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2012-04-16 07:19:41 PM
We're asking you to pay 30%. That's lower than almost any other industrialized country.

F*ck you people.
 
2012-04-16 07:24:43 PM
This is my surprised face :-|
 
2012-04-16 07:29:09 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: This is my surprised face :-|


Disappointed, same as your O face.
 
2012-04-16 07:30:28 PM

jim32rr: MaudlinMutantMollusk: This is my surprised face :-|

Disappointed, same as your O face.


You said that was just between us
 
2012-04-16 07:38:39 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: jim32rr: MaudlinMutantMollusk: This is my surprised face :-|

Disappointed, same as your O face.

You said that was just between us


You knew what this was.
 
2012-04-16 07:41:31 PM
[XX = never enuf;]
 
2012-04-16 07:41:52 PM
Freedom lives to fight another day.
 
2012-04-16 07:47:00 PM
Procedural Vote? Just call it what it is filibustered.
 
2012-04-16 07:49:25 PM
You better green one of these because I'm so angry I could punch a coxswain.

How long are we going to take this sh*t. Our awesome country costs money and we're borrowing a SH*TLOAD of it to fund current account deficits. This is bullsh*t!

Cut something or raise taxes! We need to do both but do something! Holy f*ckballs!
 
2012-04-16 08:02:54 PM
Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.


The only saving grace of this is that hopefully, they will be further and further marginalized as more people realize what they are: a party of mad extremists bent on reshaping America into a shiathole where only the wealthy have a farking chance of a decent life.
 
2012-04-16 08:05:07 PM

NewportBarGuy: You better green one of these because I'm so angry I could punch a coxswain.

How long are we going to take this sh*t. Our awesome country costs money and we're borrowing a SH*TLOAD of it to fund current account deficits. This is bullsh*t!

Cut something or raise taxes! We need to do both but do something! Holy f*ckballs!


obviously, the solution is to give the rich another tax cut.
 
2012-04-16 08:16:39 PM
Well that's surprising.

Anyone else think that, if the Dems hold both the House and Senate in 2013, they pull the same procedural rule bullshiat Bush pulled and fix the tax code that way? Toss the Bush tax cuts completely and implement the Buffet Rule, plus say a 40% bracket above $500k?

Sound good to anyone else? That's got to drop the deficit at least $600B a year, if not more.
 
2012-04-16 08:18:47 PM
I thought they at least had to wait until there was a Republican in office to go with the "deficits don't matter" stuff.
 
2012-04-16 08:20:10 PM

GAT_00: Well that's surprising.

Anyone else think that, if the Dems hold both the House and Senate in 2013, they pull the same procedural rule bullshiat Bush pulled and fix the tax code that way? Toss the Bush tax cuts completely and implement the Buffet Rule, plus say a 40% bracket above $500k?

Sound good to anyone else? That's got to drop the deficit at least $600B a year, if not more.


1. anyone signing that into law would be assasinated within 2 years.
2. according to our GOP shills (and the GOP itself), unless a tax hike pays off everything right away, it's completely ineffective and thus shouldn't be even considered.
3. socialisms.
4. ipads.
5. war on terror.
 
2012-04-16 08:20:42 PM

NewportBarGuy: We're asking you to pay 30%. That's lower than almost any other industrialized country.

F*ck you people.

 
2012-04-16 08:22:26 PM

GAT_00: Anyone else think that, if the Dems hold both the House and Senate in 2013, they pull the same procedural rule bullshiat Bush pulled and fix the tax code that way?


Is that the "Nuclear Option?" Why are the Senate Dems such f*cking pussys? What do they need to do to make a bill pass by 51 votes? Cloture, or some sh*t? I don't remember from the 2000's when they threatened it and I'm damn sure not looking it up right now.

I know they fear it being used on them in the case they lose the majority. However, these times call for more direct and swift action, damn the consequences. I'll deal with it if the Republicans gain control, but we have to do something NOW!
 
2012-04-16 08:25:29 PM
LA Times:

Nearly three-quarters - 72% - of Americans say they support the idea, according to a CNN survey of 1,015 Americans, including 910 registered voters.

Good thing politicians vote on behalf of, and represent American citizens.
 
2012-04-16 08:26:17 PM
talkingpointsmemo.com

Look at that farking face. Don't you just want to see him get punched in it?
Kentuckians should be ashamed that they have left this farking turtlehead represent them for so long.
As physically unappealing as he is, he is far more ugly and sinister on the inside.
What a God damned farking waste of human material.
 
2012-04-16 08:26:25 PM
Super Independent Scott Brown filibustered. Bad idea there.
 
