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(BBC)   Chaplain's Korean war heroics now have him simultaneously under consideration for the Medal of Honor and sainthood. Wow, way to blow the curve for the rest of us, padre   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 61
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2012-04-17 08:08:46 AM
And he did it all without speaking! That rascally tramp!
 
2012-04-17 08:13:52 AM
Jocularity, jocularity.
 
2012-04-17 08:14:56 AM
Approves...

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-04-17 08:15:44 AM
Six decades after his death, he is being considered for the Congressional Medal of Honor.

Fixed.
/pet peeve.
 
2012-04-17 08:17:26 AM
Too bad that Hitler moustache makes him look evil.
 
2012-04-17 08:18:04 AM
GypsyJoker: Jocularity, jocularity.

Came to say exact this. I love fark!
 
2012-04-17 08:18:44 AM
Am I to understand that your priest won a weekend in Tokyo with a nurse?

/it's a dream come true.
 
2012-04-17 08:19:29 AM
Ever notice how everyone in old timey pictures is thin?
 
2012-04-17 08:20:41 AM
GypsyJoker: Jocularity, jocularity.

Dammit. Beaten to the punch.
 
2012-04-17 08:20:50 AM
MemeSlave: Ever notice how everyone in old timey pictures is thin?

That's because they didn't invent the wide angle lens until 1963.
 
2012-04-17 08:28:43 AM
MemeSlave: Ever notice how everyone in old timey pictures is thin?

You mean....healthy?
 
2012-04-17 08:29:35 AM
Badass
 
2012-04-17 08:33:51 AM
MemeSlave: Ever notice how everyone in old timey pictures is thin?

You ever read much on the early days of the Korean war? Supply lines for our boys were stretched mighty thin, at times and eating regularly wasn't an option
 
2012-04-17 08:41:03 AM
For his heroism, a group of Kansas politicians are pushing to have him awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, America's highest military decoration.

I do hate it when politicians push to have people receive the MOH. Maybe it's just the fact that politicians are involved.

Also, seriously he got a DSC. That's not exactly a consolation prize. What's wrong with the DSC?
 
2012-04-17 08:41:34 AM
Having your pipe shot out of your mouth would be a total buzz kill.
 
2012-04-17 08:43:27 AM
And, the headline itself annoys me: "Recognition finally for a warrior priest's heroics". Really? He got recognized. A long time ago. He got a DSC.

Is this whole "everybody who was remotely brave should get a MOH" thing related to the whole "everybody should get a trophy for showing up" modern attitude or something?
 
2012-04-17 08:45:16 AM
Spade: For his heroism, a group of Kansas politicians are pushing to have him awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, America's highest military decoration.

I do hate it when politicians push to have people receive the MOH. Maybe it's just the fact that politicians are involved.

Also, seriously he got a DSC. That's not exactly a consolation prize. What's wrong with the DSC?


It doesn't measure up to his enormous brass balls. They have to give him a MOH AND sainthood, one for each round one.
 
2012-04-17 08:48:09 AM
MemeSlave: Ever notice how everyone in old timey pictures is thin?

Genetic modifying of food and reliance upon corn as a filler was still a couple decades away?
 
2012-04-17 08:55:36 AM
Wow...just wow.
 
2012-04-17 08:56:23 AM
That would put him in good company (new window)...

Civil War
John Milton Whitehead
Francis Bloodgood Hall
James Hill
Milton Lorenzi Haney
Boxer Rebellion
Calvin Pearl Titus
World War 2
Joseph Timothy O'Callahan
Vietnam
*Vincent Robert Capodanno
*Charles Joseph Watters
Charles James Angelo Liteky

*Posthumous


(And this list doesn't include the four Chaplains of the USAT Dorchester who should have gotten the Medal of Honor for their actions, IMO.)


Also 12 other Chaplaiins died as POWs in Korea.
 
2012-04-17 08:57:33 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Genetic modifying of food and reliance upon corn as a filler was still a couple decades away?

That, and eating like a pig. No matter how genetically modified a food is, or how intensive corn is used and even how your metabolism and hormones work, Reynolds transport theorem is always valid. So, you only fatten up if you shove food down your pie hole. The rest of the world also eats, and it doesn't exhibit the same obesity problem that the US does.
 
2012-04-17 09:04:07 AM
Magorn: MemeSlave: Ever notice how everyone in old timey pictures is thin?

