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(io9)   Now that the Avengers movie is finally coming out, what can Marvel Studios do to top it? Plenty, apparently. "We have the comics. When you're producing a story a month for 45 years, there are enough great (ones)"   (io9.com) divider line 157
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2012-04-17 01:15:29 PM

Raug the Dwarf: PizzaJedi81: Raug the Dwarf: I'm pretty stoked for just about everything Marvel's got on the horizon. And I don't mean Xmen and Spidey movies either. I had heard rumours, but when I saw this article, I literally squealed.

Gaurdians of the Galaxy movie


And the good Guardians too. Star-Lord, Rocket and Groot with the remains of the old Infinity Watch. I can't wait.

But...I LIKED Vance Astro and that team!

I was never a big fan. I always thought they were stiff and didn't gel very well. The New Guardians were a lot of fun. Most of them had worked together before and Rocket and Groot were badasses.


29.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-04-17 01:30:45 PM

Mugato: Yeah I know, with the chess piece but I don't really think that was meant as a setup to a sequel. I think it was just an open ended ending where the audience could imagine what happened next. Simply canceling out the major plot point of the last film is venturing in 80's slasher film territory where nothing that happens to the villain has any consequence. Besides which, Professor X is still dead.


They actually put quite a bit of forshadowing in for this. Even without the additional scene at the end, if you were paying attention, this works. Well, as much as anything works in a comic book world.
 
2012-04-17 01:31:06 PM

Mugato: And then a young, brash Hollywood exec stood up during a meeting and said, "We have a stack of original screenplays sent in by real writers. Why don't we look at some of them?".

That young, brash Hollywood exec is now resting in the Nevada desert next to Moe Green.


Actually, they took one of those screenplays, and every time the screenplay says "Tom Tulliver" they crossed it out and wrote "Logan."
 
2012-04-17 01:31:40 PM
AAAND I hit quote on the wrong post. I lose.
 
2012-04-17 01:32:27 PM

Sybarite: Just don't screw up Dr. Strange.


This. So much this.
 
2012-04-17 01:35:32 PM
perez.comicbookseries.info
 
2012-04-17 01:36:20 PM

theorellior: Nemo's Brother: or Bat Man reboots (you know they will come after this last one).

As someone who hates the Nolan Batman series of films, a reboot would be most welcome.


Uh, wha?
 
2012-04-17 01:36:35 PM

FirstNationalBastard: What a novel idea... using the 45 years of stories you already have for movie ideas instead of getting some Hollywood hacks to shiat out an idea that will certainly flop.

Someone let Warner Brothers know that this is possible! Oh, and tell them that it's okay to use more than one story and villain, you don't have to use the same bald one over and over in every film you make about a character for 35 years.


How about we just spend time with the "hero" tediously not in costume and just moping around, and then throwing in 3-4 villains that are retconned to tie into another lugubrious retelling of the hero's origin?
 
2012-04-17 01:36:48 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: What a novel idea... using the 45 years of stories you already have for movie ideas instead of getting some Hollywood hacks to shiat out an idea that will certainly flop.

Don't you mean using the same 5 stories regurgitated from 45 years of comic books instead of taking a chance on an original screenplay that might start a new franchise and make people not sick and tired of seeing the same shiat every year?

What do I care, I work on the technical end, it's all the same to me.

Well, yes, that is a bigger problem, but in the past when I've mentioned that there are too many comic book movies and that the majority of them suck, I've been told to STFU and then told how great it is that we have films like Jonah Hex and Green Lantern.

So I just figured I'd go with the easier target of lack of creativity in the DC comic book movies.


Jonah Hex was actually pretty ok. No easy praise considering that as big a comic fan as I am I never really liked the character. Green Lantern ..... well, it pretty much sucked, and as I am a huge GL fan, that one really was disappoint.

/playing thru Red Dead Redemption not long before seeing Jonah Hex might have made that movie suck less.
 
2012-04-17 01:38:18 PM

Fano: FirstNationalBastard: What a novel idea... using the 45 years of stories you already have for movie ideas instead of getting some Hollywood hacks to shiat out an idea that will certainly flop.

Someone let Warner Brothers know that this is possible! Oh, and tell them that it's okay to use more than one story and villain, you don't have to use the same bald one over and over in every film you make about a character for 35 years.

