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2012-04-16 08:22:20 PM
Who knew that a console released 6 years ago would fare so poorly in today's market place?
 
2012-04-16 08:36:27 PM

cman: Who knew that a console released 6 years ago would fare so poorly in today's market place?


Xbox 360 was released the year prior and PS3 the same year, yet aren't hemorrhaging sales nearly as bad.
 
2012-04-16 08:40:48 PM
F*cking Farmville...
 
2012-04-16 08:41:14 PM
Was cheesy gimmick. I'm amazed it lasted as long as it did.
 
2012-04-16 08:42:44 PM
Now Nintendo has no choice but to make a line of smartphones
 
2012-04-16 08:46:03 PM
Maybe because they have the next generation coming out soon?
 
2012-04-16 08:47:12 PM
Maybe its because for every good game they have there are a hundred shiatty ones.
 
2012-04-16 08:47:46 PM
The Kinect and the Sony Move have removed the need for the specific niche console that the Wii occupied.

Also, given the Wii is essentially intended for drunk people at 3am, you don't need a steady supply of new games.
 
2012-04-16 08:49:04 PM
It's almost like people are expecting a new console from Nintendo and new games are being designed for it instead! Weird!

I'll admit to being trolled just for clicking, though. Reading anti-Nintendo articles from online tech websites is worse than replying to winterwhatshisface in the politics tab.
 
2012-04-16 08:49:08 PM

lousyskater: cman: Who knew that a console released 6 years ago would fare so poorly in today's market place?

Xbox 360 was released the year prior and PS3 the same year, yet aren't hemorrhaging sales nearly as bad.


Yeah, but they were the cheapest new gen console by far. Low end hardware doesn't stay competitive for long. The same could be said for $300 laptops.
 
2012-04-16 08:49:16 PM
Maybe it's because they have their new console slated for this year? Also with the biggest releases being two kinda obscure jRPGs after Skyward Sword... not much is carrying the console at the moment.

And it's not the Wii dragging down the industry, it's the DLC on Disc/Nickel and Diming shiat that companies like Capcom, EA and Activision have been pulling lately.

/Seriously, imagine the backlash if ANY other industry even tried to pull the stuff the video game industry is doing nowadays
 
Skr
2012-04-16 08:49:40 PM
Weak Wii? There's a pill for that.
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2012-04-16 08:50:44 PM

Swoop1809: Maybe because they have the next generation coming out soon?


Uh huh, the Wii U should do as well as the DS 3D. Either way they're not going to pull off the same results with the Wii-U.
 
2012-04-16 08:55:09 PM
But... but... ps3 has no gaems
 
2012-04-16 08:56:26 PM

stealingisbad: But... but... ps3 has no gaems


The Wii stole that title from the PS3 a while back.
 
2012-04-16 08:59:26 PM

bbfreak: Swoop1809: Maybe because they have the next generation coming out soon?

Uh huh, the Wii U should do as well as the DS 3D. Either way they're not going to pull off the same results with the Wii-U.


It's another gimmick and won't fare well in a marketplace where a total ecosystem is expected.

I say this as a guy who has only owned Nintendo consoles since the mid-90s when I was 8. I have a Wii back home in KC but the next console purchase will be a 360.
 
2012-04-16 09:01:15 PM

Xythero: Maybe its because for every good game they have there are a hundred shiatty ones.


I agree. The Wii was a decent idea but really suffered from a lack of good games and the good games they had were much better on the XBox or PS3. The only games my kids have really enjoyed were the Mario Olympics ones and that was only while the Olympics were going on. So for my family we were buying a Wii game about once every 2 years.
 
2012-04-16 09:02:06 PM

lousyskater: cman: Who knew that a console released 6 years ago would fare so poorly in today's market place?

Xbox 360 was released the year prior and PS3 the same year, yet aren't hemorrhaging sales nearly as bad.


360 - 65.8 million
PS3 - 62 million
Wii - 94.97 million

They are hemorrhaging because everyone who wanted a Wii bought one already.
 
2012-04-16 09:03:13 PM
Wow. A six year old console with an imminent successor on the way isn't selling as well. Whoda thunk it?

