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(EITB)   The world braces for more clasico fever, the greatest soccer match ever..Real Madrid and Barcelona's titanic duel to be crowned kings of Spain, a potential decider for the championship and a new duel between Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo   (eitb.com) divider line 118
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2012-04-17 10:31:30 AM  
4-1 Barca
 
2012-04-17 10:39:26 AM  
Hey, Barcalona -- It's pretty clear that this is what's important so let's just go ahead and rest up a few players tomorrow. You don't need Messi, for instance. Oh, and it might be a good time to give Valdés the day off.
 
2012-04-17 10:55:51 AM  
Dear sweet jeebus please don't let there be a Clasico final
 
2012-04-17 10:58:51 AM  
Already counting out Bayern and Chelsea?
bad subby.
 
2012-04-17 11:05:47 AM  
I'm a fan of soccer. Not a hardcore fan, but I enjoy watching the game, and I'm getting more and more into MLS every year.

But I have to ask Euro fans this: don't you get tired of the same 2-3 teams being the best every single year?

Premier League Champions (new window) - Pretty much Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool all the way down, with a sparse Chelsea coming up recently.

La Liga Champions (new window) - Basically Barca and Real Madrid with a sparse team here and there.

I just don't know how you can enjoy it when your team has absolutely no chance (assuming you don't cheer for one of the perennial contenders). I don't mean to offend, I'm genuinely curious. Like if you're a fan of the Blackburn Rovers, do you just go into the season saying, "We can't compete with the top teams, but I'll watch them anyways"?

I mean, I get fan loyalty and watching your team play no matter what, but don't you at least want a chance to win?
 
2012-04-17 11:14:36 AM  

Apples01: Premier League Champions (new window) - Pretty much Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool all the way down, with a sparse Chelsea coming up recently.


BAhahahahaah....sorry, had to laugh. Blackburn has won the league more recently than Liverpool.

Also, I think Subby's referring to this Saturday El Clasico rather than the Champions League, which begs the question...how is there an El Clasico thread before CL threads?
 
2012-04-17 11:17:46 AM  
Im as excited for El Clasico as anyone, but isn't it a bit early for this subs? (Barça 2-1 Madrid.)
 
2012-04-17 11:18:29 AM  

Apples01: I'm a fan of soccer. Not a hardcore fan, but I enjoy watching the game, and I'm getting more and more into MLS every year.

But I have to ask Euro fans this: don't you get tired of the same 2-3 teams being the best every single year?

Premier League Champions (new window) - Pretty much Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool all the way down, with a sparse Chelsea coming up recently.

La Liga Champions (new window) - Basically Barca and Real Madrid with a sparse team here and there.

I just don't know how you can enjoy it when your team has absolutely no chance (assuming you don't cheer for one of the perennial contenders). I don't mean to offend, I'm genuinely curious. Like if you're a fan of the Blackburn Rovers, do you just go into the season saying, "We can't compete with the top teams, but I'll watch them anyways"?

I mean, I get fan loyalty and watching your team play no matter what, but don't you at least want a chance to win?


The same thing happens in the US. Right now, in the MLB the season just started and honestly only about 8-10 teams have a chance to win the championship. In the NBA, we've got what, 6 or 7 teams with a chance to win?
 
2012-04-17 11:19:57 AM  

Apples01: I'm a fan of soccer. Not a hardcore fan, but I enjoy watching the game, and I'm getting more and more into MLS every year.

But I have to ask Euro fans this: don't you get tired of the same 2-3 teams being the best every single year?

Premier League Champions (new window) - Pretty much Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool all the way down, with a sparse Chelsea coming up recently.

La Liga Champions (new window) - Basically Barca and Real Madrid with a sparse team here and there.

I just don't know how you can enjoy it when your team has absolutely no chance (assuming you don't cheer for one of the perennial contenders). I don't mean to offend, I'm genuinely curious. Like if you're a fan of the Blackburn Rovers, do you just go into the season saying, "We can't compete with the top teams, but I'll watch them anyways"?

I mean, I get fan loyalty and watching your team play no matter what, but don't you at least want a chance to win?


Support Bayern Müchen and watch the Bundesliga. Im a big fan of Spanish soccer, but I really enjoy Germany too. Perhaps more. Its easily the most exciting and competitive top league in Europe.
 
2012-04-17 11:23:40 AM  
The same thing happens in the US. Right now, in the MLB the season just started and honestly only about 8-10 teams have a chance to win the championship. In the NBA, we've got what, 6 or 7 teams with a chance to win?

It happens in the US on a seasonal basis, but not for decades at a time.

