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(Some Guy)		BLOAD happy 35th birthday apple ][, A2000 (tuaw.com)		50
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Generation_D		2012-04-17 08:36:25 AM

POKE PEEK(40)+PEEK(41)*x+PEEK(36),32

Skr		2012-04-17 09:25:00 AM

Man. I know I've heard that computers used to be massively huge but that thing literally dwarfs the TARDIS!

cepheidvariable		2012-04-17 09:26:24 AM

Funny... I bought mine at a computer store in 1978 (Micro Shoppe, in Corpus Christi, TX).

ramblinwreck		2012-04-17 09:36:43 AM

Couldn't get past the first two words in the article: Harry McCracken.

1macgeek		2012-04-17 09:36:49 AM

Generation_D: POKE PEEK(40)+PEEK(41)*x+PEEK(36),32

Pffftt ! Pussy... try using the thing after this command : CALL -151.

/not for mere mortals after that
// trust me, hexadecimal math will make your head asplode
/// used FFFF before it became an internet meme

born_yesterday		2012-04-17 09:37:19 AM

Ah, my Apple IIc. First computer ever. Let's just start her up and---

OMG I FORGOT TO PUT A DISK IN THE DRIVE!!!....

BBBBRRRRRRR....BBBBBRRRRRRRR....BBRRRRRRRRRRR...

Man, I hope it doesn't hurt it when I do that.

poot_rootbeer		2012-04-17 09:47:42 AM

The Amiga 2000 isn't 35 years old yet!

Captain_Sunshine		2012-04-17 09:47:47 AM

It may amuse my fellow Farkers to know that I still teach with mine. There are a couple of programs I have never found on any other platform that my chemistry students still like to play with.

If anyone's ever rewritten HABER-TECH or ChemRain or ChemMaze for the PC or Mac, or managed to port them to an emulator, I'd really like to know how to do that. I'd also like a copy of FID if you have one.

MadMonk		2012-04-17 10:01:51 AM

C= 64 rules!

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat		2012-04-17 10:02:10 AM

I can still remember the smell of the molded plastic and the feel of the awkward keyboard.

Good times. Good times.

Kuta		2012-04-17 10:12:53 AM

BiLestOAD?

Vaneshi		2012-04-17 10:25:42 AM

poot_rootbeer: The Amiga 2000 isn't 35 years old yet!

I am glad I'm not the only one who saw A2000 and instantly thought Amiga.

flaminio		2012-04-17 10:28:02 AM

MadMonk: C= 64 rules!

Apple ][ < C=64 < Atari 800 FTW!

Magorn		2012-04-17 10:36:31 AM

MadMonk: C= 64 rules!

this. Shortly after I got my C-64 my rich friend's dad bought him an Apple IIC, I could never see what that machine could do that made it worth 3x as much. In fact for game playing, he was always jealous of me. We got Elite at about the same time, and the first time he came over and saw me turn on my docking computer, and "The Blue Danube" came lilting out of my speakers , I thought he was going to turn purple with envy.

Phantoms5000		2012-04-17 10:42:53 AM

I remember the exact day my dad brought home an Apple II Plus: September 17, 1980. By that night, I was rocking out on Apple Invaders, which looked almost exactly like Space Invaders, except for that "splat" noise that the program made when you hit the invaders. Made the Atari 2600's version pale in comparison.

\Yep, I'm old(er).
\\Get off my lawn.
\\\Better yet, I'll pay you to mow it, then get off it...

cirby		2012-04-17 11:06:42 AM

I still keep hoping Apple would make an anniversary Apple IIe - just a little box with a keyboard input and video and sound outputs.

/had a IIe with a Checkmate 1 megabyte memory card
//could load all of AppleWorks into RAM - amazingly fast at the time

Migrating Coconut		2012-04-17 11:29:29 AM

Had a Franklin Ace 1200 with 2, count them, *2* floppy drives. Don't hate!

Later went to a IIgs with a 20MB internal hard drive... GS was a Mac wanna be.

gingerjet		2012-04-17 11:34:49 AM

Magorn: this. Shortly after I got my C-64 my rich friend's dad bought him an Apple IIC, I could never see what that machine could do that made it worth 3x as much. In fact for game playing, he was always jealous of me. We got Elite at about the same time, and the first time he came over and saw me turn on my docking computer, and "The Blue Danube" came lilting out of my speakers , I thought he was going to turn purple with envy.

2/10

Keyser_Soze_Death		2012-04-17 11:42:02 AM

1macgeek: Generation_D: POKE PEEK(40)+PEEK(41)*x+PEEK(36),32

Pffftt ! Pussy... try using the thing after this command : CALL -151.

Easy, type: 3D0G then enter.

/still waiting for a PC version of Sundog

Unoriginal_Username		2012-04-17 11:55:01 AM

Skr: Man. I know I've heard that computers used to be massively huge but that thing literally dwarfs the TARDIS!

It may, but the TARDIS is larger on the inside.

