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(ABC)   Finally realizing the error of her ways, with deep remorse Ann Romney apologizes to dog-lovers everywhere for strapping the dog to the top of the car on long trips. Just kidding, she doubles down, saying the dog loved it   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 281
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2012-04-17 10:49:33 AM  
Seriously, back of pickup truck vs roof top carrier. Pickup truck comes to stop - dog leaps out and is struck by traffic and killed. Pickup truck scenario two: Owner tether dog go prevent dog from escaping, dog still tries to escape and hangs himself.

Perhaps the Romney haters should do investigative reporting with the neighbors to see if the dog acted like an abused pet? Haters just wanna hate. BTW - the dog ate the turkey from off the counter to get the shiats.
 
2012-04-17 10:49:48 AM  

s2s2s2: No.
Because she is tiny and likes to ride in my lap.



But dogs love road wind in their faces, right? Why don't you strap her to the roof for some fun?
 
2012-04-17 10:50:58 AM  
Have any Romney apologists in here actually strapped a kennel to the roof of their car with a dog inside for a multi-hour drive? Not in a pickup bed--in a kennel on the roof. Would you consider such an action? We have dogsagainstromney.com/. Where's the strapyourdogtotheroof.com? Boston to the border of Ontario takes 6.5 hours. Show us how happy Seamus was with your own pet. Put up or shut up. Nothing to worry about, right?
 
2012-04-17 10:51:25 AM  

s2s2s2:

Carth: Does your dog defecate in fear when it is happy?

Does your sentence make sense when it doesn't make sense?


Romney's dog defecated in terror while being strapped to the roof of his car making it highly unlikely he was okay with being up there. What was Romney's response when he realized this? Did he decide "Hey, let me put my luggage on the roof instead" and bring the scared dog in the car. No, he hosed off the crap and went right back to driving and the dog did it again.
 
2012-04-17 10:51:25 AM  
I see nothing wrong with the dog cage on the roof. I would turn it so the dog wasn't blasted by the wind.

My mother used to say it was cruel to haul horses in horse trailers because grit could get in their eyes.
 
2012-04-17 10:52:44 AM  

zepher: I guess something harmless Romney did to a dog 20 years ago is somehow relevant but Obama learning at the feet of an admitted terrorist and sitting in a black power church for 20 years doesn't count.


Probably because most of the people who complain about what CHURCH Obama went to also say he's a MUSLIM. Y'know, the same people whose house of worship is called a "mosque" and not a "church" or "synagogue" or anything else?

Of course, if you can somehow explain how going to a church for 20 years whose pastor once said "God damn America" is the same as animal cruelty, I'd be happy to hear it.
 
2012-04-17 10:54:14 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: But dogs love road wind in their faces, right?


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Marley does

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2012-04-17 10:54:24 AM  
Why do we give a flying fark about this? It's funny that this has become a talking point for the election.

Not national debt, military spending, or unemployment, but how a candidate transported their dog on vacation. Can't wait for the election to be over so we don't have to hear about this shiat anymore.
 
2012-04-17 10:55:58 AM  

WTFDYW: What's the difference between riding in a carrier on the roof and riding in the bed of a pick up truck?

F*CKING NONE

/stupidest farking thing to argue about that i've seen for awhile.


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Clearly none.
 
2012-04-17 10:58:10 AM  

funk_soul_bubby: Pets are like kids. Everybody has their own way to take care of them, and everyone tends to take issue with everyone else's method.


And there are definite lines that can be crossed, which bring the law into play.

And there are definite gray areas where most people look and say "that just don't seem right".

Dog on the roof... maybe I could buy that it enjoyed it, although you're on the edge of the gray line now. On the freeway... okay, inching a bit farthere over... Spraying it down with a hose to clean off feces, okay, now you're on the other far edge of the damn gray line.
 
2012-04-17 10:58:31 AM  
Riding in the bed of a pickup truck or in a carrier on the roof are both things dangerous for pets and to be avoided when possible, especially on long drives.
 
2012-04-17 10:58:44 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: HotWingConspiracy: But dogs love road wind in their faces, right?

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Marley does

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You should strap him the roof for six hours, he'll have a blast.
 
2012-04-17 10:59:20 AM  
The Butler did it!

/or was it the nanny?
 
2012-04-17 11:00:08 AM  
Personally I hate even putting my skiis on the roof of the car for fear that they will get blown off. But I honestly don't give a shiat about this, except in the context of how it fills out the picture that we have of Romney. He really does seem like someone who has a lot of trouble putting himself in anyone else's shoes. If it were limited to his pets I wouldn't care at all, but it seems like he really does not understand at all what the problem is with being a multimillionaire and paying 15% on taxes when middle class people have to pay much more.