How about we just spend time with the "hero" tediously not in costume and just moping around, and then throwing in 3-4 villains that are retconned to tie into another lugubrious retelling of the hero's origin?


Better yet: one hero, one villian. What a concept!
 
2012-04-17 01:38:43 PM

Jedekai: [perez.comicbookseries.info image 600x930]


I love that series. it is completely unfilmable. so much would have to be changed, from Thanos' appearance to crazy shiat like the Watcher. It could be done as a cartoon but that would lessen the property, i think.
 
2012-04-17 01:39:29 PM

theorellior: Nemo's Brother: or Bat Man reboots (you know they will come after this last one).

As someone who hates the Nolan Batman series of films, a reboot would be most welcome.


www.coronacomingattractions.com

Maybe if Bruce Wayne was younger... hipper... somebody the audience could relate to...
 
2012-04-17 01:42:45 PM

Bloody William: Infinity Gauntlet.
Age of Apocalypse.
Civil War (could actually be reimagined and done well in movie format).
Ultron Unleashed.
Baron Zemo and the Masters of Doom forming in response to the Avengers.
Kang the Conqueror.
Corvac.
The Fall of Hank Pym as a Lifetime Original Movie.


The Beyonder
 
2012-04-17 01:44:38 PM
I am going to show my age here...but i'd like to see a "Days of future past" or "Mutant Massacre" made into movies...
 
2012-04-17 01:45:23 PM

Subdue their bellies: Hmmm... What could possibly be in the *cough* next wave *cough* of marvel blockbusters...


iseewhatyoudidthere.jpg

/Mark Millar licks goats
 
2012-04-17 01:49:56 PM

Rwa2play: theorellior: Nemo's Brother: or Bat Man reboots (you know they will come after this last one).

As someone who hates the Nolan Batman series of films, a reboot would be most welcome.

Uh, wha?


You shouldn't really be surprised that someone on Fark hates something that was actually good.
 
2012-04-17 01:50:46 PM
Well, Marvel can reboot Captain Marvel.He's only got the same name as the company. Marvel Corp, you should be embarrassed. They can have some hot blonde play Carol Danvers and have Mar-Vell rescue her and life would be good. Just pretend Genis and the rest of the gang never happened after Spidey blew Mephisto or whatever it was he did. The muddled mess they left that whole series and section of the Marvel Universe needs retconned or rebooted badly and I despise retcons.
/and reboots
//that's how bad the mess is.
 
2012-04-17 01:52:13 PM

frepnog: FirstNationalBastard: Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: What a novel idea... using the 45 years of stories you already have for movie ideas instead of getting some Hollywood hacks to shiat out an idea that will certainly flop.

Don't you mean using the same 5 stories regurgitated from 45 years of comic books instead of taking a chance on an original screenplay that might start a new franchise and make people not sick and tired of seeing the same shiat every year?

What do I care, I work on the technical end, it's all the same to me
Well, yes, that is a bigger problem, but in the past when I've mentioned that there are too many comic book movies and that the majority of them suck, I've been told to STFU and then told how great it is that we have films like Jonah Hex and Green Lantern.

So I just figured I'd go with the easier target of lack of creativity in the DC comic book movies.

Jonah Hex was actually pretty ok. No easy praise considering that as big a comic fan as I am I never really liked the character. Green Lantern ..... well, it pretty much sucked, and as I am a huge GL fan, that one really was disappoint.

/playing thru Red Dead Redemption not long before seeing Jonah Hex might have made that movie suck less.


Since My experience with Jonah Hex was limited to his Cameo in a time-travel epsiode of Justice League; I went into that movie with absolutely no preconvcieved notions, or investment in the character whatsoever. So I feel that I'm speaking perfectly objectively when I say that movie was one of the absolute worst I've ever seen. The story-telling in particular was atrocious, saying that movie had an actual plot is being generous
 
2012-04-17 01:53:47 PM

Rwa2play: Uh, wha?


I'm in a minority, but I find just about all of Nolan's films to be cold, hollow exercises in sophomoric moralism couched in poorly-edited, sepia-toned grittiness. "Memento" was decent, but everything else he's done has sucked. I can't stand anything he's done with the Batman property. I'd six times rather rewatch "SpiderMan 3" than sit through either "Batman Begins" or "The Dark Knight".
 