2012-04-16 08:30:51 PM

elchip: Super Independent Scott Brown filibustered. Bad idea there.


What a goddamned cocks*cker. Hmmm... How much did Bain give to Scotty 2 Hottie? There they are! (new window)
 
2012-04-16 08:34:47 PM

NewportBarGuy: GAT_00: Anyone else think that, if the Dems hold both the House and Senate in 2013, they pull the same procedural rule bullshiat Bush pulled and fix the tax code that way?

Is that the "Nuclear Option?" Why are the Senate Dems such f*cking pussys? What do they need to do to make a bill pass by 51 votes? Cloture, or some sh*t? I don't remember from the 2000's when they threatened it and I'm damn sure not looking it up right now.

I know they fear it being used on them in the case they lose the majority. However, these times call for more direct and swift action, damn the consequences. I'll deal with it if the Republicans gain control, but we have to do something NOW!


The Nuclear Option should probably be pressed too, but I'm too hesitant with the insane shiat the GOP pushes through these days.

What I'm talking about is the budgetary hole the Bush cuts used. 10 years and you hope for a Dem Congress to extend them. But even 10 years of much less deficit hemorrhaging will help.
 
2012-04-16 08:37:56 PM

elchip: Super Independent Scott Brown filibustered. Bad idea there.


Don't you just hate it when you are forced to choose between your constituents and your owners?
 
2012-04-16 08:38:06 PM

GAT_00: The Nuclear Option should probably be pressed too, but I'm too hesitant with the insane shiat the GOP pushes through these days.


Go big or go home. The people want something done and they are sick of this f*cking intransigence.

Nuke the f*ckers now and we'll just have to deal with the consequences later. I'm and sick and tired of negotiating with a brick f*cking wall!
 
2012-04-16 08:39:07 PM
Ok, seriously, is there any reason not to implement the Buffet Rule other than "I'm rich (or owned by rich people) and I (or they) don't want to pay?" All it says is that the effective tax rate of the very wealthy (who make their money through capital gains) must at least be the effective tax rate of those wealthy who make their money through, you know, work. How is that bad, wrong, evil, soshulisms, etc.?

Please try not to use the terms "Job Creator" or "class warfare" without some serious evidence backing your claim, because in general I'm just not buying that it'll hurt job creation if they have to pay ~28% like the upper class who have regular income.
 
2012-04-16 08:39:16 PM

NewportBarGuy: GAT_00: Anyone else think that, if the Dems hold both the House and Senate in 2013, they pull the same procedural rule bullshiat Bush pulled and fix the tax code that way?

Is that the "Nuclear Option?" Why are the Senate Dems such f*cking pussys? What do they need to do to make a bill pass by 51 votes? Cloture, or some sh*t? I don't remember from the 2000's when they threatened it and I'm damn sure not looking it up right now.

I know they fear it being used on them in the case they lose the majority. However, these times call for more direct and swift action, damn the consequences. I'll deal with it if the Republicans gain control, but we have to do something NOW!


What's the point in that when the House would just say "oh hell no", just pointless posturing if they were to do so
 
2012-04-16 08:41:37 PM

martissimo: NewportBarGuy: GAT_00: Anyone else think that, if the Dems hold both the House and Senate in 2013, they pull the same procedural rule bullshiat Bush pulled and fix the tax code that way?

Is that the "Nuclear Option?" Why are the Senate Dems such f*cking pussys? What do they need to do to make a bill pass by 51 votes? Cloture, or some sh*t? I don't remember from the 2000's when they threatened it and I'm damn sure not looking it up right now.

I know they fear it being used on them in the case they lose the majority. However, these times call for more direct and swift action, damn the consequences. I'll deal with it if the Republicans gain control, but we have to do something NOW!

What's the point in that when the House would just say "oh hell no", just pointless posturing if they were to do so


Because people might actually recognize that both parties have an actual agenda. The Dems don't even think of trying something if it won't pass. The GOP knows that even the futile gives you an argument and wins voters.

It's why not going for the public option was a mistake, it's why dodging a fight for these entire last four years was a mistake.
 
2012-04-16 08:44:00 PM

doyner: elchip: Super Independent Scott Brown filibustered. Bad idea there.

Don't you just hate it when you are forced to choose between your constituents and your owners?


He has constituents?
 
2012-04-16 08:44:04 PM

Weaver95: GAT_00: Well that's surprising.

Anyone else think that, if the Dems hold both the House and Senate in 2013, they pull the same procedural rule bullshiat Bush pulled and fix the tax code that way? Toss the Bush tax cuts completely and implement the Buffet Rule, plus say a 40% bracket above $500k?