You ever read much on the early days of the Korean war? Supply lines for our boys were stretched mighty thin, at times and eating regularly wasn't an option


Not only this, but military rations are not something you get fat and lazy on.
 
2012-04-17 09:04:36 AM
I hate how these stories usually say how they would "win" the medal. That and the Congressional part of it.

Still, it is a quite a life that man lived.
 
2012-04-17 09:05:13 AM
NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: MemeSlave: Ever notice how everyone in old timey pictures is thin?

You mean....healthy?


People cooked back then.

In particular, women cooked meals for their kids back then.

/restaurant food, even 5 star vegan, is pure poison
//Big Corn is a stupid waste of money, but it isn't killing you
///you're doing that by not learning to cook
 
2012-04-17 09:05:24 AM
MemeSlave: Ever notice how everyone in old timey pictures is thin?

It was before fast food when fruits and veggies were a main part of the diet. Meat was only eaten a few times a week. This country was built on the apple.
 
2012-04-17 09:06:57 AM
spentmiles: And he did it all without speaking! That rascally tramp!

Actually, he could say a lot sometimes.

The Great Dictator final speech (new window)
 
2012-04-17 09:08:30 AM
I yearn for you deeply.

Signed,

A.T. Tappman, Chaplain
 
2012-04-17 09:10:15 AM
MemeSlave: Ever notice how everyone in old timey pictures is thin?

You mean the people who grew up near starvation during the Great Depression and then fought in WWII and Korea? (and eventually died of starvation in this case) That is a pretty extreme diet plan you have there.
 
2012-04-17 09:11:04 AM
Ficoce: It was before fast food when fruits and veggies were a main part of the diet. Meat was only eaten a few times a week. This country was built on the apple.

You Steve Jobs fans are rewriting history now?
 
2012-04-17 09:15:12 AM
Just Arrived: I hate how these stories usually say how they would "win" the medal. That and the Congressional part of it.

Still, it is a quite a life that man lived.


There is brave and then there is what this guy did. To do something to risk life and limb in the heat of battle is very brave. But to sit and wait for the enemy, because you won't abandon wounded soldiers, knowing THE BEST you can hope for is to carted off to a North Korean prison camp? There just aren't words for that.
 
2012-04-17 09:16:10 AM

Is this him?

1.bp.blogspot.com

 
2012-04-17 09:19:13 AM
MythDragon: Six decades after his death, he is being considered for the Congressional Medal of Honor.

Fixed.
/pet peeve.


out of 3,458 American soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen who have wonawarded it.

They always get that wrong too. Its not the olympics there you journalists.
 
2012-04-17 09:26:48 AM
The Dictator of Tomania?
 
2012-04-17 09:28:06 AM
Since when do Americans surrender?
 
2012-04-17 09:28:26 AM
Magorn:
There is brave and then there is what this guy did. To do something to risk life and limb in the heat of battle is very brave. But to sit and wait for the enemy, because you won't abandon wounded soldiers, knowing THE BEST you can hope for is to carted off to a North Korean prison camp? There just aren't words for that.


giant clanking brass balls doesn't quite seem adequate when you put it that way
 
2012-04-17 09:28:30 AM
They should give him a Medal Of Honor for going into New York and freeing the Presidents daughter. And that shiat he did in LA was pretty amazing too.


RIP SNAKE PLISKIN
 
2012-04-17 09:56:54 AM
FTA: "When the chips were down, Father proved himself to be the greatest example of manhood I've ever seen in my life."

That
is the example I wish I could find on a more regular basis in the Church.
 
2012-04-17 10:02:20 AM
FormlessOne: FTA: "When the chips were down, Father proved himself to be the greatest example of manhood I've ever seen in my life."

That is the example I wish I could find on a more regular basis in the Church.


Sad thing is, a small amount of bad tarnishes all the good. There are many many good men, just as brave and strong as this man, who will go without recognition cause of the black stain.

There is no news like bad news in the media's eyes. Still pissed off the media down here made it sound like a girl who was murdered was to blame over the person who killed her.
 
2012-04-17 10:12:42 AM
beta_plus: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: MemeSlave: Ever notice how everyone in old timey pictures is thin?

You mean....healthy?

People cooked back then.

In particular, women cooked meals for their kids back then.