2012-04-17 01:54:08 PM
Is this where I put a Squirrel Girl pic?


/Would be sooo awesome
 
2012-04-17 02:02:53 PM

theorellior: The problem with that particular strategery is that all those comics were purchased by people actually invested in the characters and the universe, and I would say very, very few of those stories would hold up against a focus group screening involving Ma and Pa Kettle from West Bumfark, Nebraska. Because it would be horrible for Hollywood to actually produce ten genre films directed at a certain demographic that made $50 million each as opposed to a popcorn blockbuster directed at Joe Q. Generic that made $500 million.


In all likelihood, all eleven of those movies would cost no less than $40 million apiece to make, from first draft of the script to finished product and marketing blitz.

And even if they went with the ten niche movies and tried to keep costs down as much as possible, those movies would be turned into assembly-line summer blockbusters anyway, complete with explosions, a lingerie scene and Happy Meal toys. (TV Tropes^)

/let me reiterate -- the niche indie flick will become a cookie-cutter, PG-13 family movie with the forced addition of explosions, a lingerie scene and Happy Meal toys
 
2012-04-17 02:04:20 PM

scottydoesntknow: Plus Fassbender is just awesome


QFT.

Has Charles Xavier died more than Daniel Jackson now? I'm not really keeping track.

theorellior: Nemo's Brother: or Bat Man reboots (you know they will come after this last one).

As someone who hates the Nolan Batman series of films, a reboot would be most welcome.


I'm always happy when I find others.
 
2012-04-17 02:05:30 PM
Oh and Young Avengers movie, thanks.
 
2012-04-17 02:05:37 PM

Braindeath: I'm always happy when I find others.


Terrorist fist-bump, brother. Fight the good fight.
 
2012-04-17 02:06:48 PM

King Something: And even if they went with the ten niche movies and tried to keep costs down as much as possible, those movies would be turned into assembly-line summer blockbusters anyway, complete with explosions, a lingerie scene and Happy Meal toys.


I know. It's the Hollywood machine at work. But a guy can daydream, right?
 
2012-04-17 02:09:16 PM

Braindeath: Oh and Young Avengers movie, thanks.


I was about to say that's impossible because YA is so rooted in Avengers history, but there is an Avengers movie coming out, isn't there?

But, all the major characters would have to be introduced... Kang would have to show up, Scarlet Witch would have to have her unholy Vision babies...
 
2012-04-17 02:09:44 PM

Jedekai: [perez.comicbookseries.info image 600x930]


If you want that then check out the second season of super hero squad. Ya not the same but still.
 
2012-04-17 02:10:27 PM

Fano: theorellior: Nemo's Brother: or Bat Man reboots (you know they will come after this last one).

As someone who hates the Nolan Batman series of films, a reboot would be most welcome.

[www.coronacomingattractions.com image 640x441]

Maybe if Bruce Wayne was younger... hipper... somebody the audience could relate to...


Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...~!
 
2012-04-17 02:11:04 PM
Once upon a time it was westerns. Then it was cop dramas. I guess today's trend is supers. I think you can do much more with supers, and the genre (as far as movies go) is still young. Hancock and Watchmen are my favorites so far. Marvels done some good stuff.

I'm sad Cowboys vs Aliens was so dull though. Weird Western has a lot of untapped potential.
 
2012-04-17 02:11:08 PM
Runaways or Power Pack movies
 
2012-04-17 02:12:05 PM

mooseyfate: Rwa2play: theorellior: Nemo's Brother: or Bat Man reboots (you know they will come after this last one).

As someone who hates the Nolan Batman series of films, a reboot would be most welcome.

Uh, wha?

You shouldn't really be surprised that someone on Fark hates something that was actually good.


True, but it's still kinda jarring when someone says it and my trolling meter doesn't register.
 
2012-04-17 02:12:54 PM
I would love to see DC do "Superman: Peace on Earth". Would be deeper than any other superhero movie ever made.
 
2012-04-17 02:14:36 PM
I say fark DC and Marvel, more indie comics need to be movies.

A Goon movie, for example... there are zombies! Zombies are hot right now! That's the foot in the door!