Other than the NBA which is dependent on the performance of very few star players, in the NHL, NFL, & MLB the champions change a lot from season to season.

I like watching La Liga and the EPL, but it's true, the actual standings are pointless to follow. That's why the need playoffs.
 
2012-04-17 11:26:09 AM  

meanmutton: The same thing happens in the US. Right now, in the MLB the season just started and honestly only about 8-10 teams have a chance to win the championship. In the NBA, we've got what, 6 or 7 teams with a chance to win?


In the last 11 seasons, there have been 9 different World Series champions. There's definitely parity there, any team has a chance to go on a run and win any year.

I agree with you on the NBA, though. Which is one reason I'm not a fan of the league.
 
2012-04-17 11:29:50 AM  
I am going to hate myself a little for rooting for Chelsea, but I am getting sick of Barca winning every damn thing.
 
2012-04-17 11:35:37 AM  
Please don't let UCL be another Classico that would be so boring...
 
2012-04-17 11:36:01 AM  

Apples01: meanmutton: The same thing happens in the US. Right now, in the MLB the season just started and honestly only about 8-10 teams have a chance to win the championship. In the NBA, we've got what, 6 or 7 teams with a chance to win?

In the last 11 seasons, there have been 9 different World Series champions. There's definitely parity there, any team has a chance to go on a run and win any year.

I agree with you on the NBA, though. Which is one reason I'm not a fan of the league.


The great thing about football is that there are multiple goals a team can achieve. Lower league sides always battle to make it to the premier league. Then there are the numerous cups a team can win. Any league team can win the FA Cup and Carling Cup.

mid table sides can be playing for European spots, which then would bring about a new tournament they have a chance of winning.

When you think about it, any team can win the league. It's a marathon.
 
2012-04-17 11:36:04 AM  

Apples01: meanmutton: The same thing happens in the US. Right now, in the MLB the season just started and honestly only about 8-10 teams have a chance to win the championship. In the NBA, we've got what, 6 or 7 teams with a chance to win?

In the last 11 seasons, there have been 9 different World Series champions. There's definitely parity there, any team has a chance to go on a run and win any year.

I agree with you on the NBA, though. Which is one reason I'm not a fan of the league.


My response was addressing the "how do you watch the game when you know your team can't win" point. There is basically zero chance for the about a dozen MLB teams to make the playoffs, let alone win the championship. Those teams will still sell millions of tickets.
 
2012-04-17 11:38:53 AM  
Considering the love Barcelona and Chelsea have gotten from officials lately, this should prove an intersting match up. However, not suprising if Barcelona gets the UEFA favortism as usual. What happened against AC Milan was borderline laughable.
 
2012-04-17 12:35:08 PM  
KaisertheCoyote: Support Bayern Müchen and watch the Bundesliga. Im a big fan of Spanish soccer, but I really enjoy Germany too. Perhaps more. Its easily the most exciting and competitive top league in Europe.

And they got a new TV-Deal (pops).

I'm afraid we'll have a Clasico CL final. I don't like any of the four teams, but I'm going with Bayern. But I wonder which is worse for them: Not playing the final at home, or losing the final at home.
 
2012-04-17 12:37:42 PM  
Yeah. Huge duel for Spanish soccer between an Italian and a Portuguese guy.
 
2012-04-17 12:40:05 PM  
Once I was the King of Spain....
 
2012-04-17 12:44:00 PM  

TonnageVT: The great thing about football is that there are multiple goals a team can achieve. Lower league sides always battle to make it to the premier league. Then there are the numerous cups a team can win. Any league team can win the FA Cup and Carling Cup.

mid table sides can be playing for European spots, which then would bring about a new tournament they have a chance of winning.

When you think about it, any team can win the league. It's a marathon.


To add to this, the top leagues in european soccer only have 20 teams each, instead of 30+ like american sports. So the top half can usually realistically go for the title or a european spot (except for la liga, but no other league has to play against real madrid/barca), and the bottom half is playing to avoid relegation. In the 2nd level of english soccer, there're playoff spots for promotion instead of european spots. So there's almost always something to play for, and the result of almost every game is meaningful.
 
2012-04-17 12:46:35 PM  

bainsguy: Yeah. Huge duel for Spanish soccer between an Italian and a Portuguese guy.


Italian? Messi's Argentinian (if you're talking about Christiano Ronaldo), and Guardiola is Spanish (if you're talking about Jose Mourinho).
 
2012-04-17 01:08:57 PM  

stanhapsburg: KaisertheCoyote: Support Bayern Müchen and watch the Bundesliga. Im a big fan of Spanish soccer, but I really enjoy Germany too. Perhaps more. Its easily the most exciting and competitive top league in Europe.

