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(WMAZ Macon)   Police in Milledgeville, GA arrest a six-year-old girl for simple assault and property damage after knocking over a shelf in a school tantrum that injured the principal. Thank god that monster is off our streets   (13wmaz.com) divider line 245
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2012-04-16 10:47:34 PM

LivefromGA: FloydA: LivefromGA: FloydA: Six year old girl has a tantrum? Arrest her! We can't allow that!

Wannabe cop shoots a kid for brandishing skittles and iced tea? Meh, let him go. No big deal.

Coming from the same guy that had me banned for not having NSFW accidently, I can't see where your're rationalization is coming from. Part of the body nude that is so unobvious it has to be pointed out, ban him, we can't allow that!

I'm not a mod or an admin. I have no power to ban anyone. I have no idea what you're talking about.

Okay, I'll leave it at this. You: "enjoy your timeout"
Me: WUT?
Fark: "you are on a 24hr suspension"

Done with this conversation. *ignored*


People on Fark say "enjoy your time-out" or something similar when they think the person posted/said something against the rules and are likely to get caught for it. They're just making an observation. Doesn't mean the person saying it banned them.
 
2012-04-16 10:49:12 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Civil_War2_Time: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Civil_War2_Time: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Civil_War2_Time: Elect a black President and the violence stays the same in urban society?

The jokes; they wrote themselves decades ago...

Something about your username and your comment... just a coincidence, I'm sure.

What did I say that was not a fact? You go and find the sources for crime since 2009 in urban areas in the U.S. If you're blind, I'm sorry if it might take you a few days to respond.

Surely it will...

I'm not sure how electing a black president was supposed to impact urban crime stats...

So you're agreeing 100% that "Hope and Change" was/is a failure of epic proportions just by your rebuttal. I agree 100%.

Sadly, I still think he's better than Romney. BUT, these welfare families need to work, if even in the toilets, ditches, or fields of this country. No more free rides. Period.

It's the "free time" they mostly have that is the link to so much violence, imo, and that must be halted. NOW.

Hey, I hate n-words as much as anyone, but "Hope and Change" was just a catchy campaign slogan, not a policy platform to rejuvenate the inner cities. Obama has been a highly effective commander in chief, much more so than his predecessor, but let's not pretend he ever promised to redirect the plight of blacks in this country.


Who said "n-word" anything? Don't link that shiat with me with your knee-jerk responses to try and make yourself look better in order to paint me into a corner in which I don't belong.

There was a hope for change amongst the black community in urban areas: Celebrations, parades, new businesses, etc. Since then it's gone back to the way it was. You can't deny that. This article is the epitomy of the "raise my kid for me" mentality that is ruining their hopes.

I have so much more in common with Obama than Romney, it's amazing. Obama is just as left of center as I am right of center, and that's where the problem resides. Free programs are much more a drain than all military expenditures combined, as those folks in the military are learning trades, and have resumes. Free-riders have no hope other than continued funding by the government.

Disagree?
 
2012-04-16 10:49:25 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Mammy most likely


"Most likely" is another one of those phrases that lets me know the speaker is completely full of shiat.
 
2012-04-16 10:52:46 PM

DVOM: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Mammy most likely

"Most likely" is another one of those phrases that lets me know the speaker is completely full of shiat.


Really? It wasn't the fact that I started the post with "Mammy"?? Wow.
 
2012-04-16 10:52:55 PM

Hillsidemanor: I lived in Milledgeville for several years. This is not the least bit shocking considering the jackasses that are cops there. I'm more shocked they didn't taze the kid.


Not to mention the fact that Baldwin County has a gazillion prisons that bring a lot of money in.

/did my MPA at GCSU, taught there for a year
 
2012-04-16 10:56:19 PM

oh_please: Constance Ruff, the child's mother

Earnest Johnson, Salecia's father

I think I see part of the problem here.


What problem would that be?
 
