Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: oh_please: Constance Ruff, the child's mother

Earnest Johnson, Salecia's father

I think I see part of the problem here.

Are you claiming that this stemmed from the Ruff Johnson wedding??

no, it was the constant ruffness against the earnest johnson

Terror is not a new weapon. Throughout history, it has been used by those who could not prevail either by persuasion or example. But inevitably, they fail either because men are not afraid to die for a life worth living, or because the terrorists themselves came to realize that free men cannot be frightened by threats and that aggression would meet its own response.

-JFK, in a speech to the UN-

We used to have a real Commander in Chief. We used to not be afraid of dying. We used to not be afraid of going to war, or of losing all our money in an economic collapse. We used to not be afraid to use our own judgment. We used to not be afraid to be honest.

Now we fear schoolgirls.

Yay, America.

/I am going to get drunk now.

Wow.

This is just... I just don't even know what to say.

That sounded like a story from The Onion.

FlyingJ: Milledgeville, eh? I wonder what Flannery O'Connor would've made of this...

She would have just called it artificial.

fusillade762: Anyone else read the name of the town as "Midgetville"?



Link (new window and sooo politically incorrect!)

Let me fix that:

butt-nuggets: Calling the police seems a tad extreme. Perhaps the school just needs a small large rubber room hose for students like this (for occasional use only, of course).

6 year old does jail time for assasult.

Ben Roethlisberger makes the playoffs for rape.

CruiserTwelve: LeroyBourne: Hand cuffs click/lock to the point it can cover a 6 year old's wrist?

I was wondering that. She must have been a big 6 year old.

Ah yes, that's the real issue here. Thanks for that, Mr. Cop Defender.

You know I used to think this was stupid until I started teaching K in a tough school. I try to call the parents on unruly children. I write notes home. What happens? I have been kicked, my arms pulled and twisted, constant bruising, choked, chairs thrown and my entire room trashed. They can beat the crap out of me but I can't touch them. Until you actually see an emotionally disturbed child, you have no clue what you are talking about.

Hillsidemanor: I lived in Milledgeville for several years. This is not the least bit shocking considering the jackasses that are cops there. I'm more shocked they didn't taze the kid.

Yea I was in tybee for a bachelor's party and some old drunk start hanging out with our group for some reason up until the point where he said "I used to be a cop. You know why I'm not a cop anymore? I got tired of chasing n****** around Milledgeville." then later on told someone else that he really got kicked off because he got pissed off over his divorce and beat the shiat out of a random black guy he pulled over for speeding. Apparently he had done that "one to many times" and was let go.

Class acts all around.

I live in world of possibilities. It is my nature to accept all potential outcomes to human interaction and emotion with an open mind.

But, if you place steel links on my children's arms you are going to die in prison. And it will be an ugly death.

Positive there is more to this story.

But, if things are as bad as described in the article someone is gonna go down.

AverageAmericanGuy: I really don't have a problem with this. The kid was out of control and needed to be subdued.

She obviously hasn't received enough discipline at home, so this kind of "scared straight" method might be the last, best hope for her.

To make matters worse, the parents and family of the girl are treating this as if it were some terrible usurpation of her rights. So whatever positive "setting straight" impact the arrest may have had on her, the family has undone completely and replaced it with a victimization mindset.

I'd lay good odds that this girl will be in and out of juvenile detention several times before she's finally either killed in a gang-related incident or incarcerated for assaulting someone with a deadly weapon.

Zero Tolerance, unless you are a government employee

tartie_pants: You know I used to think this was stupid until I started teaching K in a tough school. I try to call the parents on unruly children. I write notes home. What happens? I have been kicked, my arms pulled and twisted, constant bruising, choked, chairs thrown and my entire room trashed. They can beat the crap out of me but I can't touch them. Until you actually see an emotionally disturbed child, you have no clue what you are talking about.

Real story or troll? I'm leaning towards real ...