/And I doubt the Apple ][ has a pool

dramboxf		2012-04-17 12:04:32 PM

Dad purchased me an Apple ][+ when I was 14, so that'd be 1980. Came with the 16K Language card (Pascal, FORTRAN,) a 40/80 column card, a CP/M card (for running dBase II), the Apple Graphics Tablet, two disc drives and an Epson MX-80 with Graftrax. He told me it all cost $4,000. I had no idea how much money that really was back then -- but man did I get a ton of use out of it. I had two shoeboxes packed with 5.25" floppy discs (95% games), using the hole puncher to make them double-sided.

Later, I obtained a "crack card." You stuck it in slot #5, and booted your favorite game. Once it was loaded into memory, you hit the button on the crack card and it wrote out a memory image to disc. That way you could "crack" all the weird little copy protections they put on games back then.

enry		2012-04-17 12:12:08 PM

I'm going to go look for some Beagle Bros. stuff.

born_yesterday		2012-04-17 12:31:29 PM

enry: I'm going to go look for some Beagle Bros. stuff.

Off the top of my head:

1. Ultima V; such a big, in-depth world, and point and click ranged attacks (yay magic axes!).

2. The Enchanted Mirror, or something like that.

3. In Search of the Most Amazing Thing. It's YOU! What a copout ending.

I definately got playing time out of my 2C

Some Bass Playing Guy		2012-04-17 12:45:51 PM

Migrating Coconut: Had a Franklin Ace 1200 with 2, count them, *2* floppy drives. Don't hate!

I had the same system. I got mine from someone who worked at Franklin. Pure Apple ][e clone.

Skwrl		2012-04-17 12:51:45 PM

Unoriginal_Username: Skr: Man. I know I've heard that computers used to be massively huge but that thing literally dwarfs the TARDIS!

It may, but the TARDIS is larger on the inside.

/And I doubt the Apple ][ has a pool

Neither does the TARDIS any more... Although it will no doubt grow back.

AcneVulgaris		2012-04-17 01:50:44 PM

It's been a long, long time since I battled Klarnons.

swaxhog		2012-04-17 02:08:26 PM

Check out Virtual Apple ][ for all your nostalgia needs.

Dadoo		2012-04-17 02:10:40 PM

Captain_Sunshine: It may amuse my fellow Farkers to know that I still teach with mine. There are a couple of programs I have never found on any other platform that my chemistry students still like to play with.

If anyone's ever rewritten HABER-TECH or ChemRain or ChemMaze for the PC or Mac, or managed to port them to an emulator, I'd really like to know how to do that. I'd also like a copy of FID if you have one.

There are lots of ways. You could try this (new window), if you have any of the hardware they require, but my personal favorite is the Catweasel (new window) controller. It allows you to read pretty much any floppy disk.

OrbitalFerret		2012-04-17 02:29:49 PM

PR#6
TOCKA TOCKA TOCKA BRRRRT

Choplifter owned.

theorellior		2012-04-17 02:40:23 PM

Kuta: BiLestOAD?

That game rocked. Also Aquatron.

semiotix		2012-04-17 02:48:58 PM

Generation_D: POKE PEEK(40)+PEEK(41)*x+PEEK(36),32

What was that supposed to do? I tried it on my //e emulator, but nothing really happened. Then I ran it as a loop, poking 32 into whatever resulted from every value of X from 0 to 65535. It crashed on X=40 when it rewrote the whole program in lowercase. Then I got distracted because it was 1985 again and Inspector Gadget was on TV.

gingerjet		2012-04-17 03:02:35 PM

Skwrl: Neither does the TARDIS any more... Although it will no doubt grow back.

Just rewatched part of last season - still had the pool.

Boatmech		2012-04-17 03:20:09 PM

Phantoms5000
I remember the exact day my dad brought home an Apple II Plus: September 17, 1980. By that night, I was rocking out on Apple Invaders, which looked almost exactly like Space Invaders, except for that "splat" noise that the program made when you hit the invaders. Made the Atari 2600's version pale in comparison.
\Yep, I'm old(er).
\\Get off my lawn.
\\\Better yet, I'll pay you to mow it, then get off it..
`
I'm stealing that!
`
(From Wiki)
By 1982, an estimated 621,000 home computers were in use in the United States, at an average sales price of $530.
`
30 years from now kids are going to be talking about the good old days when they got their first tablet/smart phone.
/TRS-80 at school and C-64 at home
//anybody else pop the keys loose and put them back in different spots on the keyboad?

theurge14		2012-04-17 03:30:35 PM

And on C64:

i.imgur.com

anfrind		2012-04-17 04:59:24 PM

theurge14: [i.imgur.com image 560x384]

Wow. Whoever made that screencap sucks at Choplifter.

/manged to rescue all 64 hostages without losing any lives on a few rare occasions
//there was a different ending screen if you could pull it off

bighairyguy		2012-04-17 05:30:25 PM

OrbitalFerret: PR#6
TOCKA TOCKA TOCKA BRRRRT

Ahhhh, the old floppy drive machine gun.

Got my first Apple II (Rev 4) in 1979, loaded that bad boy up with 48K!

