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(Herald Sun)   Is it a bird?......Is it a plane?....OH MY GOD IT'S THE PLANET VENUS AND IT'S COMING RIGHT AT US...BREAK RIGHT BREAK RIGHT   (heraldsun.com.au) divider line 90
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2012-04-17 05:46:23 AM  
In all fairness, Venus was pretty damn bright last night.
 
2012-04-17 08:05:43 AM  
Missed it, though, eh?
 
2012-04-17 08:08:16 AM  

Elvis_Bogart: In all fairness, Venus was pretty damn bright last night.


Yeah, but TFA says this happened in January. It wasn't anywhere near as bright back then, just looked like a fairly bright star.

I'm more concerned about the fact that there was apparently a pilot asleep at the helm of a trans-Atlantic flight myself- and there's no mention of a copilot in the whole article.
 
2012-04-17 08:13:34 AM  
That pilot picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue...
 
2012-04-17 08:21:03 AM  
Scarily enough when he dropped 400 feet he almost hit a real plane that was just 1000 feet below them.
 
2012-04-17 08:28:42 AM  
This particular illusion happens a lot more than you want to know.
 
2012-04-17 08:28:57 AM  
THERE'S A SALE AT PENNY'S!
 
Pud [TotalFark]
2012-04-17 09:05:19 AM  
He probably just heard about the buy one get one free 6" sandwich deal at subway
 
2012-04-17 09:15:17 AM  

Andromeda: I'm more concerned about the fact that there was apparently a pilot asleep at the helm of a trans-Atlantic flight myself- and there's no mention of a copilot in the whole article.


This was the copilot, and rest on the flight deck like that isn't all that uncommon.
 
2012-04-17 09:20:06 AM  

costermonger: Andromeda: I'm more concerned about the fact that there was apparently a pilot asleep at the helm of a trans-Atlantic flight myself- and there's no mention of a copilot in the whole article.

This was the copilot, and rest on the flight deck like that isn't all that uncommon.


The original article didn't clarify. (the link to the story changed).
 
2012-04-17 09:42:05 AM  
The changed link is even worse, as it gives the measurements in metres, when most of the readers here are American, and also although it mentions the 16 people hurt didn't have their seatbelts on, it doesn't mention that the seatbelt light was lit and they just ignored it. Always keep your seatbelts on. You never know when unexpected turbulence or other crazy sh*t will happen.
 
2012-04-17 09:56:25 AM  

queezyweezel: The original article didn't clarify. (the link to the story changed).


Oh I believe it, I didn't even RTFA. Just familiar with the story.
 
2012-04-17 10:09:18 AM  

costermonger: queezyweezel: The original article didn't clarify. (the link to the story changed).

Oh I believe it, I didn't even RTFA. Just familiar with the story.


I saw it on CBC last night. Nuts. This is why you always keep your seatbelt on, but christ: Canada is behind the ball on fatigue issues.
 
2012-04-17 10:19:13 AM  

Charlie Freak: I saw it on CBC last night. Nuts. This is why you always keep your seatbelt on, but christ: Canada is behind the ball on fatigue issues.


Very. Most of our rules are the same as yours, but if they're not the same, they're not as restrictive. I was out for drinks (his non-alcholic) with a former student of mine on Saturday who flys a Lear for a medevac company, and the kind of manipulation of duty days and on call limits that are possible within the rules just boggles the mind. He'd been up since 8am, was on call all day, and at 11pm he could've still been legally called in to work to fly to Europe.
 
2012-04-17 10:37:43 AM  

costermonger: Charlie Freak: I saw it on CBC last night. Nuts. This is why you always keep your seatbelt on, but christ: Canada is behind the ball on fatigue issues.

Very. Most of our rules are the same as yours, but if they're not the same, they're not as restrictive. I was out for drinks (his non-alcholic) with a former student of mine on Saturday who flys a Lear for a medevac company, and the kind of manipulation of duty days and on call limits that are possible within the rules just boggles the mind. He'd been up since 8am, was on call all day, and at 11pm he could've still been legally called in to work to fly to Europe.