AverageAmericanGuy: She obviously hasn't received enough discipline at home,

Obviously! I mean it couldn't possibly be something like:

An allergic reaction causing this.
An emotional reaction to something like a relative getting their brains blown out in Afghanistan.
The onset of some mental illness.

The only possible answer is that the parents are low class, lazy, not enough disipline POSs. Of course that could be the correct answer, so just to be safe, let's incarcerate these 6 yo criminals. And why stop there, everybody knows these little bastages start this shiat when they're 2 yo. If we could just get these little heathens institutionalized at the right time, we could eliminate a lot of problems.

strangeguitar: Oddly enough, just finished watching this film.

Is that the girl from The Bad Seed?

She's black, right? Get her in the system early and ensure that all the jobs involved with monitoring people are kept secured. Who gives a sh*t about a child's education?

doloresonthedottedline: strangeguitar: Oddly enough, just finished watching this film.

Is that the girl from The Bad Seed?


Yep

I'd rather face down a Mexican drug cartel enforcer than a 6-year-old girl. At least the cartel fights fair.

And she's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes...

ongbok: Yes, she went to the folding chair.

I'm with her on this one. Do you realize what kind of things happen when you throw a chair? (new window)

LeroyBourne: Hand cuffs click/lock to the point it can cover a 6 year old's wrist?

Not from what I remember. One day in middle school there was a DARE officer, or something to that effect, speaking to the class. I forget why but he asked for someone to demonstrate his handcuffs on. I think someone asked about them. Anyway, I volunteered. He put the cuffs on me, tightened them down as far as they'll go, and I slipped right out of them.

strangeguitar: wellreadneck: strangeguitar: [i49.photobucket.com image 150x187]

Oddly enough, just finished watching this film.

What with this happening in GA and ongbok's reference to wrestling, I thought at first this was Rebecca of Donnybrook Farm. Who is it?

Patricia McCormick from the 50's version of "The Bad Seed".

Creepy film.

Thanks, I think I've seen that.

Unless they've changed the law, a child below age 12 cannot be prosecuted in Georgia, so what's the point in arresting a 6-year-old?

Back in my day, if I did something wrong in school, they would just pop my ass with a big wooden paddle, and the issue was resolved.

Nem Wan: Unless they've changed the law, a child below age 12 cannot be prosecuted in Georgia, so what's the point in arresting a 6-year-old?

To remove her from the premises.

They couldn't reach the biodonor.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: CtrlAltDestroy:

Not from what I remember. One day in middle school there was a DARE officer, or something to that effect, speaking to the class. I forget why but he asked for someone to demonstrate his handcuffs on. I think someone asked about them. Anyway, I volunteered. He put the cuffs on me, tightened them down as far as they'll go, and I slipped right out of them.

Yep. In my experience, if you want to secure a 6 year old girl with handcuffs, you should first wrap her wrist with 1/2" to 3/4" thick canvas material. Not only will it allow the cuffs to tighten thoroughly, it will also be much more painful if/when they try to squirm out of the restraints.

Why do you have any experience what so ever handcuffing 6 year old girls? I think I better contact the cops.

Nem Wan: Unless they've changed the law, a child below age 12 cannot be prosecuted in Georgia, so what's the point in arresting a 6-year-old?

To remove her from the school and hopefully give her pause to think about the consequences of her actions.

This happened in Georgia... black kid being cuffed and standard rebuttal by landline-recording of stereotypical hick cop regurgitating "standard policy"?

*clicks*

Yup.

Sorry, but when dealing with most children these days, there is no correct way of dealing with them when it comes to the parents. It's called a lose lose situation. Either way, dis mom gonna git hur money on

ongbok: Why do you have any experience what so ever handcuffing 6 year old girls? I think I better contact the cops.

OK, imagine you are the Principal. The girl starts throwing shiat at you, then the shelf breaks and you get injured. What ya gonna do?

Nem Wan: Unless they've changed the law, a child below age 12 cannot be prosecuted in Georgia, so what's the point in arresting a 6-year-old?