There are plenty of other reasons not to vote for him though. This and his wife's status as a stay at home mother barely weigh in.
 
2012-04-17 11:02:16 AM  
As someone who owns a grooming shop/pet supply store, I'm getting a kick out of these replies. Irish Setters are beautiful dogs but seriously high strung. I remember reading this story in Newsweek and being appalled. He used it as an example of good judgment under pressure. That dog had an ass geyser of fear then was hosed off at a gas station with cold water and slapped back on the roof. Apparently the dog ran away when they opened the crate in Canada and it's now a charming part of their family lore. I like Ann's added detail that the dog got turkey off of the counter AND that's why he got sick. Sure Ann, that's an amazing memory you have. http://www.dogsagainstromney.com/2012/01/urgent-crate-gate-update-did- mitt.html
 
2012-04-17 11:03:54 AM  
Maybe the dog likes it.
 
2012-04-17 11:05:00 AM  
And when they metaphorically strap the poor and middle class to the roof of the wealthy as make a wealth grab, they'll believe you love it too.

They'll push some family values on you while and pat themselves on the back for the good deed, and half of you actually will love it.
 
2012-04-17 11:06:01 AM  

Honest Bender: Maybe the dog likes it.


Probably wouldn't have shiat itself if that were true.
 
2012-04-17 11:06:23 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: You should strap him the roof for six hours, he'll have a blast.


He's a she. And she loves riding in the back of the pickup.

You know, of all of the things for you guys to get your knickers in a knot, this is probably one of the dumber ones. Not a single person here knows the situation but acts like they were there and witnessed the entire incident from start to finish. Why not biatch about him being rich instead. At least you can be sure that you have that fact straight.
 
2012-04-17 11:06:58 AM  
For me, the issue isn't that the dog suffered by riding on top of the car -- if it was an enclosed carrier and wasn't being pummeled by the wind for hours on end. What I take issue with is the potential for problems:

1) Nothing is as secure on top of a vehicle as it is inside that vehicle. If the carrier comes loose and flies off of the car at 70 mph, the dog is a goner. Why are there laws against strapping children on top of vehicles if it's safe?

2) There is no way to monitor the well-being of any living creature when it is not in the car with the humans. On top of the car, in the trunk, in a trailer... If there's a problem with the dog, you're not going to have any idea. Unless, of course, it sh**s all over the windshield.

If you wouldn't strap a child to the top of a car, then don't strap your dog to the top of a car. Now, of course people will say that it's not a child, it's just an animal. Well, it's a family pet. It's not livestock. It's a member of the family that supposedly some people in the family have feelings for. Hell, I wouldn't put a goldfish on top of my car. If I cared that little about the goldfish, I wouldn't have one.

Now, do I think this is an important issue? It is for the Romney's dogs. It is for other dog owners who, for some reason, own dogs but treat them like objects. But is it important in terms of the presidency? No. I have many other reasons for disliking Romney. If this was the only strike against him, so what? But it's one of many strikes, and that's the problem.
 
2012-04-17 11:07:26 AM  
Pigs obviously aren't the intelligent and personable animals that dogs are but I bet many of you would at least bat an eyelash if you saw the conditions in which they are live-transported over long distances to arrive fresh on dinner tables around the world. Just saying and all. A little perspective is sometimes good.
 
2012-04-17 11:07:30 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: HotWingConspiracy: You should strap him the roof for six hours, he'll have a blast.

He's a she. And she loves riding in the back of the pickup.


Cool. Now try strapped to the roof for 6 hours and report back to me.
 
2012-04-17 11:07:32 AM  
this dog is part of Willard's family and family is 'off limits'... besides he's had some medical scares in the past... had his balls removed... I'm sure even nopokerface can relate to that.
 
2012-04-17 11:11:37 AM  
She should get a job.
 
2012-04-17 11:14:17 AM  
It's probably better than being in the car with that brood all hepped up on Caffeine Free Diet Coke, playing the license plate game and listening to Mitt's stories.
 
2012-04-17 11:15:06 AM  
Several issues:

1.) Shut the hell up you lying twunt.

2.) It's my understanding that the carrier had a windshield; these are specially designed for long, high speed trips. The dog was fine on other trips, and there's nothing inhumane about those carriers unless the temperature is low.