Or Empowered! Who wouldn't like an Empowered movie starring as thick blonde who gets tied up and has her suit shredded to bits every other scene?
 
2012-04-17 02:17:10 PM
Or something not Marvel or DC:
Witchblade
The Darkness
Empowered
Tarot...though that one would be NC-17
 
2012-04-17 02:23:12 PM

texdent: Or something not Marvel or DC:
Witchblade
The Darkness
Empowered
Tarot...though that one would be NC-17


I wouldn't mind a GOOD League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie.

With MINA in charge, damn it.
 
2012-04-17 02:27:18 PM

theorellior: Rwa2play: Uh, wha?

I'm in a minority, but I find just about all of Nolan's films to be cold, hollow exercises in sophomoric moralism couched in poorly-edited, sepia-toned grittiness. "Memento" was decent, but everything else he's done has sucked. I can't stand anything he's done with the Batman property. I'd six times rather rewatch "SpiderMan 3" than sit through either "Batman Begins" or "The Dark Knight".


To each their own, but I doubt that you'll be finding many people who share your taste on this.
 
2012-04-17 02:28:23 PM

Some 'Splainin' To Do: To each their own, but I doubt that you'll be finding many people who share your taste on this.


Yes, I realize this. ; )
 
2012-04-17 02:32:20 PM

Nemo's Brother: No more! Let it stop with Avengers. No more Spiderman reboots, Superman reboots, or Dare Devil or Bat Man reboots (you know they will come after this last one).

And by the way, making something 'edgier' just means you're a hack who cannot work within the material.

Die Hollywood. Die


Can we just have one more Superman where he actually gets to punch someone?
 
2012-04-17 02:38:21 PM
Make a film about Kid Loki. Or nextwave.
 
2012-04-17 02:44:39 PM

Rhypskallion: Once upon a time it was westerns. Then it was cop dramas. I guess today's trend is supers. I think you can do much more with supers, and the genre (as far as movies go) is still young. Hancock and Watchmen are my favorites so far. Marvels done some good stuff.

I'm sad Cowboys vs Aliens was so dull though. Weird Western has a lot of untapped potential.


I rather enjoyed that one, but a lot of that had to do with Harrison Ford giving a great perfomance.

I think they should really think outside the box and Have a Bucky Barnes/ Jason Todd/Uncle Ben team up. You see in the first act we find out that none of them were really dead, have been saved by time travelling aliens with advanced medical technology and then ....

Oh hell... Wikipedia tells me Marvel has already violated this single shred of continuity decency they had....never mind
 
2012-04-17 02:46:02 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: Mugato: And then a young, brash Hollywood exec stood up during a meeting and said, "We have a stack of original screenplays sent in by real writers. Why don't we look at some of them?".

That young, brash Hollywood exec is now resting in the Nevada desert next to Moe Green.

Original scripts like Jennifer's Body?


He said real writers, not Diablo Cody.
 
2012-04-17 02:47:02 PM

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: So their next project is going to be (barely) one story, with key pieces of plot split across ooh, say four or five different films, of varying quality, all released a few weeks apart, all directed by different people, with a couple of shared characters (who will apparently possess the ability to be in multiple places at once) and the result about as coherent as the rantings of a crackhead schizophrenic?


They weren't talking about the Watchmen...
 
2012-04-17 02:55:01 PM

Magorn: frepnog: FirstNationalBastard: Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: What a novel idea... using the 45 years of stories you already have for movie ideas instead of getting some Hollywood hacks to shiat out an idea that will certainly flop.

Don't you mean using the same 5 stories regurgitated from 45 years of comic books instead of taking a chance on an original screenplay that might start a new franchise and make people not sick and tired of seeing the same shiat every year?

What do I care, I work on the technical end, it's all the same to me
Well, yes, that is a bigger problem, but in the past when I've mentioned that there are too many comic book movies and that the majority of them suck, I've been told to STFU and then told how great it is that we have films like Jonah Hex and Green Lantern.

So I just figured I'd go with the easier target of lack of creativity in the DC comic book movies.

Jonah Hex was actually pretty ok. No easy praise considering that as big a comic fan as I am I never really liked the character. Green Lantern ..... well, it pretty much sucked, and as I am a huge GL fan, that one really was disappoint.