2012-04-16 10:56:44 PM

Joshudan: OlderGuy: Six years old and still in kindergarten? Maybe more here than meets the eye.....

my daughter's 5th grade class is made up of 10- & 11- year olds, which meant they were 5-6 in kindergarten. There are two 12-year olds but they got left back the year before.

Unless you mean she is an autobot/decepticon....

/two kids
//many calls from teachers for tantrums, including ones similar to the article
///no calls involving police yet (knock wood)


Most southern states require you to be 5 before Labor Day to enter K-5. My niece's birthday is at the end of September, so she's stuck in K-4 this year, and it's a total load of crap, because she was well-prepared for K-5, but just born a few weeks too late.
 
2012-04-16 10:58:31 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Really? It wasn't the fact that I started the post with "Mammy"?? Wow.


Oh, you're just trollin'?

Carry on....
 
2012-04-16 10:59:05 PM

LazarusLong42: oh_please: Constance Ruff, the child's mother

Earnest Johnson, Salecia's father

I think I see part of the problem here.

What problem would that be?


The fact that the mom and dad aren't together.
 
2012-04-16 10:59:56 PM

DVOM: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Really? It wasn't the fact that I started the post with "Mammy"?? Wow.

Oh, you're just trollin'?

Carry on....


No. Not at all. But I still find it odd that you objected to "most likely" instead of "Mammy"...
 
2012-04-16 11:03:43 PM

rev. dave: What? In Milledgeville? That's Insane!!!!

/not obscure only to native Georgians


You so crazy.
 
2012-04-16 11:03:44 PM

CruiserTwelve: LeroyBourne: Hand cuffs click/lock to the point it can cover a 6 year old's wrist?

I was wondering that. She must have been a big 6 year old.


They may have used zip ties.


ruta: but I'm not sure it warranted a trip to the police station


School districts have been pushed into a corner. When teachers and other staff attempt to subdue out-of-control children, they open themselves up to being liable for any injuries they inflict. The first thing the kid's lawyer is going to ask the principal is if the staff member in question was trained or certified for restraining children. Of course the answer is going to be a big fat "no".

Another issue is that some of these kids can catch a staff member off guard regarding their strength. Back when I was in elementary, there was a kid who lived a few bus stops down from me who had serious behavior problems. In fifth grade, he got pissed off at a substitute teacher and cold cocked her in the face. It knocked her down and stunned her for a bit. I bet the teacher never thought he was capable of it. But a cop with a few years experience probably has seen what a kid that age can do and would be more prepared for it to happen.

Then you can have lawsuits from the other side. What if a teacher is injured while attempting to subdue an out-of-control child? The parents of the kid most likely aren't worth suing. That leaves your employer with the juicy insurance policy that will pay out.
 
2012-04-16 11:04:22 PM
Should have given the kid Skittles to calm down. Or, maybe it was the Skittles to begin with...

/Hell
 
2012-04-16 11:18:59 PM

OlderGuy: Six years old and still in kindergarten? Maybe more here than meets the eye.....


That's not normal? Well, crap. No wonder I have issues.
 
2012-04-16 11:20:00 PM

SevenizGud: HighZoolander: yeah, because other kids would never use such a hateful gesture.

I honestly had no idea that Bieber attempted to kill someone by bashing his head repeated against a concrete sidewalk. The more you know, I guess.



You don't mess with the Biebs. He will murder you and rape your corpse. I've seen it happen on more than one occasion.

/it wasn't pretty
//well ok, it was only pretty on the outside
 
2012-04-16 11:25:56 PM

the_foo: If teachers weren't getting sued every time they gave your snowflake a stern look, they wouldn't have to resort to calling the cops.


This.

Obvious.
 
2012-04-16 11:28:25 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: No. Not at all. But I still find it odd that you objected to "most likely" instead of "Mammy"...


"Mammy" is racism or whatever but "most likely" is lazy thinking. Meaning you're taking a preconceived assumption, using it as a fact, then using that "fact" to arrive at a conclusion that is.....SURPRISE!! the same as your original assumption.

So basically, you're "proving" you're right by "assuming" that you're right.

I used to do it also, I had different assumptions but the result was the same, I was full of shiat.