3.) The dog DID have a gastro problem on that trip, which can be caused by terror or by something more serious, and the proper thing to have done was to get him checked by a vet to ensure he was okay. And they can afford that.
 
2012-04-17 11:16:22 AM  
If its safe, why not put the kids up there?
 
2012-04-17 11:16:23 AM  
At least we can actually understand what she is saying, unlike Callista Gingrich's squawks of "CAW CAW! CAW CAW! SQURAAAAWWWWWK!!" and occasional cloud of fluffy down & dander whenever she flaps her arms.
 
2012-04-17 11:17:21 AM  

Rapmaster2000: playing the license plate game


JWO 482

"Just walk it off"

"Jerry went overboard"

"Judges want oatmeal"

/oh what fun times!
 
2012-04-17 11:17:28 AM  

nopokerface: How many people really think travelling in a dog carrier is inhumane?

Now, how many of those people have had their dog transported on a commercial flight in a dog carrier?



Was the dog strapped to the top of the plane? This detail makes all the difference.
 
2012-04-17 11:17:32 AM  
Guess we will all be riding on the roof of his car and getting sprayed with a hose soon, and loving it...
 
2012-04-17 11:19:03 AM  

Rashnu: Pigs obviously aren't the intelligent and personable animals that dogs are but I bet many of you would at least bat an eyelash if you saw the conditions in which they are live-transported over long distances to arrive fresh on dinner tables around the world. Just saying and all. A little perspective is sometimes good.


Pigs are extremely intelligent and very personable animals. Too bad they are also delicious
 
2012-04-17 11:20:21 AM  
Her derp goes to 11. Always double down on 11.

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/BTW- The GIS for "swingers double down" is quite entertaining
 
2012-04-17 11:20:50 AM  

TV's Vinnie: nopokerface: How many people really think travelling in a dog carrier is inhumane?

Now, how many of those people have had their dog transported on a commercial flight in a dog carrier?


Was the dog strapped to the top of the plane? This detail makes all the difference.


They have a habit of putting them in the non-temperature controlled cargo area of the plane.

This detail makes all the difference.
 
2012-04-17 11:21:50 AM  
In a 2007 blog written during Romney's first campaign for the presidency, Ann Romney said the dog rode "in an enclosed kennel, not in the open air" and compared the experience with a person riding on a motorcycle or roller coaster.

Roller coasters are supposed to be scary. You wouldn't necessarily want to be strapped to one continuously for 6 hours.
 
2012-04-17 11:22:26 AM  
She's good up to about 40 mph. After that, it's paws on dash.

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2012-04-17 11:23:18 AM  
Rich people. They so funny. And so above it all unless they absolutely need to get down amongst the filth in order to get what they're drooling for.

There's a reason she's groveling for votes. And it isn't because she wants to serve this country.
 
2012-04-17 11:23:59 AM  
When did the term "double down," make it's debut, besides in blackjack?
I'm putting it up there with the people that say,"dude," and "mybad."
 
2012-04-17 11:24:27 AM  

clancifer: Please remember that Ann Romney is 100% off limits, no matter how much the campaign uses her.


I wondered what dirt would be found.

Keep digging. These peoples lives aren't completely ruined, yet.
 
2012-04-17 11:25:20 AM  

nopokerface: TV's Vinnie: nopokerface: How many people really think travelling in a dog carrier is inhumane?

Now, how many of those people have had their dog transported on a commercial flight in a dog carrier?


Was the dog strapped to the top of the plane? This detail makes all the difference.

They have a habit of putting them in the non-temperature controlled cargo area of the plane.

This detail makes all the difference.


At 30,000 feet the outside temperature is -30F not many dogs would survive if you were right. Now before you respond "yes but the cargo area is pressurized!" If the area is pressurized without air conditioning the temperate would be 130F again the dog wouldn't survive.
 
2012-04-17 11:25:48 AM  

Salt Lick Steady: Several issues:

1.) Shut the hell up you lying twunt.

2.) It's my understanding that the carrier had a windshield; these are specially designed for long, high speed trips. The dog was fine on other trips, and there's nothing inhumane about those carriers unless the temperature is low.

3.) The dog DID have a gastro problem on that trip, which can be caused by terror or by something more serious, and the proper thing to have done was to get him checked by a vet to ensure he was okay. And they can afford that.


From a 2007 article:

"Before beginning the drive, Mitt Romney put Seamus, the family's hulking Irish setter, in a dog carrier and attached it to the station wagon's roof rack. He'd built a windshield for the carrier, to make the ride more comfortable for the dog," read the article.