Six years is a good long run in the console world.
 
2012-04-16 09:03:28 PM
And this clip, which Wii users once proudly held up as affirmation of their choice in brand, now serves to haunt them about their bad decision.
 
2012-04-16 09:05:12 PM
BTW, since this is a Wii thread...

Anyone playing Xenoblade Chronicles? Should I get it? I'm not a huge JRPG fan, but it's so highly rated.
 
2012-04-16 09:07:31 PM
Clever strategy, game companies. Spend years convincing people that games without "DLC" are less cool, partly by having your mouthpieces in the gaming "journalism" world say so every other article, then start making it mandatory and charging a bunch of money for it.

The $40 you used to pay for a complete game is now $80, and the game stops working after a couple of years.

This is just like most other recent pointless technological gadgets. Some are nice, but most go from helpful to painful as soon as everyone starts to assume you're using all of them all the time, and soon after that, they make you into a worse person (draining your money, eroding your skills, et cetera).
 
2012-04-16 09:17:07 PM

Swoop1809: Maybe because they have the next generation coming out soon?


This is exactly what I thought. Frankly it's shocking that it didn't occur to the author at all to suggest that it might be a cause of Wii experiencing the dip in sales more strongly than the other two consoles.

Honestly, why would Nintendo burn effort, time and money on developing new games for a system that is going to be superseded in the very near future by their own upgraded product?

And if you are a consumer looking at getting a new console you might want to wait for the new stuff to show up to make a good comparison between your big 3 options before blowing your half a grand.

I even wouldn't be surprised if the anticipated release of the Wii U weren't also a contributing factor in the drop in sales that even the other companies are feeling.
 
2012-04-16 09:18:45 PM
A pawn shop I occasionally visit has a huge bin full of Wiis, all priced $60.

They get other game consoles, too, but when a 360 or PS3 comes in, it's turned around and resold that day or the next. Meanwhile, the Wii pile keeps growing.
 
2012-04-16 09:19:10 PM

Doc Daneeka: Wow. A six year old console with an imminent successor on the way isn't selling as well. Whoda thunk it?

Six years is a good long run in the console world.


Wiis collect dust. The 3DS sold below expectations and Nintendo is losing money for the first time in awhile.

The Wii was a neat gimmick, but the competition wisened up and now casual Nintendo fans have their iPhones and Angry Birds to play instead.
 
2012-04-16 09:20:35 PM
What? You mean people DON'T want to play the newest remake of Mario Kart and Zelda anymore? And the shovelware on the Wii isn't impressing anyone?

Color me shocked.
 
2012-04-16 09:20:53 PM

Doc Daneeka: BTW, since this is a Wii thread...

Anyone playing Xenoblade Chronicles? Should I get it? I'm not a huge JRPG fan, but it's so highly rated.


i liked it enough to recommend it
 
2012-04-16 09:24:04 PM

LaBlueSkuld: Maybe it's because they have their new console slated for this year? Also with the biggest releases being two kinda obscure jRPGs after Skyward Sword... not much is carrying the console at the moment.


Their core market who bought the wii have no idea there is a new console, and wont buy it anyway. It was always the weak point of the way it sold, they were selling gobs of them to people who didnt care about game consoles and who didnt in the end buy games for it. They bought a cheap and fashionable consumer appliance. The thing was a HUGE success and made them vast money, but it didnt even slightly establish a long term base.

The DS is the opposite, it has huge aftermarket penetration, and its main userbase are hardcore about games and will probably remain so, so this is not an anti-nintendo comment
 
2012-04-16 09:24:53 PM

FuturePastNow: A pawn shop I occasionally visit has a huge bin full of Wiis, all priced $60.

They get other game consoles, too, but when a 360 or PS3 comes in, it's turned around and resold that day or the next. Meanwhile, the Wii pile keeps growing.


Because a working USED PS3 of Xbox 360 is rare, but Wiis last. I've been watching EBay for an affordable used non-Nintendo system for awhile now. No luck--they all have something broken in them that would make a new system cheaper.
 
2012-04-16 09:27:33 PM

elchip: Doc Daneeka: Wow. A six year old console with an imminent successor on the way isn't selling as well. Whoda thunk it?