I watch for these phrases in other people's arguments but my real interest is in keeping my own arguments clean. I want to keep my own arguments logical.
 
2012-04-16 11:29:11 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: LazarusLong42: oh_please: Constance Ruff, the child's mother

Earnest Johnson, Salecia's father

I think I see part of the problem here.

What problem would that be?

The fact that the mom and dad aren't together.


Wait, you mean that because my wife uses her maiden name we aren't together?

That saves me a lot of explaining!
 
2012-04-16 11:29:36 PM

butt-nuggets: Remember the Golden Rule?

I think this kid might remember it from here forward.

/might


upload.wikimedia.org

I don't see what 3-ways have to do with this situation...
 
2012-04-16 11:29:52 PM
"A six-year-old in kindergarten. They don't have no business calling the police and handcuffing my child," said Earnest Johnson,


*scoff* There's your problem

// adam savage voice.
 
2012-04-16 11:38:32 PM

Joshudan: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: LazarusLong42: oh_please: Constance Ruff, the child's mother

Earnest Johnson, Salecia's father

I think I see part of the problem here.

What problem would that be?

The fact that the mom and dad aren't together.

Wait, you mean that because my wife uses her maiden name we aren't together?

That saves me a lot of explaining!


No... That means you're a little biatch. But you already know that. Good luck with the divorce BTW.
 
2012-04-16 11:42:04 PM

tartie_pants: butt-nuggets: tartie_pants: You know I used to think this was stupid until I started teaching K in a tough school. I try to call the parents on unruly children. I write notes home. What happens? I have been kicked, my arms pulled and twisted, constant bruising, choked, chairs thrown and my entire room trashed. They can beat the crap out of me but I can't touch them. Until you actually see an emotionally disturbed child, you have no clue what you are talking about.

Real story or troll? I'm leaning towards real ...

Real I can upload pics of the bruises and room trashing... I taught 2nd grade last year while fighting cancer not a problem. The principal thought K would be a break, not so much



Based on my experiences in 35 years of teaching - it's real.

Believe me, 'tantrum' doesn't begin to describe an out-of-control emotionally disturbed child's behavior.

Except in the most drastic cases physical restraint by school employees can result in assault charges and law suits. And even in those drastic cases the advice is to CYA by immediately writing out a detailed report of everything that happened.

Don't blame schools for calling the police. They're just doing what is required to keep from being charged with assault and/or sued. And the police are doing what is required to keep them from being sued. Just imagine what would happen if that six year old had been placed unrestrained in the back seat of a cruiser and had injured herself. Holy Mother of Lawsuits.
 
2012-04-16 11:54:02 PM
As a naive whitebread Canadian, the rush of many to connect behaviour to race in these threads fascinates me. Because my brain doesn't go there first, maybe because I grew up in a white-as-the-driven-snow part of the country where you could assume that every poor, deadbeat, loser, no-good criminal on the police blotter page was white. Poor, ignorant folk come in every colour of the rainbow in my experience (except maybe Asian [insert Overachiever Asian Dad Meme here]). Up here, the disproportionate representation in the prison system is Native. So historical marginalization, prejudice, poverty, fetal alcohol syndrome, and misguided systems meant to "help" tend to mold a person's life a certain way, you know? Not that there aren't folks who manage to break the cycle, but it's a much tougher go than I had, for sure, being born to the descendants of dirty Scottish cattle thieves who were booted from their homeland to farm rocks in northern Ontario only to luck into free land the Canadian government was handing out on the prairie.

The one black family that moved to our town was subjected to a weird sort of racism wherein it was expected that they must be extraordinarily cool and good at sports, so the kids were popular in school in spite of being otherwise average. There certainly were real racists around and I'm sure those kids got some of that too. Heck, maybe they secretly hated sports.
 
2012-04-16 11:54:08 PM
In the 70s I worked for Metro Toronto daycare. You sit behind a kid with its back to you, reach around and take the arms and cross them in front of the kid's body, and hold them like that until they run out of gas. They can't hurt themselves or anyone else. We didn't have to worry about stupid, money raping lawyers. People had some common farking sense.
 