Is there such a thing as a dog carrier with a windshield built-in that's designed for a car roof? I see motorcycle options.
 
2012-04-17 11:26:01 AM  

Gumaraid: Guess we will all be riding on the roof of his car and getting sprayed with a hose soon, and loving it...


www.thegrio.com
"Yes, please."
 
2012-04-17 11:26:33 AM  
My asshole step father used to haul hunting dogs--and our family pet--in the trunk. Other people in the Shoney's parking lot that that was awesome.

In 1980 infant car seats were not widely in use, and safety belts needed to be pushed down in between the seats so as to stop poking into your hip.

The correct answer, Mrs. Romney, is that we know more about road safety in the 21st century, and it's hard believe we Americans had such weird standards back then. Gah.
 
2012-04-17 11:27:04 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Now try strapped to the roof for 6 hours and report back to me.


We have never crated her and don't intend to but I know many people who do crate their animals for travel especially for air travel where the animals can be in a box for hour on end and in a cold, dark, noisy cargo hold.

But hey. You were there and have all the facts. Who am I to question your veracity?
 
2012-04-17 11:28:44 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: HotWingConspiracy: Now try strapped to the roof for 6 hours and report back to me.

We have never crated her and don't intend to but I know many people who do crate their animals for travel especially for air travel where the animals can be in a box for hour on end and in a cold, dark, noisy cargo hold.

But hey. You were there and have all the facts. Who am I to question your veracity?


Just using the facts they Romneys admit to it is pretty horrible. I imagine if anyone actually had "all the facts" it would likely be worst.
 
2012-04-17 11:29:15 AM  

Wendolyn the Wired: The correct answer, Mrs. Romney, is that we know more about road safety in the 21st century, and it's hard believe we Americans had such weird standards back then. Gah.


This is the way to go. With the path she's on now, and maybe there's more interview that's missing, It is interesting to note that she doesn't even mention the possibility of putting the animal in the farking car. "Bringing him along" equates to "roof trip".
 
2012-04-17 11:29:52 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: HotWingConspiracy: Now try strapped to the roof for 6 hours and report back to me.

We have never crated her (and strapped her to the roof for 6 hours) and don't intend to


Why not? Anne says it's fun. Are you calling her a liar?
 
2012-04-17 11:30:00 AM  
There is a turkey in this story, but I don't think the dog ate it.
 
2012-04-17 11:30:41 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: HotWingConspiracy: You should strap him the roof for six hours, he'll have a blast.

He's a she. And she loves riding in the back of the pickup.

You know, of all of the things for you guys to get your knickers in a knot, this is probably one of the dumber ones. Not a single person here knows the situation but acts like they were there and witnessed the entire incident from start to finish. Why not biatch about him being rich instead. At least you can be sure that you have that fact straight.


Regardless of how happy your dog is riding in the bed of your truck (and I'm sure she does enjoy it), I for one would never go on a long trip with a dog strapped to the roof. I would always keep the dogs inside. If they weren't able to do so without befouling the car, then I'd kennel them or *not go*.

Whether the Romney's dog enjoyed it or not isn't the major issue - it's the response from people who personally think it's a horrible way to treat your dog. He really seems to smile and celebrate (and doubles down) doing something that many find cruel. Cruel is in the eyes of the beholder ("I know it when I see it") and Romney's inability to see how uncomfortable it makes many people highlights what many see is his general lack of empathy.

Gawd, If I told that story, and got the reaction it's gotten, I would apoligize the next time it came up ("At the time it seemed okay, and the dog was all right with it, but I can see how some people would not feel the same way. If I had to do it over again, I probably wouldn't do the same thing").

Nope, he's fine with it, to the point of chiding people for continuing to bring it up. Are you that deaf that you don't see how the whole episode makes people uncomfortable? And what does that deafness say about someone who is asking us to make him Leader of the Free World? We're just supposed to hope he doesn't pull any boners like that when he's in charge?

bmj2k.files.wordpress.com


\boners
 
2012-04-17 11:31:14 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: HotWingConspiracy: Now try strapped to the roof for 6 hours and report back to me.

We have never crated her and don't intend to but I know many people who do crate their animals for travel especially for air travel where the animals can be in a box for hour on end and in a cold, dark, noisy cargo hold.

But hey. You were there and have all the facts. Who am I to question your veracity?


Crating your animal is actually the safest way for both you and the animal to travel. Putting it on the roof until it craps itself in fear is the stupid and cruel part.
 
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