Six years is a good long run in the console world.

Wiis collect dust. The 3DS sold below expectations and Nintendo is losing money for the first time in awhile.

The Wii was a neat gimmick, but the competition wisened up and now casual Nintendo fans have their iPhones and Angry Birds to play instead.


Can't speak for others, but I've had mine since Jan. '07, and it's never really collected dust.

Just wrapped up Skyward Sword recently. Put about 60 hours of playtime into it.

Have a couple dozen titles, plus a load of WiiWare and Virtual Console downloads.

Definitely feel like I've gotten my money's worth of entertainment out of the system.
 
2012-04-16 09:28:47 PM
I dunno. My boys, 7 and 9 have access to two big HDTVs. One is equipped with a Wii, and the other is tricked out with an XBox360 with two Gold accounts and plenty of games. They tend to use my TV (the one with the Wii and the easier Netflix) most of the time.

Winning = my boys thinking the XBox set is king. So far I'm losing the big screen games. At least I can send them to bed at 9 PM.
 
2012-04-16 09:33:52 PM

Doc Daneeka: BTW, since this is a Wii thread...

Anyone playing Xenoblade Chronicles? Should I get it? I'm not a huge JRPG fan, but it's so highly rated.


It's really good. The battle system is interesting, it starts off by throwing you into things, and the plot doesn't treat you like a retarded child. I can only imagine that it is rated T because the graphics aren't up to par, because there is some crazy shiat that happens that I can't imagine getting anything but an M rating if it looked like Gears of War.

Usually I get bored by JRPGs that aren't SNES area. This one has so far kept me glued to it.
 
2012-04-16 09:34:17 PM
The Wii was good run while it lasted, It is a rapidly aging console, going into a spin.

One question, there were too many badly made crap Wii titles. Is the sheer amount of COD and other identical FPS killing off interest in the xbox 360 or playstation? When do people say this is getting old.

/Not to mention game creators that need to learn how to focus back on fun gameplay away from canned storyline and graphics.
 
2012-04-16 09:38:36 PM

Enemabag Jones: The Wii was good run while it lasted, It is a rapidly aging console, going into a spin.

One question, there were too many badly made crap Wii titles. Is the sheer amount of COD and other identical FPS killing off interest in the xbox 360 or playstation? When do people say this is getting old.

/Not to mention game creators that need to learn how to focus back on fun gameplay away from canned storyline and graphics.


There were too many shiatty made Wii titles because they were cheap to make, there was little to the certification process, and it had the largest install base (even if they weren't buying many 3rd party titles). The PS2 had a lot of shiatty titles as well for similar reasons.
 
2012-04-16 09:51:11 PM
Meh, it was a fun system and we still fire it up once in a while for 'drunk people at 3am' entertainment.
 
2012-04-16 09:56:10 PM
Maybe the big drop has to do with the fact that everyone who wanted a Wii, has one.
 
2012-04-16 09:57:43 PM
The Wii is the go to console when I play video games with people who didn't normally like video games (like my bf). But out of the three consoles - its the one most showing its age.

/use my PS3 on a daily basis
//my XBox360 sits in a box and is taken out when someone wants to play Halo
 
2012-04-16 10:00:16 PM

Enemabag Jones: The Wii was good run while it lasted, It is a rapidly aging console, going into a spin.

One question, there were too many badly made crap Wii titles. Is the sheer amount of COD and other identical FPS killing off interest in the xbox 360 or playstation? When do people say this is getting old.

/Not to mention game creators that need to learn how to focus back on fun gameplay away from canned storyline and graphics.


The problem isn't just the shovelware, it's the shovelware-to-good-game ratio. I own a Wii, and every so often, I'll dust it off for some game or another (The Endless Ocean games and Smash Bros. most often), but I play my 360 and PC much more often.
 
2012-04-16 10:03:48 PM
I like my Wii, thank you very much. I never owned a console before, but I enjoy being able to play a stupid 5-10 minute game every now and then. I don't have time for those epic games my friend sometimes play (Skyrim, Call of Duty, etc.)

I just want something to relax with for a few minutes and I don't have to learn a huge set of controls. So the Wii is for me.