2012-04-16 11:54:13 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Joshudan: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: LazarusLong42: oh_please: Constance Ruff, the child's mother

Earnest Johnson, Salecia's father

I think I see part of the problem here.

What problem would that be?

The fact that the mom and dad aren't together.

Wait, you mean that because my wife uses her maiden name we aren't together?

That saves me a lot of explaining!

No... That means you're a little biatch. But you already know that. Good luck with the divorce BTW.


Huh. Apparently my wife and I aren't together either, Joshudan! But hey, this series of posts gave me another name for my ignore list, so, um, thanks for that Dow Jones.
 
2012-04-16 11:56:33 PM
Dear Police dispatcher,

When someone calls 911 and says there's a 6 year old having a temper tantrum, here's what you should do...

1. Just hang up.


That's it. One step. Just hang up and walk away. No further action necessary. Dealing with 6 year old's tantrums is not in your job description. Period.
 
2012-04-16 11:58:20 PM
Once she was in handcuffs, did the SWAT team stand down?
 
2012-04-16 11:58:41 PM

LazarusLong42: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Joshudan: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: LazarusLong42: oh_please: Constance Ruff, the child's mother

Earnest Johnson, Salecia's father

I think I see part of the problem here.

What problem would that be?

The fact that the mom and dad aren't together.

Wait, you mean that because my wife uses her maiden name we aren't together?

That saves me a lot of explaining!

No... That means you're a little biatch. But you already know that. Good luck with the divorce BTW.

Huh. Apparently my wife and I aren't together either, Joshudan! But hey, this series of posts gave me another name for my ignore list, so, um, thanks for that Dow Jones.


Good luck when your wife leaves you, too, LL42! Sincerely.
 
2012-04-17 12:02:50 AM

LovingTeacher: If she does this frequently, and judging from 1) the damage she did, 2) the principal rushing to the Kindergarten room to help out and 3) the mother's comment about "mood swings" she does, then the best option is to expell her from the school and move her to a classroom for Emotionally Disturbed children. If this doesn't help then she should be moved to a school that specializes in handling children like her. Every county has at least one. There she will probably have a one on one aide, a psychologist and a case worker who will all work together to help her to learn to control herself. This is an expensive option but it is neccesary to educate the child, as best as can be done, and to protect the other students, the school staff and the child herself from the child's outbursts.


Hmm, while I'm glad to hear there are some facilities available, are they that uniformly available with seats open for all in need? From what little I know of school districts in the U.S., services vary widely with some districts being very limited by the funding and tax structure in what they can offer. If this school's solution was a suspension until next year, maybe it's one of the latter? Or maybe because it's kindergarten there isn't much for that early age group. A friend of mine in a remote part of Canada has a severely autistic son and she has struggled to find resources for him because they tend to be skewed to older kids. It's only been recently that she's been able to take a break because he goes to school for a few days per week.
 
2012-04-17 12:14:42 AM
Solution: Governments offers all women $10,000 to get their tubes tied. The 10K and procedure would be paid for by our tax dollars, but dammit - it just might work.
 
2012-04-17 12:15:43 AM

mizchief: Let me fix that:

butt-nuggets: Calling the police seems a tad extreme. Perhaps the school just needs a small large rubber room hose for students like this (for occasional use only, of course).


This. You made the changes faster than I could.
 
2012-04-17 12:24:24 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: beating the shiat out of her toddler in the condiment aisle of Wal-Mart.


He was lagging behind so his mother wanted him to ketchup.
/Now he's in a pickle.
//I don't relish saying such things
 
2012-04-17 12:26:43 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: the fact that he's wearing a Ralph Lauren hat.


Dude, you're the one who knew it was a Ralph Lauren hat.

/just sayin'
//NTTAWWT
 
2012-04-17 12:30:29 AM
I think we all need to stop tiptoeing around the elephant in the room here: why wasn't that shelf anchored to the wall?
 