And they got a new TV-Deal (pops).

I'm afraid we'll have a Clasico CL final. I don't like any of the four teams, but I'm going with Bayern. But I wonder which is worse for them: Not playing the final at home, or losing the final at home.


I think all the "neutrals" are going to be cheering for Bayern from here on in. Something about hating Barca/Madrid/Chelsea...but also the beauty of possibly playing for the Championship in their home ground.
 
2012-04-17 01:09:50 PM  

bainsguy: Yeah. Huge duel for Spanish soccer between an Italian and a Portuguese guy.


nice try...the argentines would like a word with you.
 
2012-04-17 01:16:49 PM  

TonnageVT: which begs the question


A) No it doesn't...

B)This game is NOT the greatest soccer match ever. It follows the same damn script every time. Barca goes up by 3, Real Madrid's entitlement kicks in and they start thuggishly taking out the players they just can't seem to stop. 2 - 3 red cards are issued MAYBE The chosen One gets a fine or two and at the end of the day, BloodFireDeath comes in and claims that the refs were bought by Barca money and the whole of La Liga is against the far superior team of RM.
 
2012-04-17 01:21:06 PM  

ScouserDuck: A) No it doesn't...


I was begging..

.

ScouserDuck: BloodFireDeath comes in and claims that the refs were bought by Barca money and the whole of La Liga is against the far superior team of RM.


I thought he was a Milan supporter?
 
2012-04-17 01:27:05 PM  

TonnageVT: ScouserDuck: A) No it doesn't...

I was begging..

.ScouserDuck: BloodFireDeath comes in and claims that the refs were bought by Barca money and the whole of La Liga is against the far superior team of RM.

I thought he was a Milan supporter?


Everytime I see him post, he puts up a trolltasic La Liga > EPL and RM >>>> Barca comment that I seem to be the only one that Bites on.

Every.
Single.
Time.

I know that I shouldn't. But it's the type of stuff that stirs up the type of rage that keeps me out of the politics tab and I can't help myself.
 
2012-04-17 01:28:56 PM  

ScouserDuck: Everytime I see him post, he puts up a trolltasic La Liga > EPL and RM >>>> Barca comment that I seem to be the only one that Bites on.

Every.
Single.
Time.

I know that I shouldn't. But it's the type of stuff that stirs up the type of rage that keeps me out of the politics tab and I can't help myself.


You could always ignore him...just sayin' like.
 
2012-04-17 01:55:32 PM  

MugzyBrown: 4-1 Barca


This, and Messi with a brace to take the lead in the scoring race.
 
2012-04-17 01:56:16 PM  

TheKnownUniverse: Dear sweet jeebus please don't let there be a Clasico final


Only because Jose will put all 10 behind the ball for 120 minutes.
 
2012-04-17 02:01:37 PM  

Rwa2play: all 10


awkwardlistdotcom.files.wordpress.com

Oh, I get it. Cause RM will have a red card before the match even starts.

I'll allow it.
 
2012-04-17 02:08:16 PM  

ScouserDuck: Rwa2play: all 10

[awkwardlistdotcom.files.wordpress.com image 400x300]

Oh, I get it. Cause RM will have a red card before the match even starts.

I'll allow it.


lulz.
 
2012-04-17 02:12:29 PM  

Apples01: I'm a fan of soccer. Not a hardcore fan, but I enjoy watching the game, and I'm getting more and more into MLS every year.

But I have to ask Euro fans this: don't you get tired of the same 2-3 teams being the best every single year?

Premier League Champions (new window) - Pretty much Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool all the way down, with a sparse Chelsea coming up recently.

La Liga Champions (new window) - Basically Barca and Real Madrid with a sparse team here and there.

I just don't know how you can enjoy it when your team has absolutely no chance (assuming you don't cheer for one of the perennial contenders). I don't mean to offend, I'm genuinely curious. Like if you're a fan of the Blackburn Rovers, do you just go into the season saying, "We can't compete with the top teams, but I'll watch them anyways"?

I mean, I get fan loyalty and watching your team play no matter what, but don't you at least want a chance to win?


For me, I enjoy following the relegation/promotion battles at the bottom of the league & among the lower leagues far more than the title run in the top leagues--and if you're a fan of Blackburn Rovers, that's what you're cheering for, even if they're currently in deep, deep trouble of dropping down. The whole system of going up/down in league tables is something you just can't find in any of the major American leagues in any sport (where coming in dead-last even has some potential rewards over other non-contenders due to the assignment of draft pick order). For me, the final day at the bottom of last season's English Premier League was no less exciting/entertaining than the final day of last season's MLB, for instance, even if what the teams from the two sports were playing for was quite different.