/restaurant food, even 5 star vegan, is pure poison
//Big Corn is a stupid waste of money, but it isn't killing you
///you're doing that by not learning to cook


Smaller portion sizes, less additives to foods, more exercise...yeah, they're generally thinner than they are now...
 
2012-04-17 10:12:54 AM
I thought that to become a saint, there had to be two proven miracles...what were his miracles?
 
2012-04-17 10:14:36 AM
FormlessOne: FTA: "When the chips were down, Father proved himself to be the greatest example of manhood I've ever seen in my life."

That is the example I wish I could find on a more regular basis in the Church.


It seemed to me that when I was kid there was a lot more of that going 'round the church. I think a lot of the residual affection I have for my natal church comes from my experiences as a kid with priests like Father "Doug" an ex-army Ranger with an incredible gift for connecting with kids and young adults. So gifted in fact that the priesthood lost him when his natural desire to have kids of his own caused him to seek release from his vows. *sigh* A damn good father now, though, from what I hear, even if he isn't still a Father...
 
2012-04-17 10:20:40 AM
JSieverts: I thought that to become a saint, there had to be two proven miracles...what were his miracles?

Yeah they kinda forgot about that.
 
2012-04-17 10:21:23 AM
Magorn: FormlessOne: FTA: "When the chips were down, Father proved himself to be the greatest example of manhood I've ever seen in my life."

That is the example I wish I could find on a more regular basis in the Church.

It seemed to me that when I was kid there was a lot more of that going 'round the church. I think a lot of the residual affection I have for my natal church comes from my experiences as a kid with priests like Father "Doug" an ex-army Ranger with an incredible gift for connecting with kids and young adults. So gifted in fact that the priesthood lost him when his natural desire to have kids of his own caused him to seek release from his vows. *sigh* A damn good father now, though, from what I hear, even if he isn't still a Father...


I grew up in a Southern Baptist Church, still go to the very same one, and we had gifted children pastors come and go. And as I grew up, I still keep in touch with the ones helped me mature into a good natured man I am today. And they always had their own kids too. Even when life hit them really hard, one lost his wife to a hereditary disease. He still is a pastor in his own church, raising his three sons on his own.
 
2012-04-17 10:21:23 AM
JSieverts: I thought that to become a saint, there had to be two proven miracles...what were his miracles?

The Miracles have to be post-mortem, that's what the church is investigating now. They have a formal process that he's on step one of. (It's where we get the term "devil's advocate" from, one of the investigating committee has the job of coming up with all the reasons he SHOULDN'T be a saint)
 
2012-04-17 10:25:19 AM
The Korean War seems to be all but forgotten, but goddamn does it sound like one huge cluster.
 
2012-04-17 10:37:11 AM
This selflessness we can all aspire to immulate in our daily relationships with others
 
2012-04-17 10:44:00 AM
Magorn: MemeSlave: Ever notice how everyone in old timey pictures is thin?

You ever read much on the early days of the Korean war? Supply lines for our boys were stretched mighty thin, at times and eating regularly wasn't an option


In the video he complains in a pre-capture letter complaining about no food for two days and no water for one. That's some shiatty supply lines.

But also, it sounds like he was the kind of person who can't stand sitting still. He apparently insisted on doing a bunch of manual labor around the church because that's how he grew up on the farm, and wrote home that he found the long Army marches invigorating.
 
2012-04-17 11:09:19 AM
MemeSlave: Ever notice how everyone in old timey pictures is thin?

The average American military recruit in WWI was smaller (height and weight) than the corresponding soldier in the Civil War. Nutrition would only get worse in the Great Depression. Vast swaths of the country turned out draftees unfit for military service in 1941 -- The TVA region as almost entirely useless from a soldier-standpoint.

Things started to turn around by the end of WWII. By the end of Vietnam, the average soldier started to plateau in height. Basically, until the late 1970s, the average American adult had their growth stunted by inadequate nutrition, severely so in the case of early 20th century adults. Those pictures reflect famine, not health.
 
2012-04-17 11:34:52 AM
bravo zulu padre, from a sailor to a ground-pounder.
 
2012-04-17 11:51:43 AM
Must have been rough in prison camp, what with the lack of little boys to molest.

:-D

/I kid!
//No Medal of Honor, however.
///Do not second guess those who awarded him the DSC.
 
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