Sound good to anyone else? That's got to drop the deficit at least $600B a year, if not more.

1. anyone signing that into law would be assasinated within 2 years.
2. according to our GOP shills (and the GOP itself), unless a tax hike pays off everything right away, it's completely ineffective and thus shouldn't be even considered. Spending cuts, however small, add up over time and are the perfect (and only) way to balance the budget.
3. socialisms.
4. ipads.
5. war on terror.


Fixed that for you weaver. Now it's even more correct.
 
2012-04-16 08:44:32 PM

martissimo: NewportBarGuy: GAT_00: Anyone else think that, if the Dems hold both the House and Senate in 2013, they pull the same procedural rule bullshiat Bush pulled and fix the tax code that way?

Is that the "Nuclear Option?" Why are the Senate Dems such f*cking pussys? What do they need to do to make a bill pass by 51 votes? Cloture, or some sh*t? I don't remember from the 2000's when they threatened it and I'm damn sure not looking it up right now.

I know they fear it being used on them in the case they lose the majority. However, these times call for more direct and swift action, damn the consequences. I'll deal with it if the Republicans gain control, but we have to do something NOW!

What's the point in that when the House would just say "oh hell no", just pointless posturing if they were to do so


Sadly, this is all the evidence one needs to know that this vote is a political stunt.

A political stunt, mind you, that shows exactly what the GOP's true colors are.

Can you say Senator Warren, boys and girls?
 
2012-04-16 08:59:14 PM

doyner: elchip: Super Independent Scott Brown filibustered. Bad idea there.

Don't you just hate it when you are forced to choose between your constituents and your owners?


Or he didn't want to get the Don Manzullo treatment.
 
2012-04-16 09:00:27 PM

martissimo: What's the point in that when the House would just say "oh hell no", just pointless posturing if they were to do so


Because I'd rather back a group of people who went down fighting. I'm sick of this procedural bullsh*t. FIGHT FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN OR SHUT THE F*CK UP!

I know they are playing the long-game, but I'm tired of it. I do not want to see my generation become the lazy, complacent assholes of my father's generation. "We'll just pass this along... it will get done eventually."

Goddamnit! I want to see us take action because basic math tells us that interest on this kind of debt is going to kill us. We keep borrowing a trillion per year because we don't want to make these decisions. Economically, we are a total joke to the rest of the world and to ourselves. We CANNOT afford a half-a-trillion military per year. We can't! Education is a joke. Everyone is forced to go to college at inflated prices because everyone is going to college. We have done f*ck-all about our crumbling infrastructure.

This is just ridiculous.
 
2012-04-16 09:01:52 PM
Can someone, anyone, please tell me one point in favor of the Republican party?
Please, just tell me one thing good about them.

I really want there to be multiple viable political parties in the US, so that I have some choice when I vote, but I honestly cannot see a single good thing about the GOP.

Please tell me one thing that the GOP stands for that is deserving of my approval. Anything. Please.
 
2012-04-16 09:04:13 PM

FloydA: Can someone, anyone, please tell me one point in favor of the Republican party?


They will accelerate the inevitable decline and collapse of America, so we can start again without these worthless farks.
 
2012-04-16 09:05:41 PM

NewportBarGuy: martissimo: What's the point in that when the House would just say "oh hell no", just pointless posturing if they were to do so

Because I'd rather back a group of people who went down fighting. I'm sick of this procedural bullsh*t. FIGHT FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN OR SHUT THE F*CK UP!

I know they are playing the long-game, but I'm tired of it. I do not want to see my generation become the lazy, complacent assholes of my father's generation. "We'll just pass this along... it will get done eventually."

Goddamnit! I want to see us take action because basic math tells us that interest on this kind of debt is going to kill us. We keep borrowing a trillion per year because we don't want to make these decisions. Economically, we are a total joke to the rest of the world and to ourselves. We CANNOT afford a half-a-trillion military per year. We can't! Education is a joke. Everyone is forced to go to college at inflated prices because everyone is going to college. We have done f*ck-all about our crumbling infrastructure.

This is just ridiculous.


Look buddy, the American people have spoken. We want the next several generations to herald in a glorious era of neo-corporate feudalism instead of laboring under the yoke of a representative democracy with a progressive tax code.
 
2012-04-16 09:07:38 PM
This is a good news!

I strongly oppose the increase to the cost of a buffet.
 
2012-04-16 09:08:05 PM

NewportBarGuy: This is just ridiculous.


eventually we'll have a massive economic collapse and THEN you'll see some real change in congress!

hmm. bring a mop. these things tend to get messy.
 