2012-04-17 12:31:25 AM
What I think happened: The child is throwing a constant tantrum, and the school was unable to contact the parents. Note in the article: "Police say they tried to contact Johnson's mother but weren't able to reach her." It's a school, not a daycare.
Should an adult have stood there physically restraining the screaming child for several hours until the parent decides to come pick it up? Then the parent is going to say that all the self-inflicted bruises from the tantrum were caused by whatever chain of adults had to hold it down and sue. The only option presented to the school is to call the police who, unlike school officials, have 'deal with screaming violent idiots' in their job description.
 
2012-04-17 12:32:01 AM

DVOM: I want to keep my own arguments logical.


In my considered opinion, you are most likely to succeed.

/hyuk hyuk
 
2012-04-17 12:33:30 AM

Joshudan: Wait, you mean that because my wife uses her maiden name we aren't together?

That saves me a lot of explaining!


No, it doesn't mean you aren't together. It means you aren't a manly man. That's ok. The world needs spineless fops, too.
 
2012-04-17 12:34:06 AM
It doesn't matter if the kid was held back a year, fat, black, or has parents that use poor grammar. Six-year-olds shouldn't be handcuffed.
 
2012-04-17 12:34:37 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: No... That means you're a little biatch. But you already know that. Good luck with the divorce BTW.


I see you already had it covered. Guess I should have read the whole thread first.
 
2012-04-17 12:43:41 AM
Yep, sounds about right for Milledgeville. They had to get a six-year-old off the streets, yet they let a rapist walk.
 
2012-04-17 01:11:09 AM

ruta: LovingTeacher: If she does this frequently, and judging from 1) the damage she did, 2) the principal rushing to the Kindergarten room to help out and 3) the mother's comment about "mood swings" she does, then the best option is to expell her from the school and move her to a classroom for Emotionally Disturbed children. If this doesn't help then she should be moved to a school that specializes in handling children like her. Every county has at least one. There she will probably have a one on one aide, a psychologist and a case worker who will all work together to help her to learn to control herself. This is an expensive option but it is neccesary to educate the child, as best as can be done, and to protect the other students, the school staff and the child herself from the child's outbursts.

Hmm, while I'm glad to hear there are some facilities available, are they that uniformly available with seats open for all in need? From what little I know of school districts in the U.S., services vary widely with some districts being very limited by the funding and tax structure in what they can offer. If this school's solution was a suspension until next year, maybe it's one of the latter? Or maybe because it's kindergarten there isn't much for that early age group. A friend of mine in a remote part of Canada has a severely autistic son and she has struggled to find resources for him because they tend to be skewed to older kids. It's only been recently that she's been able to take a break because he goes to school for a few days per week.


No, you're right even in the best funded school districts in the US there are not enough seats available for the children that need them. Also I'm only familiar with the education laws in California but here we can only "suspend" a child for 10 days in a row without moving ahead with expulsion proceedings. If the child is expelled then the school district is still responsible for the child's education and must find a suitable placement for them. We just had two students caught red-handed in a drug deal both(the seller and the buyer) are suspended for 10 days pending expulsion. When the school board turns down their appeals (and they will) the students will both be placed in the Community Day School the district runs and will be allowed back into the regular school after a semester. Both students must be given all of the educational opportunities that they would have rrcieved at the regular school.

I know the mother says the girl is "suspended" for the rest of the school year nut I doubt that is what has really happened. It is more likely that the school is moving for expulsion and proper placement. Like I said it is expensive but it is required by law and is much safer for all involved.
 
2012-04-17 01:14:07 AM
If you can't restrain a six-year old, you need to hit the goddamn gym. I've restrained a six-year-old having a severe tantrum. It may be tough, but come the fark on. This kid better have been 5'5 or taller if she couldn't be restrained.
 