ScouserDuck: I know that I shouldn't. But it's the type of stuff that stirs up the type of rage that keeps me out of the politics tab and I can't help myself.


If I had a nickle for every time I thought of replying to that guy's posts and then thought better of it at the last moment...

TonnageVT: Apples01: Premier League Champions (new window) - Pretty much Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool all the way down, with a sparse Chelsea coming up recently.

BAhahahahaah....sorry, had to laugh. Blackburn has won the league more recently than Liverpool.


So has Leeds. but Liverpool has been competitive enough, consistently enough that the original statement is not unreasonable. They've never finished worse than 8th & have only have finished outside the top four 7 times (soon to be 8 after this season) since the advent of the EPL. It's not the results they would have wanted, granted, but certainly nothing to be ashamed of...although maybe that's only because I'm not a Liverpool supporter...
 
2012-04-17 02:45:39 PM  
I'm at work. Anyone know of a good streaming site [that will not be blocked by the firewall here]?
 
2012-04-17 02:48:25 PM  
I generally only follow Everton and Arsenal in EPL (seems Chelsea/ManU/Liverpool are the big fish in that pond but Everton and the Gunners do have some good players apiece) so I don't get the "why root for them if they don't have a snowball's chance" issue personally.
/also I'm a Philly Eagles fan so I'm used to years of fruitless fandom
//VISCA BARCA!
 
2012-04-17 02:57:39 PM  
Looks like Real can play soccer; who would've thought.
 
2012-04-17 03:00:54 PM  

bv2112: I'm at work. Anyone know of a good streaming site [that will not be blocked by the firewall here]?


might be blocked but you can try

firstrow
rojadirecta
wiziwig
 
2012-04-17 03:02:57 PM  

bv2112: I'm at work. Anyone know of a good streaming site [that will not be blocked by the firewall here]?


http://www.futbolenvivopocpoc.blogspot.com/p/canal-2.html

Might be blocked, but worth a try. Los canales son en espanol.
 
2012-04-17 03:03:57 PM  

TheKnownUniverse: bv2112: I'm at work. Anyone know of a good streaming site [that will not be blocked by the firewall here]?

might be blocked but you can try

firstrow
rojadirecta
wiziwig


Also vipbox.tv
 
2012-04-17 03:05:31 PM  
TTTOOOOOOOOOOORRRRR RIBERY!
 
2012-04-17 03:05:45 PM  
Uh, that was luck for Bayern there. Some refs might have considered that offside as more than passive.
 
2012-04-17 03:21:59 PM  
I'm personally hoping for Bayern to pull this out because I'm in love with the French national team (wish they would have made it into the 2010 World Cup, ah well...) and, frankly, despise Ronaldo with the fury of a thousand dying suns. I mean seriously, eff that guy... and his talent.. his sweet, arrogant talent.

On the other side, I'm a Chelsea fan and would love to see them crush the life out of Barca, but I just don't feel it now. Yes, I'm happy we're where we're at.. but damn if the team is starting to just give up the ghost. We can't keep a damn manager for more than.. well hell, I think Roman called me last night to ask if I wanted a freaking turn at the top. That said, taking it all in the CL might give us the incentive to actually play properly in next year's EPL run.

In the end:

Bayern 3 - 1 Real
Chelsea 1 - Barca 2

And then Bayern 2 - Barca 1 and it sure as hell won't be pretty.

/I'm probably wrong
 
2012-04-17 03:59:47 PM  
I hate Real Madrid so much.
 
2012-04-17 04:00:48 PM  

KaisertheCoyote: I hate Real Madrid so much.


This.
 
2012-04-17 04:13:38 PM  
If only Bayern had a striker..
 
2012-04-17 04:16:04 PM  
Jesus Christ Bayern, the goal is on the ground not 20 feet over it. Stop skying the damn thing.
 
2012-04-17 04:17:15 PM  
Bayern are picking up speed and Mario Gomez is at least reminding us he's there now. I hope he can get one, but Olic can create better maybe he needs to be on the pitch right now.
 
2012-04-17 04:30:56 PM  
At least all Real players are going to suffer from muscle soreness in their shoulders. I just can't stand that bloody complaining.
 
2012-04-17 04:31:04 PM  
At 85' or so, How was that not a penalty shot?
 
2012-04-17 04:32:38 PM  
GOOAAAAAALALLLLLLL!
 
2012-04-17 04:32:40 PM  
GOMEZ!!!!!
 
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