Lots of manipulation in the states as well. It seems to be getting better, though, as awareness is increasing.
 
2012-04-17 10:55:32 AM  

Charlie Freak: Lots of manipulation in the states as well. It seems to be getting better, though, as awareness is increasing.


Very few companies violate the rules we have, but the rules aren't anywhere even close to properly managing fatigue. There doesn't seem to be much willingness to go beyond the minimum from the employer level.
 
2012-04-17 11:14:24 AM  

costermonger: Charlie Freak: Lots of manipulation in the states as well. It seems to be getting better, though, as awareness is increasing.

Very few companies violate the rules we have, but the rules aren't anywhere even close to properly managing fatigue. There doesn't seem to be much willingness to go beyond the minimum from the employer level.


Well down here, I'm surprised the current House of Representatives hasn't moved to abolished the FAA entirely. Companies will always do what's in the best interest of the public and their employees if you just leave them alone, you know.
 
2012-04-17 11:28:19 AM  

Charlie Freak: Well down here, I'm surprised the current House of Representatives hasn't moved to abolished the FAA entirely. Companies will always do what's in the best interest of the public and their employees if you just leave them alone, you know.


Well clearly, consumers are always completely informed and will simply choose not to buy tickets with the airlines that have poor schedules for their pilots, and the invisible hand of the free market will correct all that ails the industry.
 
2012-04-17 11:33:54 AM  

Elvis_Bogart: In all fairness, Venus was pretty damn bright last night.


Burning like a silver flame.
 
2012-04-17 11:34:20 AM  
Beter than actual collision i suppose.
 
2012-04-17 11:35:17 AM  
How off-course was he that he had to take evasive maneuvers to avoid hitting Venus?
 
2012-04-17 11:35:26 AM  

Andromeda: Yeah, but TFA says this happened in January. It wasn't anywhere near as bright back then, just looked like a fairly bright star.


Even at its dimmest, Venus is the brightest thing in the sky that isn't Sol or Luna. To say Venus looks like a "fairly bright star" is an understatement.
 
2012-04-17 11:36:32 AM  
Jesse Venture "claims" that no other object is mistaken for a UFO more often than the planet Venus, like he actually knows anything about anything.

\Alex Trebek says I'm very sleepy, very relaxed....
 
2012-04-17 11:36:41 AM  
It's the FINAL COUNTDOWN
 
2012-04-17 11:37:52 AM  

probesport: Elvis_Bogart: In all fairness, Venus was pretty damn bright last night.

Burning like a silver flame.


Heh.
 
2012-04-17 11:37:52 AM  
Always keep your seatbelts on. You never know when unexpected turbulence or other crazy sh*t will happen

Oh no, no! Parents MUST be allowed to flit around the cabin with their little errors as they see fit.

Seriously, I've watched a parent with a baby in their arms COMPLETELY ignore multiple flight attendants telling them over the intercom to SIT DOWN and PUT YOUR SEATBELT ON as the plane was entering a pocket of heavy turbulence.

Remember folks, the smugness of being a parent trumps physics and momentum EVERY TIME.
 
2012-04-17 11:39:29 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-04-17 11:39:48 AM  
i406.photobucket.com

Whew, that was a close one.
 
2012-04-17 11:42:38 AM  
darch: Always keep your seatbelts on. You never know when unexpected turbulence or other crazy sh*t will happen

Oh no, no! Parents MUST be allowed to flit around the cabin with their little errors as they see fit.

Seriously, I've watched a parent with a baby in their arms COMPLETELY ignore multiple flight attendants telling them over the intercom to SIT DOWN and PUT YOUR SEATBELT ON as the plane was entering a pocket of heavy turbulence.

Remember folks, the smugness of being a parent trumps physics and momentum EVERY TIME.


HOW DARE YOU ARGUE WITH MOMMY INSTINCT!
THAT MOTHER KNOWS HER BABY FAR BETTER THAN YOU! YOU DIDN'T CARRY HER FOR 9 MONTHS!
YOU'RE A MONSTER! YOU AND ALL THOSE SO-CALLED EXPERTS!
 