2012-04-17 01:27:51 AM
Thanks to having a kid in special ed and helping in his classroom, I've seen teachers having to deal with EBD kids on occasion (no, my son isn't one of them). These kids were five and six years old, and the teachers -- generally average-sized, reasonably fit women in their twenties -- could control them, JUST. The thing about these kids was that they had absolutely no inhibitions once they flew into a rage. A normal six-year-old, even a really pissed-off normal six-year-old, has absorbed the fact that there are limits and that certain behaviors will result in really unpleasant consequences afterwards. An emotionally disturbed six-year-old won't appear to consider any of that, they'll just go full-out crazy and attack. Even if you're allowed to fight back, shaking off a crazed forty-five pounder isn't easy, and the teachers can't always fight back.

/this kid sounds ripe for a nickname like "The Misfit"
//not in the least obscure
 
2012-04-17 01:30:21 AM

OlderGuy: Six years old and still in kindergarten? Maybe more here than meets the eye.....


Most schools have a cut-off date for enrollment. Let's say you're a kindergartener in my area. If you turned 5 years old after September 30th, you have to wait until the following year to enroll.
 
2012-04-17 01:30:44 AM

SevenizGud: FloydA: Wannabe cop shoots a kid for brandishing skittles and iced tea?

Uhm, you forgot the part about where he was bashing the guys skull into the concrete sidewalk. That was done without the involvement of skittles.

Let me guess, though, you would have let him bash your head into the concrete until you were in a coma, because, after all, he's just a kid, amirite?

[lh4.ggpht.com image 512x384]

Clearly this kid was all snowflake, and had no anger management issues.


You're right. Zimmerman was so scared of him he got out of his car and stalked him.

/when I see a suspicious person of any race I lock the doors and get the hell away
 
2012-04-17 01:32:28 AM

OlderGuy: Six years old and still in kindergarten? Maybe more here than meets the eye.....


It's very late in the school year now (only two weeks from MAY). Let's say she turned six in the past few months. That puts her on track to turn 18 in the middle of senior year of high school which is the norm.
 
2012-04-17 01:41:34 AM

LivefromGA: FloydA: LivefromGA: FloydA: Six year old girl has a tantrum? Arrest her! We can't allow that!

Wannabe cop shoots a kid for brandishing skittles and iced tea? Meh, let him go. No big deal.

Coming from the same guy that had me banned for not having NSFW accidently, I can't see where your're rationalization is coming from. Part of the body nude that is so unobvious it has to be pointed out, ban him, we can't allow that!

I'm not a mod or an admin. I have no power to ban anyone. I have no idea what you're talking about.

Okay, I'll leave it at this. You: "enjoy your timeout"
Me: WUT?
Fark: "you are on a 24hr suspension"

Done with this conversation. *ignored*


As FloydA said, he's not a mod nor an admin, so he cannot ban anyone.

Also, if a mod or an admin were to give you a temporary posting ban, we would never post a comment like that. We don't publically declare you've been given a temporary ban. That's private.
 
2012-04-17 01:47:47 AM

Krieghund: It doesn't matter if the kid was held back a year, fat, black, or has parents that use poor grammar. Six-year-olds shouldn't be handcuffed.


Exactly. Thank you.
 
2012-04-17 01:51:16 AM
One of my earliest memories from grade school was a student in grade one or two losing it because he caught shiate for not doing his homework. I remember he was so violent and out of control, our 50+ year old teacher had to wrestle him to the ground to keep him from seriously injuring her or himself. That little farker needed some cuffs in a big way. Nothing came of it though. Teacher retired not long after. Point being that sometimes, young or old, people need to be restrained in order to keep them from hurting themselves. This article doesn't do much more than vilify the police though.
 
2012-04-17 01:55:44 AM
buckler 2012-04-16 09:13:50 PM

I had a kid who had emotional problems and didn't adjust well to our care. He went on a full-on violent tantrum, and I had to restrain him. I took him to my manager's office and held onto him awhile, trying my best to soothe and calm him. Once he began to relax, I released his arms and started talking to him. Mofo reached up, grabbed the glasses off my head and twisted them all to hell, breaking one frame. Better believe mom paid for that.


Yes. But was the child handcuffed, arrested and charged with assault?
 
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