time fighting the War on Christmas. You should join up. It's a great cause.

As long as I can still work on my Acorn newsletters on the weekend...I'm in.


We will see. I can't guarantee anything without the consent of Dear Leader Premier General Secretary of the Central Planning Committee Grand Supreme Mullah Allah Walla Balla Bing Bang el Presidente Barry Sotero Barrack HUSSEIN Fartbongo.

/He's the decider
//'Cause he "decides" things.
 
2012-04-17 02:09:30 PM

T-Servo: BillCo: Hmmm... all of the Farklibs that usually flock to a politics thread seem to be strangely absent. I wonder why?

Maybe because it's not a partisan issue or something worth defending?


I don't know if you can make the claim that people are absent from a thread in the second post.
 
2012-04-17 02:10:28 PM

Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher: Also strangely absent is an offer to reimburse those expenses at all. It's almost like he doesn't regret it at all, and is just saying that so people will leave him alone.


Didn't RTFA, didya?

He has reimbursed the Treasury about $17,000 for the travel, based on a government formula, or about $630 per round trip.
 
2012-04-17 02:10:32 PM

skullkrusher: Move your family to DC, Leon. Problem solved


Or get your own goddamn plane tickets. Or suck it up and only see your family every 9 months. Hey, it's good enough for the military so it's good enough for you.
 
2012-04-17 02:12:57 PM

Beluga Heights: magusdevil: So, Leon Panetta's trips home are an outrage because the government needs that money to narrow the gaps in our budget.

But, enacting the Buffet rule is an outrage because its not enough money to completely close all the gaps in our budget.

Derp.

Wait what?


Let me esplain... I'm left of center. I actually do think spending 32K per trip to send this public servant home every single weekend is absurd (if not outrageous), I also think that enacting the Buffet Rule is a great idea.

If on the other hand you think the cost of these trips is outrageous(!) because they cost the Amurican Taxpayers so much money, but you think capital gains should be taxed at a significantly (ridiculously) lower rate than other earned income, you are not a serious person.
 
2012-04-17 02:13:07 PM
Move or lose your job, creep.
 
2012-04-17 02:13:23 PM

Walker: Maybe you should, I don't know, move your family to the DC area like every other person in the Federal Government does who works in Washington. Try Potomac, MD or across the river in McLean, VA. Those are the rich neighborhoods where most Congressmen and Cabinet members live.


Funny, when my SO got a job in DC, I moved to DC. And it wasn't even my farking job. Funny how the middle class has to uproot their lives and families to move across the country (from San Diego, in our case) to accommodate their jobs, but the wealthy don't have to do that.
 
2012-04-17 02:13:56 PM

PanicMan: Or get your own goddamn plane tickets.


He can't. As SECDEF, he's required to only fly on military aircraft with sufficient hardware that lets him keep in touch. The plane he's using is the cheapest one for the task.
 
2012-04-17 02:14:30 PM

qorkfiend: T-Servo: BillCo: Hmmm... all of the Farklibs that usually flock to a politics thread seem to be strangely absent. I wonder why?

Maybe because it's not a partisan issue or something worth defending?

I don't know if you can make the claim that people are absent from a thread in the second post.


That's like the 3rd or 4th green in the past week that someone from the Revised League of Fail has made that claim within the Boobiess.

If I were a cynic, I would think that someone decided that this was some type of winning strategy.
 
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