/Apple mystery byte!

cpx4		2012-04-17 06:34:34 PM

Still have my ][e in my Mother's attic, and a boxed modem for it too. All 300 baud of it, and it's about 14 inches long (So my Mom says anyway, boom!). Have an original Mac up there, a Vic-20 and my C64 with Datasette, Cartidge Modem and the autofire joystick I saved MONTHS for. Much simpler happier times I think :)

Tax Boy		2012-04-17 06:37:32 PM

Moooooooooooooo

/beagle bros were the BEST SOFTWARE COMPANY EVAR
//still have a binder with their stickers on it
///ubernerd

Parthenogenetic		2012-04-17 06:39:55 PM

DjangoStonereaver		2012-04-17 06:46:28 PM

I bought a used Apple II+ for $1200 (my life savings) in 1982. Never learned to program it properly, but sure as hell
got more than my money's worth between BBS'ing and just tinkering and learning everything but programming.

I remember them being given away as prizes on late 70s gameshows.

cedarpark		2012-04-17 09:47:14 PM

Am I showing too much geek if I comment that the subby's BLOAD command would load the program into the Apple //'s first high res graphic screen?

/subby

Marine1		2012-04-17 10:12:55 PM

Okay, threadjack, turning to Fark because I am seriously just about out of options here:

I need help on this thing here.

Segfaulting problem on C lab assignment (new window)

1macgeek		2012-04-17 10:54:57 PM

Marine1: Okay, threadjack, turning to Fark because I am seriously just about out of options here:

I need help on this thing here.

Segfaulting problem on C lab assignment (new window)

So... you seriously want the entire world AND ALL FUTURE EMPLOYERS to know you are dumbass that can't bring projects in on time? And that you can't handle writing a simple C program?

ROFLMAO!!!!

Them's some brilliant decision making skills you have there, Tex. I am sure you will get a job for $400K/year, easy. Right out of school. Company car. Stock options. Whole shootin' match...

neilbradley		2012-04-17 11:24:44 PM

<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7054327/76291716#c76291716" target="_blank">Marine1</a>:</b> <i>Okay, threadjack, turning to Fark because I am seriously just about out of options here:

I need help on this thing here.

Segfaulting problem on C lab assignment (new window)</i>

Well, this is *A* problem, dunno if it's *THE* problem. In emperor_to_rule_longest, there's this chunk of code:

for (n = 0; n > size; n++)

It should be n < size, otherwise the code, as written, will return an uninitialized "mage" variable since the for loop will never be executed since n won't ever be > size. Hope this helps!

WhyteRaven74		2012-04-18 12:11:22 AM

1macgeek: So... you seriously want the entire world AND ALL FUTURE EMPLOYERS to know you are dumbass that can't bring projects in on time? And that you can't handle writing a simple C program?

Yeah cause future employers will really know his Fark handle. Also, the ability to ask for help is rather key in certain field, like programming.

Marine1		2012-04-18 12:23:37 AM

1macgeek: Marine1: Okay, threadjack, turning to Fark because I am seriously just about out of options here:

I need help on this thing here.

Segfaulting problem on C lab assignment (new window)

So... you seriously want the entire world AND ALL FUTURE EMPLOYERS to know you are dumbass that can't bring projects in on time? And that you can't handle writing a simple C program?

ROFLMAO!!!!

Them's some brilliant decision making skills you have there, Tex. I am sure you will get a job for $400K/year, easy. Right out of school. Company car. Stock options. Whole shootin' match...

Can't learn if you don't ask...

Nightmaretony		2012-04-18 01:43:10 AM

Loved my first Apple ][ +. Learned assembly on there. Kept the light going, have been designing a new pinball computer 65C02 based, just sent out the motherboard data to be manufactur3ed this morning. Lessons learned along the way from the best home computer evar built.

swaxhog		2012-04-18 11:39:43 AM

cedarpark: Am I showing too much geek if I comment that the subby's BLOAD command would load the program into the Apple //'s first high res graphic screen?

/subby

Sadly, no since this was decimal. A2000 is going into $7D0. It would have needed to be A$2000

daemoncan		2012-04-18 01:05:27 PM

Keyser_Soze_Death: 1macgeek: Generation_D: POKE PEEK(40)+PEEK(41)*x+PEEK(36),32

Pffftt ! Pussy... try using the thing after this command : CALL -151.

Easy, type: 3D0G then enter.

I'll see your 3d0g, and raise you a c600g.

vrax		2012-04-18 04:56:02 PM

I've owned a lot of systems over the years, but if I think about my level of enjoyment during each period, the Apple ][+ probably brought me the greatest joy of them all. I got one in '79 when they had just come out. Single drive. 13" color TV. Woo! Ended up with an amazing analog joystick that I can't even find I picture of. 64K. 2nd drive. Koala Pad. Mockingboard. Awesome Hayes Microcoupler.

Finally tossed it a couple of years ago. It was kaput. Still have all the software and some of the cool packaging. Just couldn't bring myself to get rid of it yet.

/Last Apple I ever owned.
//Amiga 1000 was a close 2nd.
///Slightly misses the days of the dedicated software/computer store with discs in baggies and such. (No, not GameStop, etc!)

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