/playing thru Red Dead Redemption not long before seeing Jonah Hex might have made that movie suck less.

Since My experience with Jonah Hex was limited to his Cameo in a time-travel epsiode of Justice League; I went into that movie with absolutely no preconvcieved notions, or investment in the character whatsoever. So I feel that I'm speaking perfectly objectively when I say that movie was one of the absolute worst I've ever seen. The story-telling in particular was atrocious, saying that movie had an actual plot is being generous


oh come on. it had decent to great FX, Megan Fox was gorgeous, Brand from Goonies played the part well, and it had a crossbow that shot dynamite. It was not the best movie ever made or anything (*cough* ALIENS *cough*) but it certainly was not the worst. Green Lantern was FAR worse than Hex and was still a pretty watchable (if disappointing) film.

Think Jonah Hex was bad? Watch Wild Wild West with Will Smith. Jonah Hex deserves an Oscar for not sucking that bad.
 
2012-04-17 03:01:20 PM

FirstNationalBastard: I say fark DC and Marvel, more indie comics need to be movies.

A Goon movie, for example... there are zombies! Zombies are hot right now! That's the foot in the door!

Or Empowered! Who wouldn't like an Empowered movie starring as thick blonde who gets tied up and has her suit shredded to bits every other scene?


We tried that with Scott Pilgrim. The world wasn't ready.
 
2012-04-17 03:10:18 PM

Shadow Blasko: Is this where I put a Squirrel Girl pic?


/Would be sooo awesome


No, this is where I put a squirrel girl pic.
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
/hot
 
2012-04-17 03:11:09 PM

The_EliteOne: FirstNationalBastard: I say fark DC and Marvel, more indie comics need to be movies.

A Goon movie, for example... there are zombies! Zombies are hot right now! That's the foot in the door!

Or Empowered! Who wouldn't like an Empowered movie starring as thick blonde who gets tied up and has her suit shredded to bits every other scene?

We tried that with Scott Pilgrim. The world wasn't ready.


No, Scott Pilgrim's real problem was Michael Cera. Scott Pilgrim came out after his expiration date. They even tried to hide him on the movie posters. The movie itself is actually pretty ok... but Cera just sucks all the energy out of the role because "awkward douchebag" didn't work well in the role. Cera needed to become Scott Pilgrim for that movie and what we got was .... Michael Cera reading his lines again.
 
2012-04-17 03:31:08 PM

Mugato: The Stealth Hippopotamus: They are just setting up one of the greatest comic lines in history.

Mystique: " I thought you were dead"
Charles: "I got better"

classic!!!

Right and that's cool but enough with the post-credit sequences already. No one wants to sit through 10 minutes of credits to watch a 30 second clip that they just should have put in the actual movie. On very rare occasions I'm in the credits and I don't care if you read my name. You don't care who the 17th guy under the 13th guy under the 119th guy is and nor should you. Show the whole movie and release the audience to get on with their lives.


I got in the habit of staying through the credits after working with IATSE. I was kind of hoping they were setting up X4 to get into the Astral Plane stuff. Especially after they introduced Emma Frost in First Class. Too much time has passed now for that to happen.

My ex girlfriend was a huge X-Men fan. She was mainly pissed about Gambit being left out in the X-Men movies and then having a minor role in Origins.

I would like to see a Deadpool movie and hope it isn't terrible, if they decide to make it.
 
2012-04-17 03:31:36 PM
Part of me wants a Deadpool movie. The other part of me makes me thinks they'll make Deadpool like the Mask.

And HBO needs to make a series out of Strangers in Paradise.
 
2012-04-17 03:34:07 PM
First, Jonah Hex was a miserable failure pile made from design by committee. We deserve a better kind of comic book Western than that piece of sh*t.

Second I wouldn't adapt any Marvel series from the last 20 years as it is all basically crap fan fiction and retcons.
 
2012-04-17 03:38:57 PM

verbaltoxin: First, Jonah Hex was a miserable failure pile made from design by committee. We deserve a better kind of comic book Western than that piece of sh*t.

Second I wouldn't adapt any Marvel series from the last 20 years as it is all basically crap fan fiction and retcons.


FTFY.
 
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