2012-04-16 09:20:21 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

The only saving grace of this is that hopefully, they will be further and further marginalized as more people realize what they are: a party of mad extremists bent on reshaping America into a shiathole where only the wealthy have a farking chance of a decent life.


yeah but in a country where the "news" corporations control the message and are under no legal obligation to tell the truth or be objective ,where votes are case into a black box that only a corporation can see into,where unlimited amounts of influence can be bought anonymously,and where the line between religion and politics is blurred beyond recognition I don't see it happening anytime soon. What you will get are different colors of the same old shiat. Corporatists dressed in different suits. Giving lip service to two different groups of people. pitting them against each other. but having almost the same results of their policymaking. Oh sure the Dems will moan and groan about being defeated. That's the role they play.
 
2012-04-16 09:22:08 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: [talkingpointsmemo.com image 640x353]

Look at that farking face. Don't you just want to see him get punched in it?
Kentuckians should be ashamed that they have left this farking turtlehead represent them for so long.
As physically unappealing as he is, he is far more ugly and sinister on the inside.
What a God damned farking waste of human material.


Green power tie? Why do McConell and Boehner insist on wearing unpatriotic ties that aren't red or blue?
 
2012-04-16 09:22:43 PM
America is so full of sh*t. We already over represent the rural red staters by a factor of about 10-1 in the Senate. California, NY State etc get the same vote as Alabama and Kentucky. There's about a 50/50 split between red states and blue, but most of the blue states are where the people live, only Florida and Texas make the top 10 and are "Red." And Florida only cause they cheat.

Its a sad state of affairs Tommy and all the fresh air in the world won't make up for it.
 
2012-04-16 09:24:22 PM

Generation_D: America is so full of sh*t. We already over represent the rural red staters by a factor of about 10-1 in the Senate. California, NY State etc get the same vote as Alabama and Kentucky. There's about a 50/50 split between red states and blue, but most of the blue states are where the people live, only Florida and Texas make the top 10 and are "Red." And Florida only cause they cheat.

Its a sad state of affairs Tommy and all the fresh air in the world won't make up for it.


In America, land gets a vote.
 
2012-04-16 09:31:45 PM

Generation_D: America is so full of sh*t. We already over represent the rural red staters by a factor of about 10-1 in the Senate. California, NY State etc get the same vote as Alabama and Kentucky. There's about a 50/50 split between red states and blue, but most of the blue states are where the people live, only Florida and Texas make the top 10 and are "Red." And Florida only cause they cheat.

Its a sad state of affairs Tommy and all the fresh air in the world won't make up for it.


You do realize we're a bicameral legislature, and that over-representing the less populous areas was the point of the Senate, right? Plus, in the House, which is apportioned by population, the "Red Team" is beating the "Blue Team" 242-190. So, your argument fails on pretty much every level.
 
2012-04-16 09:41:40 PM
It might be the point, but its an outdated, stupid, 18th century idea. And it skews America hard right. Which was the reason I said it. In rebuttal, you apparently learned to cut and paste wiki. Nice job. But kudos for being able to quote what was once considered 8th grade civics.
 
2012-04-16 09:44:15 PM
It's funny because they're the same jerk-offs spending too much.

/yeah all of them
 
2012-04-16 09:44:23 PM
NewportBarGuy: We're asking you to pay 30%. That's lower than almost any other industrialized country.

F*ck you people.


something something job creators something welfare something socialist tyranny
 
2012-04-16 09:45:51 PM
This country, unfortunately, needs another Depression. One that will make it obvious that we need each other to survive and succeed. I don't really see another way in which people so ideologically driven can be broken of their view and return to sanity. They have to fail, and as they fail, they'll pull everything down around them. Once they see the results of their goals, they'll flip and come begging for help from Uncle Sam.

I want to be wrong.
 
2012-04-16 09:46:48 PM
"Americans are tired of the blame game," said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. "They want their president to solve problems, not point fingers."

How dare he be pointed out screwing the middle class.
 
2012-04-16 09:47:07 PM
"By a near party-line vote of XX-XX, senators voted to continue debating the bill. But that was Xx short of the 60 votes Democrats needed to keep the measure alive, in a roll call that surprised no one."

I don't understand why in this day and age we can't put together XX votes to push something like this through.
 
2012-04-16 09:47:32 PM
By a near party-line 51-45 tally.

The GOP are nothing but protectors of the 1%.

That alone makes them unworthy of re-election.
 
2012-04-16 09:48:38 PM
And if tomorrow Obama goes "Hah! I didn't really want the Buffet Rule anyway" the GOP will pass it with 100% voting yes.
 
2012-04-16 09:50:24 PM
There must be something in the bill that punishes rapists for the GOP to oppose it.
 
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