2012-04-17 11:44:33 AM  

darch: Always keep your seatbelts on. You never know when unexpected turbulence or other crazy sh*t will happen

Oh no, no! Parents MUST be allowed to flit around the cabin with their little errors as they see fit.


i0.kym-cdn.com

I dunno. He looks kind of plump and grown up to me.
 
2012-04-17 11:44:56 AM  

Mr. Potatoass: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 425x213]


I got there first.....sorry
 
2012-04-17 11:45:37 AM  
Oh sure yeah. Venus looks harmless.
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-04-17 11:46:34 AM  

Arkanaut: It's the FINAL COUNTDOWN


Maybe they've seen us and welcome us all
 
2012-04-17 11:46:49 AM  
What the hell was any plane doing 300 meters from another plane at cruise speed?
 
2012-04-17 11:47:13 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

"AirEast 31, do you wish to file a report of any kind to us?"

"I wouldn't know what kind of report to file, Center."
 
2012-04-17 11:47:54 AM  

Minimally Hairy Beer-Powered Simian: Mr. Potatoass: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 425x213]

I got there first.....sorry


My bad. Well done.
 
2012-04-17 11:49:09 AM  
This reminds me of my favorite 9/11 joke:

It's a bird. It's a plane. OH shiat! IT'S A PLANE!
 
2012-04-17 11:49:12 AM  
Minimally Hairy Beer-Powered Simian:

1.bp.blogspot.com

No other object has been misidentified as an incoming plane more often than the planet Venus.
 
2012-04-17 11:54:32 AM  
I never understood why the 2 guys who thought Superman was a bird or a plane were so damned excited..
 
2012-04-17 11:55:02 AM  

Pud: He probably just heard about the buy one get one free 6" sandwich deal at subway


/before 9am
 
2012-04-17 11:55:36 AM  
An Air Canada pilot made a series of blunders that led to passengers being injured, a report has found. Picture: Ian Muttoo/Flickr

I've had it with these muttoo/flickr pilots sleeping on my muttoo/flickr plane!
 
2012-04-17 11:57:37 AM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-04-17 11:59:35 AM  
www.wearysloth.com

"When they think they see a UFO, most people are actually looking at the planet Venus."
 
2012-04-17 12:08:17 PM  

joonyer: What the hell was any plane doing 300 meters from another plane at cruise speed?


FAA/ICAO regulations allow properly equipped planes to fly with 1000' (300 meters) of vertical separation at cruise altitudes between 29000 and 41000 feet.
Eastbound flights use the odd flight levels (290, 310 etc) and westbound use even (300, 320, etc).
Most oceanic flights use airways or tracks so they're all generally flying the same route and depend on the flight level to maintain seperation.

Remember, over the ocean there is no radar for controllers to see, only position reports and maths keep you safe.
 
2012-04-17 12:08:47 PM  
Jeez, how would he react if he saw Uranus?

/Shuddering at the thought...
 
2012-04-17 12:09:15 PM  
16 people in metric? What is that in American?
 
2012-04-17 12:09:39 PM  
I was driving on I-75 last night and I thought Venus was an aeroplane. I looked again a few minutes later and it hadn't moved much. It took me a few moments to figure it all out.
 
2012-04-17 12:11:21 PM  

BKITU: darch: Always keep your seatbelts on. You never know when unexpected turbulence or other crazy sh*t will happen

Oh no, no! Parents MUST be allowed to flit around the cabin with their little errors as they see fit.

[i0.kym-cdn.com image 258x258]

I dunno. He looks kind of plump and grown up to me.


That's an amazing reference, 2 internets for you.

The headline made me think of this...

images.spatiallyadjusted.com
 
2012-04-17 12:14:01 PM  
I submitted this with a Shocking Blue headline so I'm not getting a kick. Oh, and...

static.neatoshop.com
 
2012-04-17 12:20:50 PM  
Atta boy, great flying!
img.thesun.co.uk
 
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