My guess is the prosecutor will move to charge her as an adult.

butt-nuggets: tartie_pants: You know I used to think this was stupid until I started teaching K in a tough school. I try to call the parents on unruly children. I write notes home. What happens? I have been kicked, my arms pulled and twisted, constant bruising, choked, chairs thrown and my entire room trashed. They can beat the crap out of me but I can't touch them. Until you actually see an emotionally disturbed child, you have no clue what you are talking about.

Real story or troll? I'm leaning towards real ...

Real I can upload pics of the bruises and room trashing... I taught 2nd grade last year while fighting cancer not a problem. The principal thought K would be a break, not so much

I read most of the comments here and at the news website. We don't know all the facts but several things stand out to me. The principal was hurt. Is this the first time that he/she has been injured in the line of work? Was it a bruise, a laceration or a broken bone? Are the police called every time that the principal cannot control a 6 year old? In my many many years of being in school, having kids and grandkids in school and substitute teaching, I have never heard of a cuffing of a SIX YEAR OLD and taking them to the police station with charges. For you that have a lot of time, google that and post here how many SIX YEAR OLDS are handcuffed on a yearly basis.(Keep in mind that the article did not mention. It also said that police tried to contact the mother. Why didn't the school do that before ever calling the police to cuff a SIX YEAR OLD?

ha-ha-guy: You know if some six year old had a tantrum and I suffered any kind of injury, I'd likely bleed to death or just try to stem the bleeding via gauze and/or duct tape rather than admit she kicked my ass.

To be fair though, back in grade school when if I acted up, the principal was able to physically restrain me. Do that these days and the cops would be hauling him out of the building as the sex offender.

My ex-girlfriend works with special needs children and every year they go through refresher training on physical restraint of students. There was a 2 month period of time that she came home bruised every day from the same student, bite marks, black eyes the whole nine yards. I don't remember her ever having to call the cops but they did have to physically restrain that boy for more than a half hour while they waited for the mother to come get him. If the parents had been unable to respond I'm sure that they would have eventually called the cops. Schools don't do this kind of thing for minor tantrums I'm sure that if the child has been removed from the school for the duration of the school year there is a long and well documented series of assaults and "tantrums" that have caused injury and damage. Even though the school has removed the student from the classroom they are still legally responsible for her education if she lives in the district and she will be sent to a school better able to serve her.

God there needs to be a Ken Tutus meme for threads like this.

You Wussies!

butt-nuggets: Calling the police seems a tad extreme. Perhaps the school just needs a small rubber room for students like this (for occasional use only, of course).

eh, if she went off the deep end enough that they thought she was a danger to herself, I don't really have a problem with them calling for help, but if that were the case, I'd expect her to be taken to a hospital for a psych eval, not to the police precinct.

Nem Wan: Unless they've changed the law, a child below age 12 cannot be prosecuted in Georgia, so what's the point in arresting a 6-year-old?

I could understand baker acting one, but not so much arresting one.

FloydA: Six year old girl has a tantrum? Arrest her! We can't allow that!

Wannabe cop shoots a kid for brandishing skittles and iced tea? Meh, let him go. No big deal.

Coming from the same guy that had me banned for not having NSFW accidently, I can't see where your're rationalization is coming from. Part of the body nude that is so unobvious it has to be pointed out, ban him, we can't allow that!

Why did the police knock over the shelf and injure the principal? Were they afraid of the monster?



/Grammar. It works, biatches.

Wow, the parents and child were so calm and well behaved during the interview. There's absolutely no way these people have not encouraged a violent home environment through the many "mood swings" that the mother has admitted that everyone has. You all have just witnessed a family of sociopaths.

Because we should teach kids from an early age that they are not responsible for their actions, and that personal injury and property damage are okay, especially if it happens in an instance of anger, amirite?

Zero tolerance for public employees and lawmakers.

It takes a village to raise a child, or a couple of parents that believe in discipline .

osafer: Wow, I am not sure who is more stupid, the school for calling the police on a 6 year old or the cops for actually responding... Zero Tolerance laws are for idiots...

The school was transferring the lawsuit from themselves to the police department, or trying to. That is all.