And the wife likes to exercise with it when the weather sucks.

/obviously not a a gamer
 
2012-04-16 10:06:49 PM
It's not that developers don't want to create Wii games, it's that they can't. The 360 and PS3 are far superior in performance, to the point that games can't realistically be made for all three systems without making major sacrifices. (Unless they're Rockman 9 and 10.)
 
2012-04-16 10:07:31 PM
Mario Galaxy is the greatest game ever made.
 
2012-04-16 10:10:22 PM

gingerjet: The Wii is the go to console when I play video games with people who didn't normally like video games (like my bf). But out of the three consoles - its the one most showing its age.

/use my PS3 on a daily basis
//my XBox360 sits in a box and is taken out when someone wants to play Halo


Lookin' for someone to pawn that thing off on?

/the 360, that is.
 
2012-04-16 10:10:44 PM
The obly "bubble" was that devs didn't like the fact that they couldn't focus on pretty pictures over quality. They revolted, the games dried up, and the rest was history, despite the Wii being capable of doing everything meaningful that the HD consoles could.
 
2012-04-16 10:11:04 PM
I'm kind of amazed that nobody has noted yet that there's also the predecessor to the Wii coming out shortly, which always destroys the sales numbers of the prior console. Least I haven't seen anyone stating that when I perused the thread here...
 
2012-04-16 10:13:28 PM

Iczer: I'm kind of amazed that nobody has noted yet that there's also the predecessor successor to the Wii coming out shortly, which always destroys the sales numbers of the prior console. Least I haven't seen anyone stating that when I perused the thread here...


FTFM, stupid brain...
 
2012-04-16 10:13:39 PM
I'd say the Wii had such strong initial sales because it captured a demographic (we'll call it the 'your mom' demo) which had ignored games almost entirely that point. It was extremely easy and fun to pick up and play games, and most were at least mildly intuitive.

Nothing like it had ever been seen or done remotely well.

Unfortunately, the novelty wears off, and 'non gamer' demographic is surprisingly not likely to regularly buy games, even if you keep feeding them Wii fitness boards, Wii medicine balls, etc.

Compound this with 95% shovelware games, the few gems being either first party or old 8 an 64 bit era games, and the amazing lack of support given to the system. I mean, the Wii Channels are apparently used a lot in Japan, but entirely vacant/unused in America?

And of course, the Move/Kinect moved in on the body-controller territory, and have done it arguably better since they don't require a wiimote analog, they can capture full body images, and are usable as a number of other devices (streaming box, netflix, blu ray player, Xbox Live, etc. etc.).

Since it looks like the prices might be dropping to the impulse buy levels, can anyone recommend the AAA titles for the wii? Excluding mario Galaxy (gave me motion sickness because of the 2d/3d issues), and Metroid (anything)? No more heroes and Xenoblade are what I know are supposed to be good.
 
2012-04-16 10:13:43 PM
The Porshe Turbo and Ferrari F430 are much better then the Toyota Camry.

The Porshe Turbo was great on trackday and I won with the F430. The Camry was just a dog, and I came in last.

That Camry is a piece of shiat.
 
2012-04-16 10:14:35 PM
What people seem to forget is the fact that PC's are significantly better than consoles. They can be far more powerful, especially graphics wise.

My 27' 2010 iMac with an i7 running Wine works extremely well when it comes to PC games.

It is unfortunate that these game creators cater to the console folks over us PC freaks
 
2012-04-16 10:20:56 PM

CoopersCoffee: Mario Galaxy is the greatest game ever made.


Yeah, but Mario Strip Poker, Mario: Nazi Fighter, Mario Poledancer, Mario Big Pimpin', and Mario: Cuz fark You, Thats Why! Not so much.


/sick of Mario.
 
2012-04-16 10:23:54 PM

Old enough to know better: CoopersCoffee: Mario Galaxy is the greatest game ever made.

Yeah, but Mario Strip Poker, Mario: Nazi Fighter, Mario Poledancer, Mario Big Pimpin', and Mario: Cuz fark You, Thats Why! Not so much.


/sick of Mario.


Then don't buy the spin off games?

/would buy Mario Big Pimpin'
 
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